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Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 4:18 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 in production
On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
> The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved
nd pricing
and demand. If you sell a billion cell phones a year, guess who gets
first pick?
Sorry to bust everyone's bubble, but ham radio is really not that
important, in the great industry wheel of things.
73,
-- Dave, N8SBE
Original Message
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 in
I'm sure that it varies by location and industry. I have spoken to several
businesses who report they are behind due to supply chain interruptions and
delays.
I see that I need to change my habits for this mailer...I have a habit of
hitting reply, and twice now I have sent private messages
Great post, Gary.
73, Jim K9YC
On 7/16/2020 8:36 PM, Gary Smith wrote:
I'm always bemused when a completely
unexpected series of profoundly affecting
variables, none of which are from internal
causes, make themselves a factor in
development and construction, appear and
globally interfere with
I'm always bemused when a completely
unexpected series of profoundly affecting
variables, none of which are from internal
causes, make themselves a factor in
development and construction, appear and
globally interfere with design,
production, and supply. This fluid state
appears while a
On 7/16/2020 3:14 PM, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote:
Check your math. World population is about 8 Billion. Give everyone a Covid
distance of two meters, or four square meters per person. That gives us 32
billion square meters to socially distance the world population. California is
On 7/16/2020 3:07 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
Things may be different in California but here in North Carolina I do not
know of any manufacture or supplier that closed.
The impact of COVID has varied widely with geography and how each region
(even a locality) relates to others. It also varies a
Yeah. I’m hoping they’ll start building and shipping K4s soon.
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...nr4c. bill
> On Jul 16, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Dick Dickinson wrote:
>
> nr4c's use of the present tense indicates he is an optimist.
>
>
> As ever,
> Dick - KA5KKT
>
>
nr4c's use of the present tense indicates he is an optimist.
As ever,
Dick - KA5KKT
In this case it's a deposit. They are using the money.
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...nr4c. bill
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Elecraft
In this case it’s a deposit. They are using the money.
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...nr4c. bill
> On Jul 16, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Paul Van Dyke wrote:
>
> IF and IF I remember correctly, they (Elecraft) takes not a penny from you
> till it is shipped. I know the money is waiting for them as I wait
Yes, I too have a math degree and the mean population density of
California is ~98/sq km and yes, all the people in CA could stand well
more than 1 m apart and no one would need scuba tanks or find themselves
in Nevada [or Oregon or Arizona or Baja California]. I made it up ...
it was
My card was charged 6/3/2019.
There's always the chance that Elecraft goes under and I don't see any
of it back. I'm just patiently waiting for the the radio.
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Tox wrote:
No, they were up front that they were trying to fund the production run.
Credit cards were hit last
: [Elecraft] K4 in production
If that's the way you feel, why don't you ask for your money back?
Ted, W2ZK
On 7/16/2020 13:55, Tox wrote:
> Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts
> would already have already been in transit before primary covid
> impacts were in
Six weeks ago, my 100 years old Grandmother’s dryer broke down. My bride and I
went to Lowes to see what we could find that would be simple to operate, and
did the same at the local Home Depot. Grandmother is about 1230 miles from us.
One thing we noticed that was common to all the models in
Not waiting on a K4, got my KX2 and perfectly happy. Also, off topic and not
intended to besmirch anyone, but being a math geek in a math geeky hobby . . .
“The population density in California is high ... high enough that if everyone
stood 1 meter from everyone else, some would be standing in
Things may be different in California but here in North Carolina I do not
know of any manufacture or supplier that closed.
John KK9A - W4AAA
Don Wilhelm wrote:
All,
The parts may have come in pre-covid, BUT
Elecraft boards are populated at board shops in California, and the
metal parts come
Hey folks, stay calm!
Long long before Corvid-19, for example, the delivery time for simple block capacitors
(100 nF) was 12 weeks or more. I suspect that the Elecraft team will start the
pick-and-place machines as soon as possible when everything arrives. So stay calm!
73/72 de Ingo, DK3RED
If you're primarily in interest-bearing accounts rather than other
investments, all too true.
Opportunity cost varies wildly.
Scott
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:35 PM Jim Brown wrote:
> On 7/16/2020 11:05 AM, Carl Yaffey wrote:
> > What? We’re not getting interest?
>
> :)
>
> A look at the
All,
The parts may have come in pre-covid, BUT
Elecraft boards are populated at board shops in California, and the
metal parts come out of another shop in California.
So while Elecraft may be limping along, they are dependent on a variety
of other California shops which may be shuttered.
On 7/16/2020 11:05 AM, Carl Yaffey wrote:
What? We’re not getting interest?
:)
A look at the latest statement from wherever we store our money will
tell us that the current interest rate is quite close to zero percent.
73, Jim K9YC
On 7/16/2020 10:20 AM, Tox wrote:
The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved pre-covid.
To varying degrees, the whole world is affected by COVID, including
manufacturers and distributors of parts. Few are designated as essential.
73, Jim K9YC
No, they were up front that they were trying to fund the production run.
Credit cards were hit last year.
Scott
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:28 PM Paul Van Dyke
wrote:
> IF and IF I remember correctly, they (Elecraft) takes not a penny from you
> till it is shipped. I know the money is waiting
IF and IF I remember correctly, they (Elecraft) takes not a penny from you
till it is shipped. I know the money is waiting for them as I wait for the
K4.
I'm still happy, wishing I could I could have taken it on the dxpedition,
but it didn't happen either due to Covid-19.
I have a great K3S
I did!
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...nr4c. bill
> On Jul 16, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
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> You should probably buy an Icom!
>
> 73, and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z)
> https://www.nk7z.net
> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
> ARRL Technical Specialist
> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical
No! I wouldn’t turn down free shipping and/or no price increase for those
waiting.
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...nr4c. bill
> On Jul 16, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Carl Yaffey wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
>> (surprise), I feel deceived about
"The plan" was to get a tilt tower, so I don't have to climb and that
works great.
I also pre-paid for the KPA1500 and then once it arrived had to wait (2
years) for the shack to be built (else no 240V). I don't regret this
because Elecraft HAS the reputation for being the best at product
Climb safely.
Thankfully, I've never had a chance to hazard that much money -- though I
did just get a backordered SharkRF OpenSpot3. :)
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 3:05 PM WILLIE BABER wrote:
> If I had the money to put up in advance I would "front" the money to
> Elecraft, based on the K3. And
If I had the money to put up in advance I would "front" the money to Elecraft,
based on the K3. And I did purchased kpa1500 in advance.
I purchased Orion before it was produced based on most of the previous Tentec
radio too.
But I confess that while I do turn 70 years old in September, I am in
If that's the way you feel, why don't you ask for your money back?
Ted, W2ZK
On 7/16/2020 13:55, Tox wrote:
Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
place. OK, that was missed.
I
Given the on/off, cancel/restart mother may I, only with a mask
situation in CA (often spelled P_O_L_I_T_I_C_S), it's a wonder they're
doing as much as they have. That tap dance is on a very thin high wire
with no net.
Now consider that many parts do not come from the US, some of the
nonetheless, I think we are all hoping for the best with covid (and doing
what we can to be safe) and vis-a-vis Elecraft.
If anyone thinks that Elecraft is trying to do anything other than their love
of art, and make a living doing it, then whomever thinks that hasn't been
paying attention
From where I sit on the Right Coast, I'd be reluctant to front ANYONE that
amount of cash, reputation notwithstanding. Heck, George Z at Packtenna
couldn't until recently even get the antenna wire from Wireman. Stuff
happens. Supply chains bend and break.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:05 PM Carl
You should probably buy an Icom!
73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
On 7/16/20 10:55 AM, Tox wrote:
Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
>
> Hence my frustration. I not only am impatient about getting the Shiny
> (surprise), I feel deceived about how it has been handled by someone
> sitting on thousands of dollars of my cash.
>
> Scott
>
What? We’re not getting interest?
73 K8NU
Given lead times, if the Dec/Jan ship date was not BS, then parts would
already have already been in transit before primary covid impacts were in
place. OK, that was missed.
I understand these are not normal times. And I live in Santa Clara County,
understand current density and watch county #s
Say again? The virus began in Asia [Wuhan China to be exact] at the
very end of 2019. Many of the parts that Elecraft and every other
manufacturer uses are sourced out of Asia. Everyones' supply chains are
disrupted now but slowly improving.
Elecraft is based in California. The population
I imagine that there is no one who wants the K4 out the door more than
Elecraft does. It makes no sense to think that they are intentionally
dragging their feet.
73, Ted, W2ZK (eagerly awaiting the delivery of my K4 too)
On 7/16/2020 13:33, Dave Cole wrote:
Lets see, solved pre COVID, then
November Delivery, pushed to Dec/Jan was no surprise.
Dec/Jan delivery unlikely to have been a casualty of COVID.
Scott
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 10:33 AM Dave Cole wrote:
> Lets see, solved pre COVID, then COVID arrives, and messes up all
> existing scheduling... No surprise here...
>
> I
Lets see, solved pre COVID, then COVID arrives, and messes up all
existing scheduling... No surprise here...
I doubt Elecraft has initiated a "string-along" process... All good
things take time... In the middle of all this COVID crap, I am
surprised Elecraft can do repair and return...
The parts availability issue was supposed to have been resolved pre-covid.
Wondering what the facts are.
(not griefing you, just frustrated by Nov,Dec/Jan,Mar/Apr,Jul/Aug
string-along)
Scott
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 7:40 AM Joe DeVincentis wrote:
> Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast
Eric did a Zoom meeting with the East Coast Ham Operators (ECHO) group on 7/14
(Tuesday).
It was nice to see and hear some of the history of Elecraft.
The question of K4 production was asked. He was very forthright. They have
adjusted their manufacturing process for employee safety. Good to
What I want to see on this list is when the K4 goes into production.
Everything else is immaterial. That is what I am looking for. The Eureka
announcement.
I can not tell you how many things, parts, drugs, cars, boats,planes,
lumber,steel, food, travel are impacted by the pandemic that this is
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