Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

Yes, I find this to be true as well.   I also suggest one tweak the TEXT DEC value to something other than AUTO.  In my experience a value of 3 or 4 works well. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 11/30/2017 3:45 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: I get "reasonable" results. What I find is that the faster the sender,

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

I get "reasonable" results. What I find is that the faster the sender, the better the decode. The ways I have found to improve decode are: Use CWT to exactly tune the signal. Use narrow bandwidth -- 250 Hz or less on the DSP filter Adjust the RF gain to minimize noise while still having

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

Thanks for posting the videos Dick K6KR and John KK9A. Fun to watch... this thread just keeps going but I'm glad to see some more rounded responses regarding contesting. I made a couple of videos running stations in the ARRL SS if you would like to see the perspective of a more involved

[Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

CT1BOH's video shows a clearer example of 2BSIQ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42TCOtmJuEI=58s There is some automation but it is mostly done with an incredible amount of skill. The top ops are not using code readers or skimmers have suggested. Sure the exchange is easy, I am not sure if anyone

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

Not a looser at all..   I'm quite happy to not play in the robot CW pool.  Most of the time these roboCW guys leave their rig off, except during the contest, so life is very good for the rest of us.  BTW sorry I didn't consult you before I posted my comments..   I'll try to do better in the

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

slower as well but > mostly was a lot faster. ZF2MJ was in the same mode as well. 73 > > - Original Message - > From: "Jim Brown" <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 11:00:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

You're the loser on that one, Fred. While there may be guys like that, the vast majority of contesters are not in that category.  All the great contesters I know (and I know a lot of them) can pick fly specs out of cow dung. 73, Jim K9YC On 11/28/2017 6:48 AM, Fred Moore wrote: I quit

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

On 11/28/2017 07:16, Jim Stahl via Elecraft wrote: A good CW contest op will adjust speed to the conditions. It’s a bit like tennis, with the point being to keep a rally going, not to demolish the other guy. One big difference between contesting and other competitive events is that the

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

ecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Moore >> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:09 PM >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder >> >> CW skimmer can copy

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder > > CW skimmer can copy almost anything. I will not play in their sand box... > > I think we need a good contest where each ham sends an actual RST he copes, > and a personally designed 3 al

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

m> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 11:00:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder > > On 11/27/2017 4:52 PM, Jim Cassidy wrote: >> Just when did the totally incorrect fact that the high speed contest >> opera

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

"In order to keep the robots from getting perfect copy on me either rag chewing or the very few contests I enter, I've stopped using a keyer and have reverted to sending with a bug. Not very many robots can copy even a good bug fist. " Is "bug sending" different from the Morse standard of 3:1

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

EI2CN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of EUGENE GABRY Sent: 27 November 2017 22:54 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder > On November 27, 2017 at 2:39 PM F

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

hour contest. I did hear him slower as well but mostly was a lot faster. ZF2MJ was in the same mode as well. 73 - Original Message - From: "Jim Brown" <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 11:00:20 PM Subject: Re: [Elec

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

On 11/27/2017 4:52 PM, Jim Cassidy wrote: Just when did the totally incorrect fact that the high speed contest operators are using CW decoders get started?? NO truth to that at all You're absolutely right, Jim. It's those beginning CW ops who don't know CW, or haven't developed their

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

mber 27, 2017 5:09 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder > > CW skimmer can copy almost anything. I will not play in their sand box... > > I think we need a good contest where each ham sends an actual RST he > copes, and a pe

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Moore Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:09 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder CW skimmer can copy almost anything. I will not play in their sand box... I think we need a good contest where

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

CW skimmer can copy almost anything.  I will not play in their sand box...  I think we need a good contest where each ham sends an actual RST he copes, and a personally designed 3 alpha numeric check sum.  The check sum get published when he/she turns in their log.  The logs get computer compared

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

happens in contest pile up calling. - Original Message - From: "Jim Sheldon" <w...@cox.net> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:04:34 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder In order to keep the robots from getting pe

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

RTC efforts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3ncFJZqkTA 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 22:42 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 22:42 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder Under the rules, in th

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

In order to keep the robots from getting perfect copy on me either rag chewing or the very few contests I enter, I've stopped using a keyer and have reverted to sending with a bug. Not very many robots can copy even a good bug fist. I'm of the opinion that robot copying and power over 500

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

> On November 27, 2017 at 2:39 PM Fred Moore wrote: > > CW contests have > become a machine contest not a Ham contest... > This is something I fight personally when I decide to enter a CW contest. Technology is great, it has allowed those who are either not proficient at CW or

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

I was totally S My logging program gives me 6.6 hours of operation with 119 QSOs, so that's about 18 QSOs/hour. I had plenty of time to copy the exchange given the number of times I needed to hear the call to be sure I had copied it correctly. This was particularly true for those stations that

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

> On November 27, 2017 at 12:44 PM Jim Brown wrote: > > And another FWIW -- putting a lot of hours into a CW contest will > improve your code speed significantly! > > 73, Jim K9YC Totally agree with this statement. I don't do much CW rag chew now as I used to. So

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

ent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 22:42 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder > > Under the rules, in the assisted categories, using decoders is legal. It is > also legal, but perhaps unwise, to use the spotting network to "read&quo

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

Most CW contesting takes place at 25-30 WPM. 20 WPM is QRS. A few speed merchants bang away at 35 WPM or above. I worked most of CQWW CW this weekend QRP with good antennas. I was able to get through pileups by sending my call at 30-32 WPM often fitting it in between others sending theirs. A

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

craft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 6:50 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder Kevin et al; I agree, in fact I'd suppose as the CW speed the number of

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

I've had good to moderate success using the CW decoder.   I find several things to being the key to good results.    First, usually the ATTN is required on lower frequency bands, 160M - 40M, along with correct adjustment of the RF Gain.   Here you want to see that only CW elements flash the

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

To me, the Elecraft radio have the best decoder ever seen in a radio and i tried a lot of different last models. ciao, Graziano IW2NOY > Il 27 novembre 2017 alle 12.46 John Stengrevics ha > scritto: > > > I too have never been able to get the CW decoder to work

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 22:42 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder Under the rules

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

I too have never been able to get the CW decoder to work well. It only works if signals are super strong - precisely when I don’t need it. Anybody have any suggestions? John WA1EAZ > On Nov 26, 2017, at 9:28 PM, K9MA wrote: > > Perhaps my K3 has a problem, but I've

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

Under the rules, in the assisted categories, using decoders is legal. It is also legal, but perhaps unwise, to use the spotting network to "read" the call signs. Wiser is to verify a spotted call sign, which is a lot easier than to copy it cold. In the unassisted categories, all these

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

I have found that backing off the RF gain a bit help the decoding of cw. I personally don't depend on the rig decoding but listening this weekend let me know that either the big boys are using something to decode station callsigns and are definite using an automated system to send their

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

> > Perhaps my K3 has a problem, but I've never been able to get the CW > decoder to work very well. Never had a ton of luck with it either on my K3S. Perhaps it is operator error on my par if others can make it go. 73 de AI6KG On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 6:28 PM, K9MA

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

For me... I can copy just fine (can always be better...) but it's getting it to the keyboard that is the problem. Have to hear it, then copy that to the keyboard and that takes the most time... 73, Gary KA1J AKA Fumblefingers > Kevin et al; > > I agree, in fact I'd suppose as the CW speed

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

Kevin et al; I agree, in fact I'd suppose as the CW speed the number of competent operators decreases proportionally.    Now I'm not saying "contest at 5 WPM" but certainly there are more that can copy 15 WPM than 50 WPM.   Just sayin'..so for us slow folks and old folks...QRS.

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

I agree. I can do 30 wpm without getting uncomfortable but I have experienced the "slowing down gets more contacts" phenomenon. Once in field day with a bunch of CW hands who can all copy and send above 40+ wpm. The one rule they had for field day was nobody sent faster that 22-25 wpm. They

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

Perhaps my K3 has a problem, but I've never been able to get the CW decoder to work very well.  (Nor the digital modes.)  Fortunately, I've been copying CW the old-fashioned way for some 50 years, and the K3 otherwise works just fine. 73, Scott K9MA On 11/26/2017 19:32, Bill Frantz wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

In previous years, I used the K3's decoder and it worked very well. But, for this contest, I bit the bullet and said, "I'm going to decode the calls myself to improve my CW." I had a lot of fun doing so, although I had to skip several stations that were sending above 30 WPM. A small

[Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

Wonderful. I was doing the CQ WW CW contest and a lot of the contest I worked with a software to help decode the stations. In the last hours of the contest I decided to configure the decoder of my Elecraft K3s and started to decode the stations better than with any of the software that is in the