goldtr8 wrote:
Do you have an recommendations for setttings when you want to
concentrate the signal for tough band conditions or dx.
Try cutting the lower 2 or lower 3 bands of TX EQ.
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Jan Erik Holm wrote:
Yes but to what rise/fall time was the radio set? AFAIK in
the FT5000 it can be changed.
It was most likely set to the default 4 msec. It can be set to 1, 2, 4, 6
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It's only an advantage when you're trying to ward off a key clicking
neighbor. If your potential neighbors would have non-clicking rigs, there
is no advantage. In any case, you are just being a jerk (or worse) if
you're knowingly producing key clicks.
Barry N1EU
Jan Erik Holm wrote:
Yes
If you're running in a cw contest, any radio that has worse key clicks than
your radio and is a potential close neighbor, is not mighty fine.
Barry N1EU
Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2 wrote:
The FT5000 is a mighty fine transceiver!
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Are you saying that wide sidebands measured with the rig at 4msec rise-time
are probably not going to be even wider with the rig at 1 msec rise-time?
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Kok Chen wrote:
On Dec 1, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:
It's absolutely amazing, after years of Yaesu being called out
is this even legal?
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I agree. If you want a lower Q APF, just use 50hz dsp selectivity without
APF.
50hz dsp selectivity is an amazing contesting tool to isolate dx from the
calling pileup.
73, Barry N1EU
Robert Harmon wrote:
It is interesting that some of us do not experience too much
ringing
wasn't such a bad
implementation it's just that corners were cut in the IF stage and it
suffered from strong signal blow-by.
FWIW, the FT-1000MP didn't have IF DSP either.
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Nate Bargmann wrote:
* On 2010 23 Nov 06:47 -0600, Barry N1EU wrote:
FWIW, the FT-1000MP didn't have IF DSP either.
That's interesting. I assumed it did. I sat in front of a couple of
MPs in two different shacks over the years and it did
the passbands as closely as possible while observing the audio spectra, use
similar gain/agc settings, and then finally let 'er rip.
Arh, Barry N1EU
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
If this is a duplicate listing...sorry.
I really don't care about an audio comparison on just one signal
the
FT5K in that video and could make the FT5K sound just like the K3 sounded.
That video proved nothing.
Barry N1EU
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
As I said, the K3 sounded more intelligible to my ears, while the FT had
more bass content - others are allowed
I have requested this several times over the past 2 years. It's a matter of
priorities but am hopeful we might see it soon.
73, Barry N1EU
David Gilbert wrote:
I would also appreciate this capability. I understand Elecraft's
reluctance to expose the DSP code to potential corruption
K2QI wrote:
You can listen to the subrx in both ears. There is an audio mixing
function that allows you to pipe sub output to both channels.
It is not currently possible to listen to only subrx audio in both channels
via the L-MIX-R Config setting
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My interest in the audio mixing enhancement is limited to non-diversity use
of the subrx, i.e. with main rx on vfoA and subrx on vfoB tuned to a
different station.
The K3 already provides all the control I need for diversity reception.
Barry N1EU
K6KV Gary wrote:
I've been paying
but it would fundamentally enhance
panadapter-centric operating.
(CW Skimmer provides some of this capability, but it's totally limited to
callsigns decoded by Skimmer, not by the operator, etc.)
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If anyone is interested, I posted a recording of APF in action (on/off)
listening to RA0FF this morning on 160M. I also plotted the passband
spectrum of APF filtering.
http://n1eu.com/k3/k3_apf.htm
(or simply go to n1eu.com and look under K3)
73, Barry N1EU
Gain to +8dB but perhaps a more elegant solution
could be implemented.
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I should have also had Subrx Pre, ATT, NB, NR in that list of parameters to
display:
Parameters:
Main RX Width, Shift
Sub RX Width, Shift, Ant, Pre, ATT, NB, NR
TX Mic Gain, CMP, PWR, Mon
73, Barry N1EU
Barry N1EU wrote:
Yes, but I don't believe there ARE any applications that display
that it could run alongside logging programs?
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to BSET. It
seems like this simple augmented display would have wide appeal -
might also sell more K3's since other than the Orion, none of the
competing rigs have a full display offering either.
73, Barry N1EU
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net wrote:
I think Ham
VE3NFK wrote:
TRX-Manager full control of ALL parameters - resizable
trx-manager.com
Not sure folks are getting what I'm talking about. I'm talking about
something SIMPLE that just DISPLAYS parameters, to make up for the limited
K3 display real estate.
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Yes, but I don't believe there ARE any applications that display the
parameters, let alone run with LP_Bridge.
Parameters:
Main RX Width, Shift
Sub RX Width, Shift, Ant
TX Mic Gain, CMP, PWR, Mon
(and I'm sure some folks would prefer a few more)
Barry N1EU
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Don
Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
Taken with the lack of a sub-receiver, no input for a separate
receive antenna, . . .
I'm also underwhelmed by the TS-590 but the TS-590 does have a clearly
labeled rx ant on the rear panel.
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Barry wrote:
Anyway, I'm currently using the default settings where each AF knob is
independent. In my previous radios, it's always been a Balance knob, so
I'm thinking of changing it to that. Any comments, pro or con?
Yes, by all means, switch to Balance action.
73, Barry N1EU
Looks like the TT Eagle has some real tough competition in the TS-590.
Personally, I think TT's goal with the Eagle is to field test the bones of
their new hf architecture that we will see down the road in a full-featured
dual rx Orion III or whatever they will call it.
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? If there's a single offending station, using the shift control with a
2.8Khz-8pole filter will be just as effective as with a 1.8Khz-8pole filter
in minimizing the interference since the slopes are similarly steep.
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And some videos revealing the lower grade second RX in diversity
The video didn't show a lower grade second rx - it just showed that there
was a phase difference between the two receivers.
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Not here. I've consistently measured (with SpectraPLUS) 4Khz audio bandwith
on my K3 in AM with 6Khz filter and width control indicating 5Khz. I've
always had 4Khz wide rx audio in AM - am I the only one?
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Not here. I've consistently measured (with SpectraPLUS) 4Khz audio
bandwidth on my K3 in AM with 6Khz filter and width control indicating
5Khz. I've always had 4Khz wide rx audio in AM - am I the only one?
I should have mentioned that this is in normal AM mode
Tony Morgan wrote:
Got one.
The FT5K is back in the box and the K3 is on the desk.
Please elaborate.
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Sometimes my ssb width varies like 2.75, 2.65, 2.55 etc and sometime
it varies like 2.80, 2.70, 2.60 etc
What controls the least sig digit as 5 or 0
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toward maximizing
dynamic range with AGC off. On the other hand, the CM500 seems quite good
indeed for normal operation with AGC on and the microphone gets great audio
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Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
Very interesting...
So that´s means . . .
Yes, the long and short of it is that it benefits both a running and SP
contester to use a K3. Further discussion probably best takes place on the
CQ-Contest reflector where Randy posted.
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Actually, I think Paul was just joking ;-)
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Philippe Trottet wrote:
Where is the Ham spirit, even if we are not able today to do our own
equipment as during the past.
Modern Hams became lazzy because technology give us everything on a
plate without any efforts !
pd0psb
output from them? Why
would you folks sell a headset that does not complement the K3? I am
really disappointed.
I routinely use a 200-ohm Pro Set for ssb plugged into the headphone jack
and it works like a charm.
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/recording sessions and ended up buying Sennheiser HD-280 phones, which
work well. A bit more isolation could be had with in-ear phones or perhaps
active isolation phones but the HD-280's are a significant step beyond the
Pro Set.
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ATT on, PRE off, reduced RF Gain),
wouldn't AGC Threshold be effectively raised?
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at
lower rf levels (thus all the talk of gain throttling).
73,
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Guy, K2AV wrote:
This is true, but seems to be a VERY hard point to get across. Running
excess gain in RF/IF strip is at the root of some number of
complaints.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Barry N1EU barry.n
audio
level of stronger signals.
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Barry N1EU wrote:
If you simply raise AGC Threshold, you will have to lower AF Gain or risk
overly loud audio from stronger signals.
I just realized that the above wording might have caused confusion. What I
meant by raising AGC Threshold was to change the firmware to accommodate
Barry N1EU wrote:
If you simply raise AGC Threshold, you will have to lower AF Gain or risk
overly loud audio from stronger signals.
I just realized that the above wording might have caused confusion. What I
meant by raising AGC Threshold was to change the firmware to accommodate
into a beautiful symphony of distinct signals of varying
levels. What has worked well for me is AGC off (although AGC on works fine
as well), high isolation headphones, and the gain throttling techniques
(most important) described by K3NA, W4ZV, myself, and others.
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You need to maximize your rf/af dynamic range - that is what is going to
turn that mush into a beautiful symphony of distinct signals of varying
levels. What has worked well for me is AGC off (although AGC on works
fine as well), high isolation headphones, and the gain
for
the K3 subrx.
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My experience jibes well with Jim's. Gain throttling is imperative to get
more than mediocre results using the K3: http://n1eu.com/K3/K3_agcgain.htm
73,
Barry N1EU
Jim Brown-10 wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:23:33 -0500, Brian Machesney wrote:
For the first time, I turned on the K3's ATT
European station after another after another that was closely adjacent to
s9++ US stations. Simply incredible performance from the K3 rx and great
testimony to the AGC-off school of operating.
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).
Perhaps the most overblown non-issue I can recall in the past year, debated
to death on the Acom reflector. Bottom line: NOS tubes are still readily
available for $150 on eBay. If I were buying a new amp today, I wouldn't
hesitate to go with 4cx800's.
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Can someone please confirm: it is possible to toggle the TX ESSB on/off
value via macro (mn096;swt11;mn255;) but it is impossible to set it to a
known value of on or off ?
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Yes, but you can't embed a conditional statement in a macro so being
able to read the current ESSB state doesn't help. So under the
constraints of macro coding, how to turn ESSB on/off independent of
current state of ESSB?
Tnx/73,
Barry N1EU
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Greg
Make sure the PTT-KEY config menu setting is OFF-OFF
73,
Barry N1EU
David Windisch wrote:
SN28XX, V3.68 firmware, re-loaded several times to no avail.
Other than rtm and reading the archives, I've not a clue why this is
happening.
I've followed the steps in the manual to no avail
Steve, a while back a compilation of kit building tips was posted on the K3
Wiki at http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Kit_Building
I think many of the tips are still quite good and relevant.
73,
Barry N1EU
KC2VNI wrote:
I thank you in advance for whatever suggestions you may
), but not the noisiness discussed
ad nauseum on the reflector. I am convinced that noisiness is due to
improper gain adjustment.
73,
Barry N1EU
Julian, G4ILO wrote:
But these artifacts, at least in my observation, are only present when a
signal is present. If they are there when only noise
I beg to differ with whatever input you've received John. A modern, powerful
windows pc is a great investment for ~$1K. It's not going to crash during a
contest, running any of the top Windows contest loggers and will give you
loads of enjoyment the other 95% of the time.
73,
Barry N1EU
that needs programming attention.
Hopefully, N1MM Logger will improve in these two areas of K3 control in the
near future.
73,
Barry N1EU
bob finger wrote:
Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a simplex spot both split
and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone know how I can defeat this so
Looking at the same PDF, I get 622,900 yen = $6800 plus 22,900yen/$250 per
8-pole filter.
73,
Barry N1EU
Tom Hammond-2 wrote:
Hector:
According to several currency calculators:
2,014,200 JPY = $21,983.0832 USD
Whew.
73,
Tom N0SS
At 09:38 01/05/2010, you wrote:
WOW
Vic, I think you might have missed my second post where I draw a
similar conclusion:
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2009-December/122275.html
73/HNY,
Barry N1EU
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote:
But is this any different from reducing the K3 DSP
.
73/HNY,
Barry N1EU
Julian, G4ILO wrote:
This is all very interesting, but I seem to recall a post a few days ago
by Lyle stating that the K3 RX EQ was applied by additional shaping of the
IF response, and there is no programmable filtering at AF in the K3. That
is the reason for the LPF
. The raw receive
selectivity is 250-300hz before applying APF. You'll hear N1EU with no
APF and then with APF. Then you'll hear GM UR 579 without and with APF.
Just one experiment, but APF seems like it could be a useful tool to have in
the dx'ing arsenal.
73/HNY,
Barry N1EU
Mike K2MK wrote
.
(the APF center frequency was adjusted to match the received signal)
73,
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Barry N1EU wrote:
Okay - hear a simulation of the effect of K3 APF for yourself:
http://n1eu.com/k3/rz0af_apf.wav
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on the cw tone. So the filtering was applied after the fact but is
completely analogous with an in-line audio filter in real-time. I edited
the recording to splice together pre and post APF audio to compare.
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and mono listening to a single
channel, you can get a good idea of the difference between diversity and
non-diversity reception on some weaker signals.
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David Y. wrote:
Where is everybody? 40 meters was mostly a wasteland yesterday, and again
this morning.
4S7NE, VU2BGS and VU2PHD were all workable between 7000-7005Khz at 0200Z
from the east coast Dave. No wasteland here.
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use LP-Bridge's disconnect option instead of closing
LP-Bridge?
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as easy to
use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
specific operating situations.
Give some attention to the very useful AF Limiter firmware and implement a
soft clipping algorithm.
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Why do you have AUX allocated to ANT2 instead of AUX BNC? Use AUX BNC and if
you need to route your loop to RX ANT in addition to AUX BNC, use an
external switch or splitter.
73,
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Stewart Baker wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:30:27 -0800 (PST), Bill W4ZV wrote:
Stewart Baker
I don't see the necessity to connect Main ant to subrx with a different ant
on mainrx. Just use the Main ant on mainrx. You're over-thinking the
flexibility issue IMHO.
73,
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Stewart Baker wrote:
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:18:57 -0800 (PST), Barry N1EU wrote:
Why do you have AUX
AF Limit
AGC hold
AGC DCY
AGC SLP
AGC THR
(meant to be display-only and not to change settings, to be used in
conjunction with LP-Bridge so that the CAT port can be shared with other
applications)
73,
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wayne burdick wrote:
We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application
be configurable so you'd
display just the set of parameters YOU want to see; i.e., leave off AGC if
you don't want to see it.
73,
Barry N1EU
proposed:
shift (numeric)
width (numeric)
power
compression
mic gain
sub preamp
sub antenna selection
sub shift
sub width
AF Limit
AGC hold
AGC DCY
number?
Is the selection logic the same for main and sub-receiver?
Is there some reason you don't want to put the main and subrx filters in
corresponding slots?
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WA9VEE wrote:
It seems to me the K3 receive could use more punch on 10M.
Yes, I've similarly found that overall rf/if gain seems a bit low on 10M.
I'd hope that this could be addressed with dsp gain rather than external
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Barry N1EU wrote:
I'd hope that this could be addressed with dsp gain rather than external
hardware.
The reason I said this is that I cranked up the FL GN setting in the config
menu to +8dB as a temporary measure during the 10M contest and this gave me
the extra gain I needed on 10M. So
of AGC THReshold in the config menu.
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Don Wilhelm-4 wrote:
Mike,
That could easily happen if you have the AGC on. That would be
especially true if you have the preamp on when it is not needed and are
running the RF Gain at its full setting. With a signal present, the AGC
is acting to keep the receiver gain
That result indicates you have too much RF/IF Gain. You need to apply the
remedies previously discussed.
73,
Barry N1EU
N1JM wrote:
It seems as I move the value of AGC SLP down the noise gets louder. Does
that sound right?
John N1JM
P.B. Christensen wrote:
Back down the value
envision using such an application in conjunction with LP-Bridge
along with other software such as logging software, panadapter, etc.
Again, this would be a display-only application, using up as little pc
monitor space as possible.
73,
Barry N1EU
info.
73,
Barry N1EU
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Mike n...@nf4l.com wrote:
The problem on a Windows box is sharing the comm port with another
application.
Barry N1EU wrote:
I envision using such an application in conjunction with LP-Bridge
along with other software such as logging
port.
It's easy.
Are there issues? There's one obscure issue that I know of that probably
won't impact anybody but me. LP-Bridge does not pass !BExx (dsp direct)
macros from N1MM Logger to the K3. That's the only issue I've encountered.
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Randy, K5ZD wrote:
What is the macro command to do the same function as pressing and holding
the NORM button?
SWH58;
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never had this issue - you were free to control split at the rig
and Logger tracked it.
Whether or not the K3 CAT API has been enhanced to make it easier to read
the split state, Logger isn't supporting it yet.
73,
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lies. Perhaps if
someone could lend a K3 to K3CT, he could fully support the K3 in N1MM
Logger. Unfortunately not all K3's own a K3 ;-)
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is the
latest and Reset RX freq to TX when QSO is logged (RUN Split) is
NOT working if you manually put the K3 into split mode, call cq, tune
off freq to pick up a caller and log the qso. VfoA will stay off freq
instead of being matched to vfoB as it should and as it works on other
radios.
73,
Barry N1EU
that the subreceiver is NOT identical to the main
receiver (most probably an inferior upconverted rx), which was a fundamental
flaw of the Ten-Tec Orion.
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Barry N1EU
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If anyone on the reflector is using the K3 with an SDR-IQ as
panadaptor and CW Skimmer software - please contact me directly if you
can share your configuration setup. Much appreciated.
Tnx/73,
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AD4C2009 wrote:
K3 has one of the best well modulated AM audios in the market,it compete
with any of the older AM gear.
What is K3's AM transmit audio bandwidth?
For AM receive, I get amazing AM receive audio using LP-Pan plus Winrad or
Power-SDR.
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Barry N1EU
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Can anyone suggest the proper way to remove the RIT/XIT knob?
Thanks/73,
Barry N1EU
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Thanks for all the correct responses - just needed to pull harder ;-)
73,
Barry N1EU
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:45 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF
m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:
I believe it's a push fit, I'd suggest pulling it :-)
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
to the first question is yes. You use split transmit
mode and then vfoB will control both the tx and subrx. N1MM Logger
supports this mode of operation (SO2V) in the K3 without too many
wrinkles.
73,
Barry N1EU
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YES!!
(this would fix many outstanding issues)
73,
Barry N1EU
Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
Now that the Mix capability is in place, how about the unified
Mix and Receive VFO control (e.g., like Yaesu) to make life
easier for logging software to support the SO2V operating
If you leave your fingers off the shift control, bass response will be the
same as it is now.
73,
Barry N1EU
ZL1NI wrote:
Will this be optional?
Personally I don't want it. I have impaired hearing and bass response
seriously degrades intelligibility for me.
Bryan, Zl1NI
wayne
The low end response of the stock K3 is limited by coupling capacitor
impedance in the audio stage.
73,
Barry N1EU
Lyle Johnson wrote:
What I would like to know is just what the ACTUAL response curves of
the K3 transmit and receive audio are (when all EQ settings are set to
'0
pd0psb wrote:
Great SSB receivers from the past I think stood out for:
-the most unnoticable AGC action (K3 status: almost all the way there)
If you really want great sounding ssb, turn off the AGC, turn on the AF
Limiter and throttle RF/AF gain.
73,
Barry N1EU
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