Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-27 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
I should quit now, but I just realized that a bad review is a good thing in one respect, it shows that if you get a bad radio, you're not alone. There's probably TWO out there. :) Honestly, I doubt all the radios are working at the time they're received, but if you listen to some of the goings on

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-27 Thread Dave Andrus
What also doesn't get much weight, at least for me, are the bad eHam reviews that are themselves "bad." They often show the reviewer has poor command of such things as, say, the english language, his keyboard (love those "all caps" reviews!), his emotions, etc. Far too many of these: "It

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-26 Thread Joseph M. Durnal
When it comes to reviews, I tend to focus on the bad ones as the good ones could simply represent someones feeling that they spent plenty of money on something, it must be good. When it comes to ham gear, a bad review without a call sign doesn't get much weight. I suppose the reviewer in this cas

R: R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-25 Thread paolo.gramigna
Quote-- You have a LOT of company Paolo! Unquote-- I'm glad I'm not alone. I say, for casual ragchewing nothing beats my old and trusty Drake C-line. But for the purpose of adding a rare, new one when I have just half an hour before h

RE: R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
M To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: R: R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM Quote-- Not that I know what a Drake S line is but strange you could work VP6DX with it. From reading this list I have got the impression that to work VP6DX you indeed need a Elecraft K3 radio.

R: R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-25 Thread Paolo Gramigna
Quote-- Not that I know what a Drake S line is but strange you could work VP6DX with it. From reading this list I have got the impression that to work VP6DX you indeed need a Elecraft K3 radio. --- Pardon me for the typo. It was, quite obviously, a Drake

Re: R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-25 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
It doesn't matter how good or expensive the product is, every high-tech solution can break. My neighbour's Mercedes SLK 500 broke down after 3 days and had to be shipped off the Isle of Man to England to be repaired. My mother's Metro 1000 City (1989) has never had a problem despite being 18 ye

Re: R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Not that I know what a Drake S line is but strange you could work VP6DX with it. From reading this list I have got the impression that to work VP6DX you indeed need a Elecraft K3 radio. Jim SM2EKM - paolo.gramigna wrote: A

R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread paolo.gramigna
>Anyone who has spent anytime at all listening to the VP6DX operaton >knows that "solardx"'s eham review is either bogus or he happened to >get a bad radio. I suspect he is an ICOM "operative". > To me, it sounds like an Icom retailer with a LARGE stock. E-ham should not accept anonymous re

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Matt Zilmer
I was wondering when someone would bring that possibility up... It happens all the time. matt, W6NIA On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:19:32 +, you wrote: >Anyone who has spent anytime at all listening to the VP6DX operaton >knows that "solardx"'s eham review is either bogus or he happened >to get a b

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread w6jd
Anyone who has spent anytime at all listening to the VP6DX operaton knows that "solardx"'s eham review is either bogus or he happened to get a bad radio. I suspect he is an ICOM "operative". Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: Tom AK2B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > There a

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Tom AK2B
There are over 475 K3's sold and only 30 reviews on eHam. If this one bad review bothers you, write your own! Tom, AK2B -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Latest-K3-Review-on-EHAM-tp15661902p15671173.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread DW Holtman
- Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM Funny isn't it. I suggest that we should not put down people who don't like what we do and I become attacked myself by many Emails. -- View this messag

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Alexander Ponomarenko
"The speech processor, mic gain and ALC circuits need some design attention. The transmitter in the K3 is very poor. The RF speech processor produces a lot of IMD on the signal. It's a raspy and nasty kind of product that bleeds from the transmit signal. What I was hearing was not pleasant. The

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread AD6XY - Mike
Funny isn't it. I suggest that we should not put down people who don't like what we do and I become attacked myself by many Emails. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Latest-K3-Review-on-EHAM-tp15661902p15669831.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.co

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 2/24/08 1:40:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Someone posts an honest review of > their experience and loads of people attack them for criticising their baby > by not giving it full marks? No. The criticism is that someone is posting an anonymous revi

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Toby Deinhardt
. I will pay postage - okay?? Please don't change your mind now, everyone has seen your post, you must take it. de wb8yqj... ;-) [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM Hisashi T Fujinaka htodd at twofifty.com Sun Feb 24 13:26:25 EST 2008 Previous message: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Tom Hammond
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Bill NY9H
as far as "audio crunch" I agree the current iteration is not as penetrating as a good RF clipper could give it albeit it IS distortion but deem favorable by many. KEY WORK : CURRENT. Hard to believe that solardx contributes to Eham , yet is not on the reflector. Perhaps by anot

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Bruce Bowman
I have no doubt that Elecraft will make-right anything that is wrong with hardware they delivered whether to Solardx or any other owner. The important point, assuming the failure info is right, is that either a unit got thru final test that shouldn't have, or a unit failed in transit. Yeah, he/

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread W6NEK
IL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM My goodness - this is absolutely terrible. Someone posts an honest review of their experience and loads of people attack them for criticising their baby by not giving it full

[Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Don Rasmussen
anonymous poster. Your address please. I will pay postage - okay?? Please don't change your mind now, everyone has seen your post, you must take it. de wb8yqj... ;-) [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM Hisashi T Fujinaka htodd at twofifty.com Sun Feb 24 13:26:25 EST 2008 Previous me

RE: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Greg
g over the standoff will avoid any problem even if the enamal is worn. 73 Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of S Sacco Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:23 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread AD6XY - Mike
My goodness - this is absolutely terrible. Someone posts an honest review of their experience and loads of people attack them for criticising their baby by not giving it full marks? I really expected more of the Elecraft community. Perhaps the transmitter is faulty - it is entirely possible the P

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/24/08 8:57:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reviewer (Solardx) gives the results of a test he ran on his K3. "Solardx" is completely anonymous - no call, no name, no K3 serial number. Yet his rating

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 2/24/08 8:57:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The reviewer (Solardx) gives the results of a test he ran on his K3. With all due respect We don't know if the reviewer has a problem K3 or a problem test setup. For that matter, we don't know if the

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread S Sacco
The problem with eHam reviews is not the reviews themselves, but that folks get too caught up in caring about other people's mostly subject impressions/opinions. Remember: Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but that doesn't mean that everyone's opinion should be given equal weight. Now, back to a

RE: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Gary Hvizdak
At 08:56:21 EST on Sun 24 Feb 2008 Paul Ferguson (K5ESW) wrote ... ... Surely there are others out there with a K3 and the equipment necessary to repeat his tests. The outcome of the tests will determine if Solardx's results are typical. I await the results while I wait for my K3 (wave 3). -

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Bill W4ZV
Gary Scott-4 wrote: > > Eham reviews are a great idea ,But the problem is folks are posting > reviews > that either just got the product ,and as I have seen in one product a few > months ago did not even own the product they were commenting on.I think > the > reviews would be worth alot more

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Paul Ferguson
The reviewer (Solardx) gives the results of a test he ran on his K3. Surely there are others out there with a K3 and the equipment necessary to repeat his tests. The outcome of the tests will determine if Solardx's results are typical. I await the results while I wait for my K3 (wave 3). 73,

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Gary Scott
Eham reviews are a great idea ,But the problem is folks are posting reviews that either just got the product ,and as I have seen in one product a few months ago did not even own the product they were commenting on.I think the reviews would be worth alot more on Eham if people actually waiting 6

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Bill W4ZV
Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote: > > I think he's getting RF into his installation, maybe through the power > cabling? I wonder whether his is driving an after-burner? > > I do not suspect a malicious posting - even with the best will in the > world > things can go wrong. > > My first thought

[Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Group, When I read the reviews in eham, I deliberately look at all those with poor remarks and low scores. Through the adverse comments, I try to figure out whether there are something which I consider further. It is not necessary that all the bad remarks are valid but they give us chances

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread David Cutter
For a new rig to be so bad, he will presumably want it repaired. My first thought would be to email Elecraft not Eham. David G3UNA The reviewer (Solardx, no call sign) gives a very bad transmitter (SSB) review. He claims lots of splatter and ineffective speech processing as well as high IM

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Jerry Keller (K3BZ)
Or perhaps "Where there's smoke, there's fire" ?? 73, Jerry K3BZ - Original Message - From: "Brett Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'paolo.gramigna'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 4:15 AM Subjec

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Toby Deinhardt
Hi Bob, > I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has noticed such problems? A small yes and a big no. Several BCC members (DD5FZ, DL6RAI, DK4YJ, DG7RO usw.) feel that the speech processor is not as "effective" as it could be and that for contesting the modulation is too "nice" and needs more

[Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Mike Penkas
It appears the 4 mediocre reports SOLARDX has posted seem to have one thing in common. Mike WA8EBM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscr

RE: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Brett Howard
I believe the closest English proverb would be "Trust but verify". -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of paolo.gramigna Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Revi

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
I think he's getting RF into his installation, maybe through the power cabling? I wonder whether his is driving an after-burner? I do not suspect a malicious posting - even with the best will in the world things can go wrong. Simon Brown, HB9DRV --

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Ian J Maude
Bob DeHaney wrote: The reviewer (Solardx, no call sign) gives a very bad transmitter (SSB) review. He claims lots of splatter and ineffective speech processing as well as high IMD products. I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has noticed such problems? I am always suspicious of anonymous

R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread paolo.gramigna
Hi all, We have a proverb in Italy: To suspect of someone is a sin, but usually there is substance in it. (I'll be glad to hear the corresponding English proverb, if existing). By sheer chance, that review will ruin the "5 over 5" record previously held by K3. By sheer chance, the reviewer does

RE: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Gary Hvizdak
At 03:29:43 EST on Sun 24 Feb 2008 Bob DeHaney (WU5T/DJ0MBC) wrote ... The reviewer (Solardx, no call sign) gives a very bad transmitter (SSB) review. He claims lots of splatter and ineffective speech processing as well as high IMD products. I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has noticed

[Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Bob DeHaney
The reviewer (Solardx, no call sign) gives a very bad transmitter (SSB) review. He claims lots of splatter and ineffective speech processing as well as high IMD products. I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has noticed such problems? Vy 73, Bob WU5T/DJ0MBC No virus found in this outgoing