Re: [Elecraft] Re: OT Expert 1k Amplifier

2007-11-23 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
I'm a tubes guy rather than transistors. There's something quite satisfying about the glow from a nice big 4/1000-A or similar. If I had to buy a big amp this morning it would have a nice big tube - for example from HA8UG - http://web.axelero.hu/amplitec/mypa_eng.html . My rule for

[Elecraft] Disappointing delays in responses.

2007-11-23 Thread Keith Bainbridge
I ordered my K3 at 06-16 am PDT on 30/4/2007, by fax, receipt is available on my telecons bill ! I paid half up front and the balance August 29. I have sent an email to Lisa on monday this week and received no reply at all. Now I see people who ordered on May 1st have been notified of their

RE: [Elecraft] Problem to save my K3 configuration

2007-11-23 Thread Thomas Norff
Hi Simon, You are right... different computer same USB = serial converter and it is working. Thanks to all for the replies ! Thomas, DM7TN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Brown (HB9DRV) Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:04 AM

[Elecraft] K3 - Noise reduction gone in v1.42 firmware update?

2007-11-23 Thread Dave G4AON
I've just gone back to 1.41 got noise reduction back... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):

[Elecraft] K3 - too many firmware updates?

2007-11-23 Thread Dave G4AON
My updater has collected MCU firmware versions 1.34, 1.35, 1.36, 1.38, 1.39, 1.41 and 1.42 and I've only been using it since late Monday of this week! Hope you guys keep track of the changes, I can hardly keep up. Can we have proper change notification so we can decide which updates to take

[Elecraft] Computer type headsets with the K3

2007-11-23 Thread Doug Person
On my last order to my favorite computer parts vendor I added an inexpensive ($9.00) computer-type headset with mic. These turned out to be somewhat cheaply made - but not bad, with good sound quality and are reasonably comfortable. I plugged them into the K3, set the appropriate parameters

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Noise reduction gone in v1.42 firmware update?

2007-11-23 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft
Hi Dave, Wayne has temporarily turned NR off in the current release. It should be turned back on in the next release. 73, Eric _..._ Dave G4AON wrote: I don't know if it's something I've done, or if it's the latest firmware, but somehow I've lost my noise reduction function! Can

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Noise reduction gone in v1.42 firmware update?

2007-11-23 Thread Doug Person
Dave, I made the same observation yesterday after loading the new firmware. I press NR and get N/A in the display. 73, Doug -- K0DXV K3/100 #77 Dave G4AON wrote: I don't know if it's something I've done, or if it's the latest firmware, but somehow I've lost my noise reduction function! Can

[Elecraft] K3 - Noise reduction gone in v1.42 firmware update?

2007-11-23 Thread Dave G4AON
I don't know if it's something I've done, or if it's the latest firmware, but somehow I've lost my noise reduction function! Can someone with a K3 check theirs and let me know? 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

[Elecraft] I didn't realize what you meant (was RE: WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!)

2007-11-23 Thread Gary Hvizdak
Dave just wrote ... ... as long as this wire that earths the chassis is an ESD lead (1M ohm resistor etc) - what is the problem with that? -- Hi Dave, I didn't realize what you meant by ESD lead and assumed you were tying the chassis directly to ground, rather than via a 1 Meg resistor.

Re: [Elecraft] I didn't realize what you meant (was RE: WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!)

2007-11-23 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
No problem Gary and I'm glad we agree on that :-) Sorry if I didn't make that clear. To try to clarify this.. the basic premise is that anything you attach to you or your kit, while you are building, is bonded to the same point (that's important) and via a 1M ohm resistor lead. I also use

Re: [Elecraft] K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?

2007-11-23 Thread David Wilburn
Greetings Sarah, welcome to the hobby, and to a great radio. My AGC measurement was down a bit, not quite as far as yours, but it has been discussed here that there is some variation, and that it is not critical at that point. I re-visited my a little later on in the build process, and the

Re: [Elecraft] K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?

2007-11-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sarah, Congratulations on getting your license and venturing to build your K2. The AGC Threshold high limit is directly proportional to the 8 volt regulator actual output - if you follow the circuit you will discover that that voltage is really the result of a 3 legged resistive voltage

Re: [Elecraft] K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?

2007-11-23 Thread Sarah K
On Nov 23, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Sarah, Congratulations on getting your license and venturing to build your K2. Thanks! The AGC Threshold high limit is directly proportional to the 8 volt regulator actual output - if you follow the circuit you will discover that that

Re: [Elecraft] Customer Service...a defining factor in my order

2007-11-23 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Dick, From my experience, this is a *very busy* time at Elecraft. My own customer service issues were handled quickly and correctly on both the K2 and now on the K3. The problems Elecraft is facing right now don't have as much to do with customer service - they're more correctly associated

Re: [Elecraft] Customer Service...a defining factor in my order

2007-11-23 Thread wolfmanjack
Dick Roth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been reading the give and take on the stress of waiting for delivery... Don't worry. With Elecraft, ship happens! 73 John K7Fd ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a

Re: [Elecraft] K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?

2007-11-23 Thread Sarah K.
Well, I searched around a bit and found *another* cheap DMM, which seels to be reading about 0.12 to 0.14 volts higher than the first one. Now I don't know which one to believe! :-) (Carry one watch, or three, but never two...) Now I need to find my *other* other meter, the analog one I got when

[Elecraft] Customer Service...a defining factor in my order

2007-11-23 Thread Dick Roth
I've been reading the give and take on the stress of waiting for delivery. I placed my order for a K3 yesterday, depending on a low-stress transaction. The constant flow of email messaging between the Elecraft prime movers and the customer community is refreshing. I speak with the knowledge

Re: [Elecraft] Disappointing delays in responses.

2007-11-23 Thread Thom LaCosta
At 03:00 AM 11/23/2007, Keith Bainbridge wrote: I have faith in Elecraft, my K2 is one of the best pieces of gear I've ever owned, but my faith is wearing thin. Oh Ye of Little Faith. Question not the wisdom of those on high. 73, Thom - k3hrn

Re: [Elecraft] Customer Service...a defining factor in my order

2007-11-23 Thread Thom LaCosta
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Don Rasmussen wrote: Thats okay, I put a second order last week so I'll have something to complain about come February. Which year were you thinking of Don? Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the

[Elecraft] Tuning knob revisit (Gil WA5YKK)

2007-11-23 Thread Gil Gibbs
To those who dare - I'm in the middle of a mess, attempting to rework my whole QTH shack upstairs in the big house, and in so doing, I enjoy firing up the Icom 756 PRO I have alongside the K2 which is now doing a better job of SWL than the Icom. The only real problem I run into is that the

[Elecraft] Customer Service...a defining factor in my order

2007-11-23 Thread Don Rasmussen
My cw buddy John quipped: Don't worry. With Elecraft, ship happens! ... But John, just last night I told the XYL I'm still waiting for my K3!. That's the truth - no ship! Thats okay, I put a second order last week so I'll have something to complain about come February. I enjoy having

RE: [Elecraft] K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?

2007-11-23 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hi and welcome! It doesn't happen too often, but have you checked the accuracy of your cheap DMM? If you don't have anything to compare it with, you can get an idea of its condition by measuring the voltage across a fresh alkaline battery. It should read about 1.57 and 1.58 VDC. Ron AC7AC

[Elecraft] Four Band HF Antenna for portable use

2007-11-23 Thread Bradford F Bartlett
December QST has an article on a four band HF antenna for portable use. The antenna uses Valor Pro-Am helical whip antennas. Would anyone on the list know where one might purchase these whip antennas? Brad Bartlett, KA4KNK K-2 S/N 3615 ___ Elecraft

[Elecraft] Re: K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?

2007-11-23 Thread Sarah K
Hi All, I'm Sarah, AF6FH! I just got my license a couple weeks ago, and I'm now assembling K2# 0622, which will be my first HF radio. I started assembly on Wednesday night, and so far, everything's been going just fine. Just to clarify, that should be K2 #06322... and it took me *three*

Re: [Elecraft] I didn't realize what you meant (was RE: WARNING! WARNING! WAR...

2007-11-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Al, AFAIK, you are correct - the large value resistor is primarily there to protect the person wearing the wrist strap. However, I do not like to do any electronic or electrical work on a directly grounded and conductive surface - period. IMHO, there is too much of a chance to create a

Re: [Elecraft] K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?

2007-11-23 Thread Sarah K
Thanks to everyone who replied! Wow, help sure comes in a hurry on this list! The general consensus appears to be that I'm ok for the time being (yay!), so I'm going to go ahead and move on. I did test with the internal voltmeter as well, and it reports 3.5V. Special thanks to VE3TIX who

RE: [Elecraft] K3 - Possible Show Stoppers

2007-11-23 Thread Craig Rairdin
What fan noise? During long runs with lots of transmitting during SS I had to stick my hand behind the radio to see if the fans were on. They were, and the top of the radio stayed cool. You couldn't hear them at all. I can't answer your question about key-up spikes, but my dipole ends 25'

Re: [Elecraft] K3 variable roofing filters

2007-11-23 Thread David Wilburn
And a ballpark of when you think they may be available. Seems likely it would be first half of next year, with the rest of this year being busy getting K3's out the door. - David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 10:36 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of

[Elecraft] K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?

2007-11-23 Thread Sarah K.
Hi, I'm Sarah, AF6FH! I just got my license a couple weeks ago, and I'm now assembling K2# 0622, which will be my first HF radio. I started assembly on Wednesday night, and so far, everything's been going just fine. But... I'm having a little issue with setting the AGC Threshold. The

[Elecraft] For sale K2/100

2007-11-23 Thread dolfindon
Hi All I have a Fully loaded assembled K2/100 for sale. This radio is new built for sale and consists of the following: K2 - radio s/n 5363KSSB - sideband adapter 2.6KhzKAF2 - Audio filterKNB2 - noise blankerK160RX - 160 meter Receive antenna inputKPA100 - 100 watt amplifierQRP Lid with KAT2 -

[Elecraft] For Sale 4 band KX1 with tuner

2007-11-23 Thread dolfindon
I have new assembled KX1 For sale with the following options: KX1 - Radio KXB3080 - 30 and 80 meter module upgrade for 4 bands KXAT1 - internal antenna tuner KXPD1 - paddle kit The price for all of the above from Elecraft is $522 I am selling for $500 plus shipping check or money order only

[Elecraft] Re: OT Expert 1k Amplifier

2007-11-23 Thread Robert Allbright
Hi Stuart I know Ron GW3YDX (vinecom.co.uk) regularly uses the 1k amp in contests etc so has first hand experience. I use my K2 occasionally with my ACOM 1000 very satisfactorily, this amp is a masterpiece (all 5 reviews in Eham.net) but I sometimes wonder about the continuing supply

[Elecraft] Computer-based PSK31 with K3

2007-11-23 Thread Doug Person
Has anyone tried to use DgiPan or WinPSK with the K3? I'm in Data Mode A, PTT set to DTR and RTS, input to line-in. Clicking transmit on either program - the K3 will not go into transmit mode. Both programs configured to use RTS and/or DTR to key the rig. Ocasionally, I see the transmit LED

[Elecraft] K3 - too many firmware updates?

2007-11-23 Thread Dave G4AON
Bill My point is there is no mention in the release notes of removing the noise reduction between versions 1.41 and 1.42! 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 firmware 1.41, serial 80 === up on the top of the updater there is a screen under help firmware release notes , with a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - too many firmware updates?

2007-11-23 Thread Bill NY9H
up on the top of the updater there is a screen under help firmware release notes , with a historyof what changes hope this help bill At 10:26 AM 11/23/2007, Dave G4AON wrote: My updater has collected MCU firmware versions 1.34, 1.35, 1.36, 1.38, 1.39, 1.41 and 1.42 and I've only

[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: Nov 24 - Dec 23, 2007

2007-11-23 Thread Ken Newman
~ N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR November 24 - December 23, 2007 ~ 80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Each Tuesday to Mar 25 9 PM to 10:29 PM Eastern Time USA Info:

Re: [Elecraft] ESD recommendation

2007-11-23 Thread Bill NY9H
I have had that esd wrist strap and mat for years and the K3 was an obvious place to start using them... bill At 07:51 AM 11/23/2007, Julian G4ILO wrote: On Nov 23, 2007 12:48 PM, Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must use anti-static precautions. It's foolish to assemble a

[Elecraft] K2/K3 with Icom PC-PW1 amp

2007-11-23 Thread Jim Spears
Has anyone interfaced their rig to the Icom solid state amp? It looks like the KRC2 should do the trick but I would like to hear from someone who has been there before prior to ordering one. Jim N1NK K2 s/n 2580 K3 s/n TBD ___ Elecraft mailing

Re: [Elecraft] ESD recommendation

2007-11-23 Thread Julian G4ILO
On Nov 23, 2007 12:48 PM, Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must use anti-static precautions. It's foolish to assemble a $2500 radio only to damage it for the sake of perhaps $25 worth of anti-static products. Even I, notorious tightwad that I am, have forked out on an anti-static mat

[Elecraft] OT: ESD pad/mat and wrist strap

2007-11-23 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Greg (and anyone else): I got mine from Tiger Direct (suggested to me by W3FPR). The mat I got is sold out now, but here is another one (plus a wrist strap link). ESD mat http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1952934CatId=1802 Wrist strap

Re: [Elecraft] Re: OT Expert 1k Amplifier

2007-11-23 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Simon Brown (HB9DRV) I'm a tubes guy rather than transistors. There's something quite satisfying about the glow from a nice big 4/1000-A or similar. If I had to buy a big amp this morning it would have a nice big tube - for example from HA8UG - http://web.axelero.hu/amplitec/mypa_eng.html .

Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 R 19 R20 question

2007-11-23 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Werner, The resistors might have different characteristics even though their ohmic value is the same and they might look to be identical. Some years ago it was reported on the List that the KPA100's output was low on some bands, and the cause was believed to be that the manufacturer of R19

[Elecraft] SPE/ACOM and other microprocessor type amps

2007-11-23 Thread cx7tt
Hello, I too have followed the story of SPE and Tokyo Hypower amps with interest. I have been the owner of an ACOM 1000 for about 3 years now and had great service until...last Sept, the amp was sitting in standby mode waiting for 3B7 to show up on 20m; xyl and I watching news in next

RE: [Elecraft] KPA100 R 19 R20 question

2007-11-23 Thread Evert Bakker (PA2KW)
Werner, The inductive resistors are light-blue/grey. I replaced mine as well. They should have a reddish-brown colour now. Also a capacitor C31 should be replaced (was 0.033uF and should be 0.22 uF) 73's, Everet PA2KW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post

RE: [Elecraft] Problem to save my K3 configuration

2007-11-23 Thread dj7mgq
Hi Thomas, glad to hear that is now working. You are right... different computer same USB = serial converter and it is working. I had problems with an older version of the Elecraft firmware loader, which turned out not to be the application but the USB/RS232 drivers. I had used an other

Re: [Elecraft] Problem to save my K3 configuration

2007-11-23 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
I'm guessing an under-powered USB = serial converter. Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] On my XP Pro machine, with the latest service pack updates, I can save the config without a problem. I have proper serial ports on a desktop PC. I'm

RE: [Elecraft] Problem to save my K3 configuration

2007-11-23 Thread Thomas Norff
Hi Matt, Thanks for the reply and especially for the config file. My computer configuration looks quite similar to yours. I was able to write your configuration into my K3 !!! Only two (or three...) warnings about an illegal value... maybe my K3 has not the same modules... After that i tried

Re: [Elecraft] Tuning knob revisit (Gil WA5YKK)

2007-11-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gil, The FT-900 knob is no longer available. You can add an FT-900 (or ft100 or FT847) tire to your stock K2 knob and add the Elecraft finger dimple too. The stock K2 knob has adequate weight if the drag is adjusted properly, but the sharp edge is a problem for me - the rubber tire helps

[Elecraft] K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?

2007-11-23 Thread Don Rasmussen
Welcome welcome Sarah! Although you are starting at a time when signals are low, stay on 40 meters at night and you cannot go wrong. You have chosen the best possible place to start your hobby, with the Elecraft group and there are people here to help you with most anything outside of typing your

Re: [Elecraft] OT: ESD pad/mat and wrist strap

2007-11-23 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:43:36 -0500, you wrote: Greg (and anyone else): I got mine from Tiger Direct (suggested to me by W3FPR). The mat I got is sold out now, but here is another one (plus a wrist strap link). ESD mat

[Elecraft] Test only

2007-11-23 Thread David Andrews
I've had problems with spam filters - no response necessary, thanks. David G4CWB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):

Re: [Elecraft] ESD recommendation

2007-11-23 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Yes you do have to go to the effort of ESD projection - without it, you may just get lucky and not blow a component - but then you've just waited months for your K3 and why risk it? ESD stuff (like everything else) over in the US is so damn cheap anyway. I can't suggest where to buy - Radio Shack

[Elecraft] Problem to save my K3 configuration

2007-11-23 Thread Dave G4AON
Thomas On my XP Pro machine, with the latest service pack updates, I can save the config without a problem. I have proper serial ports on a desktop PC. I'm running the latest updater and firmware, MCU in K3 is ver 1.42 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___

Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 R 19 R20 question

2007-11-23 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
hi Gary, On 23 Nov 2007 at 2:04, Gary Hvizdak wrote:     I don’t know answer off hand and would need to do quite a bit of research to provide you with the correct answer.  Having not yet built my KPA100 the only thing I can tell you is that some years ago one of Elecraft’s suppliers changed

[Elecraft] ESD recommendation

2007-11-23 Thread Greg - N4CC
Hello all -- Like everyone else I'm looking forward to a K3 showing up sometime before I become a SK...hi hi...(third production run...ugh)...but I'm trying to get prepared so everything will be ready to go when the kit gets here. I don't have any special ESD protection and was wondering what

[Elecraft] ESD recommendation

2007-11-23 Thread Dave G4AON
You must use anti-static precautions. It's foolish to assemble a $2500 radio only to damage it for the sake of perhaps $25 worth of anti-static products. Mats and wrist straps must be tested for continuity before use, a pin through the mat will usually give a good enough connection for a

[Elecraft] Re: KPA100 resistors

2007-11-23 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
hi Dave, On 23 Nov 2007 at 11:55, DaveL wrote: There is a lot of information on the Elecraft website, but basically grey coloured resistors are bad.  Brown resistors are good. that's exactly the information I needed. So I have 3 good pairs. No need to change anything. I can give away 2 of

Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 R 19 R20 question

2007-11-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Werner, If they all look the same, they are all good. The old inductive resistors had a light-blue body, the new ones have a red-brown body color. I have mentioned many times that body color is not a good means of identifying components, but for KPA100 R19 and R20, it is good for now - if

[Elecraft] K3 variable roofing filters

2007-11-23 Thread Paul
One of the variable-passband filters we've been considering is one for SSB, with a range of about 1.4 to 2.2 kHz. It would have 5 poles rather than 8, but I'm sure it would work well in combination with the I.F. DSP. The MCU would automatically dial in the crystal filter bandwidth to match

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Noise reduction gone in v1.42 firmware update?

2007-11-23 Thread Julian G4ILO
On Nov 23, 2007 4:04 PM, Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just gone back to 1.41 got noise reduction back... It's not called the bleeding edge for nothing, Dave. :) (OK, I'm just jealous because you've got yours and I haven't...) -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack:

[Elecraft] K1-4 40 30 20 15 $400

2007-11-23 Thread Robert Kalkwarf
Hi All, I apologize for the confusion. This is a fully functional K1 Radio that I am offering not a work in progress. Some of the pictures I provide were of the inside of the radio during an audio jack replacement which was mistaken for an unfinished radio. Price for the below configuration

[Elecraft] K1-4 40 30 20 15 $400

2007-11-23 Thread Robert Kalkwarf
The K1 has been SOLD... Thanks to all who replied. 73 Bob W7WO Hi All, I apologize for the confusion. This is a fully functional K1 Radio that I am offering not a work in progress. Some of the pictures I provide were of the inside of the radio during an audio jack replacement which was

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! (was [Elecraft] ESD recommendation)

2007-11-23 Thread Gary Hvizdak
At 07:21:12 EST 2007 on Fri Nov 23, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote ... You need : : * a ESD wire - to connect the rig chassis to your bonding point (some may say this isn't absolutely necessary) -- All, YOU ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY SHOULD NOT GROUND THE CHASSIS while assembling your K3 or

Re: [Elecraft] Re: OT Expert 1k Amplifier

2007-11-23 Thread Mike Harris
G'day, | I use my K2 occasionally with my ACOM 1000 very satisfactorily, this | amp is a masterpiece (all 5 reviews in Eham.net) but I sometimes wonder | | about the continuing supply of replacement tubes? | | 73 de Robert K2/100 #5219 Apart from the K2 overshoot on SSB my Acom 1000 ticks over

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - too many firmware updates?

2007-11-23 Thread David Wilburn
A recent email to the reflector, but Elecraft, asked to please perform all updates, and mentioned that changes were going to be occurring to NR. http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg43892.html - David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 17:18

Re: [Elecraft] K2: AGC Threshold Too Low?

2007-11-23 Thread michael taylor
On Nov 23, 2007 3:53 PM, Sarah K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm Sarah, AF6FH! I just got my license a couple weeks ago, and I'm now assembling K2# 0622, which will be my first HF radio. I started assembly on Wednesday night, and so far, everything's been going just fine. Congrats, and

[Elecraft] K3 - Possible Show Stoppers

2007-11-23 Thread Joe
I am a SSB rag-chew operator and very interested in the K3. Have had many of the rigs on the market in the last few years and like the features of the K3. I have 3 questions that may be show stoppers for me. 1. Fan noise: How loud are the fans, what rig do they compare to. In a long SSB

Re: [Elecraft] I didn't realize what you meant (was RE: WARNING! WARNING! WAR...

2007-11-23 Thread AJSOENKE
In a message dated 11/23/2007 12:13:55 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No problem Gary and I'm glad we agree on that :-) Sorry if I didn't make that clear. To try to clarify this.. the basic premise is that anything you attach to you or your kit, while you are building,