There are none.
It's worth noting though, that all you have to do is send your gold
to almost any market maker (gaithmans.com, icegold.com, goldnow.st ..
whoever) and have them send a check to the broker for you. This
would be no slower, harder, or trickier than funding direct to the
PAYMENT_URL in the source code reveals everything!!!
! You need to read the full documentation, and understand how SCIs work!
Can anybody tell me an easy reliable way to automatically verify e-gold
payments?
Yes, use a professional programming company like ISL to create your software :)
http://e-gold.com is real SLOW just now from many parts of the world?
Or just these Aussie ISPs?
strange stuff..
JP!
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Has anybody considered the e-dinar connection?
Surely that is aimed at the Muslim community and it is conceivable they
would hesitate to continue to support an American system
Muslim users of e-dinar may also be worried about retribution from
their community if they are seen to be
I'm looking for a Roi Sachs in Canada! His email address is not working!
thank you!
JP May
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Did you know that e-metal is a wonderful holiday gift? Avoid the hassle this
FWIW, as it happens ISL is devloping the software for a completely
automated interchange between DGCs system, for a substantial
forward-thinking client.
I imagine when this new site is launched it will pretty much
completely resolve all issues regarding interchange BETWEEN DGCs.
Ultimately
http://www.bananagold.com/bob.html
Bob's view: It's probably the politics (price manipulation) in the charts.
Don't forget -- everything is STILL available at NO markup at
Bananagold. Buy ANYTHING from Amazon.com now and pay with a DGC.
Playstation 2 just dropped in price - take advantage
are all the babies (JP, Julian and Jeff!)?
My one is good --- but she needs more gold man :)
JPM
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Paul Johnson: http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=95001283
Robert Tracinski: http://www.aynrand.org/medialink/columns/rt100801.shtml
Just a reminder .. at
http://bananagold.com
it is still TOTALLY FREE to buy anything you want from Amazon.com.
This is Banana's it's good to be on the winning side War Celebration sale.
You don't get a lot cheaper than free.
Go for it and enjoy!
-Banana-
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http://www.bananagold.com/bob.html
A new, longer, Bob article ..
The piper always gets paid, or, there's a reason
the word iron is in the phrase 'The iron laws of economics'
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we have ALSO determined the lawyer's for e-gold's side in the Patentwars!
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Don't forget thanks to publisher Joe Moorman, planetgold.com is
completely FREE (for now anyway), so make the most of it! Read daily
or
GSR Investor Idicted!
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I have something to report. JPM what about this: on 1st of Octomber 2001 I
checked my account and everything was ok, my money were there. I checked
my balance yesterday and NOTHING. How do you explain this ? I never
accepted to send my money to anyone than me and somebody broke into my
account
Great stuff, terrific!
Publicity!
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Maybe, but they're up about 7 bars of gold in the past few weeks. That's a
lot of mula, combined with a record increase in the number of accounts for
the past 3 weeks, about 3 - 4 times the median weekly increase over the past
6 months.
The increase is quite unusual and requires some
At 12:53 PM +1100 12/11/01, Michael Moore wrote:
Hardly looks the same to me,
Nah, Michael!
It's the SAME HTML, man! With the logos changed!
It's got an XxY grid showing the rates.
(Title Today's Fees)
It's got a table across showing the current reserves.
(Title: current reserves)
It's
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At 2:20 PM -0500 on 12/11/01, Ken Griffith wrote:
This is a hoot. I'll put up ten grams of gold to the person who comes up
with the best name. In one of the sessions at the conference we'll take a
vote on which is the best and I'll pay 10.0 AUG, gg, or whatever, to the
winner. (This
Apparently at Amazon.com, today is the last day for Nov 24th delivery
using normal shippping. Rush to http://bananagold.com and take
advantage!
Bananagold!
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I believe what you're saying is wrong in many ways, RJ!!
(i) the e-gold SCI is completely secure if you use it properly. Just
use the status.cgi, check the hash properly, and record all
transaction ids to ensure no-one is multi-posting a payment.
(ii) You idea of having the status.cgi
Epic amounts of e-gold are now stored with 1mdc, where you can
actually earn SMALL BONUSES on your term lodgements, rather than
paying agio. All e-gold is on hand all the time, there is no
investment or the like. Gold for nothing.
Choose 1, 3 or 12 month terms.
No promotions, no games, no
Please resubmit your message, this time quoting fewer lines of the
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GoldMoney implements a feature where you can define the return URLs
as part of your account setup. You can also choose to allow those
to be overwritten by the
As for ways to patch up these security holes - Jay W. has most eloquently
explained several possible routes in his email to the list of december 15th.
These all involve using the SCI properly or signing up with a provider (like
mals-e.com) who does. If you want to help, you can forward Jay's
are FANTASTIC. Happily I've had no
trouble with 'em.
JPM
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Dmitry,
and
generating these patterns is consuming extra CPU time.
You know that is pretty inconsequential. There are only ~ 10,000
egold spends per day. You could generate 100,000 so-called turing
test jpgs in a few minutes of computer time one night in a batch.
e-gold should
Hi CDK!
If you move all of your gold to 1mdc.com, well, then you don't have a lot
of gold :-) . I am following the stats carefully at 1mdc, and it's an
almost dead market. One big player just deposited 1.5 kg, a few days ago,
that's it, all others are chicken deposits.
CD, to be clear, 1mdc
JP May did a well-reasoned analysis of this situation
and came up with his May Scale of the hardness of money.
Do you mind to tell us newbies about your Scale?
Sure thing HeinRich!
http://interestingsoftware.com/mayscale.html
There are three long essays down the bottom (keep scrolling) in
Run, he says, don't walk, to your nearest newsstand.
Buy _Wired_ for January 2002. Turn to page 60.
Read the stuff by Julian Dibbell.
In the words of the protagonist from the film Arthur,
it doesn't suck.
I was impressed, unfavorably, by the quote from John
Maynard Keynes, whose idiotic
FDR engaged in theft and counterfeiting as a solution to a problem caused by
theft and counterfeiting. A more honest solution would have been to make
good on all gold redemptions as possible, and then begin a massive
liquidation of government assets to purchase gold on the open market until
all
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,42529,00.html
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No state shall...make any thing but gold or silver a tender
in payment of debt. Article IV as I recall, though I get
older and memory works less well.
This is article one section ten.
I think the only state that does this is Hawaii. This part of the
constitution applies to States, not the the
https://www.1mdc.com/cgi-bin/stats.cgi
With the new year, a reminder that 1mdc LODGEMENTS still exist and
you can use them.
There are now any number of large (thousands of dollars worth) deposits.
In fact the single largest deposit is a ridiculous SEVEN KILOGRAMS
(not a typo).
Do you have
At 5:23 PM -0500 1/9/02, Julian Dibbell wrote:
Now on to Jim's objections. I'll skip the arguments about Keynes and crashes
and so forth. (Like I've got time to fight a religious war, sheesh. (Though
actually, I am curious to know how Argentina fits in on the goldbug side of
the argument. Isn't a
Dear Friends,
A business associate sent the following link:
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nb20020108a4.htm
Fascinating stuff Jim
Can anyone guess which country will be #3 -- after Japan?
One gram to the winner! :)
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Question: Do You Know, Julian, what percentage
of these spends, are Hyip/Ponzi related?
And, JP May, do you know?
Jim, I DO NOT know!
-- John-Paul May
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It might be that we are going to see, in the
next three to eighteen months, what James Dale
Davidson and Lord William Rees-Mogg called
_The Great Reckoning_. In the words of T.E.
Lawrence, It's going to be fun.
Let's say Japan follows Argentina the way of the Dodo, and then a
couple of other
Let's say Japan follows Argentina the way of the Dodo, and then a
couple of other minor countries too. Let's say the 'Great Reckoning'
all happens and the USD goes to hell. The credit cycle is over!
Doom!
I don't understand. How do you envision this 'end-game' scenario coming
about?
I
Can you tell us more about this John?
Any web sites??
Thanks!
JPM
with the passage of the CARA legislation the ownership of private property,
land, is mute. CARA pretty much outlaws the private ownership of land over
the next few years.
John
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how much money
in e-gold is actually spent on HYIPs? ...
Jim, the only people who could conceivably give the exact percentages you
and JP want are the good folks at Omnipay/GSR/e-gold. Unfortunately, they
can't or won't.
Which leaves us with the next best thing: the educated
Bank wires are a farce, Claude!
They are as reversible as say credit card charges.
I've always been careful and lucky, but I know ten people who have
had large wires just simply reversed on them.
(The bank calls you a few days or a few weeks later and says oh,
that wire you got for $50,000
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Ken Webb interviewed on JOHN WAYNE ZIDAR.
It's Monday. Time for Planetgold Weekly Interview.
Facts,
David, Craig's comments were philosophical, mine on the practical
nature of property. But nevertheless:
If US political traditions consider individuals as sovereigns, what
do they consider them sovereign over? If you say 'his body' then who
is the government to say 'you shall not use your
The success of 1mdc LODGEMENTS is mind-boggling.
As of right there moment there is over one hundred thousand dollars
worth of gold in 1mdc LODGEMENTS. (Not a typo.)
My calucator doesn't have enough digits to figure the rate of growth.
Don't forget, 1mdc Lodgements have utterly nothing to do
e-gold has about 150 (correct?) bars of gold.
1mdc Lodgements
ALREADY HAS ONE OF THOSE BARS,
in system.
https://www.1mdc.com
(Incidentally 1mdc GRAMS, to be renamed fastgrams.com, is
mindbogglingly popular considering it still isn't even launched.
There are quite a few spends per
Don asks:
JP,
I still dont get it. I still dont understand how 1mdc wants to pay a
bonus for customers. A customer is one that purchases a commodity or
service. What commodity or service is 1mdc providing?
...
Is there some hidden fee for using 1mdc, like a 5%
withdrawal fee? I just dont get
Dear Readers!!
Some of you have commented things like
At 8:20 AM +1100 1/18/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I were an exchange provider, I'd be beating down JPM's door
to get him to lend me that brick.
At 1:04 PM -0500 1/17/02, Patrick Chkoreff wrote:
Graham Kelly at http://www.goldnow.st
JPM is doing.
1mdc:
Rag, absolutely not. Quite Simply:
The 1mdc Lodgement Gold Just Sits There In The 1mdc Account.
It states that over and over on the 1mdc page that the gold is
specifically never loaned out. Simply look at the public balance,
it's sitting there.
As an interesting general
Thanks to an info site RJ kindly sent me to, I found this typical (?) hyip site
http://communities.ninemsn.com.au/GOLDNEIGHT/goldneight.msnw
I went ahead and spent the 20 dollars and followed the instructions.
I used my personal account 241164
I should be getting paid $1.60 each evening at
RJ, I deifnitely appreciate your suggestion below.
It did lead me to many what look like fairly small-time,
short-duration games and hyips like eg
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/enduringgold2u/
http://communities.ninemsn.com.au/GOLDNEIGHT/goldneight.msnw
these all seem pretty small time.
For
I totally agree with SnowDog!
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Investments have risk. 1mdc Lodgemnts are simply not an investment.
It's that simple!
As I have said endlessly, the gold is very simply sitting there in
the 1mdc account (check the public balance!)
Makes sense?
But there is always risk. What happens if JP dies? (Nothing personal!)
The risks to 1mdc are the same as risks to e-gold - they are meteor
strike! type risks.
Thanks, JP. I didn't know how many people you had working with you on this
project.
SnowDog
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Hello All,
There is much excitement about payments without spend fees here,
just one question.
If 1mdc-grams will accumulate the majority of active funds
in e-gold system thus effectively creating denial of service
attack situation on e-gold revenues from spend fees, what
will be e-gold
LAS VEGAS CASINOS JOIN WITH E-BULLION!
Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:39:20 +
E-Bullion and GFCB Inc. joint ventures in progress.
E-Bullion is proud to announce that certain major Las Vegas, NV
casino resorts have committed to working with Goldfinger Coin
Bullion and E-Bullion Company Inc. to use
I was absolutely fascinated to discover the www.MagicMoneyGame.com -
THANK YOU CRAIG!!
THANK YOU CRAIG!!
THANK YOU CRAIG!!
THANK YOU CRAIG!!
THANK YOU CRAIG!!
THANK YOU CRAIG!!
Julian's contention is that e-gold is all ponzis or maybe e-gold
is all hyips or maybe putting
Peter Alfredsen:
That is amazing. I didn't know that the congress could do something like
that, without paying for it. Hasn't this decision since been overturned
by The Supreme Court?
Peter, in, uh, the early 70s it again became legal to own gold!
Let's get the full story from some experts!
Remember a few days ago I spent $25 bucks to the GOLD 'N' EIGHT hyip-game?
Sure enough!! (I'm stunned!)
They have started paying me back $1.60 per day.
The promise is they will keep doing this for at least 16 days (I will
be ahead a couple bucks), and even another 16 days IF I redeposit.
Thanks again Craig!
I have gone ahead and entered the large game you describe below.
e-metal=AE payment confirmation: Batch 4985301
Paid To: 369181 (BOT GAME / PLAY (Entry Fee))
Amount:25 US Dollars' worth of Gold
Supposedly in 5 days, I will get double back...$50.
There is it
e-metal=AE payment confirmation: Batch 4985301
Paid To: 369181 (BOT GAME / PLAY (Entry Fee))
Amount: 25 US Dollars' worth of Gold
Supposedly in 5 days, I will get double back...$50.
There is it for the whole world to see on the e-gold list.
Let's see what happens!!
Uhhh...
Excellent! Both John and me are getting paid by gold N eight!!!
Hi JP, That's a roger, payment from Gold-n-eight has started. If it keeps
up and we follow the set spends for a month we should have a nice bonus.
John
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Peter Alfredsen, you choose the Bananagold contest winner!
I choose the poster of http://www.the-privateer.com/gold.html. It
clearly and concisely gives an elegant presentation of the elaborate
history of Gold in the 20th century.
BTW
I am a little puzzled that something like this could happen
Claude wins the gram of gold from the Bananagold History Contest!
Claude Cormier
Ormetal Inc.
http://www.goldcurrencies.ca
http://www.ormetal.com
e-metal® payment confirmation: Batch 4992350
Paid To: 104173 (Ormetal Inc.)
Amount:1 grams of Gold
Memo: History Contest Winner
Since I started testing out HYIP/GAMES, many gamesters have emailed
me and most are pretty crappy as you'd expect.
However, I did come across this fairly astonishing site
http://www.sterlingidea.com
What is the idea here? It's sort of a mutual fund (!) of these games.
The operators are very
Patrick wrote:
Does anybody have any evidence, fundamental or technical, that the bear
market in gold will accelerate drastically as Andrew Smith predicts?
IMHO technical analysis is only good short-term.
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are examples of the new breed of competent,
experienced, non-pie-in-the-sky DGC-related businessmen, so he's not
going to dribble away my principal.
Three cheers, Gold Barter.
Awesome .. JPM
(PS Jim - you also neglected to mention that you're covering my
storage fee for me, while the bond is out
At 12:20 AM -0500 1/24/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm wondering what you hope to accomplish with your investigation of
these Ponzi schemes. Am I missing the downside to the Ponzi
operators here? I never thought that you were a Ponzi schemer but
hey are you really a secret agent for
Jay! Check it out man
http://interestingsoftware.com/alanbot
a turing test defeator!
JPM
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Lourens -- for what it's worth, I find the e-fidex.com card is just great.
(Nick has an appaling web site at e-fidex.com -- it is full of
pointless javascript, horrible logos and so on!!! :) But put that
aside. Nick + crew's service etc has been impeccable.)
I am sure that other cards are
What do you know ? It seems that e-gold can't handle some fraudulent
transfers. I was ripped off because e-gold system falled down because some
attacks and someone broke into my account and stolen all my money and
e-gold doesn't respond to my requests and no tracking and no history from
their
http://interestingsoftware.com/alanbot
All it does is filter the image.
Get it to assign appropriate ASCII values to those graphics and then
you got a threat -- not to difficult to do.
Parker, what the HELL are you talking about? What's got into you
man? You're talking out your ass! :) To
Ohhh The Great JPM that knows everything is ON and he gives us his
advises. It seems you know more. Speak! You feel nothing, try to
keep your own business running not being a laundering machine. Have
a great day !
!
Nevertheless, there's nothing wrong with e-gold's security, Boby
Truly fascinating analysis SnowDog!
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A sad business, Don. Thanks for the info.
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serving purposes.
The very NEXT person who buys any DVD movie via bananagold.com,
Banana will pay you back the gold for the dvd and normal shipping.
(If you buy other stuff in the order, no problem, we'll just pay you
back for the DVD shippin')
Serious!
I'll yell out as soon as someone's won.
,
it's automatic. Money orders, checks, expiring spends, invoicing,
spend-same-back-to-spendor, reject accounts, reminders, notification,
everything is included.
(You'll have to develop some new add on approach for 1mdcgrams, Khurram!)
JPM
Hello All,
We've just completed the 2.0 version
stop buying DVDs, someone has won!
Items Ordered
Price 1 of: Willy Wonka the Chocolate Factory (30th Anniversary
Edition - Widescreen) [DVD] By: Mel Stuart (Director), et al
the happy purchaser has had the order price refunded in full!
http://www.bananagold.com
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Just a note, it appears amazon.com is giving totally FREE SHIPPING on
all orders over $99 as a big promotion. A great time to buy crap,
save a lot of $.
(all amazon promotions are simply passed on in bananagold, it is
literally identical to a human entering an order at amazon)
ALSO:
Great stuff Graham! Is that one a DGC or a DC?? (Or a GBC?)
JP-C
Guys,
Today we welcome, and are currently adding another digital currency,
www.ZetX.com (Denmark) to our preferred list of ecurrencies. They have
assured me that they will be able to support the customers, and the market
There is no question that e-gold needs a crypto card for large accounts.
Go, Jay!
Eric Hollander demonstrated a crypto-card once, which gave a cryptic
response to a numerical query. In order to access his website, you had to
plug in a six digit number generated by the website, and then respond
On 4 Feb 2002, at 8:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no question that e-gold needs a crypto card for large
accounts.
Why not digital certificates. They are cheaper I think and work
really well. For those who want maximum security, you can always
have your certficicate store on a smart
Yes, that's the same idea as a cryptocard. It's great!
RSI Security makes the SecureID card which generates a new 6 digit code
every 10 seconds. Sites use this on top of a username/password combination
which makes it impossible to login unless you have the secureID in your
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That is great news, Bull Bear Trader!
In fact the gold market's premier technical analylsis bulletin
http://www.itsallinthecharts.com
also accepts e-gold or goldmoney for payment!
(Actually, we only accept DGC.)
I believe FMGR, The Ormetal Report, http://www.itsallinthecharts.com/
and
Check out http://www.xivix.net/xspenderv2.php for more info.
Xspender is awesome! everyone should have it!
On a different note, Banangold and GoldPay are awesome. I just found
that that you can shop target through bananagold. Check out the Target part
of Amazon.
I did not
Craig's summary is perfect, it can't be improved on! Nothing more
need be said!
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Silly stuff Danny!
Well, I am not going to work a whole day for $100, but I did work one of your
turing images through my
Corel-OCR-TRACE 7 software , a 5 year old ,out of date, ocr program.
Before doing that I manually removed the thin vertical and horizontal lines,
something which is not
At 3:16 AM +0530 2/5/02, Danny Van den Berghe wrote:
In my system the account is automatically locked whenever a
succesful attempt is
done on the first passphrase, but it fails on the second one. And it
is this what
makes this system so much better.
But Danny!
e-gold (and any secure system)
Jim, you have any fun bonds on?
Do you think they are lying or did hands per day just double for a few days?
JP!
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Report - John, who generously tested with me, and who even did the
reinvest step, pinched even more money from gold-N-eight (I love
that name!) than me! -JP
You didn't reinvest in golden 8? I did, next 16 days I have 40 invested
paying 3.18 a day and only 15.00 is my money. At which point,
demolished $ 292!
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Did you ever think that the people running these *games* subscribe
to this list -- and that they are making sure that YOU get paid for
all this free postive press??
An excellent point, Bosc!
My only gripe with them was that they USED to call themselves guaranteed
investments. Now, more and
So, ok, try this little program written in Visual Basic ( I am only a Sunday
afternoon programmer, so it took me a couple of hours what others
can probably do
in much shorter time).
www.fourpillars.net/finance/turingdecoder.zip
Danny, it sounds great, and you can win $100, but can you do it
No need for ocr. Just a little more code.
You import any of the e-gold turing gif images and click Process
Within a split second you get the number in asci format.
I tried with 40 samples and 37 came out correct.
I'll most probably be able to improve upon that number if I train with
Hi Ken!
I was writing to you off list!
If I'm not mistaken, GoldMoney's bars are, in fact, 400 oz LGD bars.
Is this correct, GoldMoney?
JP!
JP,
You've never heard of elephant bars?
Ken
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Most of the world's
Hi Danny!
I have nothing to do with Windows computers, sorry! Cant you just
add a line or two of code so it works on the web?!
Well, I'll see what Jay can come up with next, but it won't be easy
if you don't
move on to bigger pictures.
Of course you can make pictures that the computer
At 3:25 PM +0530 2/7/02, Danny Van den Berghe wrote:
The easiest way I see , to avoid these automated attacks on all
e-gold accounts,
is to stop using the account # for login purposes, use login names
instead (to be
choosen by the user).
It's a great idea! It's why banks do it!
Just have an
Salutations!
I asked Jason P Sorens (http://www.freestateproject.org)
An incredible idea!
The Free State Project is a plan in which 20,000 or more
liberty-oriented people will move to a single state of the U.S. to
secure a free society there...
If you have a notion,
please ask him when he
Read the latest, exciting Interview of Frank Zuchristian, of
Euro Gold Line, on Planetgold.com!
http://planetgold.com
http://planetgold.com
Regards,
Ragnar
Ragnar, that REALLY IS a great interview! You rock!
I am very pleased you replaced me as editor at Planetgold. I suck!
http://www.e-gold.com/currentexchange.html
note that the exchange rate data IS NOW PROVIDED *COURTESY OF OMNIPAY*.
That makes much more sense.
The separation of church and state continues!
Good one, e-gold! Sweet!
JP
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Note that, if I'm not mistaken, GoldMoney INHERENTLY INCLUDES a
system where you can bail in ANY GOLD COIN at spot.
That is damn cool; if I'm not mistaken it is part of the new service
Charles Evans runs which I sold coconutgold.com too.
Very simply, go to goldmoney.com and click on the bail
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