Re: [Elecraft] Is the K3 have low sensitivity on 10 M and 6 M

2016-10-14 Thread n9tf
I have always done the same thing with signals at the noise floor, or below. The biggest change I've noticed by doing this is the band noise is much more attenuated through the headphones lying on the table and the signal one is trying to copy jumps out in the clear since band noise is attenuate

Re: [Elecraft] Is the K3 have low sensitivity on 10 M and 6 M

2016-10-14 Thread Fred Jensen
Interesting point ... Right after getting the new synth for my K3, I was copying a number of WSPR stations on 630 meters. I even got up in the middle of the night to see if I could hear them [I couldn't] as the computer copied them at - 10 to -15 dB SNR. At first consideration, I don't see wh

Re: [Elecraft] Is the K3 have low sensitivity on 10 M and 6 M

2016-10-14 Thread brian
This test may be a bit out of date. With digital modes decoding signals ~10 db below the noise these days, one may need at least two S-units of noise. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 10/14/2016 0:04 AM, Fred Jensen wrote: Re #3: I never have either. While a thorough analysis of "To Preamp or Not to Pre

Re: [Elecraft] Is the K3 have low sensitivity on 10 M and 6 M

2016-10-13 Thread Fred Jensen
Re #3: I never have either. While a thorough analysis of "To Preamp or Not to Preamp" is complex and very situational, the antenna check is really a very good indicator: Remove the antenna and note the noise produced by the K3. Connect the antenna. If the noise rises, adding a preamp at the

Re: [Elecraft] Is the K3 have low sensitivity on 10 M and 6 M

2016-10-13 Thread Bill W4ZV
1. Is your PREamp turned on for 10m? Hopefully you don't accidentally have RX ANT activated. 2. Please describe your antenna in more detail, including orientation. 3. I've never needed a preamp on 10m in the 8 years I've had a K3, but my antenna system has a lot of gain. 73, Bill W4ZV -

Re: [Elecraft] Is the K3 have low sensitivity on 10 M and 6 M

2016-10-13 Thread Edward R Cole
How old is the K3? I bought the PR6-10 from a ham who was upgrading to the KXV3B. It made my K3 (SN 4340) circa 2010 much better on 10m and 6m. I even copied some 6m-eme* signals with the PR6-10 using my 6-element yagi in August of 2015. I now have a 6m GasFet preamp at tower top and it is

Re: [Elecraft] Is the K3 have low sensitivity on 10 M and 6 M

2016-10-13 Thread Jim Brown
I think Bill's right, but if your QTH is reasonably quiet, you DO need a preamp on 12, 10, and 6M for the original K3. The outboard preamp for the K3 solved that problem, but the new preamp that's part of the KXV3B module does it even better. I've upgraded my K3s to the new KXV3B, and am very h

Re: [Elecraft] Is the K3 have low sensitivity on 10 M and 6 M

2016-10-12 Thread Bill Frantz
If you are hearing static, then you have enough sensitivity. It sounds like the problem may be a very local source of noise which is drowning out the signals at your QTH, while your friend is far enough away from that source to not be bothered by it. Try using a portable radio to search for the

Re: [Elecraft] Is the K3 have low sensitivity on 10 M and 6 M

2016-10-12 Thread Wayne Burdick
Gerald, The K3's original preamp provides an MDS of about -135 to -136 dBm on 10 and 6 meters. This should suffice unless you have an extremely low noise floor. If you do, then you can install the KXV3B option, which has a second preamp that has a much better MDS -- around -144 to -145 dBm. T

[Elecraft] Is the K3 have low sensitivity on 10 M and 6 M

2016-10-12 Thread KC6CNN
I am curious why a fellow ham and I who both live within two blocks of each other and have the same wire antenna, Except mine is a little higher. I have the K3 and he has a Kenwood and Yaesu and he is working people on 10 meters while I can only hear static. The same goes for 6 meters. I think I ha