RE: [Elecraft] K2 and data modes

2008-02-11 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

This works but it is very soundcard dependent.  If your soundcard 
has limited input gain or is particularly noisy the direct connection 
is marginal.  The smart solution is a combination of J5 and a 20 dB 
buffer like the W3FPR/N0SS board. 

More recent interfaces - microHAM DigiKeyer and microKEYER II - include 
low noise preamplifiers to work with fixed level audio sources as low 
as 50 to 100 mV (e.g., J5 in the K3 and the fixed level outputs in many 
YaeComWood radios). 

73, 

   ... Joe Subich, W4TV 
   microHAM America 
   http://www.microHAM-USA.com 
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rkayakr
 Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 12:06 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 and data modes
 
 
 
 Nick
   The easiest connection is a line from J5 to an 1/8 audio 
 socket on the rear panel. This is how my k2 is set up to work 
 with the Microham MicroKeyer.
  Bob
KD8CGH
   KX1, K2, K3, ...
 
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RE: [Elecraft] Quiescent current drain K3

2008-02-11 Thread Brett Howard
Looks like the power switch is just a button from the 12V that is divided
and dumped into one of the main PIC's so you're going to have the pic at
least partially awake to be able to respond to that...  That's going to
require a bit of sipping on the rail.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington,
M0XDF
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Quiescent current drain K3

21mA


On 11/2/08 11:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 Hi
 Has anyone measured the current drain on their K3 when it is
 Off ? 
 
 I have measured 7mA.
 
 Is this typical ?
 
 
 Bob ZD8RH
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 K3 (ssb)

2008-02-11 Thread David Cutter

Hi Trevor, thanks for that.

This is an interesting programme, particularly for those without on-board 
processing,  but I was hoping there was a way of evaluating a processed 
speech pattern without having to listen to it, ie completely objectively. 
Let's say I have a defect in my hearing (who doesn't have something lacking 
at our age?) how do I know that I have optimised my own transmitter for my 
own voice?  Listening to my own voice is fraught with variabilities, I might 
just have a head cold that day or wax in my ears and apply too much boost to 
the hf end, for instance.


The Vshaper is good for showing the spectrum, but speech intelligibility is 
not discernable from that spectrum.


If you have the ARRL Handbook for 1988, the first page of Chapter 7 gives 
clues but not enough to go on for me.


73

David
G3UNA



David said:


I just imagine that there is
somewhere a reference that will help identify those bits of the display
which contribute most to clarity and make it easy and more


Is this of any use as an analytical tool

http://www.dxatlas.com/VShaper/

Trevor  G0KTN 


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 K3 (ssb)

2008-02-11 Thread Trevor Smithers
David said:

I just imagine that there is 
somewhere a reference that will help identify those bits of the display 
which contribute most to clarity and make it easy and more 

Is this of any use as an analytical tool

http://www.dxatlas.com/VShaper/

Trevor  G0KTN
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RE: [Elecraft] K2 K3 (ssb)

2008-02-11 Thread Darwin, Keith
The technique I used to set the SSB settings on my K2 was like this.

1.  Transmit into a dummy load.
2.  Receive on a known good receiver (Drake 2B in my case).
3.  Record the receiver output in a high fidelity recorder (Cakewalk).
4.  Listen to the recording on studio headphones.

This allowed me to hear how my voice  my mic sound through my rig.  I
was able to vary the TX level in the recording to simulate S-9+ signals
or S-5 signals so I could see how things shifted as the signal went
down.

It's important to record yourself since you can't hear your own voice
well at all if you're talking at the same time.

- Keith N1AS -
- SKCC 344c -

-Original Message-
David,

You bring up a good point - how we actually sound to others is not
necessarily how we perceive ourselves.
Here is the alternative that I use:
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K1...

2008-02-11 Thread Ken, KA0W
I get about 56 kHz range for the 10 turns. Used both
the 68pF and the 120pF in series for C2. 

Have a great week ahead!

Ken, KA0W

 
No one makes a 15 turn 10K pot?  That would make
 it tune nice
 

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[Elecraft] K2 and digi modes

2008-02-11 Thread Nick Henwood
Many thanks for all the replies -  great response and I have plenty to get it 
working. Should have remembered to look on Don's website in the first place.
73 Nick G3RWF
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and data modes

2008-02-11 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
I've got a few extras of these boards here, so if anyone wants one,
let me know.

73, doug

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   Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:54:27 -0600
   From: Tom Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Nick:

   Wiring up my K2 for data modes - recall seeing a post from someone 
   who had done an easy mod to get audio out (i.e. line out) which is 
   not affected by the AF gain control. Have looked through the 
   archives in vain - can anyone help please?
   73 Nick G3RWF

   That was Don Wilhelm, W3FPR.  Don WAS selling a fixed-output audio device 
which
   he'd designed and for which I'd laid out the PCB design. See:

   http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com/K2_Fixed_Audio_Output.htm

   Just got a note from Don yesterday that he's sold the LAST(!) of his PC 
boards
   and is NOT planning on ordering more for resale.

   During the time that Don was selling this device, he went from suggesting 
that
   it be installed on the left side panel of the K2 (see bottom image on the 
link
   above), to installing it between the FP and CTRL PC boards. See:

  http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com/download_files/FP-CB%20mounting%20photos.pdf

   Moving from the original installation point to the second site requires that
   all components be laid down flat against the PC board (e.g. low-profile), 
which
   the original PC board design did NOT accommodate terribly well.

   As I type this reply, I am _IN_ the process of redesigning the PC board 
layout
   to more readily accommodate standard components laid flat against the board.

   I have not yet decided whether to actually offer this PC board for sale 'in
   quantity' or to just make a few (in the kitchen) and then offer them on a
   per order basis.  If demand was higher (I think Don pretty much answered most
 of the screaming demand for this device), I'd have a 'batch' run off at FAR
   Circuits, but this may not be the case.

   Regardless, it appears that new boards will be available very soon... 
probably
   within a week or two.  If you'd like to obtain a board, please contact me. I
   will be happy to send you a PDF of the new board layout if you are 
interested.
   First, visit Don't links (above) to see what is required for the 
installation.

   Cheers,

   Tom HammondN0SS

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RE: [Elecraft] Rob Sherwood's K3 test data -- quick summary

2008-02-11 Thread Darwin, Keith
Actually, Wayne, you have it upside down.  The K3 topping Rod's chart
simply validates his testing methods.

:-)

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 -

-Original Message-
From: wayne burdick

Rob Sherwood, NC0B, an independent and well-known receiver performance
specialist, has completed his K3 receiver tests. We're pleased with the
results, which will place the K3 at the top of his comparison chart.
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Re: [Elecraft] Topband RF feedback problem (KXV3 RX ANT isolation)

2008-02-11 Thread Bill W4ZV


Stewart G3RXQ:
Are you using a separate RX antenna ? There is a recognised issue
with the KXV3 and insufficient isolation  that can give rise to
spurious oscillations.

Barry N1EU:
As I reported previously, I had to install an ICE 196 RF Limiter in the
Beverage feedline to prevent my Acom from generating ArcFault errors on
160M.

There's definitely a problem with RX ANT isolation on the KXV3.  I
immediately experienced it when I first used my K3 on 160 in early December. 
I temporarily solved it with an RF choke on the Beverage input but the real
cure is a KXV3 mod from Elecraft (now installed).  Contact Elecraft for the
mod.  

I had used exactly the same RX ANT setup with a TS-930S, FT-1000MP and Orion
with no problems so this was definitely a problem unique to the K3 (now
solved).

73,  Bill  W4ZV
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Re: [Elecraft] Quiescent current drain K3

2008-02-11 Thread Ian Stirling
On Monday 11 February 2008 05:33:09 pm Brett Howard wrote:

 Looks like the power switch is just a button from the 12V that is divided
 and dumped into one of the main PIC's so you're going to have the pic at
 least partially awake to be able to respond to that...  That's going to
 require a bit of sipping on the rail.

 Groan,

 Not a real power switch.
That's the way of everything these days it seems.
Back in 2001, I made a mechanical rotary to linear, FCC
part 15 radio controlled remote button pusher for my wife's
coffee maker because that blasted machine didn't have a real
power switch: had it, I could have just used an off-the-shelf
mains remote switch, moot now, because she has an esspresso
maker - coffee on demand. Every so often, I  have a cup.
 What were they thinking?  Long live the K2.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 if isolation of softrock lite used as panadapter

2008-02-11 Thread Jerry Flanders
I assume a simple MMIC amp plus a simple resistive attenuator circuit 
will provide enough isolation and also provide for matching levels 
up/down as may be necessary. At least, that will be my first cut at 
the problem unless somebody else comes up with a better plan before 
my K3 arrives.


At down east microwave ( http://www.downeastmicrowave.com/cat-frame.htm ),
see the 
http://literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5967-6159E.pdfINA10386 
(DC-2GHz, 24dBG, 3.5dB NF +14dbm 1dB Gain compression ) for only $5. 
Very easy to use something like this, I think.


Depending on the signal level of the K3 IF output, we might get 
enough isolation from  a resistive attenuator alone and still have a 
usable signal level on the softrock panadaptor.


I would much prefer a plug and play manufactured solution if it takes 
more than an attenuator, but not an expensive one.


Jerry W4UK


At 07:29 PM 2/11/2008, stephen pearce wrote:

A month or so ago one of the Elecraft engineers pointed out that
if the softrock lite rx is connected directly to the if port on the k3
there was a significant issue with coupling of rf from the softrock
board into the
rx if of the k# with consequent degradation in rx performance ...

Has anyone produced a design for a suitable isolation amplifier/
coupling stage which will
prevent this and still allow the softrock to be used (in conjunction
with a pc) as a panadapter?

Thanks


--
Stephen Pearce
zl1any
Whangarei
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[Elecraft] K1: Strange RIT behavior

2008-02-11 Thread MGFoster

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While operating on 40 meters I tried to turn on RIT - instead of turning
on, the menu displayed the Out menu item.  I had the Attenuator on, so
I turned that off, yet still the Out appeared on the menu when I tried
to turn on RIT.

Later, by experimentation, I discovered that when the ATU's sub-menu
Out is selected the RIT won't turn on.  If some other menu item is
selected the RIT will turn on.  Is this a feature, or have I crossed
wires somewhere?

Thanks,
--
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Oakland, CA (USA)
KI6OFN
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[Elecraft] VP6DX K3K3 on 160

2008-02-11 Thread Bill W4ZV

VP6DX just started on 160 with a true 599 signal.  I was their first QSO at
0344z for my #326 on Topband.  K3 Mojo Rules!

73,  Bill  W4ZV
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RE: [Elecraft] K2 and data modes

2008-02-11 Thread Gary Hvizdak
On Mon 11 Feb 2008 at 21:36:02 EST Jim Miller (AB3CV) wrote ...

Is there something that normally plugs into J5?  Or is it still a future 
use header?

Jim,

Nothing plugs into J5 yet.

73,
Gary  KI4GGX

P.S.  Also check out the link entitled Add Fixed Audio Out to the K2 at
http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com/index.htm (it's at the bottom of the list).

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[Elecraft] K3 #338 - Alive and well

2008-02-11 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Hi all,

Just a couple of notes on my build of K3 #338.

Here are some pics and notes on my web site:
http://w8fgu.home.comcast.net/~w8fgu/k3build.html

It arrived here on 2/6 and was built in about 9 hours on 2/8. I did a
thorough inventory and was only a couple of 1/4 black pan head screws
short. I substituted a couple of 3/16 screws until replacements arrive
(they were on one of the panels). The packaging of this thing was amazing
and very well organized IMHO. The documentation (Ron) was outstanding -
anytime I wasn't clear on what I read, there was always a good picture or
illustration to light the way. Like others have said, if you follow the
instructions to a tee, you cannot go wrong. It really went together quickly
and was a pleasure to assemble.

I found it interesting that all of the talk around this radio has been
mostly performance spec related (as well it should be), but I found the
mechanical engineering equally as impressive. There are some really tight
tolerances on this radio and when it is assembled, it really shows through.
I did have some difficulty with placing the front panel PCB on the front
panel itself. The two small led's over the power control were slightly bent
to the left. I carefully moved them back in place and all mounted well.

I only had a couple of problems - and both were my fault. I torque'd down
one of the jack screws for the RS232 connector snapping it off. I was able
to remove the KIO3 board and remove the rest of the screw. Fortunately, I
had another one lying around to replace it.

The second was a little stranger. All calibration went as expected, but I
noticed when playing around with the radio that when I adjusted the power
level from 12 to 13 watts (when the relay to engage the KPA3 would kick in),
I would hear a noticeable drop in signal level and see a 4 - S-unit drop on
the meter.

I pulled the KPA3 module and began to inspect it when I noticed that I had
crushed Q9 near the plug in connectors while placing it on the KPA3IO board.
What was worse is that just days prior, Larry Phipps, N8LP, had just told me
to watch out for that very thing in an email. In my case, the leads were all
shorted together, but it was still intact. So, I carefully bent it back to a
somewhat normal position and it seems to work just fine. I ordered a new one
from Elecraft and will replace it when I receive one.

Yesterday, after playing around with the receiver for a little while, I
wanted to see if I could make a contact. I usually like to hang around the
slow cw portions of 40m, but with the WPX contest going, I opted to try it
out on 30m. I called cq just a couple of times and worked WB0YRM, John, in
Longmont, CO with 50 watts and received a nice signal report. I felt kind of
bad, because I was not totally attentive to our QSO, playing around with all
of the nice features on the K3. With an unfamiliar radio, it is real easy to
make the other ops signal disappear ;-)

Just playing around with the DSP noise blanker and noise reduction settings,
I'm amazed at what I can get rid of compared to my K2. I've only just begun
to scratch the surface of what I can do with this thing and I look forward
to all of the firmware upgrades.

Speaking of firmware upgrades, after downloading the upgrade utility, it
downloaded and upgraded my K3 without a hitch. Nice job on that utility. 

The RX equalizer is a nice touch as well. I thought that my K3, through some
computer speakers, sounded a little thin compared to my K2. I adjusted the
equalizer while listening to an AM broadcast station and everything else
sounds great to me now. 

Back to playing some more tomorrow.

73,
Dave W8FGU
K2 #5099
K3 #338 - KAT3, KPA3, KBPF3.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 if isolation of softrock lite used as panadapter

2008-02-11 Thread Jack Smith
Thanks - the post was actually captioned 2nd Run on Z1 Buffer 
Amplifier.


For the K3, the universal model of the Z1 would be usable and will 
provide around 70 dB isolation, which, when combined with the isolation 
in the K3's internal source follower IF buffer pick-off amplifier should 
be enough to let a Softrock receiver work without interference to the K3.


I've delayed receipt of my K3 until the 2nd receiver issues are sorted 
out, so I can't run tests, but based on the numbers involved (Softrock 
local oscillator output around -40 dBm if my memory is correct) the 
Z1 and K3 internal isolation in  tandem should be adequate.


A related issue is whether it is necessary/desirable to interpose a 
bandpass filter between the K3's IF output and the Softrock receiver 
input. There's a lot of stuff that comes out the K3's IF output port, 
signals from internal oscillators, etc. I don't have an opinion on 
whether a 300 or 400 KHz wide bandpass filter will be necessary or not. 
Again, that requires some measurements that I can not perform until my 
K3 arrives. Since the Softrock works with an antenna connected to it, I 
suspect that additional filtering won't be required, but it would be 
nice to verify my suspiscion.


I also have a connectorized version of the buffer amplifier, but had not 
decided whether to make it available or not. I use them around my shop 
when I need extra amplification for a particular project.


Jack K8ZOA


rkayakr wrote:

Stephen

Please comment by Jack Smith K8ZOA on Z1 interface in topic K3 SSB
Strange Behavior.

  Bob
KD8CGH
  

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3: shipping status

2008-02-11 Thread Mike B
Oh, man, now I've gone and created a cross-continent incident.  I wasn't worried 
about the KXV3, as I knew I'd get it one way or another.  My remark was based on 
a private email I had with another soon-to-be K3 owner who was also missing the 
transverter interface from his initial invoice.  My incorrect speculation wasn't 
meant to stir anything up, I assure you.


Many thanks to the entire crew at Aptos.  I built my sub-200 serial number K2 
back in the summer of '99, and ran an Elecraft table at hamfests for a couple of 
years in Idaho.  I hope to finally meet some of the staff at (my first ever) 
Dayton visit this year.


Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

Mike,

We are absolutely shipping KXV3s.


73,

Mike
KW1ND
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[Elecraft] [K3] 6m power regulation

2008-02-11 Thread Dave G4AON

Ron

It's a known issue. Mine is the same.

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80


On all bands (except 6m) I can increase the power up to 12.0W in steps of
100mW. With KPA3 on Bypass (probably the same without the PA) that's the
top end (firmware controlled as expected). With the KPA3 on Normal the
amplifier kicks in just over 12W (relais clicks, RF scale changes) and the
display jumps to 13W. Nothing strange so far.
On 6m however the maximum power with KPA3 on Bypass is 8W (probably due
to limitations of the LPA). With the KPA3 on Normal the amplifier kicks
in just over 8W and the display jumps to 13W. No possible setting between
8W and 13W. This is the strange bit.
SNIP
PE8E, Ron.
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and data modes

2008-02-11 Thread rkayakr

Nick
  The easiest connection is a line from J5 to an 1/8 audio socket on the
rear panel. This is how my k2 is set up to work with the Microham
MicroKeyer.
 Bob
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[Elecraft] Dayton 2008

2008-02-11 Thread Richard Kent
I realize that this question will irritate a few folks waiting on their K3s.
I will apologize in advance. I was wondering if Elecraft is planning to be
at Dayton Hamvention. I have not been to Dayton this century and was looking
for excuses to go. After all, I think that I am the only Elecrafter left
that has not seen a K3 in person. 

 

Richard Kent WD8AJG K2 5296, K2 5996(almost)

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3: shipping status

2008-02-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
I'm typing too fast today... (Also jet lagged after a 20 hour day 
working the Orlando Hamfext and flying home late last night.)


I meant to say Lisa just told me... ;-)

73, Eric


Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
One more note - Lisa just tolds me she -did- receive your correction 
email and has not had time to reply  today. She can receive over a 
hundred emails daily, so it sometimes takes a day or two for her to 
reply. (Especially on Mondays after the weekend flood of emails ;-)


73, Eric  WA6HHQ



Mike B wrote:
Perhaps it's bad netiquette to answer your own topic posts, but just 
to add an additional data point:  I received the coveted Your K3 
should ship in 5-9 days email from Lisa very late last night.  I 
ordered 6 June.  My invoice was also missing the KXV3, as another 
list member commented, so possibly Elecraft is holding back on those 
doing some rework.


After this wait, it's kind of like hearing, Yes, Virginia, there is 
a Santa Claus.


Mike B wrote:
Not to drag up more ill feelings, but where is Elecraft at in the 
last few days as far as order dates being ready to ship?



73,

Mike
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[Elecraft] [K3] 6m power regulation

2008-02-11 Thread Ron - PE8E

When playing around with the K3 (or should I say: during operational
education) I noticed something that haven't read or seen mentioned
anywhere.

On all bands (except 6m) I can increase the power up to 12.0W in steps of
100mW. With KPA3 on Bypass (probably the same without the PA) that's the
top end (firmware controlled as expected). With the KPA3 on Normal the
amplifier kicks in just over 12W (relais clicks, RF scale changes) and the
display jumps to 13W. Nothing strange so far.
On 6m however the maximum power with KPA3 on Bypass is 8W (probably due
to limitations of the LPA). With the KPA3 on Normal the amplifier kicks
in just over 8W and the display jumps to 13W. No possible setting between
8W and 13W. This is the strange bit.
At the moment I do not have a accurate powermeter on hand, so I didn't
measure the output, just looked at the display.

Not a priority issue, maybe a documented fact that I overlooked, but it
would be nice to know if this behaviour is present on all K3's (possible
technical limitation of LPA and/or firmware issue) or just on mine
(possible hardware error or calibration issue)?

Maybe this is also one of to be changed items on the famous firmware-list?

PE8E, Ron.

K3 #00201 (incl. KPA3,KAT3,KXV3,various filters)
Firmware: MCU 1.66 DSP 1.52


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3: shipping status

2008-02-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
One more note - Lisa just tolds me she -did- receive your correction 
email and has not had time to reply  today. She can receive over a 
hundred emails daily, so it sometimes takes a day or two for her to 
reply. (Especially on Mondays after the weekend flood of emails ;-)


73, Eric  WA6HHQ



Mike B wrote:
Perhaps it's bad netiquette to answer your own topic posts, but just 
to add an additional data point:  I received the coveted Your K3 
should ship in 5-9 days email from Lisa very late last night.  I 
ordered 6 June.  My invoice was also missing the KXV3, as another list 
member commented, so possibly Elecraft is holding back on those doing 
some rework.


After this wait, it's kind of like hearing, Yes, Virginia, there is a 
Santa Claus.


Mike B wrote:
Not to drag up more ill feelings, but where is Elecraft at in the 
last few days as far as order dates being ready to ship?



73,

Mike
KW1ND
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3: shipping status

2008-02-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Mike,

We are absolutely shipping KXV3s. The reason we include the invoice with 
our confirmation message is to have you check it and let us know if 
there are corrections or changes.


Please contact lisa at [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately if anything is 
incorrect or if anything needs changing.  We want to make sure your 
order is 100% correct. :-)


We will not ship until we get a reply to our confirmation request email 
from each customer.


73, Eric   WA6HHQ



Mike B wrote:
Perhaps it's bad netiquette to answer your own topic posts, but just 
to add an additional data point:  I received the coveted Your K3 
should ship in 5-9 days email from Lisa very late last night.  I 
ordered 6 June.  My invoice was also missing the KXV3, as another list 
member commented, so possibly Elecraft is holding back on those doing 
some rework.


After this wait, it's kind of like hearing, Yes, Virginia, there is a 
Santa Claus.


Mike B wrote:
Not to drag up more ill feelings, but where is Elecraft at in the 
last few days as far as order dates being ready to ship?



73,

Mike
KW1ND
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[Elecraft] K2 and PTT problem

2008-02-11 Thread Mike, W9QS
I recently installed the SSB board in my K2.  The
board functions fine in VOX but i cannot get the PTT
function to work.  I'm using an ICOM HM36 mic and
followed the recommended wiring for it.  (PTT to pin
5)  The PTT switch in the mic is fine.  Even without
the mic connected if I ground pin 5 I still do not get
the PTT function.  Am I missing something?

I am very pleased with the results so far.  I worked
several PA in the contest this weekend on 20.



73,72

Mike, W9QS
EX: KN6TBP (1956), K1DGQ, DL4KM, K5LJN, W9FRR, W9KVF

K2, OHR500, OHR100A, SP1


  

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Re: [Elecraft] Quiescent current drain K3

2008-02-11 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
21mA


On 11/2/08 11:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 Hi
 Has anyone measured the current drain on their K3 when it is
 Off ? 
 
 I have measured 7mA.
 
 Is this typical ?
 
 
 Bob ZD8RH
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[Elecraft] Quiescent current drain K3

2008-02-11 Thread bobatbay
Hi
Has anyone measured the current drain on their K3 when it is 
Off ? 

I have measured 7mA.

Is this typical ? 


Bob ZD8RH
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[Elecraft] 2nd Run on Z10000 Buffer Amplifiers?

2008-02-11 Thread Jack Smith
I'm contemplating a second kit run on the Z1 IF sample buffer 
amplifier, and I'm interested in whether there is any interest in a 
second run.


For the unfamiliar, the Z1 kit is a small PCB that pulls an isolated 
sample of the K2's IF signal out and makes it available on an SMA 
connector installed on the K2's rear panel. There's a great deal more 
information on it that can be obtained by reading the manual at 
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/Documents/Z1%20Buffer%20Amplifier%20Assembly%20%20Operation.pdf. 
Also, http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/k2_interface.htm provides more 
details.


My thought is that with the increasing interest in using a Softrock 
receiver as a K2 panadapter, there needs to be a way to extract the IF  
signal and to prevent the Softrock's nasty local oscillator signal 
(around -40 dBm or stronger) from getting back into the K2. That's 
exactly the purpose for which the Z1 was built.


The original Z1 price was subsidized by the associated Z90 
panadapter, which will not be the case on a second run. Hence, there 
will be a price increase to $34.95. If I go ahead with the second run, 
this price will include the PCB, all parts, a cable with the miniature 
coaxial cable and SMA connector installed and a printed copy of the 
assembly and operation manual, and postage within the US. If sufficient 
interest is found, I would make the second run available beginning in 
mid-to-late April.


The kit can be built either in the K2 version (which includes bandpass 
shaped response) or the broadband version, suitable for receivers with a 
different IF. Price is the same, but the universal and K2-specific kits 
will be different products.


Please respond privately to me.

Jack K8ZOA

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and data modes

2008-02-11 Thread Jim Miller
is there something that normally plugs into j5? or is it still a future 
use header?

i'm tiptoeing my way toward some psk31 on my k2.

tnx
jim ab3cv

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[Elecraft] K3: Interim Build Report

2008-02-11 Thread Joe N9VX

Dave, 

Your statement: 'Several reports are surfacing here and elsewhere 
from very reputable sources about the current lack of SSB bandwidth'. 
Could you give more information on your statement above. I have not heard of 
any SSB bandwidth problem and would like to here the details. 


Thanks and 73, 

Joe N9VX 
K3 S/N waiting

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Dave wrote:
Hi Everyone,
As I posted here at mid week, K3 #371 arrived from Aptos in fine shape. 
I have begun the build and thought I would share some comments both 
positive and negative with all. You opinions of course will most likely 
be different but here are mine so far:
Positive:
The kit was packaged magnificently. The care in packaging is first rate. 
The manual is by far one of the most comprehensive I have seen in 
building many kits over the years. Clear, concise and detailed but very 
logical and easy to follow. Build quality of the boards is indeed 
elegant. Fit and finish is simply excellent. Tolerances are amazing. 
It is a work of engineering art. Congrats to Eric and Wayne of all of 
this. They should be proud of their baby.
Negative:
Yup I have a negative. Of all of the kits I have built over the years, 
many of them fairly complex, from Heath, LDG, W9GR and many others, this 
is the first to arrive short parts/hardware. And while the shortage is 
minor, it is specialized and significant enough to stop me cold in the 
build process and add yet another week to the final K3 experience. 
Simply put, it has been deflating. Yet more delay. While Elecraft was 
attentive to this matter over the phone and in a response from 
K3Support, I am still not sure if the parts are headed this way as no 
confirmation has been positively received. This will be my last kit 
experience. I should have bought it factory assembled as I planned 
originally. But I bought into the kit mystique. Never again.
Concerns:
I am both a CW and SSB operator as non-contesting DX'er. SSB TX issues 
are important to me. Several reports are surfacing here and elsewhere 
from very reputable sources about the current lack of SSB bandwidth and 
the lack of more powerful modulation. I urge Elecraft to address these 
issues ASAP (now perhaps with more priority than the second receiver.) 
This will be a deal breaker for me if not rectified. IMO it should have 
been correct out of the box. This K3 will be evaluated against my highly 
modified Ten Tec Omni V.9 which has for my operating requirements beat 
out every transceiver on both CW and SSB since its arrival here at this 
QTH, bar none, including my Pro III which for all its true Rx warts is a 
pretty darn good value for the $$.
I paid my $$ and took my chances and hope that this will all get 
rectified in the end. And for those of you who may think that I should 
not air complaints in public, I ask, did yours arrive complete?
My $.02
73 de N1LQ-Dave

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RE: [Elecraft] K2 on order

2008-02-11 Thread Robert Lupo
You will love that radio!! I got mine in October. Worked on it weekends
only.

Completed the K2, 160m kit, SSB kit, and 99% of the 100W kit in 6 days.

And it worked the first time!!!

It is by far my favorite radio.

You will have fun


73's
KG6SKA





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DW Holtman
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 5:31 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K2 on order

Hello,

This morning, I ordered a K2. I figured it would take a few days to
process 
the order, pack the box etc. I received an E-Mail a while ago, it has 
already been shipped. It should be here Wednesday. The UPS delivery date
is 
not yet available, but normally from California to Utah is normally two 
days.

The next week or so, will be fun. I love building stuff!!

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

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[Elecraft] K3 Lisagram

2008-02-11 Thread Norm Duxbury
Just received a Lisagram that my K3 (ordered 6 June 07) will ship in 5-7 
days.  Also, Saturday had a pleasant and informative meeting with Eric at the 
Elecraft display at the Orlando Hamcation.  Nice weekend.

Norm, W1MO
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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[Elecraft] K3 RTTY WPX

2008-02-11 Thread Geoff Cottrell

But if I send my call say 2 x, apparently there is no space
between calls (e.g. G3XGCG3XGC, rather than G3XGC G3XGC etc...).  
Anyone

know what the spacing character is?
73
Geoff G3XGC
K3 225


This was fixed in a later revision of the firmware.  Update your K3  
and the

spaces will be transmitted properly.

73,
Ed - P49X (W0YK)

Thanks Ed - I have the latest version. What was happening was that I  
was sending my call 2x from the CW memory (no spaces) but the serial  
no. by hand (with spaces). Looks like the latter method worked OK (but  
not the former) according to on-air report from M0DDT. The spaceless  
callsign confused his MMTTY software!


In future I will make sure I leave appropriate spaces when sending my  
call from memory


73

Geoff Cottrell G3XGC

K2, K3 (S/N 225)
G-QRP 12155
RSGB; ARRL






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[Elecraft] K3: music to my ears

2008-02-11 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Just installed the latest version of everything software.  A.
The CW is now wonderful (the choppiness is gone).

And just in time for the ARRL DX CW.

THANK YOU
THANK YOU
THANK YOU

de Doug KR2Q
K3 295
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Re: [Elecraft] Quiescent current drain K3

2008-02-11 Thread David Pratt

ZD8RH de G4DMP
In a recent message, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...

Has anyone measured the current drain on their K3 when it is
Off ?

I have measured 7mA.

Is this typical ?


The stand-by current of the K3 varies considerably depending on how long 
the power has been disconnected before the measurement is made.


I measured the current of my K3 after the power had been disconnected 
for about six hours and the current was 15mA as measured on a good 
quality moving-coil (d'Arsonval) type of meter. Having used my K3 and 
then switched off, the current was 65mA and then reduced slowly.


I can only assume that the variation is due to internal circuits 
(capacitors, etc) being recharged after the POWER button switches the K3 
off.


73
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Leeds, UK
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[Elecraft] K3 if isolation of softrock lite used as panadapter

2008-02-11 Thread stephen pearce
A month or so ago one of the Elecraft engineers pointed out that
if the softrock lite rx is connected directly to the if port on the k3
there was a significant issue with coupling of rf from the softrock
board into the
rx if of the k# with consequent degradation in rx performance ...

Has anyone produced a design for a suitable isolation amplifier/
coupling stage which will
prevent this and still allow the softrock to be used (in conjunction
with a pc) as a panadapter?

Thanks


-- 
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zl1any
Whangarei
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: KBPF3 and KFL3A-6K

2008-02-11 Thread AJSOENKE
In a message dated 2/11/2008 8:35:24 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Roger, I have been lobbying  from the sidelines that
when the (not yet available) FM filter is ready  that
it should be usable for AM and FM reception both,
because 5 khz is  not enough IMO. SSB reception through
this filter also makes sense to me.  

At present, if you don't have the AM 5khz filter, the
2.7 khz filter  is used on receive and there is no AM
transmit. 

The FM filter is  supposed to be ready by the end of
this week, don't know if it will be or if  the firmware
is ready for FM, my cat control program cannot set the
FM  mode yet.

All of these are fine tuning details, the radio  is
absolutely worthy of getting serious  about!!!




[Elecraft] K3: KBPF3 and KFL3A-6K
Roger Marrotte  rmarrotte at verizon.net 
Mon Feb 11 20:38:21 EST 2008 

I'm finally  getting serious about buying a K3.  Up
until now I have not paid much  attention to all the
details, especially those concerning  the
filters.  For now I'll not get the 2nd RX.  It's  not
available yet, so
maybe I'll get it later on. I'll get a couple of  CW
filters for now. I do
mostly CW.  I'll get a narrow 1.8KHz SSB  filter.  I do
get on SSB sometimes.
I sometimes like to listen to AM  but will probably
never transmit on AM.
I've read the archives but I'm  still not absolutely
clear about the need for
the KFL3A-6K filter in  addition to the KBPF3 filter
for AM listening.  I see
the need for  the KBPF3 for AM listening outside the
ham bands.  What will
the  KFL3A-6K filter do for a casual AM listener?  Will
there be a  noticeable
narrowing of the AM signal without it?  If the AM  will
sound better and/or
be better filtered with it, I might as well get  it. 
I'm cheap but not that
cheap.

Roger, W1EM

+++
 
I believe the only real issue with the FM filter in AM mode is in  
transmitting and risking out of bandwidth transmission. The DSP would need to  
hold the 
AM XMIT to the legal limit if the XTAL filter doesn't.
 
Al WA6VNN



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Re: [Elecraft] Topband RF feedback problem

2008-02-11 Thread Barry N1EU

Yes, Stewart asks a good question.  As I reported previously, I had to
install an ICE 196 RF Limiter in the Beverage feedline to prevent my Acom
from generating ArcFault errors on 160M. 

73,
Barry N1EU



Stewart G3RXQ wrote:
 
 Are you using a separate RX antenna ? There is a recognised issue
 with the KXV3 and insufficient isolation  that can give rise to
 spurious oscillations.
 
 73
 Stewart G3RXQ
 On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:43:55 +0100, Björn Mohr wrote:
 I had my first weekend with the new K3 and bumped into a strange
 problem. It
 actually took me a while to figure out what was going on. When
 keying up
 with the amplifier in line on 160 I was not able to run more
 than 400 watts
 before the SWR protection in both the amp and SWR meter kicked
 in, it all
 happened in milliseconds as if arcing was going on somewhere. I
 thought I
 had an antenna problem and went through the system without
 finding anything
 strange. After some time I hooked up my MP and all was fine
 again, running
 full power without a problem. That's when it hit me - RF
 feedback had to be
 throwing my K3 off frequency and therefore tripping SWR
 protection and the
 alarm.

 My setup has been working fine with the MP for over a year,
 never seen a
 problem like this. A common mode choke is in line with the TX
 antenna and
 most of the wiring used with the MP was used for the K3 except
 that power
 where fetched from my 12 volt bus. The MP is a field model and
 gets its
 power straight from the mains, same phase as the 12 volt bus.

 I would be interested to hear if anyone else had similar
 problems and found
 a good solution.

 73 de Björn /SM0MDG


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Re: [Elecraft] Dayton 2008

2008-02-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Yes, We'll absolutely be there. :-)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
(Barely awake - Just back from the Orlando, FL, Hamfest.)


Richard Kent wrote:

I realize that this question will irritate a few folks waiting on their K3s.
I will apologize in advance. I was wondering if Elecraft is planning to be
at Dayton Hamvention. I have not been to Dayton this century and was looking
for excuses to go. After all, I think that I am the only Elecrafter left
that has not seen a K3 in person. 


Richard Kent WD8AJG K2 5296, K2 5996(almost)

  

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[Elecraft] K3: KBPF3 and KFL3A-6K

2008-02-11 Thread Roger Marrotte
I'm finally getting serious about buying a K3.  Up until now I have not paid
much attention to all the details, especially those concerning the
filters.  For now I'll not get the 2nd RX.  It's not available yet, so
maybe I'll get it later on. I'll get a couple of CW filters for now. I do
mostly CW.  I'll get a narrow 1.8KHz SSB filter.  I do get on SSB sometimes.
I sometimes like to listen to AM but will probably never transmit on AM.
I've read the archives but I'm still not absolutely clear about the need for
the KFL3A-6K filter in addition to the KBPF3 filter for AM listening.  I see
the need for the KBPF3 for AM listening outside the ham bands.  What will
the KFL3A-6K filter do for a casual AM listener?  Will there be a noticeable
narrowing of the AM signal without it?  If the AM will sound better and/or
be better filtered with it, I might as well get it.  I'm cheap but not that
cheap.
 
Roger, W1EM
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Re: [Elecraft] Topband RF feedback problem

2008-02-11 Thread Stewart Baker
Are you using a separate RX antenna ? There is a recognised issue
with the KXV3 and insufficient isolation  that can give rise to
spurious oscillations.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:43:55 +0100, Björn Mohr wrote:
 I had my first weekend with the new K3 and bumped into a strange
problem. It
 actually took me a while to figure out what was going on. When
keying up
 with the amplifier in line on 160 I was not able to run more
than 400 watts
 before the SWR protection in both the amp and SWR meter kicked
in, it all
 happened in milliseconds as if arcing was going on somewhere. I
thought I
 had an antenna problem and went through the system without
finding anything
 strange. After some time I hooked up my MP and all was fine
again, running
 full power without a problem. That's when it hit me - RF
feedback had to be
 throwing my K3 off frequency and therefore tripping SWR
protection and the
 alarm.

 My setup has been working fine with the MP for over a year,
never seen a
 problem like this. A common mode choke is in line with the TX
antenna and
 most of the wiring used with the MP was used for the K3 except
that power
 where fetched from my 12 volt bus. The MP is a field model and
gets its
 power straight from the mains, same phase as the 12 volt bus.

 I would be interested to hear if anyone else had similar
problems and found
 a good solution.

 73 de Björn /SM0MDG


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[Elecraft] K2. Troubles with N1MM contest program.

2008-02-11 Thread Alexander Ponomarenko

Hello!
There is forwarded letter from my friend:

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:07:44 +0200, Oleg V. Borodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


===
Dear K2-users!
Does anybody using K2/100 with control programm N1MM?
 I'm worry for periodical characters hum, arising at AGC IF circuit (~
 150 kHz). There are not hum when AGC turn-off. Also, nothing of hum
 with another control programms. Please, reply private
 because I'm not discussion group user - rv3gm (at) mail.ru
 Thanks in advance! 72 from Oleg RV3GM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB transmit passband, compression, etc.

2008-02-11 Thread dj7mgq

Essential pool-side reading: 'Speech Processing for SSB Transmitters'
by Leif Asbrink, SM5BSZ (creator of Linrad)
http://www.sm5bsz.com/dynrange/dubus405/dubus405.htm


Don't forget

http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/tx/voicelab.htm
http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/tx/ssb/spproc236.htm
http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/tx/ssb/abc1.wav
http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/tx/ssb/abc2.wav

vy 73 de toby

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and data modes

2008-02-11 Thread Tom Hammond

Nick:

Wiring up my K2 for data modes - recall seeing a post from someone 
who had done an easy mod to get audio out (i.e. line out) which is 
not affected by the AF gain control. Have looked through the 
archives in vain - can anyone help please?

73 Nick G3RWF


That was Don Wilhelm, W3FPR.  Don WAS selling a fixed-output audio device which
he'd designed and for which I'd laid out the PCB design. See:

   http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com/K2_Fixed_Audio_Output.htm

Just got a note from Don yesterday that he's sold the LAST(!) of his PC boards
and is NOT planning on ordering more for resale.

During the time that Don was selling this device, he went from suggesting that
it be installed on the left side panel of the K2 (see bottom image on the link
above), to installing it between the FP and CTRL PC boards. See:

  http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com/download_files/FP-CB%20mounting%20photos.pdf

Moving from the original installation point to the second site requires that
all components be laid down flat against the PC board (e.g. low-profile), which
the original PC board design did NOT accommodate terribly well.

As I type this reply, I am _IN_ the process of redesigning the PC board layout
to more readily accommodate standard components laid flat against the board.

I have not yet decided whether to actually offer this PC board for sale 'in
quantity' or to just make a few (in the kitchen) and then offer them on a
per order basis.  If demand was higher (I think Don pretty much answered most
 of the screaming demand for this device), I'd have a 'batch' run off at FAR
Circuits, but this may not be the case.

Regardless, it appears that new boards will be available very soon... probably
within a week or two.  If you'd like to obtain a board, please contact me. I
will be happy to send you a PDF of the new board layout if you are interested.
First, visit Don't links (above) to see what is required for the installation.

Cheers,

Tom HammondN0SS

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[Elecraft] K2 on order

2008-02-11 Thread DW Holtman

Hello,

This morning, I ordered a K2. I figured it would take a few days to process 
the order, pack the box etc. I received an E-Mail a while ago, it has 
already been shipped. It should be here Wednesday. The UPS delivery date is 
not yet available, but normally from California to Utah is normally two 
days.


The next week or so, will be fun. I love building stuff!!

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

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RE: [Elecraft] Dayton 2008

2008-02-11 Thread Bill Johnson
I have not seen one either Just ordered one.


72,

Bill 

K9YEQ
K2 #35, K2 # 5279, KX1 #35, Mini Modules, etc.  



-Original Message-

will apologize in advance. I was wondering if Elecraft is planning to be
 at Dayton Hamvention. I have not been to Dayton this century and was
looking
 for excuses to go. After all, I think that I am the only Elecrafter left
 that has not seen a K3 in person. 

 Richard Kent WD8AJG K2 5296, K2 5996(almost)

   
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[Elecraft] K3: KBPF3 and KFL3A-6K

2008-02-11 Thread Don Rasmussen
Roger, I have been lobbying from the sidelines that
when the (not yet available) FM filter is ready that
it should be usable for AM and FM reception both,
because 5 khz is not enough IMO. SSB reception through
this filter also makes sense to me. 

At present, if you don't have the AM 5khz filter, the
2.7 khz filter is used on receive and there is no AM
transmit. 

The FM filter is supposed to be ready by the end of
this week, don't know if it will be or if the firmware
is ready for FM, my cat control program cannot set the
FM mode yet.

All of these are fine tuning details, the radio is
absolutely worthy of getting serious about!!!




[Elecraft] K3: KBPF3 and KFL3A-6K
Roger Marrotte rmarrotte at verizon.net 
Mon Feb 11 20:38:21 EST 2008 

I'm finally getting serious about buying a K3.  Up
until now I have not paid much attention to all the
details, especially those concerning the
filters.  For now I'll not get the 2nd RX.  It's not
available yet, so
maybe I'll get it later on. I'll get a couple of CW
filters for now. I do
mostly CW.  I'll get a narrow 1.8KHz SSB filter.  I do
get on SSB sometimes.
I sometimes like to listen to AM but will probably
never transmit on AM.
I've read the archives but I'm still not absolutely
clear about the need for
the KFL3A-6K filter in addition to the KBPF3 filter
for AM listening.  I see
the need for the KBPF3 for AM listening outside the
ham bands.  What will
the KFL3A-6K filter do for a casual AM listener?  Will
there be a noticeable
narrowing of the AM signal without it?  If the AM will
sound better and/or
be better filtered with it, I might as well get it. 
I'm cheap but not that
cheap.
 
Roger, W1EM


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[Elecraft] Quiescent current drain K3

2008-02-11 Thread Don Rasmussen
Have mine on an AC strip - off is OFF. Noted no ill
effects from the K3 to date. ;-)

[Elecraft] Quiescent current drain K3
Ian Stirling g4icv at arrl.net 
Mon Feb 11 23:50:57 EST 2008 

Previous message: [Elecraft] Quiescent current drain
K3 


On Monday 11 February 2008 05:33:09 pm Brett Howard
wrote:

 Looks like the power switch is just a button from
the 12V that is divided
 and dumped into one of the main PIC's so you're
going to have the pic at
 least partially awake to be able to respond to
that...  That's going to
 require a bit of sipping on the rail.

 Groan,


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