Romanchik Dan wrote:
It's all a matter of where you draw the line. This is just more
technology, and technology is **supposed** to make things easier.
Following your line of reasoning, we'd have to disqualify those using
DSP or beam antennas because it makes DXing harder for those
Romanchik Dan wrote:
But just for argument's sake, and because you
mentioned skills, how about keyers?? Keyers have taken a lot of the
skill out of sending CW, no? Shouldn't we outlaw them?
No, that's different. Keyers just automate a repetitive task. They don't
give the user any
Steve Ireland wrote:
It is a fascinating program to use and has already been responsible for
spotting a new 160m country for me
I think this is exactly the kind of thing that people are objecting to.
Taking away the work and the element of chance involved in hunting for the
DX removes
Ten out of ten Julian.
73,
Geoff
GM4ESD
Julian G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think this is exactly the kind of thing that people are objecting to.
Taking away the work and the element of chance involved in hunting for the
DX removes a lot of the challenge, even if you do still have to work
It's all a matter of where you draw the line. This is just more
technology, and technology is **supposed** to make things easier.
Following your line of reasoning, we'd have to disqualify those using
DSP or beam antennas because it makes DXing harder for those that
don't have them.
73!
After playing with this program for a few days it seems obvious that the
decoding part of the program is trying most of all to extract a call sign.
As a result of this you can see the AI part of the program do what it can to
separate all things after “DE” and construct a legitimate call. You can
Tom AK2B wrote:
It seems strange that some hams would find this sort of technology
objectionable. After all, aren’t we all about technology? Why would
we hang around this forum if we weren't looking for a leg up?
It's really very simple -- a matter of the normal distribution of the
In a message dated 2/6/08 2:59:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
It seems strange that some hams would find this sort of technology
objectionable.
Not to me.
After all, aren’t we all about technology?
No. While technology is a big part of ham radio, it's not the
With respect Dan I must agree with Julian G4ILO. As I see it, and to use
your example, DSP and beams are the weapons used during the hunt, but the
hunter must also know when to hunt, where to hunt and know how to approach
the prey, skills gained through experience (apology to any DX who might
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, G4ILO wrote:
I think this is exactly the kind of thing that people are objecting to.
Taking away the work and the element of chance involved in hunting for the
DX removes a lot of the challenge, even if you do still have to work it. And
if the big guns are instantly
Sorry, but I still don't see this program as any different than any
other technical gadgetry that hams use to increase their scores
during a contest. But just for argument's sake, and because you
mentioned skills, how about keyers?? Keyers have taken a lot of the
skill out of sending CW,
In a message dated 2/6/08 4:51:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A substantial proportion of people are naturally conservative. They don't
react well to things being changed.
Another substantial proportion of people are naturally progressive.
I would say change
On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 15:53, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote:
... once you start to replace the
skills with some form of 'automatic' system or crutch I believe that much of
the appeal in working DX is lost. DX Clusters are bad enough IMHO.
73,
Geoff
GM4ESD
(Who has been hunted)
I must
cx7tt wrote:
Gentlemen,
I do not think this program is a bad idea and not withstanding comments
from the cw purists, it could actually increase the number and
proficiency of cw operators. When I was just starting out and struggling
with 22 wpm, contesters running at 35+wpm just blew
G4ILO wrote:
What this software does appear to do is to show the *calls* of every station
operating within the passband. This means that an operator using the
software will be able to spot someone they haven't already worked, a new
multiplier or whatever, much quicker than they would if they
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