Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
At 02:09 PM 5/6/2007, Gary Danaher wrote: >Anyone offer suggestions here for 'pioneers' following Don and >before Martti and Chuck Brady? -- Let us define what a "pioneer" in this context is first ! Over the years we have been blessed with many dedicated dx-ers going terrible or unpleasant places ! 73 Rag LA5HE mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
Original Message: - From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 13:48:37 -0700 (PDT) To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers --- Gary Danaher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > During a recent adult discussion we were kicking around names of some > famous old timers and how they changed the hobby, but couldn't think of > any outstanding 'characters' after Don Miller who might have been > roaming the Earth during the 70's and 80's. Anyone offer suggestions > here for 'pioneers' following Don and before Martti and Chuck Brady? There are some excellent pages about Gus Browning and Don Miller at this web site: http://www.qsl.at/english/welcome.html It was sad to realize that Gus had cheated ´with LH4C Bouvet ! He was such a nice person and excellent operator. 73 Rag LA5HE ( who picked the callsign for him at the time ) myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Dan N3OX wrote: " to get through to a rock on the other side of the world while there are thousands and thousands of callers takes solid preparation, a good station, and good operating skills." It also takes a good bit of luck sometimes. Those that didn't get BS7H this time may get another chance, if they don't give up. In the meantime, they can work to improve their stations and their operating skills. The most impact will nearly always be from improvements to the antenna system... wise man says "$100 spent on antenna is better than $1000 spent anywhere else". There are no losers in this game of DXing only winners and those that have not yet won. The only way to lose is not to play. 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: "Dan Zimmerman N3OX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen Quote W2AGN: You know, following this thread is enough to turn one off DXing. The ones that worked BS7H are sneeringly demeaning those who didn't, criticizing their operating, etc No, a mix of people who worked and didn't work BS7H are sneeringly demeaning a few VERY, VERY vocal whiners who think the BS7H guys did something other than the very very best they could. They don't say it in so many words, but they chalk up their inability to work very difficult DX to the DX station's mistakes or the actions of the masses in the pileup. They don't understand that to get through to a rock on the other side of the world while there are thousands and thousands of callers takes solid preparation, a good station, and good operating skills. They want to blame someone else for their lame station and operating ability, and they want to do it on the cluster. Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Quote W2AGN: You know, following this thread is enough to turn one off DXing. The ones that worked BS7H are sneeringly demeaning those who didn't, criticizing their operating, etc No, a mix of people who worked and didn't work BS7H are sneeringly demeaning a few VERY, VERY vocal whiners who think the BS7H guys did something other than the very very best they could. They don't say it in so many words, but they chalk up their inability to work very difficult DX to the DX station's mistakes or the actions of the masses in the pileup. They don't understand that to get through to a rock on the other side of the world while there are thousands and thousands of callers takes solid preparation, a good station, and good operating skills. They want to blame someone else for their lame station and operating ability, and they want to do it on the cluster. Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
I will never forget the Colvin's. A long time ago, we closed down our stations on Navassa Island and climbed down that wire rope ladder to the boat below. After the all night trip back to Jamaica we couldn't believe it but there was Lloyd and Iris standing on the end of the dock waving to us. What a thrill. Somewhere in your list you must add the current chairman of the ARRL DX Advisory Committee, Bob Allphin - K4UEE. Dave - K4SSU - Original Message - From: "Ronald Loneker Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers NEVER Forget the Colvins HK3CW wrote: And how bout the Colvins? - Original Message - From: "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers At 02:09 PM 5/6/2007, Gary Danaher wrote: Anyone offer suggestions here for 'pioneers' following Don and before Martti and Chuck Brady? I don't know how the chronology fits in, but Gus Browning and Danny Weil have to be in that category. 73, Mike, W5UC "age & treachery will overcome youth & skill" http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- Ronald Loneker Sr.- KA2BZS #1DXCC Honor Roll - 9BDXCC A-1 Op - QCWA http://www.cwforever.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
the "Colvins and Vince ThompsonVT... - Original Message - From: "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers At 02:09 PM 5/6/2007, Gary Danaher wrote: Anyone offer suggestions here for 'pioneers' following Don and before Martti and Chuck Brady? I don't know how the chronology fits in, but Gus Browning and Danny Weil have to be in that category. 73, Mike, W5UC "age & treachery will overcome youth & skill" http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
I think the Colvins were later. I have some south pacific cards from them, and they were from the 76 time frame. perhaps they overlapped early on... John K5MO At 06:37 PM 5/6/2007, Zack Widup wrote: On Sun, 6 May 2007, Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH) wrote: > At 02:09 PM 5/6/2007, Gary Danaher wrote: > >Anyone offer suggestions here for 'pioneers' following Don and > >before Martti and Chuck Brady? > > I don't know how the chronology fits in, but Gus Browning and Danny > Weil have to be in that category. > > 73, > Mike, W5UC > Weren't the Colvins active during that time period? 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
A few years ago. He's AE6IY now I believe. I exchanged a couple e-mails with him shortly after he got an e-mail address and he said he would be on the air again soon. I haven't heard him, though. 73, Zack W9SZ On Sun, 6 May 2007, john wrote: > > Didn't Don Miller just get out of jail , relatively recently? > > John > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
On Sun, 6 May 2007, Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH) wrote: > At 02:09 PM 5/6/2007, Gary Danaher wrote: > >Anyone offer suggestions here for 'pioneers' following Don and > >before Martti and Chuck Brady? > > I don't know how the chronology fits in, but Gus Browning and Danny > Weil have to be in that category. > > 73, > Mike, W5UC > Weren't the Colvins active during that time period? 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
quote W9SZ: "I never could get up the nerve to go out there at night unless there were others out there. " . It looks like a good QTH. No neighbours! I heard fried rat was a delicacy in certain parts of the world. I'm sure I must have eaten it at dodgy curry houses in London! In fact there was a place in Leeds that got taken to court recently for serving boiled seagulls as chicken curry. Dave G0OIL Zack Widup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Our local contest club K9CU had a QTH for a few years we called "Area 51D". We don't have it anymore. It was a rat-infested building out in the middle of nowhere that belonged to the University of Illinois. It had power but no water or heat. We did have a tribander up over 100 feet and a couple dipoles for 40 and 80 up that high. But there were no rigs left at the station. If you wanted to operate you were free to come out with your own rig and put up with the rats. The antenna performed very well and I live about 5 minutes from the site. I used to go out in the daytime once in a while to see what I could work. I think I worked one of Baldur's operations from there. I never could get up the nerve to go out there at night unless there were others out there. :-) There are a few photos of it at http://www.qsl.net/k9cu 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers: Don Miller stuff
Yes, Don's certainly alive and well and was released in 2002. He's got a new callsign: AE6IY. I've corresponded with him by email and put him in touch with an acquaintance - a geographer who's into scuba and wreck diving and was asking about some of the south Pacific islands that Don visited, in particular some of the subsurface reefs such as Maria Theresa. Even in these days of GPS and satellite imagery there's still hot debate on the subject of these reefs, exactly where they are (or aren't) and the geology / habitat etc. Don's certainly an interesting chap with many a story to tell. Dave G0OIL john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Didn't Don Miller just get out of jail , relatively recently? John At 05:15 PM 5/6/2007, DAVE WHITE wrote: >I wonder if I should visit him and ask for my QSL cards? He cna't run >away this time... :-) > >Dave G0OIL > >"Ronald Loneker Sr." wrote: >He's in Jail in California for massive credit card forgery according to >what I have read...He deseres it! 73/DX Ron > >DAVE WHITE wrote: > > Didn't Romeo Stepanenko get extradited from Cyprus to the USA a while > > ago regarding some credit card fraud, or money laundering charge? > > What happened to him? > > > > Dave G0OIL > > > > */harris_ruben /* wrote: > > > > O Romeo, wherefore art thou, Romeo? > > > > In a new very hot place, perhaps? > > > > N2ERN > > > > -- > > Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur > > > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > > http://njdxa.org > > > > > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > > http://njdxa.org > >-- >Ronald Loneker Sr.- KA2BZS >#1DXCC Honor Roll - 9BDXCC >A-1 Op - QCWA >http://www.cwforever.com > > > >Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems >http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > >To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > >This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA >http://njdxa.org > > > >Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems >http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > >To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > >This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA >http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Fw: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
- Original Message - From: "Gerry Hohn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen Based on using other, more capable stations, everyone could be on the Honour Role. Personally I take pride in working them with my modest station (small vertical antennas and and AL80A linear) and enjoying the thrill of hearing my call in the pileup. Over many years I've managed to get to 6BDXCC and 332 countries (331 confirmed) though a lot of patience, good like and maybe a bit of skill. That being said, to each there own. Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX DXCC Field Checker-Southern Alberta VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-6520 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ - Original Message - From: "W2AGN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen Charles Gallo wrote: On 5/6/2007 Peter Dougherty wrote: I'm willing to wager that for most of the complainers, if they did two things they'd get a lot more in the log. Buy a small amp. 600W or 800W makes a HUGE difference (difference between working an ultra-rare one and not), and two, if putting up a yagi - even a small one - isn't possible replace their 15 year old feedline with something that's not green and full of water on the inside. Frankly, though, a wire at 15 feet above the ground is really never going to cut it except near solar max, and even then Pete, your right - but there are 2 other options - don't complain if you don't work'em, and 2, make good ham friends who let you wake them up at all hours of the morning to use THEIR setups, while you're planning on putting up your own tri-bander and wires - thanks again for letting me work #180 from your place -- 73 de KG2V You know, following this thread is enough to turn one off DXing. The ones that worked BS7H are sneeringly demeaning those who didn't, criticizing their operating, etc. Then, I find they consider it acceptable to go work the DX from someone ELSE'S station? Seems very unsporting to me. I didn't even bother. I am only a minor DXer, with only 160 countries since I moved to NJ. BUT, they were all with 5 watts or less.. BTW, I happen to know that a few QRPers DID work BS7H. Now THEY can brag about operating procedures. The guy that has to go to someone else's rig to run a KW+ has no bragginmg rights, IMHO. --- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
On Sun, 6 May 2007, Peter Dougherty wrote: > > heh. The club station in question for me was the Hall of Science in > Queens, WB2JSM, of which I'm a life member and past VP and station > manager. I don't restrict myself artificially when it comes to > all-time new ones, with one exception: I won't be spoon-fed on a > handicapped DX net. If I can't work from my home station I will visit > a station where I can work them from (and will let me use my own > call). I'll use full legal power, the cluster, my ears and anything > else that will give me an advantage and get my call in their logs. > Yes, I've used a DX net in the past, but would never dream of > accepting assistance from anybody on that net. If I work the guy, I > exchange signal reports and if I don't get through, so be it (this > was back in my 100W/wire days, before I knew better). > Our local contest club K9CU had a QTH for a few years we called "Area 51D". We don't have it anymore. It was a rat-infested building out in the middle of nowhere that belonged to the University of Illinois. It had power but no water or heat. We did have a tribander up over 100 feet and a couple dipoles for 40 and 80 up that high. But there were no rigs left at the station. If you wanted to operate you were free to come out with your own rig and put up with the rats. The antenna performed very well and I live about 5 minutes from the site. I used to go out in the daytime once in a while to see what I could work. I think I worked one of Baldur's operations from there. I never could get up the nerve to go out there at night unless there were others out there. :-) There are a few photos of it at http://www.qsl.net/k9cu 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
On May 6, 2007, at 4:53 PM, john wrote: Didn't Don Miller just get out of jail , relatively recently? Yes, see this: http://www.qsl.at/common/miller.html There is an interview with him. Joe, KC0VKN John At 05:15 PM 5/6/2007, DAVE WHITE wrote: I wonder if I should visit him and ask for my QSL cards? He cna't run away this time... :-) Dave G0OIL "Ronald Loneker Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: He's in Jail in California for massive credit card forgery according to what I have read...He deseres it! 73/DX Ron DAVE WHITE wrote: > Didn't Romeo Stepanenko get extradited from Cyprus to the USA a while > ago regarding some credit card fraud, or money laundering charge? > What happened to him? > > Dave G0OIL > > */harris_ruben /* wrote: > > O Romeo, wherefore art thou, Romeo? > > In a new very hot place, perhaps? > > N2ERN > > -- > Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org -- Ronald Loneker Sr.- KA2BZS #1DXCC Honor Roll - 9BDXCC A-1 Op - QCWA http://www.cwforever.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx- chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
Didn't Don Miller just get out of jail , relatively recently? John At 05:15 PM 5/6/2007, DAVE WHITE wrote: I wonder if I should visit him and ask for my QSL cards? He cna't run away this time... :-) Dave G0OIL "Ronald Loneker Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: He's in Jail in California for massive credit card forgery according to what I have read...He deseres it! 73/DX Ron DAVE WHITE wrote: > Didn't Romeo Stepanenko get extradited from Cyprus to the USA a while > ago regarding some credit card fraud, or money laundering charge? > What happened to him? > > Dave G0OIL > > */harris_ruben /* wrote: > > O Romeo, wherefore art thou, Romeo? > > In a new very hot place, perhaps? > > N2ERN > > -- > Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org -- Ronald Loneker Sr.- KA2BZS #1DXCC Honor Roll - 9BDXCC A-1 Op - QCWA http://www.cwforever.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
I would start with past ARRL President Bob Dennisiton, W0DX / VP2VI, who has been credited with being the "father of the modern Dxpeditions." Bob headed up the "Gon-Waki" dxpedition during the 1948 ARRL DX Contest. The call used was VP7NG and the name was a play on words from Thor Heyerdahl's Kon-Tiki" expedition the previous year. He showed up on Clipperton in 1954 and gave me Malpelo in 1969. Bob retired and moved to VP2V land where he ran an island hotel and bar until he became a SK. Another pioneer and good friend of mine was Dick McKercher, W0MLY, from Iowa. Dick or WOHMMLY as he was sometimes called, went into deepest, dark Africa (Dick's description) in the early 60's with a convoy of vehicles loaded with generators, amps, etc. Try to imagine the logistics of transporting a fully equipped KW station across Africa in 1962. He operated from, TJ, TL, TN, TR, TT, TX, and a few other places that I can not recall at the moment. Too many years ago. Either CQ or QST had a cover picture of Dick's Hallicrafters invasion of Africa. I saw Dick at W5KFT's Dx Bash a year or so before he became a SK in 1999. Still full of stories. Wouldn't it be fun to set in on a reunion of these folks. A whole room full of those "one of a kinds." Wonder if Dick would organize a little commotion like he did at the NJDXA's Dayton hospitality suite in 1974? I will leave it to the NJDXA guys to tell the rest of that story. John AE5B Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers (fwd)
Vlad UA4WHX 73, George HA5WA -- Továbbított levél -- Dátum: Sun, 6 May 2007 13:45:36 -0700 Feladó: Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Címzett: DX Chat Tárgy: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers Ron, ZL1AMO On May 6, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Ken Boasi wrote: > How about: DJ6SI, DL7FT, SM0AGD, F2JD, VK9NS? > > A few others may come to mind if the cobwebs clear... Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org __ 2600 állásból Te is találsz megfelelőt! Mérnöki, értékesítői, asszisztensi, pénzügyi és IT állások a Jobline.hu-n! http://www.jobline.hu Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
I wonder if I should visit him and ask for my QSL cards? He cna't run away this time... :-) Dave G0OIL "Ronald Loneker Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: He's in Jail in California for massive credit card forgery according to what I have read...He deseres it! 73/DX Ron DAVE WHITE wrote: > Didn't Romeo Stepanenko get extradited from Cyprus to the USA a while > ago regarding some credit card fraud, or money laundering charge? > What happened to him? > > Dave G0OIL > > */harris_ruben /* wrote: > > O Romeo, wherefore art thou, Romeo? > > In a new very hot place, perhaps? > > N2ERN > > -- > Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org > > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > http://njdxa.org -- Ronald Loneker Sr.- KA2BZS #1DXCC Honor Roll - 9BDXCC A-1 Op - QCWA http://www.cwforever.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] working from WHERE??
You have a choice: 1. Draw your own line, in which case no one can criticize your choices 2. Pursue an award and abide by its rules ARRL awards are pretty explicit about what you can and can't do. With WAS, for example, "Contacts must be made from the same location, or from locations no two of which are more than 50 miles apart". But if you've got your own idea of how to work all 50 states and want to count confirmed QSOs made on a handheld while driving through them, that's fine; just don't submit such QSOs for WAS credit. Those competing for ARRL WAS, DXCC, Challenge, and/or Honor Roll do expect their co-competitors to play by the rules. So using an internet link to your friend's station in JA to get a better shot at BS7H would be unacceptable in this context. But walking over to the contest super-station next door is fine. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of harris_ruben Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 4:25 PM To: dx-chat List Subject: [DX-CHAT] working from WHERE?? >The guy that has to go to someone else's rig to run a KW+ has no >bragginmg rights, IMHO. This is just meant as food for thought. No opinion here, only questions. I've never done it, but ask... "How is that any different from a ham who has a place (and station) in NJ and, say... Miami or Aspen? When I worked the first Swains Island expedition, I was in Maryland, at my vacation home, with a 17M inverted vee and a barefoot FT-900. One of the easiest contacts I ever made. Should I lose that contact because I wasn't at my NJ place? The only difference I see is that the physical station and all the work that went into it was someone else's work. How about a ham who lives in a covenanted dwelling and goes to his club to work DX? He has no other options. The between-the-ears part, the technique, the tuning and hunting techniques certainly belongs to the guy making the contact, regardless of where he may be. The rules say that "anywhere in the US" counts for just that - the US, without regard to location or station. I can go on. If I lent my linear and rig to another ham, should his qso count? What if he drove over and hooked his own rig up to MY amp and antenna? Where do you draw the line? -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
He's in Jail in California for massive credit card forgery according to what I have read...He deseres it! 73/DXRon DAVE WHITE wrote: Didn't Romeo Stepanenko get extradited from Cyprus to the USA a while ago regarding some credit card fraud, or money laundering charge? What happened to him? Dave G0OIL */harris_ruben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: O Romeo, wherefore art thou, Romeo? In a new very hot place, perhaps? N2ERN -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- Ronald Loneker Sr.- KA2BZS #1DXCC Honor Roll - 9BDXCC A-1 Op - QCWA http://www.cwforever.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
--- Gary Danaher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > During a recent adult discussion we were kicking around names of some > famous old timers and how they changed the hobby, but couldn't think of > any outstanding 'characters' after Don Miller who might have been > roaming the Earth during the 70's and 80's. Anyone offer suggestions > here for 'pioneers' following Don and before Martti and Chuck Brady? There are some excellent pages about Gus Browning and Don Miller at this web site: http://www.qsl.at/english/welcome.html Certainly guys like OH2BH, SM0AGD, Danny Weil, the Colvins, the Hensons, DL7FT, DJ9ZB come to mind. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
NEVER Forget the Colvins HK3CW wrote: And how bout the Colvins? - Original Message - From: "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers At 02:09 PM 5/6/2007, Gary Danaher wrote: Anyone offer suggestions here for 'pioneers' following Don and before Martti and Chuck Brady? I don't know how the chronology fits in, but Gus Browning and Danny Weil have to be in that category. 73, Mike, W5UC "age & treachery will overcome youth & skill" http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- Ronald Loneker Sr.- KA2BZS #1DXCC Honor Roll - 9BDXCC A-1 Op - QCWA http://www.cwforever.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
Ron, ZL1AMO On May 6, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Ken Boasi wrote: How about: DJ6SI, DL7FT, SM0AGD, F2JD, VK9NS? A few others may come to mind if the cobwebs clear... Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] n7yp
I live in South Carolina and N7YP who lives about 30 miles north of me worked the BS7 on both 17 and 20 SSB. But thats not the real kicker, he was running 100watts and a 135 ft dipole at 70 feet. He uses an old TS-430S Kenwood transceiver. The dipole has to be tuned through a tuner and is fed with ladder-line. He is now the big gun DXer around these parts. I listened every day and I only had propagation one day for about 2 hours on twenty meters. During that time the SSB station peaked at S-9. I missed the only opening we had on 17 meters because I was at work, so I only made one 20 meter SSB contact. I heard the 20 meter CW station loud enough to work, but the operator had to be sending 50 wpm. I can read my call and 5nn sent at 40 wpm, but not at 50wpm. I would have liked to have worked him. I have my call and report in my memory so I can send it perfectly at any speed. I am really not a CW operator, but I can manage to work most DXpeditions using 2 keys on my transceiver. My rig is a TS-2000, AL-1200 and a 3-element SteppIR at 65 feet. I am not one of the big guns, but I did get through by being there when we had propagation and by calling on the right frequency, a very important part of working DX. I did have to call him for over 1 hour to get through and I got through about 45 minutes before we lost propagation. I could hear him most days, but not well enough to have worked him again. 73 Jim Abercrombie N4JA STILL AT #1 on the DXCC Honor Roll Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
Didn't Romeo Stepanenko get extradited from Cyprus to the USA a while ago regarding some credit card fraud, or money laundering charge? What happened to him? Dave G0OIL harris_ruben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: O Romeo, wherefore art thou, Romeo? In a new very hot place, perhaps? N2ERN -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] working from WHERE??
The guy that has to go to someone else's rig to run a KW+ has no bragginmg rights, IMHO. This is just meant as food for thought. No opinion here, only questions. I've never done it, but ask... "How is that any different from a ham who has a place (and station) in NJ and, say... Miami or Aspen? When I worked the first Swains Island expedition, I was in Maryland, at my vacation home, with a 17M inverted vee and a barefoot FT-900. One of the easiest contacts I ever made. Should I lose that contact because I wasn't at my NJ place? The only difference I see is that the physical station and all the work that went into it was someone else's work. How about a ham who lives in a covenanted dwelling and goes to his club to work DX? He has no other options. The between-the-ears part, the technique, the tuning and hunting techniques certainly belongs to the guy making the contact, regardless of where he may be. The rules say that "anywhere in the US" counts for just that - the US, without regard to location or station. I can go on. If I lent my linear and rig to another ham, should his qso count? What if he drove over and hooked his own rig up to MY amp and antenna? Where do you draw the line? -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
How about: DJ6SI, DL7FT, SM0AGD, F2JD, VK9NS? A few others may come to mind if the cobwebs clear... --- Gary Danaher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > During a recent adult discussion we were kicking > around names of some > famous old timers and how they changed the hobby, > but couldn't think of > any outstanding 'characters' after Don Miller who > might have been > roaming the Earth during the 70's and 80's. Anyone > offer suggestions > here for 'pioneers' following Don and before Martti > and Chuck Brady? > > > Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems > http://njdxa.org/dx-chat > > To post a message, DX related items only, > dx-chat@njdxa.org > > This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA > > http://njdxa.org > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Honest answer? I don't care what you think. I help Pete out setting up his house and station, he's helped me with mine, and will be here when my antennas go up next month. It's called friendship. Frankly, I'm NOT a serious DXer - I have 6-7 all time new ones sitting here - haven't bothered send a card. It's only paper Yeah - it's nicer when you work them from home - but living in NYC, short (and low) wires is what you live with unless you get lucky - after 3 years, I figured out how to fit a small beam - or you join a club. Question for you - how is a club different than a friends place? Brag about it working BS7? Nope - Brag about having good enough friends that will let me use their station? Yep. On 5/6/2007 W2AGN wrote: > BTW, I happen to know that a few QRPers DID work BS7H. Now THEY can brag about > operating procedures. The guy that has to go to someone else's rig to run a > KW+ > has no bragginmg rights, IMHO. -- 73 de KG2V For the Children - RKBA! Boycott shampoo!!! Demand REAL poo! Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
O Romeo, wherefore art thou, Romeo? In a new very hot place, perhaps? N2ERN -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Charles Gallo wrote: On 5/6/2007 Peter Dougherty wrote: I'm willing to wager that for most of the complainers, if they did two things they'd get a lot more in the log. Buy a small amp. 600W or 800W makes a HUGE difference (difference between working an ultra-rare one and not), and two, if putting up a yagi - even a small one - isn't possible replace their 15 year old feedline with something that's not green and full of water on the inside. Frankly, though, a wire at 15 feet above the ground is really never going to cut it except near solar max, and even then Pete, your right - but there are 2 other options - don't complain if you don't work'em, and 2, make good ham friends who let you wake them up at all hours of the morning to use THEIR setups, while you're planning on putting up your own tri-bander and wires - thanks again for letting me work #180 from your place -- 73 de KG2V You know, following this thread is enough to turn one off DXing. The ones that worked BS7H are sneeringly demeaning those who didn't, criticizing their operating, etc. Then, I find they consider it acceptable to go work the DX from someone ELSE'S station? Seems very unsporting to me. I didn't even bother. I am only a minor DXer, with only 160 countries since I moved to NJ. BUT, they were all with 5 watts or less.. BTW, I happen to know that a few QRPers DID work BS7H. Now THEY can brag about operating procedures. The guy that has to go to someone else's rig to run a KW+ has no bragginmg rights, IMHO. --- _____ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W )( 2 )( A )( G )( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
And how bout the Colvins? - Original Message - From: "Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers At 02:09 PM 5/6/2007, Gary Danaher wrote: Anyone offer suggestions here for 'pioneers' following Don and before Martti and Chuck Brady? I don't know how the chronology fits in, but Gus Browning and Danny Weil have to be in that category. 73, Mike, W5UC "age & treachery will overcome youth & skill" http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
At 02:09 PM 5/6/2007, Gary Danaher wrote: Anyone offer suggestions here for 'pioneers' following Don and before Martti and Chuck Brady? I don't know how the chronology fits in, but Gus Browning and Danny Weil have to be in that category. 73, Mike, W5UC "age & treachery will overcome youth & skill" http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] DXing pioneers
During a recent adult discussion we were kicking around names of some famous old timers and how they changed the hobby, but couldn't think of any outstanding 'characters' after Don Miller who might have been roaming the Earth during the 70's and 80's. Anyone offer suggestions here for 'pioneers' following Don and before Martti and Chuck Brady? Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
On 5/6/2007 Peter Dougherty wrote: > I'm willing to wager that for most of the complainers, if they did > two things they'd get a lot more in the log. Buy a small amp. 600W or > 800W makes a HUGE difference (difference between working an > ultra-rare one and not), and two, if putting up a yagi - even a small > one - isn't possible replace their 15 year old feedline with > something that's not green and full of water on the inside. Frankly, > though, a wire at 15 feet above the ground is really never going to > cut it except near solar max, and even then Pete, your right - but there are 2 other options - don't complain if you don't work'em, and 2, make good ham friends who let you wake them up at all hours of the morning to use THEIR setups, while you're planning on putting up your own tri-bander and wires - thanks again for letting me work #180 from your place -- 73 de KG2V For the Children - RKBA! "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined" -- Patrick Henry Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
At 02:20 PM 05/06/2007, Mike(W5UC) & Kathy(K5MWH) wrote: IMHO what is between the ears counts at least as much as that 1.5 KW amp and a giant antenna at 100 feet, and when the chips are down, that big killer signal isn't worth much if you don't know what to do with it. So true. I have to wonder how many folks who didn't get the BS7 just parked on one frequency and kept calling over and over and over and over, not trying to find his QSX or his pattern. That's how I've gotten every single rare one, without exception. When he's on a fixed split, play to the fringes and be as loud as you can be. Works every time. Am I the first one through? Hell no, but if there's propagation between me and the DX, and the DX is wide open or calling North America I'll be in the log within the first hour that (a) he's audible, and (b) I'm at the radio. Well, unless Glorioso makes it to the airwaves this year, I think the only other interesting operations (that have been announced) will be Agalega/St. Brandon (June to Agalega, September to St. Brandon). Here's hoping St. Barts gets "new one"status soon, or a DXpedition to another top-10 or top-20 most-needed entity is in the planning stages . Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
At 10:05 AM 5/6/2007, Peter Dougherty wrote: I'm willing to wager that for most of the complainers, if they did two things they'd get a lot more in the log. Buy a small amp. 600W or 800W makes a HUGE difference Amen Peter. However, I sincerely believe there are other factors involved that the new or relatively new DX'er doesn't have, and can't buy. It's called experience, or maybe savvy. Equipment wise, I'm not too far from the bottom of the pecking order. I have a 20 year old Cushcraft A3 at 75 feet, and a Heath Warrior struggling to get 500 watts out, but still I don't miss anything. Am I something special? Absolutely not. I have just been in enough pile-ups(and so have a lot of you) to know how to read the operators, and the pile-up. My favorite response when someone asks what you have to do to be on the Honor Roll is; "Get Old". IMHO what is between the ears counts at least as much as that 1.5 KW amp and a giant antenna at 100 feet, and when the chips are down, that big killer signal isn't worth much if you don't know what to do with it. Those jokers sitting around crying the blues will just have to do what the rest of us old goats did. Wait, keep chasing DX, and learn. 73, Mike "age & treachery will overcome youth & skill" http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote
I never heard them so no contact, but that's alright. It's not the end of my world and just knowing they made the heroic effort to get out there is significant in my mind. However, I did make a small financial contribution via PayPal at the BS7H website http://www.scarboroughreef.com/ and I strongly encourage others to donate if they have not already done so. A DXpedition such as this costs big bucks and if those of us who didn't work them ever want to see BS7 again, a little financial assistance now will go a long way to ensuring that another trip will happen. I sure know it takes me three to four years to financially recover from my own mini-DXpeditions to VO2 Labrador (Zone 2) and I'm just a little operation (about 6000 bucks for my 2004 trip; my anticipated 2009 trip will be at least $9000); I have no idea what BS7H cost, but it had to have been in the hundreds of thousands of dollars; I understand 3Y0X cost over a million. DXing from the operation side is expensive! 73 de Fred Stevens K2FRD, VO2FS http://homepage.mac.com/k2frd/K2FRD.html At 11:56 AM -0400 6/5/07, harris_ruben wrote: >The BEST quote, as reported by the XYL, was me waking her up when I yelled (on >the last day)... > >"FINALLY!" > >The irony of it all is that today, 12 hours after they shut down, the openings >from the East coast to the far East was... superb. Hong Hong, China, Korea ... >all booming in. A day late and a dollar short. > >And my station is modest (to me). An Explorer-14 at 50', a venerable FT-990, >and a kilowatt. Oh yeah, a voice-saving digital voice keyer (which also kept >the noise in the house down to a minimum). > >Personally, I don't think this rockpile belongs on the list, and wouldn't be >surprised if it's eventually removed. > >And congratulations to all who were in there trying, whether getting through >or not. That's DX. > >N2ERN Moved from DX-News-- At 10:49 AM -0500 6/5/07, Gkcarr wrote: >I for one missed it. Only twice did I hear very weak signals. However, I am >glad for those who did log it. And Surely I can speak for many when I say >"thank you" to all the team for your persistance, vision and courage. >73 >George >WA5KBH >(EM30) SW Louisiana -- 73 and Yours In Scouting de Fred Stevens K2FRD, VO2FS Editor-Publisher Otschodela Council Amateur Radio Group EAGLE newsletter "The only regularly published ham-Scouting newsletter in the world." No spam, no cost, no advertisements, no commitments, just ham-Scouting. http://ocarg.org Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote
The BEST quote, as reported by the XYL, was me waking her up when I yelled (on the last day)... "FINALLY!" The irony of it all is that today, 12 hours after they shut down, the openings from the East coast to the far East was... superb. Hong Hong, China, Korea ... all booming in. A day late and a dollar short. And my station is modest (to me). An Explorer-14 at 50', a venerable FT-990, and a kilowatt. Oh yeah, a voice-saving digital voice keyer (which also kept the noise in the house down to a minimum). Personally, I don't think this rockpile belongs on the list, and wouldn't be surprised if it's eventually removed. And congratulations to all who were in there trying, whether getting through or not. That's DX. N2ERN -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
At 11:23 AM 05/06/2007, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote: I had to visit a better station to work the rare ones (my club's station, with a Cushcraft X9 at 120' and a kW in the shack). I've always resisted that. Even when I was in college and we had an X9 at the club station (K2CC), it was the rig in my dorm room and a wire or nothing at all. Just a personal handicap on the whole DXing biz, but you're not going to see me whining on the cluster. Of course, I was dorm hamming at solar max last time so I was knocking down new ones (T30 comes to mind) on 10m with a 12 foot wire. heh. The club station in question for me was the Hall of Science in Queens, WB2JSM, of which I'm a life member and past VP and station manager. I don't restrict myself artificially when it comes to all-time new ones, with one exception: I won't be spoon-fed on a handicapped DX net. If I can't work from my home station I will visit a station where I can work them from (and will let me use my own call). I'll use full legal power, the cluster, my ears and anything else that will give me an advantage and get my call in their logs. Yes, I've used a DX net in the past, but would never dream of accepting assistance from anybody on that net. If I work the guy, I exchange signal reports and if I don't get through, so be it (this was back in my 100W/wire days, before I knew better). Luckily (???) I'm now at the point that anything I need will be through DXpeditions. BS7H was number 300 in the log for me. I read that email on scarboroughreef.com ... you know, the profane guy with atrocious spelling... and I wondered what piece of crap he was trying to work BS7H on because I read his comments while I was hearing them just fine here near DC on my delta loop at 25 feet, and I have power line noise! Yeah, another real piece ofwork. Now AA8CH is ranting and whining on the e-ham DX forum, too. How much you wanna bet he's a colonel or captiain in the DX Police Deptarment, too :-) Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Dan, you hit the nail on the head. If you fancy yourself a DXer you need a station to cash the cheques your mouth writes, first and foremost. If all you can afford is 100W and a wire, then you're a fair-weather DXer (solar-wise). Fortunately for me on 30m and below that wire is 60 feet long and vertical. I got VU7RG on Day 1 on 40m CW! Now that I'm thinking about it, I shoulda stuck a phasing coil in the middle of the 60 footer and used it on 20m !! I had to visit a better station to work the rare ones (my club's station, with a Cushcraft X9 at 120' and a kW in the shack). I've always resisted that. Even when I was in college and we had an X9 at the club station (K2CC), it was the rig in my dorm room and a wire or nothing at all. Just a personal handicap on the whole DXing biz, but you're not going to see me whining on the cluster. Of course, I was dorm hamming at solar max last time so I was knocking down new ones (T30 comes to mind) on 10m with a 12 foot wire. The U of MD station, W3EAX, has the big tribander stuck north right now but that would have been just fine. I'd prefer to wait for the next one... I went with the Force-12 C31XR and have not regretted it for a minute. 6dB over dipole on 20, 6.8 over a dipole on 15 and 7.4 over dipole on 10, 70 feet up, fed with 3/8" hardline and connected to an AL-1200 legal-limit amp and a pretty good transceiver. An achievable station for many hams if they're serious about the DX, for sure. I'm still a renter, so a 70 foot tower is really out. If you can't afford a good station or you've chosen to live in a CC&R-restricted property that's fine; nobody's going to point their fingers at you and laugh, unless you start to whinge when you can't break through the piles of the bigger operations. Exactly. Ultimately, it all comes down to the choices you make about your ham radio activities, and I think you can do things even on a shoestring budget. Heck, if I'd dropped a few hundred bucks on a used amp before this operation went up, and put up my $70 beam for day 1 instead of day 3, I might very well have them in the log. I chose to not make a huge deal of this one because I'm planning on DXing for another 40 or 50 years... I put a little work in and built the beam and put it up in a couple of configurations just to see if I could squeak through. I read that email on scarboroughreef.com ... you know, the profane guy with atrocious spelling... and I wondered what piece of crap he was trying to work BS7H on because I read his comments while I was hearing them just fine here near DC on my delta loop at 25 feet, and I have power line noise! Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
At 10:17 AM 05/06/2007, Dan Zimmerman N3OX wrote: I can't believe the nerve of people who think they're entitled to a contact with the DX just because there's a DXpedition on. It doesn't matter that they're a poor operator, it doesn't matter that their antenna system is garbage and they're running low power, they think it's the DXpedition's fault. The fact of the matter is that those of us on this coast who have built a radio station that can be used to contact some guys running medium power to simple verticals on some rocks 8000 miles away are the ones who get the contact. It's a team effort, but I think the major monster DXpeditions who can work EVERYONE in a particular geographical area have made some people decide that everything must be that way, even if it's technically impossible. Dan, you hit the nail on the head. If you fancy yourself a DXer you need a station to cash the cheques your mouth writes, first and foremost. If all you can afford is 100W and a wire, then you're a fair-weather DXer (solar-wise). You'll do well with sunspots, but will struggle at this point in the cycle. That was me from 2001 until 2003, after which I added a little AL-811 amp (600W). I had an Alpha-Delta DX-EE at about 45 feet up. 225 countries, more or less, 5B DXCC, WAZ, WAS, too. In 2004 and early 2005 it was rough, though, and my ability to get through the piles was a lot harder. I had to visit a better station to work the rare ones (my club's station, with a Cushcraft X9 at 120' and a kW in the shack). When I moved out here to New Jersey I had a choice of what I could put up. I enjoy contesting, but I'm a DXer first and foremost. I could have stuck up a 3 element tribander and some RG-8 and called it a day, but I knew I wanted a real shot at BS7 or P5 if either would ever come on again, and I wanted to be in the log first-day of any DXpedition that came down the pike. I went with the Force-12 C31XR and have not regretted it for a minute. 6dB over dipole on 20, 6.8 over a dipole on 15 and 7.4 over dipole on 10, 70 feet up, fed with 3/8" hardline and connected to an AL-1200 legal-limit amp and a pretty good transceiver. If you can't afford a good station or you've chosen to live in a CC&R-restricted property that's fine; nobody's going to point their fingers at you and laugh, unless you start to whinge when you can't break through the piles of the bigger operations. We all have to start somewhere, with something, and if that setup leaves you in the dust for BS7, P5, 7O, etc, so be it. Ed was on in P5 when I lived at my old apartment with the wire and 600W. I heard him exactly once, and he had a pileup big enough to choke a horse that I had no hope of getting through. That's life. P5 will be on again, and I hope my station here will still be working when it does come back up. I'm willing to wager that for most of the complainers, if they did two things they'd get a lot more in the log. Buy a small amp. 600W or 800W makes a HUGE difference (difference between working an ultra-rare one and not), and two, if putting up a yagi - even a small one - isn't possible replace their 15 year old feedline with something that's not green and full of water on the inside. Frankly, though, a wire at 15 feet above the ground is really never going to cut it except near solar max, and even then Cheers, Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
Very well said Dan! I agree 100%. Gud D.X. and 73! N2RRA Eric ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Best BS7H quote I have seen
I didn't really need a super-fancy antenna system either. No stacks, no long-boom monobanders, just a Force 12 C31XR up 70' or so (3 elements for 20m on a 31 foot boom), but having a legal-limit amp and diversity-receive on the Mark V really did make things go easier. Compared to my 100W and Moxon rectangle at (maybe) 30 feet, that's big gun stuff ;-) I couldn't believe the cluster-crabs whining like girlie-men, and especially one nutjob in 8-land who needs some serious couch time - or at least a tribander, good feedline and a decent amp for next time. Exactly. This moron probably was trying to get them on a G5RV strung North-South with 100W and had done the same with N8S and other recent DXpeditions where propagation favored the Eastern half of the US. I can't believe the nerve of people who think they're entitled to a contact with the DX just because there's a DXpedition on. It doesn't matter that they're a poor operator, it doesn't matter that their antenna system is garbage and they're running low power, they think it's the DXpedition's fault. The fact of the matter is that those of us on this coast who have built a radio station that can be used to contact some guys running medium power to simple verticals on some rocks 8000 miles away are the ones who get the contact. It's a team effort, but I think the major monster DXpeditions who can work EVERYONE in a particular geographical area have made some people decide that everything must be that way, even if it's technically impossible. I worked 3Y0X from an apartment building using a hundred watts into a 100' magnet wire doublet. I got them on 20m and 30m CW... AND 40M ***SSB***. I think anyone with the same setup and some persistence could have done the same. Given propagation and the ridiculous conditions on BS7H, that's practically impossible, to work Eastern US stations with similar equipment. I'm young, I have time to wait. I'm just happy that I was still hearing them well enough to call on 20m after "14024 BS7H Faded Out" spots started hitting the cluster. I made my best effort from here given constraints of other commitments, time, and money, and my best effort wasn't good enough. No whining here, but you can bet I'll be really ready for the next one. 73, Dan Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Fw: cqsong
Oh- God! have we come to this???bring back BS7 Tom - GM4FDM nick cominos wrote: *Subject:* cq song A good Ham friend sent this along to me.quite amusing but really fun to listen to..enjoy. GL/DX vy 73, Nick W9UM..CQ CQ CQ http://www.zerobeat.net/cqsong.html Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Re:W5EC vs BS7H
OC Bill, CONGRATULATIONS !!! Now, go back to Doctors & take care of Your life, is much imortant than any DXCC rocks who can be deleted tmw!!! All the verry best to You and Yours & Take care!!! Stay Tuned & GL on SIX !!! 73 GL&DX!!!de: Mome - Z32ZM http://www.qsl.net/z32zm - Original Message - From: "Bill Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 3:53 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] BS7H on any band-Trouble, trouble, trouble > Let me tell you my sad story.Long but true. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
