Geez, Bill! Do you actually believe that I think that QRP rules in every
situation? I didn't say that. I guess I shouldn't joke on the reflector.
Gary, N7HTS
On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:34:53 -0800 (PST)
Bill W4ZV btipp...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
Gary D Krause wrote:
Just as long as we all
This is the truth about QRP vs. QRO, as I see it. ;-) First of all, as so
many have already pointed out, it's all good. But, have you ever wondered why
the QRP guys seems to be more vocal about QRP than the QRO guys? I'm a QRP
guy myself and I can tell you it's because, it's so much fun and
Gary D Krause wrote:
Just as long as we all keep it in perspective and
realize that QRP RULES! ;-)
But QRP simply does NOT rule everywhere...
...for DXing on the low bands (80/160),
...for EME or meteor scatter on VHF,
...when propagation is marginal or atmospheric QRN is high,
...in
: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO
Gary D Krause wrote:
Just as long as we all keep it in perspective and
realize that QRP RULES! ;-)
But QRP simply does NOT rule everywhere...
...for DXing on the low bands (80/160),
...for EME
He had a wink after his 'QRP RULES!' statement. Winks, as in just
joking, giving you guys some crap, ha ha ha , hi hi hi...that sort of
thing. I seriously doubt anyone here is bashing or calling anyone out,
it's all fun, to each their own, don't push this or that upon someone
unless they ask,
I'm an *avid* QRP-er.
Not transmitting so much, *receiving*. Nothing is quite as satisfying as
being able to say FB OM, SOLID CPY to a whisper of a QRP signal.
So when I have several stations to choose from to call, the weakest is my
first choice. If he/she is QRP, then I'll crank down the
I really, really tried not to respond to this thread. It was definitely a
troll, but after reading through these messages the hook finally set.
I just don't understand the need within the Ham community to create these
arbitrary bifurcations. Why QRP vs. QRO? Why SSB vs CW, or straight key
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Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:34 AM
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Gary D Krause wrote:
Just as long as we all keep it in perspective and
realize that QRP RULES! ;-)
But QRP simply does NOT rule everywhere
Life is too short for QRP
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Obviously a troll.
Steve Ellington
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From: dw bw...@fastmail.fm
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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:34 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO
A few years back in our little
The world is too small for QRO...
Hans / LA2MOA
QRP-ARCI #11898
2009/3/5 Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com
Obviously a troll.
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
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From: dw bw...@fastmail.fm
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Sent: Thursday, March
very different activities, both a
lot of fun.
Bob W2WG
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve Ellington
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:33 AM
To: dw; Elecraft_List
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make one a better operator? Perhaps.
Try it, you may like it 73, lynn W4NL
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From: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:27 AM
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From: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com
Life is too short for QRP
Yes, obviously a troll, but a QRP QSO starts on the receiving end. Without
the ears on the distant end, a QRP rig just transmits another noise lost to
ground absorbtion and spatial dispersion. If there
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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:27 AM
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Life is too short for QRP
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DW and all:
A slightly different hunting analogy might be more illuminating. Here in
Maine, bear hunting is very popular. There are two ways to go about it.
If you're a local, you learn the bears habits and habitats, and you go
out and stalk the bear, and if you are very much smarter than the
Hi DW et al,
I am sure it is quite different on HF, but on 6m EME (where I spend most of my
time), I must agree with the slogan that Life is too short of QRP. No matter
how much power you run on 6m EME, it almost always seems like it is not quite
enough, and most every contact requires
I would estimate that 90% of my QRO contacts would have not been possible with
QRP. 98% would not have been enjoyable because I don't particularly enjoy
contacts where repeats are required to exchange any info. I would guess that
if only QRP to QRP were legal the QRP stations would lose 80%
There are so many variables contributing to the thrill. The hunter may
have gone for the target efficiently because he may have been jazzed
about testing a new ammo load he'd developed, and picked the easy
target to try it on first. Or he may merely be trying to feed himself
and his family, and
Most of my contacts are QRP, despite having a 100W PA available. I
was taught a long time ago to use only (about) as much power as was
needed to establish and maintain contact. The operating method
usually entails starting at 2W and working up through 5W to see if the
contact will work out if
Fists #12327, FP #268, OOTC #4423, QRPARCI #9521
--- On Thu, 3/5/09, Lynn Lamb, W4NL w...@charter.net wrote:
From: Lynn Lamb, W4NL w...@charter.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO
To: n...@yahoo.com, Elecraft_List elecraft@mailman.qth.net, dw
bw
Life is too short for QRP.
This may prove true in my case (just ask my wife; I used up several of
my lives designing the NC40A, Sierra, SST, Safari-4, KX1, K1, and K2).
But sometimes, the neighbors are too close for QRO. No matter how clean
your transmitter is, if your antenna is practically
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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:33 AM
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Obviously a troll.
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
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it.
Dave W7AQK
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From: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@flash.net
To: Elecraft_List elecraft@mailman.qth.net; dw
bw...@fastmail.fm
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP
vs. QRO
I would estimate that 90% of my QRO
On Mar 5, 2009, at 1:35 PM, David Yarnes wrote:
I also personally feel that your suggestion that big
antennas and power is what we need to impress new hams just
might be 180 degrees out of phase.
Spot on. New hams need to see what kind of experience they can have
with low power, old(er)
.
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
K5EWJ
--- On Thu, 3/5/09, David Yarnes w7...@cox.net wrote:
From: David Yarnes w7...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO
To: wrco...@flash.net, Elecraft_List elecraft@mailman.qth.net, dw
bw...@fastmail.fm
Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Grant Youngman
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO
Spot on. New hams
I'm wondering, what percentage of contacts you've made QRO, that you
would estimate as not attainable QRP.
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dw
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To answer your question, very few.
Isn't the important question, what's fun for *you*?
Ron AC7AC
I second Cookies comments.
The self righteous of the comments from some QRP advocates is a continual
annoyance. I have seen these same comments time and time again on the
reflector. Let it go!
Why do the QRP fanatics have to lobby so hard for thier cause? Can't they
let people make thier own
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
I'm wondering, what percentage of contacts you've made QRO, that you
would estimate as not attainable QRP.
To answer your question, very few.
Isn't the important question, what's fun for you?
Ron AC7AC
Ron is exactly right. That's the bottom line. We all do this
Oh, Oh. Someone using geek language :-).
Steve Ellington wrote:
Obviously a troll.
Steve Ellington
n...@carolina.rr.com
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From: dw bw...@fastmail.fm
To: Elecraft_List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:34 AM
Subject: [Elecraft]
They had me Jatz Cracker ed
Gary
VK4WT
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From: John N1JM jlmerr...@cox.net
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:35:13
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP vs. QRO
Oh, Oh. Someone using geek
Since everyone has an opinion here's mine. I believe that QRP and QRO both have
a place in ham radio. I really enjoy QRP operation because it brings back the
thrill of every contact that I had when I started in ham radio. When conditions
are marginal the extra power of QRO (100w in my case) can
I have a K1, it was my only HF rig from 2003 to 2008 when My K3/100 #696
arrived. I still use the K1 from time to time.
My goal it WAS CW QRP, 40 QSL cards received so far.
I am now also getting into CW traffic nets on 80, have often done it with 5
watts. Sometimes when conditions are a bit
until you can't hear me either.
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
K5EWJ
--- On Thu, 3/5/09, David Yarnes w7...@cox.net wrote:
From: David Yarnes w7...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Your Opinion: The realities of QRP
vs. QRO
To: wrco...@flash.net, Elecraft_List
elecraft@mailman.qth.net, dw bw
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