Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-06-04 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Lets close this thread now in the interest of relieving list reader overload. Eric Moderator etc. elecraft.com --- Sent from my iPhone 6S > On Jun 4, 2017, at 4:35 AM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > > Not at all. Slightly large than a K3 perhaps. And requiring several separated > LCD

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-06-04 Thread Drew AF2Z
Not at all. Slightly large than a K3 perhaps. And requiring several separated LCD panels instead of the "one big display" design. 73, Drew AF2Z On 06/01/17 10:39, Nr4c wrote: And the front panel would be the size of a 40 inch TV. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill On May 31, 2017, at

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-06-01 Thread Nr4c
And the front panel would be the size of a 40 inch TV. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On May 31, 2017, at 10:13 PM, Drew AF2Z wrote: > > I would like to have a front panel that is designed according to these two > rules: > > 1. Use physical controls only: buttons,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-31 Thread Drew AF2Z
I would like to have a front panel that is designed according to these two rules: 1. Use physical controls only: buttons, knobs, switches. (Not a "smudge screen".) 2. The state of every control should be obvious by its position, rotation, dial, or adjacent LEDs; or, the control should be

Re: [Elecraft] K3 display is dated.

2017-05-31 Thread Jim Brown
My sentiments exactly. Everything I need to see and all the controls I need for day to day operation is on the K3/K3S front panel and easy to find/use. This concern with appearances strongly reminds me of consumer audio and video products, which have small white lettering on a black chassis

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-31 Thread Fred Jensen
I am colorblind... as in monochrome. The color waterfall on the P3 is barely usable for me. The monochrome option is perfect. I've used an IC-7600 and a PRO3 on county expeditions for the Cal QSOwhich [apparently] are quite colorful. It's a real strain for me. K3 is just fine the way it is.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-31 Thread Erik Basilier
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:22 PM To: Nr4c <n...@widomaker.com> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated... Looks like there is a winner somewhere. The Image is changing. Look at the d

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-31 Thread Bob
Looks like there is a winner somewhere. The Image is changing. Look at the display in the KPA1500. A preview of something to match? 73, Bob K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR On 5/31/2017 12:03 AM, Nr4c wrote: I'm not sure why users get so involved in a discussion on topics like this. The

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-31 Thread Erik Basilier
ble color selections. 73, Erik K7TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Cook Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:10 PM To: lromer...@tampabay.rr.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated. . .

2017-05-30 Thread George Thornton
I agree with this assessment. I like the Elecraft solution. The K3 screen gives you clearly and simply what you need to know at a glance. No fuss and always there for you. You want a screen with a lot of other information including a band scope, put it in a separate box. That leaves you

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Nr4c
I'm not sure why users get so involved in a discussion on topics like this. The amber LCD display is part of the Elecraft image. They use it on the K3, KX2, KX3 and K3S. It's not going to change so pick another battle! One you can win. Or, wait for the K4 in a couple years and it will likely

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Matthew Cook
Good to see this functionality being added to N1MM, with luck some of the SDR developers will pick this up and it can be implemented externally to the K-line. To be honest for situational awareness during a contest having a 24" monitor with 2.5M or more pixels (or larger) above the desk fed with

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Luis V. Romero
I completely agree with Ken K6MR! I rarely, if ever, touch the radio. I sometimes twirl the main VFO knobs, but frankly, out of habit. 90% of my interface is via the computer keyboard (N1MMLogger +. Oh, yes, I'm one of those "Durn Contesters!"). But there are very interesting things on the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread brian
Don, Agree. However, there is a need to update the "displays" for functions that were shoe horned into the K3 well after the display was cast in concrete. Things like a flashing decimal point. What the heck does that mean? There are about a dozen such "non-intuitive" displays which could

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Kent, While that is a good feature for autos, it does take some time and trouble to set up as the user desires. I did recently purchase an upper-end car and after over a month I have not done too much display customization. The simple things are the most important to me. Other stuff is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Kevin - K4VD
Keep it simple? Like a crystal radio? On my KX3 I want a full heads-up display. It should have virtual reality goggles tied to Google Earth so I can fly to your neighborhood, check out your antenna farm and make recommendations for improvements. I want to visualize the path my radio waves take to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Ken K6MR
an interface that let you move the controls around on the screen. Pretty much build any front panel layout you wanted. Ken K6MR From: K9ZTV<mailto:k9...@socket.net> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 5:25 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
I have to agree, "the kiss principle" Keep is simple stupid - works every time. While 'glitsy' displays are pretty to watch, they often do not convey relevant information, or that information is buried in the 'glitz' and not easily recognized at a glance. The K3, KX3, KX2 displays show the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread K9ZTV
One compromise, undoubtedly costly, would be a customisable display like upper-end cars are now wearing. Users could place whatever indicators they wanted, wherever they wanted, in whatever combination they wanted. But I like the Elecraft displays just as they are, for all the reasons others

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Roger Meadows
an.qth.net><mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated... Besides my K3 & P3, I also have an Icom IC-7300. The touch color display of the IC-7300 is essentially the same size as the P3 and I think the P3 is a little tiny bit larger of

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Kevin Stover, AC0H
: Phil Hystad<mailto:phys...@mac.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:18 PM To: Thom<mailto:k...@ki8w.com> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated... Besides my K3 & P3, I also have an Icom IC-7300. The touch c

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Al Lorona
Whenever this thread comes up-- and it has several times before-- I usually point toward the displays on the most advanced commercial aircraft in the skies for comparison. In this context, a pilot needs to know a few (or several) critical pieces of information instantly, and easily, and can't

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Dave Cole
My K3 has a new fresh color display... I use a computer and a Genovation pad to control it... :) 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 05/30/2017 02:36 PM, ke9uw wrote: I was wondering if the K3 display could be replaced by an updated display, one that looks like the ones on the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Bob
your regular conversation…. ;^) > > > > Ken K6MR > > > > From: Phil Hystad<mailto:phys...@mac.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:18 PM > > To: Thom<mailto:k...@ki8w.com> > > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net&

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Ken K6MR
uesday, May 30, 2017 3:44 PM To: Ken K6MR<mailto:k...@outlook.com> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated... Huh. Maybe it isn't a sighted thing that I just wouldn't understand after all. Or else Ken is an

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Scott Manthe
Remember that the K3 was designed almost 10 years ago to include being a nifty QRP/DXpedition rig. I'm guessing the monochrome display saves some current over a full-color display. 73, Scott N9AA On 5/30/17 5:36 PM, ke9uw wrote: I was wondering if the K3 display could be replaced by an

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Buddy Brannan
<mailto:k...@ki8w.com> > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated... > > Besides my K3 & P3, I also have an Icom IC-7300. The touch color display of > the IC-7300 is essentially the same size as

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Buddy Brannan
I was turning the knob on a K3 once a couple years ago and thought, hey, what a smooth turning knob. What a nifty radio. I want one. Not in this lifetime, however, though I'm really enjoying my KX3 and K2. Well...OK...enjoying is probably a stretch, since I need to put up an hf antenna again.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Ken K6MR
and click. This is radio, not a video game. And now back to your regular conversation…. ;^) Ken K6MR From: Phil Hystad<mailto:phys...@mac.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 3:18 PM To: Thom<mailto:k...@ki8w.com> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Phil Hystad
Besides my K3 & P3, I also have an Icom IC-7300. The touch color display of the IC-7300 is essentially the same size as the P3 and I think the P3 is a little tiny bit larger of maybe 1/8th inch larger diagonal measure. The information on the IC-7300 is basically the same as the combo of the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Thom
I was turning the knob on a K3S at Dayton and thought to myself...this looks like the display on my 10 year old Kenwood TS-570D. Come to think of it maybe Kenwood needs to update the displays on most of there radios too. 73 Thom KI8W On 5/30/2017 17:36, ke9uw wrote: I was wondering if