Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Order made Dec 31st at 1346

2012-05-07 Thread Hjalmar Duklæt

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Re: [Elecraft] backlight in unbuilt k1

2012-05-07 Thread Hjalmar Duklæt

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[Elecraft] K3 Recording Received Audio function

2012-05-07 Thread a.yoshida
Hello

Installed KDVR3 a few weeks ago.
I tried Recording Received Audio test while I called 7O6T (CW) many times
I notice that recording was muted during my transmission.

Is this normal ?

73
aki ja1nlx


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Re: [Elecraft] New AGC FW

2012-05-07 Thread Robert Galambos
Ok. Silly question. While I understand that the k3 and the kx3 are different 
implementation, software wise. When should we expect, at least a beta, of this 
new feature on the portable?

Not that you want me to be a beta, just asking for the group.

And sorry if it has been asked before

Sent from my iPad

On 2012-05-07, at 0:19, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Temporary work-around: manual notch.
 
 Wayne
 
 On May 6, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 
 
 Now we need to be patient to see if the auto-notch feature can be
 enabled whilst running the new settings.
 
 Agreed but not too patient!  The new settings seem to work find on SSB
 but the loss of auto-notch is the one big miss.
 
 73,
 
   ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 5/6/2012 10:08 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
 *Bob,
 
 I concur with all your observations. This is the largest FW  
 improvement
 effecting all styles of operation that I can recall in quite some  
 time.
 
 An S3 noise on 40M this morning was easily eliminated and then a  
 local Ham
 travelling by was 30db over S9 and I noticed the lack of distortion
 previously experienced prior to this upgrade.
 
 Now we need to be patient to see if the auto-notch feature can be  
 enabled
 whilst running the new settings.
 
 regards,
 Gary
 *
 On 7 May 2012 11:31, Jim Sheldonw...@cox.net  wrote:
 
 Don, Gary and the group,
 
 Wayne's earlier comments about the noise blanker working better  
 turns out
 to be an understatement to say the least.  Not only has the  
 clarity of
 signals improved by being able to tailor the onset of the SW AGC  
 to start
 at a higher level and clean up many of the artifacts that created  
 problems
 before, but it also allows the IF noise blanker as well as the DSP  
 noise
 blanker to work more like most people's concept of what a noise  
 blanker
 should be able to do and now does it with FAR less distortion to the
 desired signals.  This includes using heavy blanking with strong  
 signals
 close in.
 
 I've now been able to eliminate some stubborn power line  
 interference that
 has been plaguing me for a couple of weeks and due to recent  
 tornado damage
 a few miles South of me, the power company has not had time to  
 find and
 cure it yet.  They've been busy replacing the temporary lines   
 poles they
 used to get everyone back on line as quickly as they could after  
 the storm.
 
 Now that they are on the right track, I'll bet there will be quite  
 a few
 more improvements to come.
 
 Jim - W0EB
 
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Re: [Elecraft] No SubRX on 30M

2012-05-07 Thread Robby.VY2SS
Thanks to everyone who responded. 
It seems that for every day that I don't use the K3, more information drops
out of my head. 

73,

-Robby

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Re: [Elecraft] backlight in unbuilt k1

2012-05-07 Thread AF6NI
Thank you, missed that.
Joe

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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (Is there an easy button?)

2012-05-07 Thread Keith Heimbold
During my hotel ops last summer in westlake village, CA I used a 1:1 dipole 
balun attached to a MFJ telescopic pole and hung it off a best western balcony. 
Had a dipole cut for 20 and one for 6m. Worked Europe, south pacific on 20. And 
was able to work Oregon and Washington with this configuration both were 
resonant and worked well. Took about ten minutes from hotel room floor to being 
on the air.

Keith
AG6AZ
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[Elecraft] K3 LCD Display

2012-05-07 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I have two K3's and the LCD's appear to be colored differently.  I have 
the two LCD settings the same but the newer K3 display is slightly 
darker or more orangish in color than the older one.  Changing the 
settings does not change this coloration.  I realize this is minor but 
when they sit next to each other there is a noticeable difference.   Is 
there possibly another adjustment that I missed along the way?  This is 
probably just a difference in LCD runs.

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Re: [Elecraft] New AGC FW

2012-05-07 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I guess the question is:  Is this already implemented, or its equivalent,
on the KX3?  73, Guy.

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Robert Galambos va3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok. Silly question. While I understand that the k3 and the kx3 are
 different implementation, software wise. When should we expect, at least a
 beta, of this new feature on the portable?

 Not that you want me to be a beta, just asking for the group.

 And sorry if it has been asked before

 Sent from my iPad

 On 2012-05-07, at 0:19, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

  Temporary work-around: manual notch.
 
  Wayne
 
  On May 6, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 
 
  Now we need to be patient to see if the auto-notch feature can be
  enabled whilst running the new settings.
 
  Agreed but not too patient!  The new settings seem to work find on SSB
  but the loss of auto-notch is the one big miss.
 
  73,
 
... Joe, W4TV
 
 
  On 5/6/2012 10:08 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
  *Bob,
 
  I concur with all your observations. This is the largest FW
  improvement
  effecting all styles of operation that I can recall in quite some
  time.
 
  An S3 noise on 40M this morning was easily eliminated and then a
  local Ham
  travelling by was 30db over S9 and I noticed the lack of distortion
  previously experienced prior to this upgrade.
 
  Now we need to be patient to see if the auto-notch feature can be
  enabled
  whilst running the new settings.
 
  regards,
  Gary
  *
  On 7 May 2012 11:31, Jim Sheldonw...@cox.net  wrote:
 
  Don, Gary and the group,
 
  Wayne's earlier comments about the noise blanker working better
  turns out
  to be an understatement to say the least.  Not only has the
  clarity of
  signals improved by being able to tailor the onset of the SW AGC
  to start
  at a higher level and clean up many of the artifacts that created
  problems
  before, but it also allows the IF noise blanker as well as the DSP
  noise
  blanker to work more like most people's concept of what a noise
  blanker
  should be able to do and now does it with FAR less distortion to the
  desired signals.  This includes using heavy blanking with strong
  signals
  close in.
 
  I've now been able to eliminate some stubborn power line
  interference that
  has been plaguing me for a couple of weeks and due to recent
  tornado damage
  a few miles South of me, the power company has not had time to
  find and
  cure it yet.  They've been busy replacing the temporary lines
  poles they
  used to get everyone back on line as quickly as they could after
  the storm.
 
  Now that they are on the right track, I'll bet there will be quite
  a few
  more improvements to come.
 
  Jim - W0EB
 
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Re: [Elecraft] New AGC FW

2012-05-07 Thread JP O'Connor
Not yet. The K3 AGC firmware improvements have only just now been created
and are out for testing in the field. Wayne has already indicated that the
KX3 will benefit from the work in due time.



On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 I guess the question is:  Is this already implemented, or its equivalent,
 on the KX3?  73, Guy.

 On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Robert Galambos va3...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ok. Silly question. While I understand that the k3 and the kx3 are
  different implementation, software wise. When should we expect, at least
 a
  beta, of this new feature on the portable?
 
  Not that you want me to be a beta, just asking for the group.
 
  And sorry if it has been asked before
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On 2012-05-07, at 0:19, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
 
   Temporary work-around: manual notch.
  
   Wayne
  
   On May 6, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
  
  
   Now we need to be patient to see if the auto-notch feature can be
   enabled whilst running the new settings.
  
   Agreed but not too patient!  The new settings seem to work find on SSB
   but the loss of auto-notch is the one big miss.
  
   73,
  
 ... Joe, W4TV
  
  
   On 5/6/2012 10:08 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
   *Bob,
  
   I concur with all your observations. This is the largest FW
   improvement
   effecting all styles of operation that I can recall in quite some
   time.
  
   An S3 noise on 40M this morning was easily eliminated and then a
   local Ham
   travelling by was 30db over S9 and I noticed the lack of distortion
   previously experienced prior to this upgrade.
  
   Now we need to be patient to see if the auto-notch feature can be
   enabled
   whilst running the new settings.
  
   regards,
   Gary
   *
   On 7 May 2012 11:31, Jim Sheldonw...@cox.net  wrote:
  
   Don, Gary and the group,
  
   Wayne's earlier comments about the noise blanker working better
   turns out
   to be an understatement to say the least.  Not only has the
   clarity of
   signals improved by being able to tailor the onset of the SW AGC
   to start
   at a higher level and clean up many of the artifacts that created
   problems
   before, but it also allows the IF noise blanker as well as the DSP
   noise
   blanker to work more like most people's concept of what a noise
   blanker
   should be able to do and now does it with FAR less distortion to the
   desired signals.  This includes using heavy blanking with strong
   signals
   close in.
  
   I've now been able to eliminate some stubborn power line
   interference that
   has been plaguing me for a couple of weeks and due to recent
   tornado damage
   a few miles South of me, the power company has not had time to
   find and
   cure it yet.  They've been busy replacing the temporary lines
   poles they
   used to get everyone back on line as quickly as they could after
   the storm.
  
   Now that they are on the right track, I'll bet there will be quite
   a few
   more improvements to come.
  
   Jim - W0EB
  
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA3 misbehaving

2012-05-07 Thread Russell Tobolic
Steve;

I believe you have the same problem I had a few years ago on my K3 s/n 732.  It 
turns out that the current sensor IC, U6 on the KPAIO3 board was toast.  When 
you go above 12W this sensor measures the current to the KPA3.    There is also 
the same sensor (U1) on the RF board which is protected against reverse voltage 
on the 12V in.  The sensor on the KPAIO3 board is not protected against reverse 
voltage as this is connected directly to the input connector.  Please don't ask 
me how I found this out.   Could you have possibly reversed the 12V to the rig 
momentarily?  I replaced U6 and that fixed it.

Russ, N3CO



 From: Steve Reed ai...@arrl.net
To: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA3 misbehaving
 
OK, another update.

I tried the PA alignment procedure with the K3 utility.  The 5 watt
alignment goes fine.  The 50 watt alignment fails with Hi Curr.

Removed the KPA3, checked for anything obviously loose (all looks good) and
reinstalled.  Same error

Guess this will be a call to Elecraft tomorrow, unless someone in this
forum can help.

Steve, AI7AZ


On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Steve Reed ai...@arrl.net wrote:

 All,

 Here's the latest on my K3, now that I'm back from 7QP and can put it up
 on the bench and focus on this.

 When the PA setting is set to normal, I can in fact hear the relay click
 when I turn the power control past 12 watts.  However the display keeps
 indicating Hi Curr and kicks it all back to 12 watts or lower.  As you
 turn the power knob up, you can see the power setting increase, but Hi
 Curr keeps flashing in the display.  This is all *without* the K3
 transmitting.  Go into transmit mode and all you get is definitely 12 watts.

 The serial number is 5662.

 I plan on calling Elecraft about this tomorrow.  In the meantime, anyone
 have some ideas?

 Steve, AI7AZ




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Re: [Elecraft] KPA3 misbehaving

2012-05-07 Thread Steve Reed
Interesting!  As far as I know the power hasn't been reversed.  Possibly,
however, that current sensor has gone south for other reasons.
Fortunately, my K3 is still under warranty, I'll be talking with Elecraft
support this morning.

Steve, AI7AZ

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Russell Tobolic eru...@att.net wrote:

 Steve;

 I believe you have the same problem I had a few years ago on my K3 s/n
 732.  It turns out that the current sensor IC, U6 on the KPAIO3 board was
 toast.  When you go above 12W this sensor measures the current to the KPA3.
There is also the same sensor (U1) on the RF board which is protected
 against reverse voltage on the 12V in.  The sensor on the KPAIO3 board is
 not protected against reverse voltage as this is connected directly to the
 input connector.  Please don't ask me how I found this out.   Could you
 have possibly reversed the 12V to the rig momentarily?  I replaced U6 and
 that fixed it.

 Russ, N3CO

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 *To:* Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 *Sent:* Sunday, May 6, 2012 3:55 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] KPA3 misbehaving

 OK, another update.

 I tried the PA alignment procedure with the K3 utility.  The 5 watt
 alignment goes fine.  The 50 watt alignment fails with Hi Curr.

 Removed the KPA3, checked for anything obviously loose (all looks good) and
 reinstalled.  Same error

 Guess this will be a call to Elecraft tomorrow, unless someone in this
 forum can help.

 Steve, AI7AZ


 On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Steve Reed ai...@arrl.net wrote:

  All,
 
  Here's the latest on my K3, now that I'm back from 7QP and can put it up
  on the bench and focus on this.
 
  When the PA setting is set to normal, I can in fact hear the relay
 click
  when I turn the power control past 12 watts.  However the display keeps
  indicating Hi Curr and kicks it all back to 12 watts or lower.  As you
  turn the power knob up, you can see the power setting increase, but Hi
  Curr keeps flashing in the display.  This is all *without* the K3
  transmitting.  Go into transmit mode and all you get is definitely 12
 watts.
 
  The serial number is 5662.
 
  I plan on calling Elecraft about this tomorrow.  In the meantime, anyone
  have some ideas?
 
  Steve, AI7AZ
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] k1

2012-05-07 Thread wf8o
I experience the same initial drift downward, but like others have said, it
stabilizes nicely after
five or six minutes.  Great qrp rig!

Best 73/72

Mike Narges WF8O

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[Elecraft] K1 : W3FPR K2 Fixed Audio ??

2012-05-07 Thread wf8o
I have a K1 that is about a year old.  Love it.  Sometimes I like to use the
K1EL K42 keyer with it.
This keyer is a CW Keyboard and a Morse Reader coupled to a dynamite good
Message Memory function.
This setup works very well. But presently, I am using a splitter off of the
headphone jack.  This is usable, 
but a line level fixed output would be nice to have.  Has anyone already
solved this issue?  It seems that the W3FPR circuit and a 1/8 jack next to
the keyer jack would work.  Audio could be tapped off of the (input/output)
of the existing LM386 through a suitable cap. - I think.  Any thoughts??

Sincerely,

Mike Narges
WF8O

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 New AGC FW

2012-05-07 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
My question would be whether DSP log and antilog functions are not used all
over the place, not just the AGC.  73, Guy

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 All noise blankers cause some distortion -- it's a matter of degree.
 NARrow blanking pulses and lower DSP blanker settings will cause less.

 I'm surprised the AGC changes are having this much of a benefit, but
 I'm not going to complain.

 Wayne


 On May 6, 2012, at 6:40 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

  Loaded the new SW and I miss having NR.  I have been tuning around in
  the 7O piles and it is hard for me to compare as I never really
  experienced what others have.  I need to split the antenna and share
  with two K3's and see if I can hear a difference.
 
  Glad to hear the NB is working better.  The distortion to some signals
  with it on was really bad.
 
  Mike W0MU
 
  W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
 
 
  On 5/6/2012 7:31 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
  Don, Gary and the group,
 
  Wayne's earlier comments about the noise blanker working better
  turns out to be an understatement to say the least.  Not only has
  the clarity of signals improved by being able to tailor the onset
  of the SW AGC to start at a higher level and clean up many of the
  artifacts that created problems before, but it also allows the IF
  noise blanker as well as the DSP noise blanker to work more like
  most people's concept of what a noise blanker should be able to do
  and now does it with FAR less distortion to the desired signals.
  This includes using heavy blanking with strong signals close in.
 
  I've now been able to eliminate some stubborn power line
  interference that has been plaguing me for a couple of weeks and
  due to recent tornado damage a few miles South of me, the power
  company has not had time to find and cure it yet.  They've been
  busy replacing the temporary lines  poles they used to get
  everyone back on line as quickly as they could after the storm.
 
  Now that they are on the right track, I'll bet there will be quite
  a few more improvements to come.
 
  Jim - W0EB
 
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[Elecraft] How's the KX3's performance in comparison to the K2's?

2012-05-07 Thread Chris Wagner
Hi All,

what's your take on the receivers' performance? And the ATU?

73,
Chris KF6VCI
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio ramp up with DATA-A mode

2012-05-07 Thread Tony Estep
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.comwrote:

 If you are using Windows, there *is* a way to adjust the emu0202If you
 are running Windows 7 things may be a bit different

-
Under Win 7, to adjust the EMU0202 (or any recording or playback device),
here's what you do:
Right-click the speaker icon at the right end of the taskbar;
Click 'Playback Devices' and a small window will pop up;
Double-click the EMU0202 or whatever you want to adjust and another pop-up
will appear;
Click the 'Levels' tab and adjust the slider.



73,
Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] Amazing opening on 20 meters right now

2012-05-07 Thread Neoklis Kyriazis
There is an M class flare event in progress. We have transequatorial 
propagation on 6m between southern Africa and Europe at this time (1700 Z)

 
Regards

Neoklis - Ham Radio Call 5B4AZ
QTH Locator KM64KR
Website: http://www.qsl.net/5b4az/



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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amazing opening on 20 meters right now
 
On 12-05-05 12:52 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 In northern California I'm hearing dozens of very strong EU stations
 on 20 meter SSB. Wow.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 New AGC FW

2012-05-07 Thread Wayne Burdick
These particular functions are used *only* as part of the AGC  
calculations. They have to be very fast since they happen in the 48- 
kHz interrupt handler.

Wayne

On May 7, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

 My question would be whether DSP log and antilog functions are not  
 used all over the place, not just the AGC.  73, Guy

 On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com  
 wrote:
 All noise blankers cause some distortion -- it's a matter of degree.
 NARrow blanking pulses and lower DSP blanker settings will cause less.

 I'm surprised the AGC changes are having this much of a benefit, but
 I'm not going to complain.

 Wayne


 On May 6, 2012, at 6:40 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

  Loaded the new SW and I miss having NR.  I have been tuning around  
 in
  the 7O piles and it is hard for me to compare as I never really
  experienced what others have.  I need to split the antenna and share
  with two K3's and see if I can hear a difference.
 
  Glad to hear the NB is working better.  The distortion to some  
 signals
  with it on was really bad.
 
  Mike W0MU
 
  W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
 
 
  On 5/6/2012 7:31 PM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
  Don, Gary and the group,
 
  Wayne's earlier comments about the noise blanker working better
  turns out to be an understatement to say the least.  Not only has
  the clarity of signals improved by being able to tailor the onset
  of the SW AGC to start at a higher level and clean up many of the
  artifacts that created problems before, but it also allows the IF
  noise blanker as well as the DSP noise blanker to work more like
  most people's concept of what a noise blanker should be able to do
  and now does it with FAR less distortion to the desired signals.
  This includes using heavy blanking with strong signals close in.
 
  I've now been able to eliminate some stubborn power line
  interference that has been plaguing me for a couple of weeks and
  due to recent tornado damage a few miles South of me, the power
  company has not had time to find and cure it yet.  They've been
  busy replacing the temporary lines  poles they used to get
  everyone back on line as quickly as they could after the storm.
 
  Now that they are on the right track, I'll bet there will be quite
  a few more improvements to come.
 
  Jim - W0EB
 
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Re: [Elecraft] New AGC FW

2012-05-07 Thread Lu Romero
Glad I did not sell my trusty ancient Timewave 599 Plus...
It will be my personal auto notch temporary workaround until
the code catches up :)

Plan on playing with this tonight.  The improvements sound
quite encouraging!  I'll make some recordings while I play.

Keep slinging that code, Wayne and Lyle!

-lu- W4LT



Message: 24
Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 21:19:37 -0700
From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New AGC FW
To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed;
delsp=yes

Temporary work-around: manual notch.

Wayne

On May 6, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


 Now we need to be patient to see if the auto-notch
feature can be
 enabled whilst running the new settings.

 Agreed but not too patient!  The new settings seem to work
find on SSB
 but the loss of auto-notch is the one big miss.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


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[Elecraft] K3's new AGC: Working on reported audio loss

2012-05-07 Thread Wayne Burdick
We have about 100 customers testing the new K3 AGC firmware. While the  
improvement is clear, there appears to be an edge condition related to  
the setting of AGC SLP and large incoming signals. The symptom is a  
loss of audio. (In most cases, a the default AGC SLP setting of 12  
appears to prevent the problem from occurring.)

Once we figure this out, we'll do another update and send it to  
everyone who has revision 4.50/2.74.

Thanks for all your help with testing.

tnx
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 : W3FPR K2 Fixed Audio ??

2012-05-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 It seems that the W3FPR circuit and a 1/8 jack next to the keyer
 jack would work. Audio could be tapped off of the (input/output) of
 the existing LM386 through a suitable cap. - I think. Any thoughts??

Since you specify the W3FPR circuit and fixed level audio, you would
want to make any connection *before* the AF Pot.  My guess is that the
best results would be obtained by connecting the W3FPR circuit across
the AF Pot (pins 2 and 3 of P1 on the RF board) exactly as the circuit
is used in the K2.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 5/7/2012 11:12 AM, wf8o wrote:
 I have a K1 that is about a year old.  Love it.  Sometimes I like to use the
 K1EL K42 keyer with it.
 This keyer is a CW Keyboard and a Morse Reader coupled to a dynamite good
 Message Memory function.
 This setup works very well. But presently, I am using a splitter off of the
 headphone jack.  This is usable,
 but a line level fixed output would be nice to have.  Has anyone already
 solved this issue?  It seems that the W3FPR circuit and a 1/8 jack next to
 the keyer jack would work.  Audio could be tapped off of the (input/output)
 of the existing LM386 through a suitable cap. - I think.  Any thoughts??

 Sincerely,

 Mike Narges
 WF8O

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Tx audio ramp up with DATA-A mode

2012-05-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


  Under Win 7, to adjust the EMU0202 (or any recording or playback
  device), here's what you do:
  Right-click the speaker icon at the right end of the taskbar;
  Click 'Playback Devices' and a small window will pop up;
  Double-click the EMU0202 or whatever you want to adjust and another
  pop-up will appear;
  Click the 'Levels' tab and adjust the slider.

Since Vista and Windows 7 maintain playback (output) levels on a per
application basis, the better way of adjusting output levels is:

1) Right-click on the speaker icon
2) select open Volume Mixer
3) click on device in the menu (Vista) or the name drop-down
in the device box at the left end of the mixer display (Windows 7)
and select the device (e.g. EMU0202)
With the proper device selected in the Volume Mixer you can adjust
the overall output level (the Device box) *or* the output of the
specific application.

Vista/Windows 7 store output levels *per application* in the Registry
as a percentage of the overall device level.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 5/7/2012 11:35 AM, Tony Estep wrote:
 On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Bob Cunningsbob.cunni...@gmail.comwrote:

 If you are using Windows, there *is* a way to adjust the emu0202If you
 are running Windows 7 things may be a bit different

 -
 Under Win 7, to adjust the EMU0202 (or any recording or playback device),
 here's what you do:
 Right-click the speaker icon at the right end of the taskbar;
 Click 'Playback Devices' and a small window will pop up;
 Double-click the EMU0202 or whatever you want to adjust and another pop-up
 will appear;
 Click the 'Levels' tab and adjust the slider.



 73,
 Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] Issue with new P3/P3SVGA firmware

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hi Ian, 

As far as I know no one else is experiencing this.  When you upgraded to the
new firmware did load both the SVGA and P3?   You can verify this by using
the P3 Utility, it will show the version information of both the P3 and
SVGA. 

-Paul



Ian Kahn - Ham wrote
 
 I uploaded the new P3/P3SVGA firmware last night, and now I have what
 appears to be a minor, but annoying issue.  When I first boot everything
 up, I have my P3 set up to display both waterfall and bandscope displays.
 However, the P3SVGA only shows the bandscope display.  I have to turn the
 dual display off then back on again in order to get both displays via the
 P3SVGA.  Also, my frequency markers on the SVGA display are reduced to a
 1-pixel wide line instead of the broader green and purple markers.
 
 Is anyone else seeing this?  Right now it is just a minor inconvenience,
 but it would be nice if this gets fixed in the next firmware version.
 
 Thanks and 73,
 
 -- Ian
 Ian Kahn, KM4IK
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[Elecraft] K3 Tx audio ramp up with DATA-A mode

2012-05-07 Thread Edward R. Cole
Bob,

Thanks for that info, a much more elegant way to control the emu0202 
audio output.  I had to use the Contol Panel approach to gaining 
access to the speaker dialog box.  Adjusting the WAVE slider to the 
first mark at the bottom and K3 MIC level to 20 was perfect setting 
to obtain ALC 4-bars+ 5th blinking that is desired.  Nicer to plug 
audio line into back output jack and leave headphone jack for normal 
use (which I use).

I am running JT65B under WSJT for 2m-eme and one feature that I could 
not use was the moon ECHO mode.  That mode allows you to send a 
short carrier to the moon and receive your own signal to measure 
overall system performance.  The Tx/Rx sequence only lasts 2-seconds 
and with the K3 ramping up power taking 4-5 seconds this mode was 
unusable.  Besides overdriving the K3 in DATA-A is not nice.

Computer is Dell 2.33 GHz duo-core2 running XP32.  BTW running the 
emu0202 is very handy with having real physical control pots for 
setting receive audio level as noise can change this at any time and 
being able to reset this for the spectrum waterfall display is VERY 
handy.  Transmit audio only needs to be set once and forgotten.
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Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 21:00:54 -0600
From: Bob Cunnings bob.cunni...@gmail.com
Subject: [Elecraft]  K3 Tx audio ramp up with DATA-A mode
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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If you are using Windows, there *is* a way to adjust the emu0202 output
in software. It's not by using the EM-U control panel app but by using the
Windows Volume Control applet instead.

I'm using an emu0202 with Windows XP.

Either access the Windows Volume Control from the task bar

or

Navigate to Control Panel-Sounds and Audio Devices. Select
the Audio tab (not the Volume tab where the controls are grayed
out) and you should see the emu0202 as the sound playback
device. Click on the Volume... button to open the Speaker dialog,
where you can adjust the output level. With mine set to the 2nd tick mark
from the bottom, the mic level control is set to 16 or 17 to drive
the K3 to 4-5 bars input in DATA A mode.

If you are running Windows 7 things may be a bit different.

No, the emu0202 instructions don't mention how to do this.

Bob NW8L




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Re: [Elecraft] kx1 antenna

2012-05-07 Thread Rick Carolyn Dwight
 

 

From: Rick  Carolyn Dwight [mailto:kl...@mtaonline.net] 
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 10:32 AM
To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: kx1 antenna

 

Mike,

 I have used a kx1 portable for many years in many locations with
approximately a 25 ft wire, more or less vertical  and one or two
counterpoise wires approximately 17 ft.  If the counterpoise wire(s) are
laying directly on the ground nearly 100% of the time the rig tunes  2:1 on
40 meters and typically lower on 20 and 30 meters.  If the counterpoise
wires are elevated (even laying on bushes) the rig may not tune on 40
meters.  It is usually OK if you sit at a table and drape the counterpoise
wires down to the ground.  I have found it very useful to always carry
approximately a 6 or 8 foot wire with a medium size car battery charger clip
on one end.  Often clipping onto a metal picnic table, guard rail, car body,
chain link fence, or whatever is all I need for a workable
ground/counterpoise.  Or in your example, just try lengthening one of the
radials with the clipped on wire, or for 40 meters only try lengthening the
24 ft radiator with the clip lead.  There is a good chance that the rig will
then tune on 40 meters.  

It is possible but not likely that something is wrong with the antenna
tuner, you can step through the L and C combinations manually as outlined in
the manual.  

The 25 ft wire and 17 ft counterpoise/radial is not proposed as a high
performance antenna, but as a very workable, light weight antenna which is
easy to set up and will yield many happy QSO's ..some well over a thousand
miles on all 3 bands.   This is my usual travel and backpacking antenna,
however, if I am operating in a contest and can set up a more elaborate
antenna, it may be worth the effort.  It is probable that this very simple
antenna counterpoise combo will actually work better than many of the
compact, expensive, cute, loaded antennas that you see advertised).  For 40
meters a longer radiator(closer to 33 ft) and a more extensive counterpoise
or radial system will perform better, but radiators much longer than
approximately 26 or 27 feet will not tune on 20 meters.  If your radials are
laying on the ground, a larger number of radials are more important than
radials longer than about 17 ft.  If your counterpoise is elevated above
ground, for example on a deck, one or two resonant (quarter wave) radials
will be probably be better, although I have found rather unlikely
combinations that actually worked just fine.   

Rick  KL7CW   KX1 # 798

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[Elecraft] kpa 500 aux cable

2012-05-07 Thread l s
I just bought the KPA 500 amplifier and would like to know if  someone on this 
group has used it 

with the Icom 7000  with aux port cable to the Icom 13 pin connector. If so  I 
would like to make
my own cable since I have a spare 13 pin connector. Any information on this 
setup would be appreciated.

Tnx Lou KI6UM
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (Is there an easy button?)

2012-05-07 Thread Michael Babineau
Bernie : 

One of the most simple and effective portable antennas is the 44 Doublet, 
sometimes referred to as the Norcal Doublet  :

http://www.norcalqrp.org/norcaldoublet.htm

This should give you coverage from 40m through 10m with the internal ATUs in 
the Elecraft rigs. 

I don't like to rely on mother nature for antenna supports so I normally use a 
20 foot panfish pole
to support the antenna as an inverted vee. Other options would be the bigger 
DK9SQ mast, the similar
model that MFJ sells or the JackKite models (all close to 30 feet when fully 
extended). 

Get yourself a Pomona 1296 BNC to Male Binding post adaptor and put Radio Shack 
solderless Banana Plugs on the 
ends of the wire feedline, this will allow for quick connect and disconnect of 
the antenna. 

I use fishing snap swivels at the center and ends of the antenna and stake the 
ends of the doublet with some small
aluminum tent pegs attached to some lengths of brightly colored nylon cord so 
the ends of the antenna are 
visible and present less of a hazard to anyone who might happen by. 

The 88 foot version of this antenna will give you coverage down to 80m. 

Its cheap, very portable, easy to deploy and effective. 

Michael VE3WMB (K1, KX1, K2 builder/owner)

P.S. Here is a trick to reduce the strain on the tip of the poles when 
supporting a doublet 
(here is a case where a picture is worth 1000 words ) :

http://www.qsl.net/v/ve3wmb//VE3WMB/Blog/Entries/2010/9/28_Field_Doublet_centre_support.html

Dear Folks: 

I have a K2/10 (#6922) and a K1 (#1024).  I have used the latter in the field, 
and hope to use both portable.  I have a Buddi-Pole setup, but am annoyed at 
how long it takes to set up.  I am wondering if you folks have a suggestion 
for a really easy portable antenna setup.  Anyone? 

As a corollary to that question, I hear people say they just toss a wire up 
in a tree.  Both of my Elecraft rigs have the ATU's installed, and so, could 
I just use a wire?  I am contemplating getting some fine gauge wire (#24?) 
and soldering a 40 foot length to the positive pole of a BNC connector and a 
similar length to the shield.  What do you guys think? 

73 de Bernie, KF0QS 
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 : W3FPR K2 Fixed Audio ??

2012-05-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Joe's selection of points to connect is good IMHO.  I believe you want 
the point to be after the muting.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/7/2012 11:57 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 It seems that the W3FPR circuit and a 1/8 jack next to the keyer
 jack would work. Audio could be tapped off of the (input/output) of
 the existing LM386 through a suitable cap. - I think. Any thoughts??
 Since you specify the W3FPR circuit and fixed level audio, you would
 want to make any connection *before* the AF Pot.  My guess is that the
 best results would be obtained by connecting the W3FPR circuit across
 the AF Pot (pins 2 and 3 of P1 on the RF board) exactly as the circuit
 is used in the K2.

 73,

  ... Joe, W4TV



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Re: [Elecraft] My K2/100 keeps resetting at high power

2012-05-07 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
Just to follow up on this for anyone who might be searching the
archives, the problem was traced to the power supply. It was undersized
and wasn't what everyone remembered it as being, and after being pulled
out from under the desk it turned out to be an Astron 20, rather than an
Astron 35.

On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 Hisashi,

 The current indicated by tapping the DISPLAY button is the current drawn by 
 the base K2, and not the current into the KPA100.  Your 2.5 amp current at 10 
 watts is normal, as is the drop in current as you go into the KPA100 is on 
 stage because at low KPA100 power levels, the base K2 does not have to drive 
 the KPA100 very hard.

 I would suggest starting with the DC Diode voltage measurements - use the 
 values in the new KPA100 manual rather than your printed one - the chart in 
 your old manual is no longer good.

 Make certain the HV bias supply voltage stays up to par during transmit.

 If you have a 'scope, observe the RF output carefully with an eye on the 
 time-base of the 'scope so you can try to determine the frequency (even if 
 relevant) of good transmission vs. the frequency when it begins to draw more 
 current.  If it is oscillating, determining the approximate frequency of 
 oscillation can be helpful.

 This is not an easy thing to troubleshoot, I wish you luck.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 On 4/2/2012 9:39 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
 I just installed the KPA100UPKT about a month ago.
 
 Just to be clear, as I turn up the power, the internal metering shows
 1.5A while the external metering shows the current increasing as the
 power increases.
 
 I'll check the voltages around the diodes and the HV bias supply to
 begin with. Thanks for the pointers.
 
 On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 
 Hisashi,
 
 OK, so that sounds like the KPA100 may be oscillating.  First things to 
 check
 are the diodes in the T/R switch, the high voltage bias supply (check 
 during
 transmit too) and the operation of Q6 and Q7.
 
 Is this the newer KPA100 design with blue toroid cores at L16 and RFC1? 
 If
 not, you will want to install KPA100UPKT, it was designed to combat an
 oscillation tendency.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 4/2/2012 8:19 PM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
 After getting the suggestions from Eric and you, I looked at the
 metering I have already.
 
 I don't think it's the SWR bridge because the power reading matches the
 wattmeter on my MFJ-1788. It steadily increases and looks about the same
 as what the K2 shows.
 
 However, the voltage/current meter I get to from the DISPLAY button is
 odd. As I turn up the power before the KPA100 kicks in, I get an
 increasing current up to 2.5. Then the current reading drops to 1.5 and
 stays there. The metering of my power supply shows increasing current
 and everything resets itself when it gets ~15-20A.
 
 Time to look for the schematics, but any suggestions would be
 appreciated.
 
 On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 
 Hisashi,
 
 If by reset you mean the power turns off, you are most likely seeing 
 the
 internal resettable fuse trip.
 Normally you would see a HiCur message too.
 Usual causes for that behavior are either that the KPA100 wattmeter 
 diodes
 have been damaged or you have a damaged PA transistor in the base K2.
 
 Check the actual output power --
 Connect an external wattmeter between the KPA100 and a dummy load then 
 set
 the K2 power knob to about 30 watts.  set to CW and hold the key down 
 long
 enough to read the external wattmeter.  If it shows full power output
 (greater than 100 watts), you have a problem with the wattmeter in the
 KPA100
 - most likely bad diodes at D16 and D17.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 
 On 4/2/2012 11:37 AM, Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote:
 OK, it's S/N 4355 with all the latest mods and it used to just reset
 when I got on 15M phone. Now it's resetting on 30M CW while I'm trying
 to work DX so it's bugging me. :)
 
 Besides the standard checking for 10-year-old cold solder joints, is
 there anything else to check right away?
 


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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (Is there an easy button?)

2012-05-07 Thread Jim Lowman
Enjoyed the video, Stan.  I may look into one of these.

72/73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 5/6/2012 6:11 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
 Bernie, I'm no expert but I've been a QRP HF CW addict for 52 years and
 one solution I've found that works quite well with all my Elecraft rigs
 (KX1, K2, K2, and K3) is a simple halfwave vertical with *no* radials or
 any other ground return except for the coax shield.  It's not perfect
 but I've worked a freakin' pile of DX with it and its performance is
 reliable and repeatable.  I'm not looking to start any long threads or
 get into arguments with hams whose technical education and abilities far
 exceed mine.  I'm just offering a solution that works for me and which
 might work for you.  Let's see...what's that termYour Mileage May
 Vary.?  :}

 See my not perfect, but pretty darn good solution at  :
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWkpQ785Pjo


 73, Stan WB2LQF
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 Chihuahua)
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 : W3FPR K2 Fixed Audio ??

2012-05-07 Thread wf8o
Thanks a lot guys.  I thought that would work.  I'll give it a try.  Once
again, thanks.  Sorry for inadvertently not posting this in K!.

tnx  73 de Mike WF8O

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[Elecraft] KX3 Order

2012-05-07 Thread Edward R. Cole
Seeing chatter about orders and when they will arrive I checked my 
Elecraft order confirmation since I am unsure of the exact time I 
placed my order on 27Dec2011

The confirm e-mail was sent at 10:46pm; order# 2208-4482-7710
I later augmented my order to add the tuner

What is not clear is if the time-tag is AK time or CA time.  I wonder 
if anyone recalls the exact time that ordering was started.  Just to 
give me time to guess how far back in the pack I am.  I am thinking I 
made the order at 9pm AKST (10pm PST).




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Re: [Elecraft] My K2/100 keeps resetting at high power

2012-05-07 Thread K1FFX
I'm glad that switching to a bigger Astron supply solved your problem.  I
would
note, however, that I've been running my KPA100 with an Astron 20 at the 100
watt level for the past year with no problems.

Best regards -

Bruce K1FFX


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Re: [Elecraft] My K2/100 keeps resetting at high power

2012-05-07 Thread Rick Bates
Ditto here with my K3/100, except that the Astron 20 recently developed a
bad habit of crowbar'ing when I get on 20 meters with the KPA500.  Slams off
IMMEDIATELY on transmit with the amp.  I guess it doesn't like 500+ watts @
20' (my vertical).  Waiting for the KAT500, which will resolve that issue
(the wire antenna is 60' away but requires a tuner).  :-\

73,
Rick wa6nhc

-Original Message-
From: K1FFX

I'm glad that switching to a bigger Astron supply solved your problem.  I
would note, however, that I've been running my KPA100 with an Astron 20 at
the 100 watt level for the past year with no problems.

Best regards -

Bruce K1FFX

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Order

2012-05-07 Thread JP O'Connor
Hello Ed,

The order start time in UTC, along with an UNOFFICIAL and PARTIAL list of
orders as voluntarily self-reported by members of the KX3 Yahoo group may
be found at the link below. If you wish, you may add your information at
the bottom of the appropriate Orders Placed tab (factory built or kit),
either with your call or anonymously, and the person maintaining the list
will sort your entry into place a bit later. Hopefully you can examine the
headers on your original confirmation email to determine the zone the
reported time belongs to.

Note there are three tabs in this workbook:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsxBsqqgt7AxdGMtanBqcWMwOUVUYVZRbnJjZGN0UlE#gid=0
Remember that this list is not an Elecraft list. Items may ship out of
order as shown on this list since it is unofficial and incomplete. It is
only a very rough guide for those who couldn't wait to hear news about
shipments. Elecraft is shipping as rapidly as they can, consistent with
quality and start up issue resolution. I am happy to wait for mine so it is
right!

I received my shipping pre-notice (or order reconfirmation request) late
Friday and hope to have my radio in the next week or so. My order was
placed at 04:48 UTC that first night, roughly 90 minutes or so after
ordering opened.

73 de JP WF4Z


On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:

 Seeing chatter about orders and when they will arrive I checked my
 Elecraft order confirmation since I am unsure of the exact time I
 placed my order on 27Dec2011

 The confirm e-mail was sent at 10:46pm; order# 2208-4482-7710
 I later augmented my order to add the tuner

 What is not clear is if the time-tag is AK time or CA time.  I wonder
 if anyone recalls the exact time that ordering was started.  Just to
 give me time to guess how far back in the pack I am.  I am thinking I
 made the order at 9pm AKST (10pm PST).




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Re: [Elecraft] [K3} CocoaModem MacLoggerDX

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Frantz
In cocoaModem -- Preferences, look at the tab  Modems. It will 
let you choose which encoding schemes appear across the top of 
the window. In the RTTY world, there are RTTY, Wideband RTTY, 
and Dual RTTY. Have fun.

On 5/7/12 at 4:48, n...@nf4l.com (Mike) wrote:

Missed it in the first reply. The only RTTY window I can get is 
the one selected by clicking on RTTY. I don't see dual RTTY

Here's a screen shot of what I see when I start CCM.
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (Is there and easy button?)

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Huff
This simple antenna has worked very well with my 3-band KX1 (40-30-20).  The 
original idea came from WA3WSJ.  The antenna consists of a 40-ft radiator that 
is tossed up into a tree to form anything from an inverted-L, to a sloper, to a 
vertical.  There are three 16-ft counterpoise wires that are laid out on the 
ground.  The antenna and counterpoise are connected directly to the KX1 using a 
BNC-to-banana-jack adaptor.  I have about 50-ft of fishing line attached to the 
end of the radiator and put a fishing weight on the end of that.  I either use 
a 
slingshot or my arm to toss the weight over a branch and then haul up the 
antenna into place.  The radiator and counterpoise are both made from steel 
bead 
wire.  It is a very strong but thin nylon coated stranded steel wire that is 
used by craft people to make jewelry.  A 100-ft spool only cost about $7 at a 
local fabric and craft store.  Of course the nylon coating must be removed to 
make the connections, and since it's steel and can't be soldered a banana plug 
that clamps onto the wire must be used.  The radiator, fishing line, and 
counterpoise all wind back up on the spool that the wire originally came on. 
This antenna is simple, strong, and light weight, and has given me good results 
from the field with contacts all over the country and some DX as well.  I'm 
sure 
that steel wire has all kinds of technical problems with velocity factors and 
stuff like that, but it works.  Making it with some small gauge Teflon coated 
copper wire should certainly work as well or better than the bead wire.



73,

Paul - N8XMS



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Dave Hachadorian
To my ears, this AGC change is a MAJOR improvement!  It didn't 
take any extensive testing to reach that conclusion.  The 
difference is immediately obvious.

As mentioned previously, with low values of slope and high values 
of threshold, loud signals blank out with the current firmware 
release, so the most aggressive combinations can't be used now. 
Threshold 15 and slope 0 seem to work pretty well though.  I am 
listening to 20 meter cw now with two K3's.  Rig 1 has the new 
firmware, with threshold 15 and slope 0.  Rig 2 has threshold 8 
and slope 0 with the current mainstream firmware.

Rig 1 sounds MUCH cleaner, both on the loud W1AW code practice 
signal, and on the 7O6T pileup.  The pileup is not too deep on 
any one frequency, so it's not the ultimate test, but signals do 
sound much cleaner on rig 1.

If more aggressive values of slope and threshold can be 
accommodated without the blanking effect, the improvement will be 
even greater.Elecraft is definitely on the right track here. 
Thanks for working on this issue!


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, Arizona


-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Burdick
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 4:06 PM
To: Elecraft Wayne Burdick - N6KR
Subject: K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

Hi all (everyone is BCC'd on this),

As I mentioned, we've made some improvements to the K3's DSP AGC. 
No
hardware changes are being made this time. This is strictly a 
firmware
change to the MCU and DSPs.

One change will benefit the AGC at all settings: elimination of 
the
interpolation errors in the AGC onset curve. This by itself adds 
some
clarity to signals.

The other change allows the AGC THR parameter to be set to a 
higher
value -- up to 20. The original default (5) put the threshold for 
AGC
onset to around S2 or S3, and the max was 8 (about S4-S5). A 
setting
of about 11 now puts the threshold around S7, and the new max of 
20
puts it around S8-S9. Any signals below the threshold should not
activate DSP AGC at all. (Hardware AGC is not affected by the 
changes;
it still kicks in around S9+20 dB.)

Two interesting side-effects of raising the threshold: (1) noise
blanking may seem to be much more effective than before; (2) QSB 
on
weak signals may be more noticeable.

**
IMPORTANT:

Please set AGC SLP (slope) to something above 0, for now, as this
appears to cause problems.

Setting AGC THR above 8 will *temporarily disable* auto-notch and
noise reduction. The switches and NR level control will still 
behave
the same, but they will have no effect unless you set the 
threshold
back to 8 or lower. We may make the threshold per-mode in a later
release so that, for example, you could set a high threshold for 
CW
but still have a threshold of 8 or lower for other modes, 
allowing NR
and auto-notch to still work in this case.

The reason autonotch and NR must be disabled for high-threshold 
AGC is
that the dynamic range of signals can be an order of magnitude 
higher.
We'll be experimenting further to see if NR and autonotch can be
modified to still allow their use with high thresholds. But 
generally
speaking, pileup conditions in CW (the principle target) don't 
require
the use of NR, and autonotch doesn't apply to CW.
***

Keep in mind that it may be difficult to reproduce the conditions
under which in-band IMD has been reported. Most operators have 
claimed
it was caused by dozens (maybe even hundreds!) of signals in 
the S5
or lower range, all practically on top of each other. This effect 
has
gotten worse in recent years due to the prevalence of spotting. 
Short
of actually heading for a DX QTH, you may not be able to 
reproduce the
conditions accurately.

But it is true that some operators prefer a higher AGC threshold 
in
general, while allowing AGC to remain turned on. You'll now have 
that
capability with the K3. This has been touted as a difference in 
favor
of some other radios. Not any more :)

The new firmware is attached. As with a beta release, you'll need 
to
unzip (extract) the files and put them somewhere easily located,
usually on the desktop, then tell K3 Utility where to find it. 
You
must load all of the new code, so use the send all option.

Make sure after loading that your MCU is at rev 4.50 and both DSP 
and
AUX DSP at 2.74.

Please test the new code in a variety of conditions. If you have 
two
K3s, please put the new firmware on one of them, set them both up
identically, and compare them by switching the antenna between 
the two
radios.

Assuming it passes your own tests, feel free to pass it on to 
anyone
who you think might benefit from it, including those planning
DXpeditions (or even *at* a DXpedition, if they're willing and 
able to
try a new firmware load).

Also, by all means post your observations to the Elecraft 
reflector
(or elsewhere). If all goes well, we can release this as beta 
code
next week.

73,
Wayne
N6KR










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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Order

2012-05-07 Thread Bob K6UJ
When I ordered my K3 it took 5 days, 18 minutes, and 37 seconds before I 
received it. :-)
(sorry, I couldn't resist)

Bob
K6UJ




On May 7, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote:

 Seeing chatter about orders and when they will arrive I checked my 
 Elecraft order confirmation since I am unsure of the exact time I 
 placed my order on 27Dec2011
 
 The confirm e-mail was sent at 10:46pm; order# 2208-4482-7710
 I later augmented my order to add the tuner
 
 What is not clear is if the time-tag is AK time or CA time.  I wonder 
 if anyone recalls the exact time that ordering was started.  Just to 
 give me time to guess how far back in the pack I am.  I am thinking I 
 made the order at 9pm AKST (10pm PST).
 
 
 
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Fred Jensen
On 5/7/2012 1:56 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:
 To my ears, this AGC change is a MAJOR improvement!  It didn't take
 any extensive testing to reach that conclusion.  The difference is
 immediately obvious.

That's very good news.  Possibly a beta release this week or maybe next, 
I hope.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] New P3 Software and Firmware

2012-05-07 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Thanks Tom, 

73, 

P3/SVGA team

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Tony Estep
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Dave Hachadorian k...@arrl.net wrote:

 Thanks for working on this issue!

=
This is a real-life example of a terrific attitude toward customer
satisfaction. When this issue was first raised, the company could have been
defensive and simply asserted that there was no problem -- those of us who
have been doing this for a while can easily think of nearly identical
situations wherein other ham manufacturers have done exactly that. Indeed,
there were comments on this reflector offhandedly dismissing the queries
about signal mush. But not from the design team; they took it to heart
and dug through the problem with a serious desire to replicate it if
possible, and to figure out the source and attack it. And did it right in
the middle of the big production crunch with the KX3, and with no specific
financial payoff in mind. The payoff is in knowing that no stone has been
left unturned to make the K3 the best DX/contest machine it can be, and
that the hams who appreciate that will spread the word.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
HI All,
 What do they say in the song, No one does it better.   Thank you
Elecraft, this is why so many of us are rabidly happy about your product.
It helps to have hams running the company which engineers ham radio only.

73 Doug EI2CN

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Dave Hachadorian k...@arrl.net wrote:

 Thanks for working on this issue!

=
This is a real-life example of a terrific attitude toward customer
satisfaction. When this issue was first raised, the company could have been
defensive and simply asserted that there was no problem -- those of us who
have been doing this for a while can easily think of nearly identical
situations wherein other ham manufacturers have done exactly that. Indeed,
there were comments on this reflector offhandedly dismissing the queries
about signal mush. But not from the design team; they took it to heart
and dug through the problem with a serious desire to replicate it if
possible, and to figure out the source and attack it. And did it right in
the middle of the big production crunch with the KX3, and with no specific
financial payoff in mind. The payoff is in knowing that no stone has been
left unturned to make the K3 the best DX/contest machine it can be, and
that the hams who appreciate that will spread the word.

Tony KT0NY


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Order

2012-05-07 Thread Gary Gregory
*Bob,

Did you also enter your order on a countdown list so you could see how long
before you might receive it?:-)
Gary
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On 8 May 2012 07:11, Bob K6UJ k...@pacbell.net wrote:

 When I ordered my K3 it took 5 days, 18 minutes, and 37 seconds before I
 received it. :-)
 (sorry, I couldn't resist)

 Bob
 K6UJ




 On May 7, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote:

  Seeing chatter about orders and when they will arrive I checked my
  Elecraft order confirmation since I am unsure of the exact time I
  placed my order on 27Dec2011
 
  The confirm e-mail was sent at 10:46pm; order# 2208-4482-7710
  I later augmented my order to add the tuner
 
  What is not clear is if the time-tag is AK time or CA time.  I wonder
  if anyone recalls the exact time that ordering was started.  Just to
  give me time to guess how far back in the pack I am.  I am thinking I
  made the order at 9pm AKST (10pm PST).
 
 
 
 
  73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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[Elecraft] P3 spurs that move with tuning - resolution.

2012-05-07 Thread Fred Jensen
Original post:  While tuned to 3533, the P3 reported an S9 signal, 
narrow and essentially a steady carrier down frequency 15 KHz or so.  It 
moved with the VFO A cursor such that I couldn't tune to it.  I found 
similar signals on other bands.

Geoff and I have been conversing about it off-list and the final 
conclusion was that I had finally calibrated my K3 S-meter with my 
service monitor, and then tried to calibrate the P3.  I was able to do 
so, however I had to run the P3 Gain way way up to get -73 dBm on the 
P3 for the S9 signal.  K3 is S/N 642 and did not have the IF level mod. 
  It does now, the P3 gain is back in reasonable territory, K3 and P3 
agree on signal strength, and all the spurs are gone.

My theory is that with the P3 gain so high, it was seeing miniscule 
leakage of internal K3 signals.  Moral appears to be, if you're going to 
use a P3, you need the IF level mod [K3BUFFKIT] or something like that 
if your K3 doesn't already have it.  The kit replaces a single SM 
resistor [R8 on the RF board].  If I can do it, anyone can.

Elecraft sent both SM and leaded resistors, I chose old school.  I found 
R8 very easily, grabbed it with a small locking surgical clamp, and it 
immediately broke off leaving the two pads.  I formed the resistor 
leads, soldered the one end into the via, and then tacked down the other 
end.  By far the hardest part was getting the K3 out of the shelf, a 
dozen cables disconnected, and then reconnecting everything [correctly] 
in back again.  It took several tries, and I kept wondering why is it 
called wireless?

Incidentally, I have a small stock of surgical clamps of various types, 
they are most useful electronic tools.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Rick Bates
Now if we could convince ANY vehicle manufacturer to have the same attitude,
designers that are also mechanics (without the need for an MSEE)...  Maybe
we'd have a chance to work under the hood again like we can with Elecraft.

Rick wa6nhc :o)

-Original Message-
From: Doug Turnbull
It helps to have hams running the company which engineers ham radio only.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread David F. Reed
I cannot seem to locate where to download this; I can only see 4.48, no 
Beta...

Clues for the clueless?

Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Fred Jensen
I think Wayne's post indicated it would be released as a beta in the 
next week or so once the field test reports were in and they were 
satisfied with it.  It sure sounds like a really good job on the AGC, I 
guess patience is in order ... I know, hard for this list and these 
products. :-)

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 5/7/2012 3:59 PM, David F. Reed wrote:
 I cannot seem to locate where to download this; I can only see 4.48, no
 Beta...

 Clues for the clueless?

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] LiPol battery pack and KX3 - voltage vs output

2012-05-07 Thread Dick
I ran into a problem running the KX3 on 14.8vdc Li-ion packs after charging. 
The initial voltage exceeded 16 volts, the KX3 reported it and then shut
down. The solution was a simple one. I put two 50v, 3A diodes in series with
the positive lead.  I also added a center off - spdt switch to bypass one or
both diodes as the voltage dropped after operating for awhile.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi Dave,
It's not beta yet. I don't know what they call it -- gamma???

Cheers and 73,
Fred
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Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:00 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

I cannot seem to locate where to download this; I can only see 4.48, no
Beta...

Clues for the clueless?

Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Wayne Burdick
I just talked to Lyle. Looks like by tomorrow we'll have a version of  
DSP code that allows NR and autonotch to be used at all threshold  
settings, and fixes the high-signal issue some had reported.

I'll send it out to everyone who got the last test version.

Wayne
N6KR


Fred Jensen wrote:

 I think Wayne's post indicated it would be released as a beta in the
 next week or so


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Re: [Elecraft] wiring the KX1 paddle

2012-05-07 Thread Stan Gibbs
I just finished building the KXPD1 paddle for my KX1.  After examining the
situation, I really felt that having to solder the wires to the plug after
the paddles were on the body would be unnecessarily difficult.

I decided that it would be much easier to attach the wires to the plug first
and work on the proper routing of the wires to the paddle circuit boards
with the stereo plug inserted in the body of the paddle.  I did a lot of
position testing of the paddle circuit boards and wire bending, but the
results were very nice, and I had plenty of room to work.

I think it was a very straightforward way to assemble the KXPD1.

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Re: [Elecraft] New KX1 low power and 20m oscillation

2012-05-07 Thread Stan Gibbs
The 20m waveform on my P3 seems very broad, but I don't think that it is due
to any kind of oscillation.  The signal is 20 KHz wide at about 40 dB down. 
I don't know if this is normal or not, but I did manage to make 20m and 40m
QSOs last evening with good signal reports for both.

I made the power mod and the 40m power is now 2.8W and 20m power is 3.2W. 
Probably adequate for my SOTA needs.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Kevin
We in the IT business call it Alpha and you don't send it to anybody 
who can't figure out how to fix a broken system. In this case it's 
pretty easy, reset the radio and reload a backed up FW and config.

I would call what Wayne is doing this time Beta and when it is released 
on the website for general testing, Beta 2.


On 05/07/2012 06:50 PM, Cady, Fred wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 It's not beta yet. I don't know what they call it -- gamma???

 Cheers and 73,
 Fred
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[Elecraft] K3-EZ, new 4.50 firmware and first impressions

2012-05-07 Thread Lu Romero
In testing the new firmware, I discovered that K3-EZ version
2.0.0.5 will not allow AGC THR to be set above 8 and advised
that this is not possible in nice red text :)

N2BC will have to modify this in a later release when this
new rev goes into the wild.

Of course, no problem in changing it on the radio front
panel.

First impressions are quite good.  Only tried it on SSB but
there is much more separation of signal levels than before
with no changes in the settings I had in the rig.  The
higher the AGC THR, the more open the receiver sounds.

Have not needed the noise blanker yet.  

I also hear much tighter dynamics control... less suck out
on loud signals and the AGC decay ramps up a bit quicker
than before.  This may or may not be real but preceived
effect of less AGC action.  The audio is much more open
than before from a dynamics standpoint.

Much more pronouced difference in loud vs soft signals now,
with the same settings that I had before, just the change in
the firmware.

Nice start, gents.  Will try on CW later tonight. 

-lu-w4lt-
K3 #3192
 
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[Elecraft] P3 -- Span slow to update

2012-05-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
A couple of weeks ago I updated the P3 FW from 1.09 to 1.16 and while
I've not noticed any improvements since I don't have the SVGA board, I
have noticed that the SPAN adjusts very slowly now.  Before the update
it adjusted about as fast as the knob was turned but now I can overrun it
quite easily or I need to turn the knob quite slowly.  Has anyone else
observed this behavior?  If this is the new normal I think I'll go
back to 1.09!

73, de Nate, N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 -- Span slow to update

2012-05-07 Thread Charles Johnson
I see the same behavior. P3 without the SVGA board on 1.16 firmware.

73, Charlie, K4ZRJ

On May 7, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

 A couple of weeks ago I updated the P3 FW from 1.09 to 1.16 and while
 I've not noticed any improvements since I don't have the SVGA board, I
 have noticed that the SPAN adjusts very slowly now.  Before the update
 it adjusted about as fast as the knob was turned but now I can overrun it
 quite easily or I need to turn the knob quite slowly.  Has anyone else
 observed this behavior?  If this is the new normal I think I'll go
 back to 1.09!
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Great!

I have sent the SW to about 5 people.

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


On 5/7/2012 5:59 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 I just talked to Lyle. Looks like by tomorrow we'll have a version of
 DSP code that allows NR and autonotch to be used at all threshold
 settings, and fixes the high-signal issue some had reported.

 I'll send it out to everyone who got the last test version.

 Wayne
 N6KR


 Fred Jensen wrote:

 I think Wayne's post indicated it would be released as a beta in the
 next week or so

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Re: [Elecraft] New KX1 low power and 20m oscillation

2012-05-07 Thread Stan Gibbs

Stan Gibbs wrote
 
 The signal is 20 KHz wide at about 40 dB down.
 

I meant to say 2KHz wide, not 20...

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Re: [Elecraft] Issue with new P3/P3SVGA firmware

2012-05-07 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
It would appear that a couple of reboots solved the problem.  When I 
turned everything on over the weekend, all was as it should be.  
Whatever happened, the gremlins went to play elsewhere! :-)

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
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K3 #281, P3 #688
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team


On 5/7/2012 12:14 PM, Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote:
 Hi Ian,

 As far as I know no one else is experiencing this.  When you upgraded to the
 new firmware did load both the SVGA and P3?   You can verify this by using
 the P3 Utility, it will show the version information of both the P3 and
 SVGA.

 -Paul



 Ian Kahn - Ham wrote
 I uploaded the new P3/P3SVGA firmware last night, and now I have what
 appears to be a minor, but annoying issue.  When I first boot everything
 up, I have my P3 set up to display both waterfall and bandscope displays.
 However, the P3SVGA only shows the bandscope display.  I have to turn the
 dual display off then back on again in order to get both displays via the
 P3SVGA.  Also, my frequency markers on the SVGA display are reduced to a
 1-pixel wide line instead of the broader green and purple markers.

 Is anyone else seeing this?  Right now it is just a minor inconvenience,
 but it would be nice if this gets fixed in the next firmware version.

 Thanks and 73,

 -- Ian
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Re: [Elecraft] New KX1 low power and 20m oscillation

2012-05-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Stan,

Do you have the proper number of turns on the LPF toroids.  Count them 
and count again.  I suspect you may have one extra turn giving you the 
lower power on 40 meters.
I am not sure why you get the wide signal on 20 meters, because an extra 
turn on the toroids would reduce the cutoff frequency down into the 20 
meter band.

Count the number of times the wire passes through the center of the core.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/7/2012 8:10 PM, Stan Gibbs wrote:
 The 20m waveform on my P3 seems very broad, but I don't think that it is due
 to any kind of oscillation.  The signal is 20 KHz wide at about 40 dB down.
 I don't know if this is normal or not, but I did manage to make 20m and 40m
 QSOs last evening with good signal reports for both.

 I made the power mod and the 40m power is now 2.8W and 20m power is 3.2W.
 Probably adequate for my SOTA needs.

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Re: [Elecraft] New KX1 low power and 20m oscillation

2012-05-07 Thread Stan Gibbs
Hi Don,

All of the toroidal inductors and transformers have the correct number of
turns.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Frantz
As a retired software developer, what amazes me is the way Wayne 
and company are performing their beta test. No NDA. It looks 
like almost anyone can sign up. Problems and future intentions 
are discussed in a public forum. I am blown away that a company 
would act this way. It is very refreshing.

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 5/7/12 at 14:41, estept...@gmail.com (Tony Estep) wrote:

This is a real-life example of a terrific attitude toward customer
satisfaction. When this issue was first raised, the company could have been
defensive and simply asserted that there was no problem -- those of us who
have been doing this for a while can easily think of nearly identical
situations wherein other ham manufacturers have done exactly that. Indeed,
there were comments on this reflector offhandedly dismissing the queries
about signal mush. But not from the design team; they took it to heart
and dug through the problem with a serious desire to replicate it if
possible, and to figure out the source and attack it. And did it right in
the middle of the big production crunch with the KX3, and with no specific
financial payoff in mind. The payoff is in knowing that no stone has been
left unturned to make the K3 the best DX/contest machine it can be, and
that the hams who appreciate that will spread the word.
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Re: [Elecraft] New KX1 low power and 20m oscillation

2012-05-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Stan,

Thanks for checking.
Try spreading the turns out evenly over the full diameter of the core.

You should be able to achieve 3 watts or more on each band with a 13m8 
volt power supply.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/7/2012 10:19 PM, Stan Gibbs wrote:
 Hi Don,

 All of the toroidal inductors and transformers have the correct number of
 turns.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Beta Beta.

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:

 Hi Dave,
 It's not beta yet. I don't know what they call it -- gamma???

 Cheers and 73,
 Fred
 The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation
 www.ke7x.com


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David F. Reed
 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:00 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

 I cannot seem to locate where to download this; I can only see 4.48, no
 Beta...

 Clues for the clueless?

 Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Order

2012-05-07 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Wow, it took several entire lifetimes for mine to arrive even though the 
calendar showed something like 5 months.

73, de Jim KG0KP

- Original Message - 
From: Bob K6UJ k...@pacbell.net
To: Elecraft List Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Order


 When I ordered my K3 it took 5 days, 18 minutes, and 37 seconds before I 
 received it. :-)
 (sorry, I couldn't resist)

 Bob
 K6UJ




 On May 7, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote:

 Seeing chatter about orders and when they will arrive I checked my
 Elecraft order confirmation since I am unsure of the exact time I
 placed my order on 27Dec2011

 The confirm e-mail was sent at 10:46pm; order# 2208-4482-7710
 I later augmented my order to add the tuner

 What is not clear is if the time-tag is AK time or CA time.  I wonder
 if anyone recalls the exact time that ordering was started.  Just to
 give me time to guess how far back in the pack I am.  I am thinking I
 made the order at 9pm AKST (10pm PST).




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill,

True, true -- but the situation with the KX3 is different than what has 
transpired with previous products.
Previously, the conversations of the Field Testers have been on a 
private forum.  While that is still true with the KX3, there is a lot 
more information that is in the open.  My guess is that it is due to 
the KX3 Yahoo Group, where a lot of questions are posed.  Wayne and Eric 
have been willing to respond to a number of those questions, and I 
believe that has set the stage for the present level of 'openness'.

 From my standpoint, Thank You other Elecraft customers for being 
patient while the process of final development, Field Test, and 
production ramp-up are taking place.  There are a few that expect 
immediate results to problems, but for the most part, customers have 
been very accepting of the inevitable delays in (optimistic) plans, and 
the resulting turmoil that each delay can create inside Elecraft.

Delays in the original plan (SWAG) are inevitable.  It is impossible to 
attempt to predict the schedule of another company ( read 'supplier') 
until you have commitments for price, quantity and schedule in place, 
and that is difficult to accomplish unless you have real numbers that 
the supplier can quote on.  That is only one of the possible things that 
can happen.

I have observed that the KX3 plan and schedule has been more open and 
transparent than most previous products.  Whether that is good or bad 
depends on the customer acceptance of supplier delays, field test 
reports that result in tweaks to the product, or problems in training 
new people to enable ramp up to full production status.

So far all is well, but the future remains to be seen.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/7/2012 10:25 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
 As a retired software developer, what amazes me is the way Wayne
 and company are performing their beta test. No NDA. It looks
 like almost anyone can sign up. Problems and future intentions
 are discussed in a public forum. I am blown away that a company
 would act this way. It is very refreshing.

 Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

 On 5/7/12 at 14:41, estept...@gmail.com (Tony Estep) wrote:

 This is a real-life example of a terrific attitude toward customer
 satisfaction. When this issue was first raised, the company could have been
 defensive and simply asserted that there was no problem -- those of us who
 have been doing this for a while can easily think of nearly identical
 situations wherein other ham manufacturers have done exactly that. Indeed,
 there were comments on this reflector offhandedly dismissing the queries
 about signal mush. But not from the design team; they took it to heart
 and dug through the problem with a serious desire to replicate it if
 possible, and to figure out the source and attack it. And did it right in
 the middle of the big production crunch with the KX3, and with no specific
 financial payoff in mind. The payoff is in knowing that no stone has been
 left unturned to make the K3 the best DX/contest machine it can be, and
 that the hams who appreciate that will spread the word.
 -
 Bill Frantz| The first thing you need when  | Periwinkle
 (408)356-8506  | using a perimeter defense is a | 16345
 Englewood Ave
 www.pwpconsult.com | perimeter. | Los Gatos,
 CA 95032

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Keith Heimbold
Making a great rig even better. Totally stoked to play with the radio with the 
new firmware.

 To my ears, this AGC change is a MAJOR improvement!  It didn't 
 take any extensive testing to reach that conclusion.  The 
 difference is immediately obvious.
 
 As mentioned previously, with low values of slope and high values 
 of threshold, loud signals blank out with the current firmware 
 release, so the most aggressive combinations can't be used now. 
 Threshold 15 and slope 0 seem to work pretty well though.  I am 
 listening to 20 meter cw now with two K3's.  Rig 1 has the new 
 firmware, with threshold 15 and slope 0.  Rig 2 has threshold 8 
 and slope 0 with the current mainstream firmware.
 
 Rig 1 sounds MUCH cleaner, both on the loud W1AW code practice 
 signal, and on the 7O6T pileup.  The pileup is not too deep on 
 any one frequency, so it's not the ultimate test, but signals do 
 sound much cleaner on rig 1.
 
 If more aggressive values of slope and threshold can be 
 accommodated without the blanking effect, the improvement will be 
 even greater.Elecraft is definitely on the right track here. 
 Thanks for working on this issue!
 
 
 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Yuma, Arizona
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sorry, I was responding to the wrong post.

While the content is valid for what it is, it is in response to a post 
on the KX3 Yahoo Group, and has nothing to do with the K3 AGC.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/7/2012 10:53 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Bill,

 True, true -- but the situation with the KX3 is different than what has
 transpired with previous products.
 Previously, the conversations of the Field Testers have been on a
 private forum.  While that is still true with the KX3, there is a lot
 more information that is in the open.  My guess is that it is due to
 the KX3 Yahoo Group, where a lot of questions are posed.  Wayne and Eric
 have been willing to respond to a number of those questions, and I
 believe that has set the stage for the present level of 'openness'.

   From my standpoint, Thank You other Elecraft customers for being
 patient while the process of final development, Field Test, and
 production ramp-up are taking place.  There are a few that expect
 immediate results to problems, but for the most part, customers have
 been very accepting of the inevitable delays in (optimistic) plans, and
 the resulting turmoil that each delay can create inside Elecraft.

 Delays in the original plan (SWAG) are inevitable.  It is impossible to
 attempt to predict the schedule of another company ( read 'supplier')
 until you have commitments for price, quantity and schedule in place,
 and that is difficult to accomplish unless you have real numbers that
 the supplier can quote on.  That is only one of the possible things that
 can happen.

 I have observed that the KX3 plan and schedule has been more open and
 transparent than most previous products.  Whether that is good or bad
 depends on the customer acceptance of supplier delays, field test
 reports that result in tweaks to the product, or problems in training
 new people to enable ramp up to full production status.

 So far all is well, but the future remains to be seen.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 5/7/2012 10:25 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
 As a retired software developer, what amazes me is the way Wayne
 and company are performing their beta test. No NDA. It looks
 like almost anyone can sign up. Problems and future intentions
 are discussed in a public forum. I am blown away that a company
 would act this way. It is very refreshing.

 Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

 On 5/7/12 at 14:41, estept...@gmail.com (Tony Estep) wrote:

 This is a real-life example of a terrific attitude toward customer
 satisfaction. When this issue was first raised, the company could have been
 defensive and simply asserted that there was no problem -- those of us who
 have been doing this for a while can easily think of nearly identical
 situations wherein other ham manufacturers have done exactly that. Indeed,
 there were comments on this reflector offhandedly dismissing the queries
 about signal mush. But not from the design team; they took it to heart
 and dug through the problem with a serious desire to replicate it if
 possible, and to figure out the source and attack it. And did it right in
 the middle of the big production crunch with the KX3, and with no specific
 financial payoff in mind. The payoff is in knowing that no stone has been
 left unturned to make the K3 the best DX/contest machine it can be, and
 that the hams who appreciate that will spread the word.
 -
 Bill Frantz| The first thing you need when  | Periwinkle
 (408)356-8506  | using a perimeter defense is a | 16345
 Englewood Ave
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[Elecraft] K3: New AGC improvements before WPX CW?

2012-05-07 Thread Ralph Parker
Beta Beta.
As in 'mo bettah'?

I'd like to use it in the WPX. Any chance it will be available before then?
I'd ask for a copy, but I might not be able to figure out how to install it
myself.

Ralph, VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread W2RU - Bud Hippisley

On May 7, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

 Beta Beta.

Meaning, I presume, it's a beta Beta than the first Beta.

Well, I guess we beta that to death

Bud, W2RU
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread David Christ
Software developers call it alpha.  Greek alphabet ya know -- alpha, 
beta, gamma...  I guess gamma must be the production release.

David K0LUM

At 10:42 PM -0400 5/7/12, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
Beta Beta.

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:

  Hi Dave,
  It's not beta yet. I don't know what they call it -- gamma???

  Cheers and 73,
  Fred
  The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation
   www.ke7x.com
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Re: [Elecraft] New KX1 low power and 20m oscillation

2012-05-07 Thread Stan Gibbs

Don Wilhelm-4 wrote
 
 Try spreading the turns out evenly over the full diameter of the core.
 

Which core are we talking about?  The manual says to squeeze the windings
of L2 if the 40m power is lower than 20m. I tried that and it did seem to
raise the 40m power, though still not as high as 20. 

I think some of the extra power on 20m is due to the spurious sidebands that
I observe. I really would like to understand what is causing that phenomenon
because it tells me something just isn't right and because I don't feel
comfortable operating with such a signal, despite the fact that other
stations give me good reports.


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] LiPol battery pack and KX3 - voltage vs output

2012-05-07 Thread Alan Bloom
A more elegant way to do it would be a low drop-out regulator.  Maybe
something like this:

http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/MIC29302WT/576-1124-ND/771593

Alan N1AL

On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 16:48 -0700, Dick wrote:
 I ran into a problem running the KX3 on 14.8vdc Li-ion packs after charging. 
 The initial voltage exceeded 16 volts, the KX3 reported it and then shut
 down. The solution was a simple one. I put two 50v, 3A diodes in series with
 the positive lead.  I also added a center off - spdt switch to bypass one or
 both diodes as the voltage dropped after operating for awhile.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Gary Gregory
*Without the radiation I hope..:-)

gary
*
On 8 May 2012 13:18, David Christ radio...@mchsi.com wrote:

 Software developers call it alpha.  Greek alphabet ya know -- alpha,
 beta, gamma...  I guess gamma must be the production release.

 David K0LUM

 At 10:42 PM -0400 5/7/12, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 Beta Beta.
 
 On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:
 
   Hi Dave,
   It's not beta yet. I don't know what they call it -- gamma???
 
   Cheers and 73,
   Fred
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Order

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Tubbs
How about we enter our own estimates on when we think we'll receive our new 
toys? Or maybe just add columns that automatically calculate the current 
120-day estimate from the date of order?

Bill
WK6A

Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2012, at 10:07 PM, Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net 
wrote:

 Wow, it took several entire lifetimes for mine to arrive even though the 
 calendar showed something like 5 months.
 
 73, de Jim KG0KP
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob K6UJ k...@pacbell.net
 To: Elecraft List Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Order
 
 
 When I ordered my K3 it took 5 days, 18 minutes, and 37 seconds before I 
 received it. :-)
 (sorry, I couldn't resist)
 
 Bob
 K6UJ
 
 
 
 
 On May 7, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote:
 
 Seeing chatter about orders and when they will arrive I checked my
 Elecraft order confirmation since I am unsure of the exact time I
 placed my order on 27Dec2011
 
 The confirm e-mail was sent at 10:46pm; order# 2208-4482-7710
 I later augmented my order to add the tuner
 
 What is not clear is if the time-tag is AK time or CA time.  I wonder
 if anyone recalls the exact time that ordering was started.  Just to
 give me time to guess how far back in the pack I am.  I am thinking I
 made the order at 9pm AKST (10pm PST).
 
 
 
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] Issue with new P3/P3SVGA firmware

2012-05-07 Thread N8LP
I reported this (WF not always coming up on the external screen) last week
and still see it from time to time. I don't think I have seen the other
problem.

Larry N8LP




Paul Saffren N6HZ wrote
 
 Hi Ian, 
 
 As far as I know no one else is experiencing this.  When you upgraded to
 the new firmware did load both the SVGA and P3?   You can verify this by
 using the P3 Utility, it will show the version information of both the P3
 and SVGA. 
 
 -Paul
 
 
 
 Ian Kahn - Ham wrote
 
 I uploaded the new P3/P3SVGA firmware last night, and now I have what
 appears to be a minor, but annoying issue.  When I first boot everything
 up, I have my P3 set up to display both waterfall and bandscope displays.
 However, the P3SVGA only shows the bandscope display.  I have to turn the
 dual display off then back on again in order to get both displays via the
 P3SVGA.  Also, my frequency markers on the SVGA display are reduced to a
 1-pixel wide line instead of the broader green and purple markers.
 
 Is anyone else seeing this?  Right now it is just a minor inconvenience,
 but it would be nice if this gets fixed in the next firmware version.
 
 Thanks and 73,
 
 -- Ian
 Ian Kahn, KM4IK
 Roswell, GA  EM74ua
 km4ik.ian@
 K3 #281, P3 #688
 HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Frantz
Not to worry. Your comments are a fine description of why in 
exchange for openness on the part of the vendor, the customers 
(we) need to exhibit patients when the inevitable things go 
wrong and things take longer than everyone hoped.

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 5/7/12 at 19:58, w3...@embarqmail.com (Don Wilhelm) wrote:

Sorry, I was responding to the wrong post.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread N5GE
Alpha...

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
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On Mon, 7 May 2012 17:50:01 -0600, Cady, Fred fc...@ece.montana.edu wrote:

Hi Dave,
It's not beta yet. I don't know what they call it -- gamma???

Cheers and 73,
Fred
The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation
www.ke7x.com


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David F. Reed
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:00 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

I cannot seem to locate where to download this; I can only see 4.48, no
Beta...

Clues for the clueless?

Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV

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Re: [Elecraft] New KX1 low power and 20m oscillation

2012-05-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Stan,

Without a 'scope or Spectrum Analyzer connected to your KX1, I don't 
know haw to answer, but my best guess is that you have a 20 meter low 
pass filter that has a cutoff frequency that is lower than normal 
(spreading the LPF turns will help with that, while the LPF cutoff for 
40 meters is too low for whatever reason or another, and that must be 
resolved.

Run the KX1 into a dummy loaqd thaqt is known to be 50 ohms resistive at 
7.000.000 aettinbe



On 5/7/2012 11:22 PM, Stan Gibbs wrote:
 Don Wilhelm-4 wrote
 Try spreading the turns out evenly over the full diameter of the core.

 Which core are we talking about?  The manual says to squeeze the windings
 of L2 if the 40m power is lower than 20m. I tried that and it did seem to
 raise the 40m power, though still not as high as 20.

 I think some of the extra power on 20m is due to the spurious sidebands that
 I observe. I really would like to understand what is causing that phenomenon
 because it tells me something just isn't right and because I don't feel
 comfortable operating with such a signal, despite the fact that other
 stations give me good reports.


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 73, Stan - KR7C
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