RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Shawn K. Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:12 PM > To: dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta > > > Can we make it more likely by reporting and/or voting for > the bug? Do > > you know if they accept public reports somewhere? > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking > scripting language that extends applications into web and > mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime > developer group breaking into this new coding territory! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&; > dat=121642 > ___ > To unsubscribe visit: > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users > DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 > > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Here you go Kim!http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/03/24/560095.aspxOn 3/28/06, Kim Gräsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi John, Mmm, nice way of thinking about it... Can we make it more likely byreporting and/or voting for the bug? Do you know if they accept publicreports somewhere?- Kim> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of> John W. Bairen, Jr.> Sent: den 28 mars 2006 04:56> To: dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta >>> Let me say this about IE 7 Beta... Microsoft will probably> fix the problem so we at DQSD should probably hold off until they do.>> I say this because even their own taskbar toolbar for Windows > Media Player is broken as well as the taskbar toolbar for iTunes.---This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcastand join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642___To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-usersDQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601-- Richard AhlquistSystems AnalystWebmasterhttp://www.patentlystupid.com http://www.pcsites.com
RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
> Can we make it more likely by reporting and/or voting > for the bug? Do you know if they accept public > reports somewhere? [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Hi John, Mmm, nice way of thinking about it... Can we make it more likely by reporting and/or voting for the bug? Do you know if they accept public reports somewhere? - Kim > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > John W. Bairen, Jr. > Sent: den 28 mars 2006 04:56 > To: dqsd-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta > > > Let me say this about IE 7 Beta... Microsoft will probably > fix the problem so we at DQSD should probably hold off until they do. > > I say this because even their own taskbar toolbar for Windows > Media Player is broken as well as the taskbar toolbar for iTunes. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Thats probably a good stance John, there seem to be significant issues in the current public build such as serious incompatibility with Google Desktop Search for one. RichardOn 3/27/06, John W. Bairen, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Let me say this about IE 7 Beta... Microsoft will probably fix the problemso we at DQSD should probably hold off until they do.I say this because even their own taskbar toolbar for Windows Media Player is broken as well as the taskbar toolbar for iTunes.JB---This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting languagethat extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory!http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___To unsubscribe visit:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.nethttp://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601-- Richard AhlquistSystems AnalystWebmasterhttp://www.patentlystupid.comhttp://www.pcsites.com
RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Let me say this about IE 7 Beta... Microsoft will probably fix the problem so we at DQSD should probably hold off until they do. I say this because even their own taskbar toolbar for Windows Media Player is broken as well as the taskbar toolbar for iTunes. JB --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Yes it is there... Values:
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> DQSD without attempts at a custom host uses the Microsoft BrowserBand
> for hosting, so that must be registered. Do you have a key at:
> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{7BA4C742-9E81-11CF-99D3-00AA004AE837}
>
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Re: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
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"ThreadingModel"="Apartment"yes, its thereOn 3/27/06, Kim Gräsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Hi Richard,> Everything was working as well as it should. So to test
> John's problem I uninstalled IE 7 B2. Then rebooted, then> reinstalled it and rebooted again. Now my DQSD bar was gone.> Re-added it with the right click on the task bar and i get> the adjuster band on the left and the word sear ch on the
> right but thats it, no content no DQSD.Sorry to hear. I wish they wouldn't upgrade IE... No, wait, we've beenwaiting for a new version for 10 years. Scratch that! ;-)Do you have the HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{7BA4C742-9E81-11CF-99D3-00AA004AE837}
registry key I asked about earlier?- Kim---This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting languagethat extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast
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RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Hi Richard,
> Everything was working as well as it should. So to test
> John's problem I uninstalled IE 7 B2. Then rebooted, then
> reinstalled it and rebooted again. Now my DQSD bar was gone.
> Re-added it with the right click on the task bar and i get
> the adjuster band on the left and the word sear ch on the
> right but thats it, no content no DQSD.
Sorry to hear. I wish they wouldn't upgrade IE... No, wait, we've been
waiting for a new version for 10 years. Scratch that! ;-)
Do you have the
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{7BA4C742-9E81-11CF-99D3-00AA004AE837}
registry key I asked about earlier?
- Kim
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Re: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Confirmed. Here is what i did to reproduce this on my box. I had the latest build of DQSD installed over a IE 7 B2 install. I had not uninstalled DQSD to install the new beta of DQSD simply installed it over. Everything was working as well as it should. So to test John's problem I uninstalled IE 7 B2. Then rebooted, then reinstalled it and rebooted again. Now my DQSD bar was gone. Re-added it with the right click on the task bar and i get the adjuster band on the left and the word sear ch on the right but thats it, no content no DQSD.
RichardOn 3/27/06, Kim Gräsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi John,> I am willing to help debug it. Any ideas where to start with> it? I am behind in reading for my class, so I may be> in-and-out with my time to work on this. But let me know> where you think I should start.
Not sure, actually...From what you said, it seemed that you only get a blank deskband? That is,you see the little chevron or whatever it's called -- the vertical thin barthat you can move. That sounds like bad news.
DQSD without attempts at a custom host uses the Microsoft BrowserBand forhosting, so that must be registered. Do you have a key at:HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{7BA4C742-9E81-11CF-99D3-00AA004AE837}?
I'm thinking maybe they retired it in IE7 :-/If it's there, I'm not sure what's wrong...- Kim---This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language
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RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Hi John,
> I am willing to help debug it. Any ideas where to start with
> it? I am behind in reading for my class, so I may be
> in-and-out with my time to work on this. But let me know
> where you think I should start.
Not sure, actually...
>From what you said, it seemed that you only get a blank deskband? That is,
you see the little chevron or whatever it's called -- the vertical thin bar
that you can move. That sounds like bad news.
DQSD without attempts at a custom host uses the Microsoft BrowserBand for
hosting, so that must be registered. Do you have a key at:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{7BA4C742-9E81-11CF-99D3-00AA004AE837}
?
I'm thinking maybe they retired it in IE7 :-/
If it's there, I'm not sure what's wrong...
- Kim
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RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
I am willing to help debug it. Any ideas where to start with it? I am behind in reading for my class, so I may be in-and-out with my time to work on this. But let me know where you think I should start. JB > I'm not sure where to go with this... Any way of isolating > what's wrong? > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Hi John, > Looks like the latest IE 7 Beta breaks DQSD. I had the > previous IE 7 Beta and it worked fine, but this one has no > menu or text field to type in or display the clock. It is > just a gray useless box. Aargh. I tried it with the previous beta as well and was glad to see it worked more or less as before. I've heard some people having bad experiences with the new beta so I haven't bothered to upgrade, in fact I just downgraded to IE6 in order to be able to use some non-IE7-friendly sites. I'm not sure where to go with this... Any way of isolating what's wrong? - Kim --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
[DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Looks like the latest IE 7 Beta breaks DQSD. I had the previous IE 7 Beta and it worked fine, but this one has no menu or text field to type in or display the clock. It is just a gray useless box. JB --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Shawn K. Hall wrote on 01/02/2006 19:11 Hi Kim, Would people like a release of DQSD that bypasses the main problem, i.e. the initial InfoBar at startup, but that exposes a number of other problems with popup windows, etc? That would be my own preference (understanding that in the future we may be able to correct the other issues). I would also raise my hand for this approach. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Hi Kim, > Would people like a release of DQSD that bypasses the main > problem, i.e. the initial InfoBar at startup, but that > exposes a number of other problems with popup windows, > etc? That would be my own preference (understanding that in the future we may be able to correct the other issues). Regards, Shawn K. Hall http://12PointDesign.com/ --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Kim, I cant speak for everyone but I for one would welcome a first step fix in this like you have detailed. It would be nice to return those security settings to normal and run DQSD. I see what you mean about the address bar in the about window, and I am afraid I dont have much in the way of advice on that. It makes the about window less attractive to be sure but I think most would find it a minor aestetic annoyance. I am sorry to hear that the project overall is becoming a guilty conscience issue for you. I'd be happy to help but I doubt my extensive foxpro, minor vb, and even more minor c++ skill would be much use. I hope the project lightens up for you! Perhaps others will chime in on the security issue. Thanks!RichardOn 2/1/06, Kim Gräsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Richard,> I''m sure some of you by now have tried the new IE 7 Beta and> noticed that you again have to apply the hacks to disable the> security features to enable DQSD. I know I have asked this > before but are there any plans for a workaround for this that> doesnt require disabling security features? Kim, you last> commented on this back in December that you would look into it?I just installed the IE7 beta today, and it seems to run OK with my latest experimental builds of the new host.The code I've written to make DQSD work with SP2+ solves some of theproblems with the new security features, without tearing down the protectionfor regular surfing, as far as I can see. However, there are still a couple of open issues, of which the help windowis the most pressing; it's shown using _javascript_ that pops open a newwindow, so it will run with default security settings, unaffected by all the tomfoolery I've done to customize the browser for DQSD. That is, it shows ayellow bar (and with IE7, an address bar - it looks horrible).I'm still not sure how we should proceed with this... Would people like a release of DQSD that bypasses the main problem, i.e. the initial InfoBar atstartup, but that exposes a number of other problems with popup windows,etc? Maybe that's better than trying to solve all the problems in one go. This is turning into a guilty conscience for me, rather than something funto do in my few spare hours, but maybe releasing tiny improvements ratherthan a big chunk of working-ness would help :-)- Kim ---This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___To unsubscribe visit:https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.nethttp://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601-- Richard AhlquistSystems AnalystWebmasterhttp://www.patentlystupid.comhttp://www.pcsites.com
RE: [DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
Hi Richard, > I''m sure some of you by now have tried the new IE 7 Beta and > noticed that you again have to apply the hacks to disable the > security features to enable DQSD. I know I have asked this > before but are there any plans for a workaround for this that > doesnt require disabling security features? Kim, you last > commented on this back in December that you would look into it? I just installed the IE7 beta today, and it seems to run OK with my latest experimental builds of the new host. The code I've written to make DQSD work with SP2+ solves some of the problems with the new security features, without tearing down the protection for regular surfing, as far as I can see. However, there are still a couple of open issues, of which the help window is the most pressing; it's shown using javascript that pops open a new window, so it will run with default security settings, unaffected by all the tomfoolery I've done to customize the browser for DQSD. That is, it shows a yellow bar (and with IE7, an address bar - it looks horrible). I'm still not sure how we should proceed with this... Would people like a release of DQSD that bypasses the main problem, i.e. the initial InfoBar at startup, but that exposes a number of other problems with popup windows, etc? Maybe that's better than trying to solve all the problems in one go. This is turning into a guilty conscience for me, rather than something fun to do in my few spare hours, but maybe releasing tiny improvements rather than a big chunk of working-ness would help :-) - Kim --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users DQSD-Users@lists.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
[DQSD-Users] IE 7 Beta
I''m sure some of you by now have tried the new IE 7 Beta and noticed that you again have to apply the hacks to disable the security features to enable DQSD. I know I have asked this before but are there any plans for a workaround for this that doesnt require disabling security features? Kim, you last commented on this back in December that you would look into it? -- Richard AhlquistSystems AnalystWebmasterhttp://www.patentlystupid.comhttp://www.pcsites.com
