Re: [Elecraft] There's a new K1 on the block!
snip SN 2760 lives !! snip Congratulations Gary! The K1 is a fine rig and I thoroughly enjoy mine, SN 2294. My version of this 'classic' rig is 4-band (40, 30, 30 and 15m) with internal auto-tuner and external Li-Po power and Buddistick antenna. A magic combination on 30m, my favourite band. Enjoy the QRP DX ! kind regards Steve M0ECS Sittingbourne, England. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
Unfortunately the K3 firmware seems to have wandered off track a bit, two years ago when the K3 started rolling out the following were on the to do list and formed part of the specification: 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration Synchronous AM These might not be the most important issues in the world, but were included in the original specification and are in the Oct 24th 2007 B1 manual. Currently the K3 fails to meet specification! Can we have some indication of their position on the firmware roadmap? 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 09:58 +0100, Dave G4AON wrote: Unfortunately the K3 firmware seems to have wandered off track a bit, two years ago when the K3 started rolling out the following were on the to do list and formed part of the specification: 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration If you look at the sheet that came with your TCXO you might notice that it does a good deal better than 0.5ppm without any calibration over the temperature range that your radio goes through during operation. The TCXO in my k3 is better than 0.5ppm over the temp range -10C to +50C. My Front panel temp as measured by the K3 is always around 37-40 C and does not vary much you mileage may vary but the K3 with the TCXO already comfortably exceeds 0.5ppm without the additional calibration. (which is coming.) Therefore the K3 does not 'fail' to meet the 0.5ppm spec at present Synchronous AM There are a number of things such as Diversity mode that were not in the original specification that I would consider much more important than Sync AM. I am reasonably sure that the sync AM will come and when it does it will work properly. Sync AM might be nice to have but it's current absence is hardly a show stopper, especially when the radio is more than stable enough to accurately tune AM signals in SSB mode. -- 73 Brendan EI6IZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
D J wrote: Unfortunately the K3 firmware seems to have wandered off track a bit, two years ago when the K3 started rolling out the following were on the to do list and formed part of the specification: 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration Synchronous AM These might not be the most important issues in the world, but were included in the original specification and are in the Oct 24th 2007 B1 manual. Currently the K3 fails to meet specification! Can we have some indication of their position on the firmware roadmap? You've been reading my blog, Dave! Or the review I posted yesterday on eHam. Whilst I agree with what you say, I think there are two other issues that need to be addressed which relate to the K3 not working in a way that users would expect (the way every other competitive radio does) which for some people may be considered even more important. One is the simple - from the user's perspective, I appreciate not so simple for the firmware developer - matter of disabling equalization when DATA mode is used. I've been browsing online manuals of radios from Yaesu, Kenwood and Icom and they all do that. Until the K3 also does, those of us who use data modes a lot will continue to have to leave equalization flat unless we want to fiddle about setting / unsetting it whenever we change modes. The other issue is the way the memories work, which I believe that anyone using the K3 for FM - as I expect more people will want to do when XV144's get out in the field - will consider to be not good enough. The channel hopping memories were a lame step in the right direction but their major flaw is that they only load the receive frequency into the VFO. This is fine for scanning, but if you have a mixture of simplex and repeater channels in memories with different access tones you can't just press PTT and reply to the signal you heard while scanning because the repeater shift and access tone associated with the memory you're listening to have not been loaded, so you may well be transmitting on the wrong frequency and/or with the wrong access tone. Once all these issues have been addressed I believe that the K3 may finally be able to lay claim to being the class-leading radio that we all hoped it would be. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-2-years-on-and-still-much-to-do-tp3674523p3674724.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Strange sound
I've never seen this situation written about but I've just come across a very strange sound on my K3 - S/N-1068. With the dial on 29.492.6 USB I get a continuous CW sounding signal. It alternates a dot, then a dash then a space. If it were truly CW is would be considered poorly sent CW and the speed is about 10- 12 WPM. The lengths of the characters are not exactly the same each time but it never stops. I discovered it yesterday and wanted to make sure it was not just a one time thing. I can switch modes and it remains. Removing the antenna does not stop it, actually makes it a little stronger with the noise level dropped. I'm using firmware 3.30 beta. I tried on the SUB receiver and I hear nothing. Hi Jim. I have a fairly weak birdie there (well v close), a solid carrier not 12 WPM CW. Can hear it on the subRX as well. Were you using the NR I wonder? It can sometimes make stuff sound like it's comin n goin. 73 Gary ZL2iFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do? I still dont own a K3. I just cant bring myself to buy the K3 because of its front panel layout and its operation. Although I would very much like its receiver performance. I have used one at a contest station and all that I can say is that I would not buy one until a new front panel layout is designed. The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Most of us are just not portable operators, so dont need small size 12 volt radios. There are many good radios that would be a good front panel design model for the K3a. The FT950, FT920, Icom 737series, TS850 etc all have a very workable ergonomic front panel layouts that are easy to use. The FT950 is so well layed out and very attractive and it would be a good one to copy for a new K3 front panel. If the K3 is so modular, why would it be so hard not to offer a bigger box with a new front panel? There are many off the shelf 19 inch rack boxes that could be used with a new front panel styling. I would suggest that a new K3 panel with built in P3, power supply and 200 watt PA stage would be a big hit. Everyone seems to be so over the moon with the K3's small size, I must be a freak with alien genes to not like the radios front panel layout and operational ergonomics. The firmware feature list or lack of progress I can live with. However a awkward panel layout and poor ergomics thats carved in rock I cant really live with. When I used the K3 all that I ever used was the band switch, volume and RIT control thats all, just like a Mil-spec radio. It was very hard to do otherwise, so I probably missed a lot of the K3's potential. I too live in hope that a new K4 is coming! I could even live with a K3 junior with one receiver and a new front panel design. John --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk wrote: From: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 1:58 AM Unfortunately the K3 firmware seems to have wandered off track a bit, two years ago when the K3 started rolling out the following were on the to do list and formed part of the specification: 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration Synchronous AM These might not be the most important issues in the world, but were included in the original specification and are in the Oct 24th 2007 B1 manual. Currently the K3 fails to meet specification! Can we have some indication of their position on the firmware roadmap? 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
Perhaps an external control pod might prove a help. I hate having to hold my hand across the keyboard and key to get to the memory push buttons. Yes I know one should use an external controller for the rig but this should not be necessary. Oh but I love the K3 but it needs a control pod. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen piezo Sent: 19 September 2009 11:42 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do? I still dont own a K3. I just cant bring myself to buy the K3 because of its front panel layout and its operation. Although I would very much like its receiver performance. I have used one at a contest station and all that I can say is that I would not buy one until a new front panel layout is designed. The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Most of us are just not portable operators, so dont need small size 12 volt radios. There are many good radios that would be a good front panel design model for the K3a. The FT950, FT920, Icom 737series, TS850 etc all have a very workable ergonomic front panel layouts that are easy to use. The FT950 is so well layed out and very attractive and it would be a good one to copy for a new K3 front panel. If the K3 is so modular, why would it be so hard not to offer a bigger box with a new front panel? There are many off the shelf 19 inch rack boxes that could be used with a new front panel styling. I would suggest that a new K3 panel with built in P3, power supply and 200 watt PA stage would be a big hit. Everyone seems to be so over the moon with the K3's small size, I must be a freak with alien genes to not like the radios front panel layout and operational ergonomics. The firmware feature list or lack of progress I can live with. However a awkward panel layout and poor ergomics thats carved in rock I cant really live with. When I used the K3 all that I ever used was the band switch, volume and RIT control thats all, just like a Mil-spec radio. It was very hard to do otherwise, so I probably missed a lot of the K3's potential. I too live in hope that a new K4 is coming! I could even live with a K3 junior with one receiver and a new front panel design. John --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk wrote: From: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 1:58 AM Unfortunately the K3 firmware seems to have wandered off track a bit, two years ago when the K3 started rolling out the following were on the to do list and formed part of the specification: 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration Synchronous AM These might not be the most important issues in the world, but were included in the original specification and are in the Oct 24th 2007 B1 manual. Currently the K3 fails to meet specification! Can we have some indication of their position on the firmware roadmap? 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Elecraft TNX AGN
I would like Elecraft to know that I appreciate the K3, improvements and support. It's not easy, very costly, and time consuming to provide quick support, upgrades and phone support at no cost. I left and sold my XXX tec because of lack of communication with it's user base. I'm an old ham that's lost the ability to build, but it nice to see a new firmware upgrade every now and then. It's called evolution. I feel that I am participating with hams, that have ventured out to create and test the radios of the future. Tnx agn Ted WP4CW PS: My first transmitter was a Hallicafters HT40, I was 13 years old. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
You can make some of the people happy some of the time... D J wrote: Unfortunately the K3 firmware seems to have wandered off track a bit, two years ago when the K3 started rolling out the following were on the to do list and formed part of the specification: 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration Synchronous AM These might not be the most important issues in the world, but were included in the original specification and are in the Oct 24th 2007 B1 manual. Currently the K3 fails to meet specification! Can we have some indication of their position on the firmware roadmap? 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-2-years-on-and-still-much-to-do-tp3674523p3675301.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 03.33 New Low Freq Beta, loud audio blast
I am testing the advanced beta with enhanced LF audio capability. I have not performed any hardware modifications to enhance LF performance. I have the beta hardware band pass filter installed. I like the fuller sounding audio. It is possible to shift the IF pass band too low such that can you lose opposite sideband suppression (CW). I am still experimenting with settings and can shift the IF pass band down partially for fuller sound and still have quite good opposite sideband suppression. So this just becomes a matter of optimizing what I hear in the headphones. I found a new desire to shift my side tone lower. I got one of those loud audio blasts, first one ever. I was on 40M CW mode 500 Hz filter on the main Rx; 2.7 KHz filter in the sub Rx. I was in diversity reception mode. I shifted bands down to the broadcast band to see what 13 KHz AM sounded like. I got a very loud sound blast in one ear (sub receiver). I have never experienced this phenomenon before. I can not repeat the problem. The sub receiver does not have a 13 KHz filter, just a 2.7. I normally turn the sub Rx off when I listen to wideband. Perhaps the filter switching got confused when I went to the broadcast band and there was a momentary time when the IF was being routed through a nonexistent filter slot. I am just speculating what might have happened. Mike Scott - AE6WA Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) NAQCC 3535 K3-100 #508 / KX1 #1311 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Strange sound
Not a peep with Ser. # 3162 Bob KB1FRW Gary Hinson wrote: I've never seen this situation written about but I've just come across a very strange sound on my K3 - S/N-1068. With the dial on 29.492.6 USB I get a continuous CW sounding signal. It alternates a dot, then a dash then a space. If it were truly CW is would be considered poorly sent CW and the speed is about 10- 12 WPM. The lengths of the characters are not exactly the same each time but it never stops. I discovered it yesterday and wanted to make sure it was not just a one time thing. I can switch modes and it remains. Removing the antenna does not stop it, actually makes it a little stronger with the noise level dropped. I'm using firmware 3.30 beta. I tried on the SUB receiver and I hear nothing. Hi Jim. I have a fairly weak birdie there (well v close), a solid carrier not 12 WPM CW. Can hear it on the subRX as well. Were you using the NR I wonder? It can sometimes make stuff sound like it's comin n goin. 73 Gary ZL2iFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Response - Version 3.33 Firmware
It sounds very nice on CW (and AM), even with my cheap headphones, which are not particularly bass responsive. It is a very pleasant extra dimension when tuning CW bands with wide open filter. It adds a lot to the sound. I wouldn't want to go back to the narrower sound. You can however hear a good bit more of a signal's opposite sideband when you tune through it with a wide filter and/or Shift set very low-- a couple hundred Hz or more on the opposite side for strong signals. I don't think that is a problem but some may complain. 73, Drew AF2Z On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:19:24 -0400, Steve N4LQ wrote: I've just been listening all evening with a big smile on my face :*) This is beautiful. Having the LF audio seems to make the entire spectrum sound better. Even QRN is more pleasant to listen to. Thanks Elecraft! What took so long? Why was bass chopped off in the first place? Steve N4LQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: Make Monitor level track AF level?
I don't bitch much, but get it to the top of the list. And on CW mode, multiply sidetone amplitude by the envelope of signals in the passband (Lyle knows about that) Bill - W7AAZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Response - Version 3.33 Firmware
Drew, Hearing a bit of the opposite sideband is a natural effect of using a very low Shift/Lo-Cut setting. No matter how straight sided the DSP filter may be, it does have a finite slope to it (if it did not have slope, it would ring like crazy). IMHO it is not a problem either - The cure for that condition is easily available to the operator, just set the low end a bit higher and the opposite sideband response goes away. If one really wants to hear those very low frequencies, he will have to accept that a bit of opposite sideband will also be heard. 73, Don W3FPR drewko wrote: It sounds very nice on CW (and AM), even with my cheap headphones, which are not particularly bass responsive. It is a very pleasant extra dimension when tuning CW bands with wide open filter. It adds a lot to the sound. I wouldn't want to go back to the narrower sound. You can however hear a good bit more of a signal's opposite sideband when you tune through it with a wide filter and/or Shift set very low-- a couple hundred Hz or more on the opposite side for strong signals. I don't think that is a problem but some may complain. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KRC2
Can anyone tell me if the KRC2 will work with microHAM's 10 port switch and if so what is involved? -Robby VY2SS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Having used the FT-1000D, Mark V, and FT-2000 series of radios for nearly 20 years before moving the K3, the front panel design and ergonomics issues are completely bogus. There are other transceivers with user interfaces very similar to the K3 - including some from Yaesu - and, while different than the FT-990/1000/2000/9000 the K3 User interface is no less usable. Anyone who makes the size/user interface argument is simply making an excuse for not learning a new user interface based prejudice. Any contester or DXer who uses one of the popular contest or day to day logging packages with point and shoot features is insulated from the transceiver's user interface to such an extent that the differences among user interfaces is largely irrelevant anyway. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen piezo Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:42 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do? I still dont own a K3. I just cant bring myself to buy the K3 because of its front panel layout and its operation. Although I would very much like its receiver performance. I have used one at a contest station and all that I can say is that I would not buy one until a new front panel layout is designed. The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Most of us are just not portable operators, so dont need small size 12 volt radios. There are many good radios that would be a good front panel design model for the K3a. The FT950, FT920, Icom 737series, TS850 etc all have a very workable ergonomic front panel layouts that are easy to use. The FT950 is so well layed out and very attractive and it would be a good one to copy for a new K3 front panel. If the K3 is so modular, why would it be so hard not to offer a bigger box with a new front panel? There are many off the shelf 19 inch rack boxes that could be used with a new front panel styling. I would suggest that a new K3 panel with built in P3, power supply and 200 watt PA stage would be a big hit. Everyone seems to be so over the moon with the K3's small size, I must be a freak with alien genes to not like the radios front panel layout and operational ergonomics. The firmware feature list or lack of progress I can live with. However a awkward panel layout and poor ergomics thats carved in rock I cant really live with. When I used the K3 all that I ever used was the band switch, volume and RIT control thats all, just like a Mil-spec radio. It was very hard to do otherwise, so I probably missed a lot of the K3's potential. I too live in hope that a new K4 is coming! I could even live with a K3 junior with one receiver and a new front panel design. John --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk wrote: From: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 1:58 AM Unfortunately the K3 firmware seems to have wandered off track a bit, two years ago when the K3 started rolling out the following were on the to do list and formed part of the specification: 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration Synchronous AM These might not be the most important issues in the world, but were included in the original specification and are in the Oct 24th 2007 B1 manual. Currently the K3 fails to meet specification! Can we have some indication of their position on the firmware roadmap? 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] W1 Wattmeter for sale
I've recently acquired a LP-100A, and no longer have an application for my W1 wattmeter. It works just fine, is in like-new condition, and has been modified with green, yellow and amber LEDs on the lower part of the SWR scale similar to the upcoming W2 meter. Complete with all documentation. Price includes USPS priority mail shipment to your US address. $65 via PayPal. 73 Craig AC0DS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] There's a new K1 on the block!
Steve wrote: My version of this 'classic' rig is 4-band (40, 30, 30 and 15m)... A magic combination on 30m, my favourite band. 30m must really *really* be your favo[u]rite, if you have devoted two of the four bands on the filter board to it!!!:-) Mike / KK5F K1 S/N 175 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KRC2
Yes. Simply make the appropriate connections between the microHAM Ten Switch and the KRC2 source driver outputs. The KRC2 will provide one output per band for 160/80/40/30/20/17/15/12/10/6 meters when the band data (parallel) input is used. Check with Elecraft support for information abut aux bus or CAT support. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of robby robertson Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:33 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KRC2 Can anyone tell me if the KRC2 will work with microHAM's 10 port switch and if so what is involved? -Robby VY2SS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware preview: Much-improved receive AF bass response
Wayne: Yay! And while I would LOVE to be involved in the Beta, you have my radio since last Thursday :( I look forward to its return with new, tight encoders and more bass response. Regards Lu Romero - W4LT K3 3192 wayne burdick wrote: The next K3 beta firmware release will include dramatically better bass response in receive mode (50-200 Hz). The result is fuller, richer audio, which many of you have asked for. Lyle (KK7P) and I are completing the full beta test suite, and hope to do the release early next week. But we could also use a couple of volunteers--who really like low bass--to try the field-test release. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-preview-Much-improved-receive-AF-bass-response-tp3667622p3675697.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Response - Version 3.33 Firmware
Hearing a bit of the opposite sideband is a natural effect of using a very low Shift/Lo-Cut setting. No matter how straight sided the DSP filter may be, it does have a finite slope to it (if it did not have slope, it would ring like crazy). The DSP effect would be at audio. The opposite sideband effect is due to no longer fixing the corner of the roofing filter 200 Hz away from the carrier point. Remember, audio frequencies are imaged (folded) around the carrier. The DSP works the same whether audio at 200 Hz is above or below the carrier. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:30 AM To: drewko Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Response - Version 3.33 Firmware Drew, Hearing a bit of the opposite sideband is a natural effect of using a very low Shift/Lo-Cut setting. No matter how straight sided the DSP filter may be, it does have a finite slope to it (if it did not have slope, it would ring like crazy). IMHO it is not a problem either - The cure for that condition is easily available to the operator, just set the low end a bit higher and the opposite sideband response goes away. If one really wants to hear those very low frequencies, he will have to accept that a bit of opposite sideband will also be heard. 73, Don W3FPR drewko wrote: It sounds very nice on CW (and AM), even with my cheap headphones, which are not particularly bass responsive. It is a very pleasant extra dimension when tuning CW bands with wide open filter. It adds a lot to the sound. I wouldn't want to go back to the narrower sound. You can however hear a good bit more of a signal's opposite sideband when you tune through it with a wide filter and/or Shift set very low-- a couple hundred Hz or more on the opposite side for strong signals. I don't think that is a problem but some may complain. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Make Monitor level track AF level?
And on CW mode, multiply sidetone amplitude by the envelope of signals in the passband Please, No! Having external signals controlling the sidetone is a disaster. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of William Carver Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:51 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Make Monitor level track AF level? I don't bitch much, but get it to the top of the list. And on CW mode, multiply sidetone amplitude by the envelope of signals in the passband (Lyle knows about that) Bill - W7AAZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
Completely bogus is in the eye of the beholder, Joe. While I find the K3 ergonomics to be much better than I expected, there is room for improvement, as many have pointed out. 73, Steve NN4X On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Having used the FT-1000D, Mark V, and FT-2000 series of radios for nearly 20 years before moving the K3, the front panel design and ergonomics issues are completely bogus. There are other transceivers with user interfaces very similar to the K3 - including some from Yaesu - and, while different than the FT-990/1000/2000/9000 the K3 User interface is no less usable. Anyone who makes the size/user interface argument is simply making an excuse for not learning a new user interface based prejudice. Any contester or DXer who uses one of the popular contest or day to day logging packages with point and shoot features is insulated from the transceiver's user interface to such an extent that the differences among user interfaces is largely irrelevant anyway. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen piezo Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:42 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do? I still dont own a K3. I just cant bring myself to buy the K3 because of its front panel layout and its operation. Although I would very much like its receiver performance. I have used one at a contest station and all that I can say is that I would not buy one until a new front panel layout is designed. The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Most of us are just not portable operators, so dont need small size 12 volt radios. There are many good radios that would be a good front panel design model for the K3a. The FT950, FT920, Icom 737series, TS850 etc all have a very workable ergonomic front panel layouts that are easy to use. The FT950 is so well layed out and very attractive and it would be a good one to copy for a new K3 front panel. If the K3 is so modular, why would it be so hard not to offer a bigger box with a new front panel? There are many off the shelf 19 inch rack boxes that could be used with a new front panel styling. I would suggest that a new K3 panel with built in P3, power supply and 200 watt PA stage would be a big hit. Everyone seems to be so over the moon with the K3's small size, I must be a freak with alien genes to not like the radios front panel layout and operational ergonomics. The firmware feature list or lack of progress I can live with. However a awkward panel layout and poor ergomics thats carved in rock I cant really live with. When I used the K3 all that I ever used was the band switch, volume and RIT control thats all, just like a Mil-spec radio. It was very hard to do otherwise, so I probably missed a lot of the K3's potential. I too live in hope that a new K4 is coming! I could even live with a K3 junior with one receiver and a new front panel design. John --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk wrote: From: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 1:58 AM Unfortunately the K3 firmware seems to have wandered off track a bit, two years ago when the K3 started rolling out the following were on the to do list and formed part of the specification: 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration Synchronous AM These might not be the most important issues in the world, but were included in the original specification and are in the Oct 24th 2007 B1 manual. Currently the K3 fails to meet specification! Can we have some indication of their position on the firmware roadmap? 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] There's a new K1 on the block!
That would be for diversity reception! :-) Rick K7MW On Sep 19, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: Steve wrote: My version of this 'classic' rig is 4-band (40, 30, 30 and 15m)... A magic combination on 30m, my favourite band. 30m must really *really* be your favo[u]rite, if you have devoted two of the four bands on the filter board to it!!!:-) Mike / KK5F K1 S/N 175 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Headphone audio is reveresed and I can't figure out how to un-reverse it HELP
somehow my main (A) receiver is now in my right ear and my sub (B) is in my left. I can't figure out how I reversed them and need to get them back. Anyone No wisecracks about turning the headphones around.Grin. It's a boomset! What a long, strange trip it's been The Grateful Dead Truckin' __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
The fact it is 2 years on and still much to do is good news. My radio started out great (#101) and has just gotten better without me having to buy much of anything (think 756, 756Pro, 756ProII, 756ProIII). I can look forward to new innovations every couple of weeks. I hope they never stop. Now, what would be interesting would be a big box version of the K3. Same electronics but in a bigger case with more room between the knobs and separate knobs/switches for functions instead of multi-use. Sigh 73 k4ia Buck Fredericksburg, VA K3 #101 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
Dave, Et. Al. On the ergonomics front, as a former TS850 user for years, I disagree. I find the learning curve from my mindless habitual use of my TS850 and TS570 almost painless. The basic controls function in very similar ways. This commonality with Kenwood ergonomics was one of the reasons I selected the K3 over competitive Icom, TenTec and Yaesu products (as Kenwood no longer makes a real, contest quality transceiver... Now If I could have bought a brand new TS950SDX...) Regarding the following: One is the simple - from the user's perspective, I appreciate not so simple for the firmware developer - matter of disabling equalization when DATA mode is used. I've been browsing online manuals of radios from Yaesu, Kenwood and Icom and they all do that. Until the K3 also does, those of us who use data modes a lot will continue to have to leave equalization flat unless we want to fiddle about setting / unsetting it whenever we change modes. While I agree it would be nice to manage that issue in the radio, the solution lies in K3-EZ. Simply store your Digimode TX/RX Equalization setups in a memory called Digimode, your CW setups in a memory called CW, your SSB setups in a memory called SSB... You get the picture! Recall them as you need them. It takes about 5 seconds to do. Of course you need a computer... But I know you already have one! Hey, at least the fastening hardware is all the same and not a mixture of SAE, Whitworth and Metric like on my former Triumph Spitfire... I always knew where I parked it by the pool of transaxle fluid :) -lu-W4LT K3 S# 3192 Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote: The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Having used the FT-1000D, Mark V, and FT-2000 series of radios for nearly 20 years before moving the K3, the front panel design and ergonomics issues are completely bogus. There are other transceivers with user interfaces very similar to the K3 - including some from Yaesu - and, while different than the FT-990/1000/2000/9000 the K3 User interface is no less usable. Anyone who makes the size/user interface argument is simply making an excuse for not learning a new user interface based prejudice. Any contester or DXer who uses one of the popular contest or day to day logging packages with point and shoot features is insulated from the transceiver's user interface to such an extent that the differences among user interfaces is largely irrelevant anyway. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen piezo Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:42 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do? I still dont own a K3. I just cant bring myself to buy the K3 because of its front panel layout and its operation. Although I would very much like its receiver performance. I have used one at a contest station and all that I can say is that I would not buy one until a new front panel layout is designed. The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Most of us are just not portable operators, so dont need small size 12 volt radios. There are many good radios that would be a good front panel design model for the K3a. The FT950, FT920, Icom 737series, TS850 etc all have a very workable ergonomic front panel layouts that are easy to use. The FT950 is so well layed out and very attractive and it would be a good one to copy for a new K3 front panel. If the K3 is so modular, why would it be so hard not to offer a bigger box with a new front panel? There are many off the shelf 19 inch rack boxes that could be used with a new front panel styling. I would suggest that a new K3 panel with built in P3, power supply and 200 watt PA stage would be a big hit. Everyone seems to be so over the moon with the K3's small size, I must be a freak with alien genes to not like the radios front panel layout and operational ergonomics. The firmware feature list or lack of progress I can live with. However a awkward panel layout and poor ergomics thats carved in rock I cant really live with. When I used the K3 all that I ever used was the band switch, volume and RIT control thats all, just like a Mil-spec radio. It was very hard to do otherwise, so I probably missed a lot
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
Steve, While I find the K3 ergonomics to be much better than I expected, there is room for improvement, as many have pointed out. Claiming that the K3's more basic user interface (similar to a TS-570, IC-706, FT-900, or even TR-7, TS-830, etc.) is a reason to reject the radio IS bogus. It is equivalent to saying one should reject a particular brand or model of automobile because it has a steering column mounted gearshift or does not include cruise control and intermittent wipers where another automobile includes them. Do I still change modes when meaning to change bands? Yes. However, I also made finger errors with the FT-1000D user interface - that doesn't make one interface better than the other. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: S Sacco [mailto:nn4x.st...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:18 AM To: li...@subich.com Cc: juergen piezo; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do Completely bogus is in the eye of the beholder, Joe. While I find the K3 ergonomics to be much better than I expected, there is room for improvement, as many have pointed out. 73, Steve NN4X On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Having used the FT-1000D, Mark V, and FT-2000 series of radios for nearly 20 years before moving the K3, the front panel design and ergonomics issues are completely bogus. There are other transceivers with user interfaces very similar to the K3 - including some from Yaesu - and, while different than the FT-990/1000/2000/9000 the K3 User interface is no less usable. Anyone who makes the size/user interface argument is simply making an excuse for not learning a new user interface based prejudice. Any contester or DXer who uses one of the popular contest or day to day logging packages with point and shoot features is insulated from the transceiver's user interface to such an extent that the differences among user interfaces is largely irrelevant anyway. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen piezo Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:42 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do? I still dont own a K3. I just cant bring myself to buy the K3 because of its front panel layout and its operation. Although I would very much like its receiver performance. I have used one at a contest station and all that I can say is that I would not buy one until a new front panel layout is designed. The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Most of us are just not portable operators, so dont need small size 12 volt radios. There are many good radios that would be a good front panel design model for the K3a. The FT950, FT920, Icom 737series, TS850 etc all have a very workable ergonomic front panel layouts that are easy to use. The FT950 is so well layed out and very attractive and it would be a good one to copy for a new K3 front panel. If the K3 is so modular, why would it be so hard not to offer a bigger box with a new front panel? There are many off the shelf 19 inch rack boxes that could be used with a new front panel styling. I would suggest that a new K3 panel with built in P3, power supply and 200 watt PA stage would be a big hit. Everyone seems to be so over the moon with the K3's small size, I must be a freak with alien genes to not like the radios front panel layout and operational ergonomics. The firmware feature list or lack of progress I can live with. However a awkward panel layout and poor ergomics thats carved in rock I cant really live with. When I used the K3 all that I ever used was the band switch, volume and RIT control thats all, just like a Mil-spec radio. It was very hard to do otherwise, so I probably missed a lot of the K3's potential. I too live in hope that a new K4 is coming! I could even live with a K3 junior with one receiver and a new front panel design. John --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk wrote: From:
[Elecraft] K1 NB Modification
I remember somewhere on the net reading about some mods to make the K1-NB a little bit more aggressive. I've never come across anything like that in the almost nine years that I've had my K1. I've found the KNB1 to be effective on spark-type noise, but not at all effective on local power line noise. The NB on my old TS-50S is, in contrast, very effective on that same power line noise. The KNB1 has only the OFF, HI, LO noise threshold settings. Obviously, the blanking is *least* effective in the HI setting since the noise magnitude has to exceed a higher value to trigger the noise gate, compared to when the LO threshold is selected. The only construction option provided is changing D2 from the normal 1N4148 to an LED to raise the threshold in HI to require an even *higher* noise pulse magnitude before the the noise gate will trigger. The early KNB1 is identcal to the current KNB1, except that it wasn't provided with a 0.01 uF cap between U1 pin 1 and pin 8. Without that cap, gosh-awful noise is generated on some frequencies in the 20m band (at least) as the K1 transitions between transmit and receive. Anyone whose early KNB1 is without this cap should install it. Of course, that cap has no effect on setting the noise gate trigger threshold. That's determined only by RP1(9-10), RP2(5-6), and D1 when on LO, plus D2 when on HI. BTW, the K1 Quick Reference has for almost a decade now said that the KNB1 menu selections are OFF, NB1, NB2 instead of the correct OFF, HI, LO. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
K4IA wrote: The fact it is 2 years on and still much to do is good news. My radio started out great (#101) and has just gotten better without me having to buy much of anything (think 756, 756Pro, 756ProII, 756ProIII). I can look forward to new innovations every couple of weeks. I hope they never stop. I think that this is missing the point. I am happy that new innovations are appearing in the firmware. I would even be willing to pay for updates containing new features that I want. The complaint (nit-picking though some may consider it) by Dave G4AON and a few others is that two years on some features that were promised in the brochure or documented in the manual are still not implemented. My criticisms that I emphasized in my review were that the K3 still has certain fundamental operational deficiencies that could have been avoided if the designers had looked at how other radios worked before designing the interface. If everything worked as expected and we were only getting new features 2 years on I would be delighted. K4IA wrote: While I agree it would be nice to manage that issue in the radio, the solution lies in K3-EZ. Simply store your Digimode TX/RX Equalization setups in a memory called Digimode, your CW setups in a memory called CW, your SSB setups in a memory called SSB... You get the picture! Recall them as you need them. It takes about 5 seconds to do. That is not a solution, it is a workaround that should not be necessary. A 5 second operation is no replacement for a simple click of a button. But in fact it would not take as little as 5 seconds. One presumably would be using logging and/or datamode software, so you would have to close those programs, start K3-EZ, wait for it to load, go through the steps you suggest, close K3-EZ and load your logging or digimode program again. Why should that cumbersome procedure be necessary when an IC-746PRO, a TS-2000 and probably many other radios that so many here would sneer at as being inferior to the K3 do it automatically with the simple selection of the data mode? Elecraft have known about this for more than a year. People have been asking for per-mode EQ for a long time, though I'd happily settle for EQ off in data mode. Lyle has informed me that either option would be almost the same amount of work. But while we are waiting and waiting for the K3 to do something that is no more and no less than what other radios do, we find all kinds of other things being addressed like improvements to the audio, nice though I'm sure that is, which have far more recently become an issue. That's why some of us ask uncomfortable questions like is there a roadmap for the firmware development, so we can see when the issues that bug us are going to receive some attention. It seems to me that the requirements of people who want to exploit all the possibilities the K3 offers like digimodes, AM and FM are being ignored, while the improvements requested by the competitive SSB and CW operators get immediate attention. If that's really what's going on then fine, I'll sell my K3 and buy an Icom or Kenwood that do FM and digimodes a lot better than the K3 currently does. But I really get fed up with being told by people who exclusively use SSB or CW that there is nothing wrong with the K3 and I should stop complaining about it. It *is* supposed to be an all-mode radio. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-2-years-on-and-still-much-to-do-tp3674523p3676143.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
But while we are waiting and waiting for the K3 to do something that is no more and no less than what other radios do, we find all kinds of other things being addressed like improvements to the audio, nice though I'm sure that is, which have far more recently become an issue. I won't speak on behalf of Elecraft but I suspect the designers are prioritizing the roadmap based on necessity, user demand and available resources. You may be one of a few users who want data EQ On/Off prioritized to the top of the list, irrespective of past advertising disclosure. Strong demand from the larger user base may be invoking these changes in the roadmap. As a company, they reserve the right to move forward with a product in any way they desire (i.e., features and specifications subject to change). There's also a due-diligence obligation on the part of the prospective purchaser: How difficult would it have been to ask Elecraft, prior to the purchase: Will the data EQ bypass capability be absolutely ready at the time of production and purchase? That's why some of us ask uncomfortable questions like is there a roadmap for the firmware development, so we can see when the issues that bug us are going to receive some attention. Dangerous. If I'm a product developer, I am then held hostage to my own roadmap and delivery dates -- and many disgruntled users who will continuously point out that the company is driving off the designated roadways and loosing time in getting to the final destination (perhaps like the topic of this discussion). Paul, W9AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Headphone audio is reveresed and I can't figure
Tad wrotesomehow my main (A) receiver is now in my right ear and my sub (B) is in my left.? I can't figure out how I reversed them and need to get them back.? Anyone No wisecracks about turning the headphones around.Grin. It's a boomset! I have the same relationship, main on the right, sub on the left. I have a boom mike. My microphone boom will rotate in its socket to allow the mic to be on the left or right side. My headset is not marked for R/L so I never knew what side was proper. I never cared which side was which as long as I knew the mapping. I have my speaker pair set up to match my headset, main on the right, sub on the left. Two wrongs makes it just fine. Mike Scott - AE6WA Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA) NAQCC 3535 K3-100 #508 / KX1 #1311 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 ergonomics
I went thru the same question. Being over 6' tall I could 'palm' a basketball in my youth I wasn't sure. I used a friends K2 K3 on FD the last 3 yr.s. I realized it was no more difficult or easier to operate than a big rig. Another friend has a TS 2000 which is 'prettier' maybe..but I wouldn't trade my K3 for three of them. It's also 'prettier' to move the K3 on the operating desk or take to FD than one of the 50-60 lb giants. I couldn't care less what it looks like on the outside anyway. I care what the insides DO. I'm not a full contester but a DXer. Just my opinion. k9il k3 # 2626 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 ergonomics
Hi Guys, The wonderful fact is that there are a great deal of people who love the K-3's performance... excellent job Elecraft! Another fact is that many people like small radios and many people prefer or even need a larger radio. My personal preference would be to have the option of the incredible small and lightweight K-3 for mobile/portable use and then a larger K-4? for base operation... similiar electronics and performance of the K-3 but in a larger package with more front panel controls, more spacing between controls, large and bright front panel labeling of controls, individual band switch buttons, weighted smooth wheeling main tuning knob, larger s-meter/power meter, and built-in power supply. I like the LED s-meter/power meter over analog meters as for the LED's are easier to read but larger would be helpful. Another fact is that some of us are getting older... as I get older it's getting harder to operate small radios effectively in the heat of battle. Nothing more fun than a good CW contest! (sex is great but doesn't last as long for me!) Just my 2 cents worth. I would be a buyer for the larger K-3. Best 73, Dick- K9OM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Strange sound
Hi Gary -- I checked today and my CW signal is gone, or at least, changed. I now have a weak constant signal which does not change pitch (without turning the knob) and I hear it on both receivers so it's something different. It is also there with antenna removed. It's not in a place that causes a problem but I was just curious since it seemed so strange and out of place. Note also that I turned off everything else I had running to make sure I wasn't hearing oscillators from something else. Thanks for the comment and I'll keep listening but not bug the reflector about my odd occurrences. 73, Jim - K5LAD BTW - The NR was off when I was hearing either oddity. Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:19:09 +1200 From: Gary Hinson g...@isect.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Strange sound I've never seen this situation written about but I've just come across a very strange sound on my K3 - S/N-1068. With the dial on 29.492.6 USB I get a continuous CW sounding signal. It alternates a dot, then a dash then a space. If it were truly CW is would be considered poorly sent CW and the speed is about 10- 12 WPM. The lengths of the characters are not exactly the same each time but it never stops. I discovered it yesterday and wanted to make sure it was not just a one time thing. I can switch modes and it remains. Removing the antenna does not stop it, actually makes it a little stronger with the noise level dropped. I'm using firmware 3.30 beta. I tried on the SUB receiver and I hear nothing. Hi Jim. I have a fairly weak birdie there (well v close), a solid carrier not 12 WPM CW. Can hear it on the subRX as well. Were you using the NR I wonder? It can sometimes make stuff sound like it's comin n goin. 73 Gary ZL2iFB == == Growing old is like being increasingly penalized for a crime you haven't committed. -- Anthony Powell - Visit my webpages at: http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/ == == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 ergonomics
Another fact is that many people like small radios and many people prefer or even need a larger radio. My personal preference would be to have the option of the incredible small and lightweight K-3 for mobile/portable use and then a larger K-4? for base operation... similiar electronics and performance of the K-3 but in a larger package with more front panel controls, more spacing between controls, large and bright front panel labeling of controls, individual band switch buttons, weighted smooth wheeling main tuning knob, larger s-meter/power meter, and built-in power supply. Dick- K9OM We already have heard the same words 6-7 years ago. However the discussed rig was K2 and the dreamed one - K3. Now we have K3 bigger than K2. I'm sure that there will be voices for K5 bigger than K4 too. 73, Val LZ1VB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 ergonomics
IMHO, the TS-2000 is a REALLY UGLY radio Doug, W6JD - Original Message - From: r miles greenacres...@charter.net To: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:09:32 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [Elecraft] K3 ergonomics I went thru the same question. Being over 6' tall I could 'palm' a basketball in my youth I wasn't sure. I used a friends K2 K3 on FD the last 3 yr.s. I realized it was no more difficult or easier to operate than a big rig. Another friend has a TS 2000 which is 'prettier' maybe..but I wouldn't trade my K3 for three of them. It's also 'prettier' to move the K3 on the operating desk or take to FD than one of the 50-60 lb giants. I couldn't care less what it looks like on the outside anyway. I care what the insides DO. I'm not a full contester but a DXer. Just my opinion. k9il k3 # 2626 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] There's a new K1 on the block!
snip 30m must really *really* be your favo[u]rite, if you have devoted two of the four bands on the filter board to it!!!:-) Time to book myself a room at the home for the terminally QRP'd ! Guess I meant 20m but brain/keyboard interface caught some stray RF!! cheers Steve __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Strange sound
Hi Jim: Say hi to your first birdie. Mine is at 29.492.070 and is also present on both the A and B receivers. I have approximately 2 birdies per every 100KHz on all bands. There's a software suppression feature which you might like to try. It's under CONFIG:SIG RMV and its use was described in the release notes for MCU 3.03. I don't know if it's also in the latest manual. I personally found the birdies to be easier to tolerate than the software fix for them. 73, Mike K2MK jpk5lad Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:55:27 -0700 Hi Gary -- I checked today and my CW signal is gone, or at least, changed. I now have a weak constant signal which does not change pitch (without turning the knob) and I hear it on both receivers so it's something different. It is also there with antenna removed. It's not in a place that causes a problem but I was just curious since it seemed so strange and out of place. Note also that I turned off everything else I had running to make sure I wasn't hearing oscillators from something else. Thanks for the comment and I'll keep listening but not bug the reflector about my odd occurrences. 73, Jim - K5LAD BTW - The NR was off when I was hearing either oddity. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
P.B. Christensen wrote: There's also a due-diligence obligation on the part of the prospective purchaser: How difficult would it have been to ask Elecraft, prior to the purchase: Will the data EQ bypass capability be absolutely ready at the time of production and purchase? Why would I have any reason to think that it wouldn't? Other radios in existence at the time of the K3's announcement already did that. Therefore I think it is not unreasonable to assume that the K3's implementation of the data mode would work the same way. We are, after all, talking about a consumer purchase not a defence department procurement. That's why some of us ask uncomfortable questions like is there a roadmap for the firmware development, so we can see when the issues that bug us are going to receive some attention. Dangerous. If I'm a product developer, I am then held hostage to my own roadmap and delivery dates -- and many disgruntled users who will continuously point out that the company is driving off the designated roadways and loosing time in getting to the final destination (perhaps like the topic of this discussion). Okay, but roadmaps don't exist for your convenience. They are for the benefit of the customer who wants an idea of where and when he will get what he needs if it isn't available right now. In the case of the K3 its as if we are moving, hopefully forward, blindly and in the dark, with numerous people shouting often conflicting directions and no-one knowing if the drivers heard us or not. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-2-years-on-and-still-much-to-do-tp3674523p3676718.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
K3 is a consensus-derived SDR The larger the K3 community grows the harder it will become to get consensus about it's FW. I think this is giving Elecraft a hard time as well as a good laugh (I hope). The danger is that consensus gets disturbed by lobbying and shouting. That might drive K3 into a niche corner where it shouldn't be. Also I hope Elecraft won't rest too much on it's review-laurels. Don't focus too much on expansion, first strive for perfection in K3's core-functionality. Personally I think it won't be too long until other companies also drop their 1st IF roofing frequencies or switch to direct sampling HF SDR and get very comparable RF/IMD/DR results in a similar package. It will be a lot harder to still excell if you didn't refine the small stuff. (UI,audio,eq,memory handling, etc) for a wide variety of users. 73' Paul PD0PSB -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-2-years-on-and-still-much-to-do-tp3674523p3676876.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:31:21 EDT, k...@aol.com wrote: The fact it is 2 years on and still much to do is good news. My radio started out great (#101) and has just gotten better without me having to buy much of anything (think 756, 756Pro, 756ProII, 756ProIII). I can look forward to new innovations every couple of weeks. I hope they never stop. Now, what would be interesting would be a big box version of the K3. Same electronics but in a bigger case with more room between the knobs and separate knobs/switches for functions instead of multi-use. Sigh 73 [snip] Yep. Don't forget to poor some concrete in the unused interior space until it weighs 50 lbs and take out the passenger seat in the car so you can use it mobile. ;o) 73, Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
pd0psb wrote: K3 is a consensus-derived SDR The larger the K3 community grows the harder it will become to get consensus about it's FW. I think this is giving Elecraft a hard time as well as a good laugh (I hope). In fairness I would point out that I'm only suggesting that the K3 should provide the same functionality as other multimode top band to two metre radios as regards the operation of the data modes and the memories. I can't imagine that anyone would think there is a benefit in having audio equalization apply in data mode and surely no-one could think that the way the memories currently work is actually an improvement over the way other radios do it. Though there seem to be members of this list who would argue that black is white if white is what Elecraft said the color of the K3 case is... - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-2-years-on-and-still-much-to-do-tp3674523p3677029.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] What do you WANT??
I continue to be amazed at the amount of bitching about the firmware mods / upgrades. If tho se other JA radios are superior then for heavens sake buy one! Of course if you should need service, package it up, pay huge shipping charges (they weigh a ton) and wait 3 months (my experience with an IC-765) for a radio that STILL didn't work! Yes, I too would like to see EQ as a function of mode and sync AM. Are these show stoppers? Certainly not and if they were. what radio would I buy with these features, and the rest of the K3 performance, at anywhere near the cost of the K3?? As basically a CW type, I can't get excited about mods to audio improvments but, hey, these people bought the radio too! I can think of no other brand that has the user response and service that Elecraft provides. Doug W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
On Sep 19, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Julian, G4ILO wrote: There's also a due-diligence obligation on the part of the prospective purchaser: How difficult would it have been to ask Elecraft, prior to the purchase: Will the data EQ bypass capability be absolutely ready at the time of production and purchase? Why would I have any reason to think that it wouldn't? Other radios in existence at the time of the K3's announcement already did that. So what? That's an absurd assumption. Read the specs, read the manual. Don't like what you see? Move on to something else. But don't spend hours berating the fact that your assumptions were bad. Grant/NQ5T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Sidetone
Please, No! Having external signals controlling the sidetone is a disaster. 73, ... Joe, W4TV It is NOT a disaster, it is GREAT. The G3XJP STAR transceiver has had it for years. The sidetone amplitude adapts to the amplitude of the incoming signal which makes manual zero beating much, much easier. But in the K3 manner, make adaptive sidetone amplitude another user switch. YOU can turn it off and I'LL turn it on. No;; __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] What do you WANT??
Thank you. Very well said. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-do-you-WANT-tp3677122p3677283.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
I think most who feel they have to have buttons for all bands and what not haven't really spent much time learning the newer interface as recalling the memories as band switch is quite fast. Then if you use the M1-M4 as mode switch it puts you in the right frequency area and puts you in the right mode. Its very quick. As far as those who want the P3 the rig and a power supply all in one box they'd be the same ones complaining when something broke and they had to ship all that rig back to California. I personally don't mind a few extra cables and some modularity. ~BTH On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 10:35 -0400, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Having used the FT-1000D, Mark V, and FT-2000 series of radios for nearly 20 years before moving the K3, the front panel design and ergonomics issues are completely bogus. There are other transceivers with user interfaces very similar to the K3 - including some from Yaesu - and, while different than the FT-990/1000/2000/9000 the K3 User interface is no less usable. Anyone who makes the size/user interface argument is simply making an excuse for not learning a new user interface based prejudice. Any contester or DXer who uses one of the popular contest or day to day logging packages with point and shoot features is insulated from the transceiver's user interface to such an extent that the differences among user interfaces is largely irrelevant anyway. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of juergen piezo Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:42 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do? I still dont own a K3. I just cant bring myself to buy the K3 because of its front panel layout and its operation. Although I would very much like its receiver performance. I have used one at a contest station and all that I can say is that I would not buy one until a new front panel layout is designed. The band switching, VFO management, mode switching and many aspects of its front panel design needs a rework. Most of the contest operators that I know seem to own a FT2000, they will all acknowledge that its no K3, however they all feel the same as I do about the K3 and its ergonomics. Most of us are just not portable operators, so dont need small size 12 volt radios. There are many good radios that would be a good front panel design model for the K3a. The FT950, FT920, Icom 737series, TS850 etc all have a very workable ergonomic front panel layouts that are easy to use. The FT950 is so well layed out and very attractive and it would be a good one to copy for a new K3 front panel. If the K3 is so modular, why would it be so hard not to offer a bigger box with a new front panel? There are many off the shelf 19 inch rack boxes that could be used with a new front panel styling. I would suggest that a new K3 panel with built in P3, power supply and 200 watt PA stage would be a big hit. Everyone seems to be so over the moon with the K3's small size, I must be a freak with alien genes to not like the radios front panel layout and operational ergonomics. The firmware feature list or lack of progress I can live with. However a awkward panel layout and poor ergomics thats carved in rock I cant really live with. When I used the K3 all that I ever used was the band switch, volume and RIT control thats all, just like a Mil-spec radio. It was very hard to do otherwise, so I probably missed a lot of the K3's potential. I too live in hope that a new K4 is coming! I could even live with a K3 junior with one receiver and a new front panel design. John --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk wrote: From: Dave G4AON elecr...@astromag.co.uk Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 1:58 AM Unfortunately the K3 firmware seems to have wandered off track a bit, two years ago when the K3 started rolling out the following were on the to do list and formed part of the specification: 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration Synchronous AM These might not be the most important issues in the world, but were included in the original specification and are in the Oct 24th 2007 B1 manual. Currently the K3 fails to meet specification! Can we have some indication
Re: [Elecraft] K1 NB Modification
hrm... I could have swore that there was a set of mods that would allow one to modify the blanking time and what not a bit... I'm finding it ineffective in power line noise and would like to try and make it more so. However if I end up with the time to do it I'll probably not have enough time nor repeatable enough condx to test a whole lot. ~BTH On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 12:00 -0400, Mike Morrow wrote: I remember somewhere on the net reading about some mods to make the K1-NB a little bit more aggressive. I've never come across anything like that in the almost nine years that I've had my K1. I've found the KNB1 to be effective on spark-type noise, but not at all effective on local power line noise. The NB on my old TS-50S is, in contrast, very effective on that same power line noise. The KNB1 has only the OFF, HI, LO noise threshold settings. Obviously, the blanking is *least* effective in the HI setting since the noise magnitude has to exceed a higher value to trigger the noise gate, compared to when the LO threshold is selected. The only construction option provided is changing D2 from the normal 1N4148 to an LED to raise the threshold in HI to require an even *higher* noise pulse magnitude before the the noise gate will trigger. The early KNB1 is identcal to the current KNB1, except that it wasn't provided with a 0.01 uF cap between U1 pin 1 and pin 8. Without that cap, gosh-awful noise is generated on some frequencies in the 20m band (at least) as the K1 transitions between transmit and receive. Anyone whose early KNB1 is without this cap should install it. Of course, that cap has no effect on setting the noise gate trigger threshold. That's determined only by RP1(9-10), RP2(5-6), and D1 when on LO, plus D2 when on HI. BTW, the K1 Quick Reference has for almost a decade now said that the KNB1 menu selections are OFF, NB1, NB2 instead of the correct OFF, HI, LO. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Nabble says msg not accepted - but it is!
test post please do not reply -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Nabble-says-msg-not-accepted-but-it-is-tp3636503p3677469.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Broken promises
I was reading the email on this web site and I ran across someone who said you cannot please everyone. While this true, I feel as if a company states that there is a frim/software up grade, that is one of your reasons to buy, that they keep thier word. It would be nice to have the 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration. The sychronous AM is one of the reasons I bought my K3. Dave G4AOW, these updates are growing a little long in the tooth. Still wait'n 73 Karl N6XVT Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Broken promises
I simply cannot understand the 'fuss' about the 0.5 ppm calibration. the TCXO's as shipped by elecraft already exceed this specification by a comfortable margin over a very wide operating temperature range, a wider range than . Your K3 with TCXO already does considerably better than 0.5ppm, you don't need to enter the calibration data to see this. Simply look at the sheet supplied with your TXCO and you will see this. My K3 FP temp is around 40C (give or take a few degrees ) My TCXO does better than 0.5ppm over a range from -10C to well over +50C Elecraft sold me a TCXO for my K3 promising that it would do 0.5ppm. well it turns out that that it does. 73 Brendan EI6IZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
Grant Youngman wrote: Why would I have any reason to think that it wouldn't? Other radios in existence at the time of the K3's announcement already did that. So what? That's an absurd assumption. Read the specs, read the manual. Don't like what you see? Move on to something else. But don't spend hours berating the fact that your assumptions were bad. Clearly you don't use digimodes, otherwise you would not consider it absurd to assume that the K3 would have the same functionality in its data mode as other radios have. And it is not correct to use EQ when operating sound card digimodes, as anyone who uses those modes will tell you. I do find absurd your implication that it is acceptable for the K3 to be dysfuntional in this respect and that instead of bemoaning this fact I should just buy something else. I'm not sure Elecraft would agree either. I want the K3 to be the best performing radio just as much as they do, and the attitude of members of this list who attack anyone who dares to suggest that certain things could use some improvement is not constructive at all. I don't think anyone at Elecraft has ever been offended by criticism anyone has made on this reflector, so I don't understand why some people feel the need to leap to their defence at the slightest unfavourable comment. If we can't have free and frank discussion about the merits or otherwise of Elecraft products here on this reflector then how are Wayne, Eric and Lyle supposed to find out what their customers think? - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-2-years-on-and-still-much-to-do-tp3674523p3677602.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
I don't use digimodes and if I did I most likely would not have purchased a K3. Frankly if I wanted to pound a keyboard like a computer nerd I wouldn't even be a ham. But that's just me :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-2-years-on-and-still-much-to-do-tp3674523p3677718.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3...
I have had two K2's and a K1, and liked them all very much. I just ordered a flex 5000 although I am not really fond of computers in the shack. Why? because it can do fantastic fidelity and SAM, and it has a really nice display with band buttons, band stacking registers, panadaptor, etc. The original K3 advertisement for the K3 SAID it would have SAM, variable roofing filters and other things it still does not have. Only now is the fidelity improving I ordered a K3 when it was announced, but cancelled it and have not the desire to get one at all. I would love to get a K4, bigger box, full fidelity (if you want it), less or no menus, built in band scope, band buttons with stacking registers, maybe even a real meter... If it does come out, I suspect it will be 5 years from now... Brett N2DTS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3...
So,in other words instead of a mini from bmw you want to have instead a LINCOLN NAVIGATOR? --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Brett Gazdzinski brett.gazdzin...@verizon.net wrote: From: Brett Gazdzinski brett.gazdzin...@verizon.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3... To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 11:19 PM I have had two K2's and a K1, and liked them all very much. I just ordered a flex 5000 although I am not really fond of computers in the shack. Why? because it can do fantastic fidelity and SAM, and it has a really nice display with band buttons, band stacking registers, panadaptor, etc. The original K3 advertisement for the K3 SAID it would have SAM, variable roofing filters and other things it still does not have. Only now is the fidelity improving I ordered a K3 when it was announced, but cancelled it and have not the desire to get one at all. I would love to get a K4, bigger box, full fidelity (if you want it), less or no menus, built in band scope, band buttons with stacking registers, maybe even a real meter... If it does come out, I suspect it will be 5 years from now... Brett N2DTS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware 2 years on and still much to do
No one needs to defend Elecraft or its reputation. And on the other hand Elecraft has very thick skin, and take all complaints and suggestions seriously but not personally. That's part of what makes them a great company. I don't want anyone to think that I drank the Kool Aid, but I'm certain most everyone believes they get great support via the direct link (list, etc.) with the principals. No other ham radio equipment company offers anything like this, at leasts that I know of. Any company of any size has finite resources. Running a business largely has to do with prioritzing and balancing (multiple dimensions, same problem). Folks might do well to remember that, considering that owners already get an unbelievable level and quality of support from Elecraft, compared to the big guys. Despite the rhetoric above, no support system or model or capability is perfect. We know Elecraft's isn't. THEY know it isn't. It's just the best around. You do what you can, not what you can't. If some feature you need or want is deferred in priority or in implementation, it's not an oversight, or forgetfullness. It's about running a business and making choices about that business. That's just the way I see it. Opinions vary. soapbox mode OFF 73, matt W6NIA K3 #24 K2 #2810 On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:47:01 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Grant Youngman wrote: Why would I have any reason to think that it wouldn't? Other radios in existence at the time of the K3's announcement already did that. So what? That's an absurd assumption. Read the specs, read the manual. Don't like what you see? Move on to something else. But don't spend hours berating the fact that your assumptions were bad. Clearly you don't use digimodes, otherwise you would not consider it absurd to assume that the K3 would have the same functionality in its data mode as other radios have. And it is not correct to use EQ when operating sound card digimodes, as anyone who uses those modes will tell you. I do find absurd your implication that it is acceptable for the K3 to be dysfuntional in this respect and that instead of bemoaning this fact I should just buy something else. I'm not sure Elecraft would agree either. I want the K3 to be the best performing radio just as much as they do, and the attitude of members of this list who attack anyone who dares to suggest that certain things could use some improvement is not constructive at all. I don't think anyone at Elecraft has ever been offended by criticism anyone has made on this reflector, so I don't understand why some people feel the need to leap to their defence at the slightest unfavourable comment. If we can't have free and frank discussion about the merits or otherwise of Elecraft products here on this reflector then how are Wayne, Eric and Lyle supposed to find out what their customers think? - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 KAT2 P-out readings?
I recently decided to give my K2 (#3490) a tune-up. I hadn't done any alignment on it since I built it in June of 2003. Realigning the bandpass filters produced a noticeable improvement in receive performance. I have the KAT2 antenna tuner option in it, so I re-did the bridge null and power calibration adjustments. However, now I notice that the power output as indicated in the forward reading in ATU Pout mode is sometimes quite far off of the power set with the POWER control. For example: POWER Pout 0.10.1 0.20.5 0.30.8 0.50.5 1.01.9 2.01.9 3.04.0 4.03.4 5.06.6 7.08.6 10.0 10.7 12.0 12.2 These are all into a known good 50-ohm dummy load. I'm particularly concerned that requesting 0.3 W with the POWER control puts out more power than when I request 0.5 W. Same between 3.0 W and 4.0 W. I don't remember noticing this 6 years ago when I first built the rig (and I didn't make any notes to that effect in my log), but then I don't remember if I compared requested vs. measured power output back then. I've checked continuity of the control cable between the KAT2 and the control board and all conductors are OK. Before I dig deeper, I wanted to ask if these reading might indicate a problem, or is this just the nature of the beast? 73 -- Joe KB8AP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Broken promises
Karl, 1. As many here have said, the K3 already does 0.5 PPM, so where is your complaint? 2. If you had not already bought your K3, would you still buy one today without synchronous AM? If the answer to that is no, then I think possibly you have a somewhat different perspective on the K3 than the majority of its owners, a fact you might keep in mind when referring to it's delay as a broken promise. And didn't Elecraft already apologize for prematurely announcing synchronous AM detection anyway?? Maybe I'm confusing that with something else, but if not, it seems that the topic is being unnecessarily flogged. I have my own disappointments with certain aspects of the K3 (as well as the pending P3), but I must admit I'm surprised at the level of ire directed toward Elecraft on some of these topics. 73, Dave AB7E Karl Marderian wrote: I was reading the email on this web site and I ran across someone who said you cannot please everyone. While this true, I feel as if a company states that there is a frim/software up grade, that is one of your reasons to buy, that they keep thier word. It would be nice to have the 0.5 ppm TCXO calibration. The sychronous AM is one of the reasons I bought my K3. Dave G4AOW, these updates are growing a little long in the tooth. Still wait'n 73 Karl N6XVT Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 KAT2 P-out readings?
Joe, Are you using the TUNE button when you make those measurements, or are you doing CW and send 3 or 4 dots to assist in leveling the power and then measure during a key-down period. There is a difference. The K2 must have a bit of output before the power levels out. With TUNE, there are no breaks to level out the power and you get whatever came up when the button was pressed - that will be close, but try 3 or 4 dots of keying before measuring and I believe you will find the power much closer and less erratic. If the power does not then follow the power requested knob, tweak the KAT2 forward power pot a bit - that is the indication of power output that is being fed back to the K2 microprocessor. 73, Don W3FPR Joe Planisky wrote: I recently decided to give my K2 (#3490) a tune-up. I hadn't done any alignment on it since I built it in June of 2003. Realigning the bandpass filters produced a noticeable improvement in receive performance. I have the KAT2 antenna tuner option in it, so I re-did the bridge null and power calibration adjustments. However, now I notice that the power output as indicated in the forward reading in ATU Pout mode is sometimes quite far off of the power set with the POWER control. For example: __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K1] internal battery - charging
Hello folks Recently completed a K1, all works well. A mod here which I know is nqr ( not quite right ) is fitting a simple internal charger circuit so the batt pack can be left in situ. The original cover is also used, with the smaller speaker. Fit is what could be politely called snug When external 13.5 volts is used, the batts get a very small charge, about 15 ma. Now here is the tricky bit..when the K1 is off, but the external supply left plugged in, the charge rate is approx 200ma. Yep I know it's not really correct, but sure beats taking the top off to replace cells. cheers Paul zl1ajy -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/internal-battery-charging-tp3677955p3677955.html Sent from the [K1] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Residual tone
Hi all, Have a strange issue using Logger32 with the K3 which has only recently become apparent... After keying the rig with the CW machine, there is a residual tone (about 800Hz) that I can hear thru the phones, even with the AF turned right down. The tone level is controlled by the Monitor function. Turning the K3 off and on again cures the problem until I key with the rig once again... This doesn't always happen and does not happen at all with N1MM. Be grateful for any suggestions. Cheers, Paul __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] I Love This List
Well guys I have to say I Love This List. This list has taken what was a cloudy rainy Yucky day and gave me much enjoyment. We all know that the K3 isn't perfect but I Think we can all agree that it is a joy to Use. At least I love mine. It is the best I have ever owned in 35+ years as a ham. As far as Elecraft customer support is concerned, Anyone that has had to use it knows it has no Equal in the ham radio world. OK where's the koolaid? Dan N0DT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement - frequency change
Hi gang, The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet Sunday, 9/20/09 at 1800Z on 14.314 MHz. This QSY 2 kHz down is an attempt to dodge QRM on 14.316 Mhz that has troubled some net participants. Hopefully, we will have good propagation. See you there. 73, Phil, NS7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] This list.
I recently purchased K3 Serial# 3278. I've installed the last 2 Beta test releases. I'm enjoying the radio very much. My problem is this list. Maybe it's usefulness to newer K3 owners is conversely proportional to sunspots! There's been too many messages through here in the week with people voicing their pleasure and dis-pleasure with the K3, The size, the layout, etc. etc.. I'm tried of the pickering and comparing! Can't we just talk K3s, how we use this that or the other options so us newbie's can learn. It's obvious that there are some very astute gentlemen here, that have (or have had) a lot of different radios to compare. I brought a K3 to enhance my station, not to spend hours reading non relevant opinions of others. (This should cause another couple of hundred useless messages.) Please feel free to flame me, my filter(delete key) is working. To Elecraft, thanks for the great radio. But there is a need to clear this reflector and get it back to Elecraft related matters, not personal opinions! de K2GN/Larry K3 - S/N 3278 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I Love This List
Dan, ditto except I am at 49 years. I can't wait for the next releases. 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods ATS-3B -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dan Copeland Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:01 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] I Love This List Well guys I have to say I Love This List. This list has taken what was a cloudy rainy Yucky day and gave me much enjoyment. We all know that the K3 isn't perfect but I Think we can all agree that it is a joy to Use. At least I love mine. It is the best I have ever owned in 35+ years as a ham. As far as Elecraft customer support is concerned, Anyone that has had to use it knows it has no Equal in the ham radio world. OK where's the koolaid? Dan N0DT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] This list.
The K3 is an evolving rig, and this reflector ... warts and all ... is one of the best ways the user community has for suggesting improvements or identifying deficiencies (real or imagined). I think some of the stuff that pops up on this list is pretty fringe ... even silly at times, but that which is irrelevant to you or me may be very important to someone else (or to Elecraft), and I'm not sure that stuff you haven't yet read in the manual is any more useful to the K3 community as a whole than the other. Dave AB7E Larry - K2GN wrote: I recently purchased K3 Serial# 3278. I've installed the last 2 Beta test releases. I'm enjoying the radio very much. My problem is this list. Maybe it's usefulness to newer K3 owners is conversely proportional to sunspots! There's been too many messages through here in the week with people voicing their pleasure and dis-pleasure with the K3, The size, the layout, etc. etc.. I'm tried of the pickering and comparing! Can't we just talk K3s, how we use this that or the other options so us newbie's can learn. It's obvious that there are some very astute gentlemen here, that have (or have had) a lot of different radios to compare. I brought a K3 to enhance my station, not to spend hours reading non relevant opinions of others. (This should cause another couple of hundred useless messages.) Please feel free to flame me, my filter(delete key) is working. To Elecraft, thanks for the great radio. But there is a need to clear this reflector and get it back to Elecraft related matters, not personal opinions! de K2GN/Larry K3 - S/N 3278 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Evening, Another week has flown by. It does not help that I am working so many projects. Time simply goes away while I am having fun working. But the season is changing and there is not much time before the rain and snow of winter are at hand. I plan to be cozy and warm so I can work on the less strenuous activities sitting by a warm fire with some jazz on the radio. The snow can pile up around me as I work. Now that they have built a new communications tower above me I should not worry too much about electric power. But I do have a bank of batteries charged so I can be on the air for quite a while without being fed from the mains. A generator to run the well is in my future but for now water is my main concern during a power outage. Luckily all the trees which were going to fall have already done so. The ones remaining are well rooted and short. Propagation was decent this week on 20, 30, 40, and 80 meters. As long as one did not try to use them during the wrong times of day life was good. I missed the first thirty minutes of the foxhunt which was when most of the contacts were made. During the time I was able to work the event I heard one FOX and then that station was gone. I can only imagine they were calling CQ FOX but I will never know. Oh well, the 40 and 80 meter foxhunts are coming. Yesterday, during my daily sked, 30 meters was open but not nearly as wide open as it had been the day before. I was copying Japan and Europe as the band was wall to wall stations. Yesterday the QSB was strong but I was able to work for an hour. Hopefully this will hold through tomorrow. Space Weather is writing about an impending sunspot due to come over the limb of the sun in only a day or so. It is of the new cycle so maybe we will have some ionospheric activity from it. The only true measure of propagation is to get on the air and see who you can work. Let's do just that! Please join us tomorrow evening. 1) Hail signs (first letter or two of the suffix of your call) 2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP relay help) Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4 PM PDT) 14050 kHz Monday 0100z (Sunday 6 PM PDT) 7045 kHz Stay well, Kevin. KD5ONS - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Response - Version 3.33 Firmware
Just for comparison, using the DSP demod on my old vintage 96 MP. It suppresses the opposite sideband perfectly. That is 13 years old DSP technology and firmware. You must have an exceptional MP ... my MK V would certainly exhibit opposite sideband response in CW if I moved the PBT very low in frequency and then tuned to the other side of the carrier. I can't think of a single radio that had unconditional single signal response if the PBT (or filters) were adjusted so they provided a response on the image. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: Arie Kleingeld PA3A [mailto:p...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 6:31 PM To: li...@subich.com Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Response - Version 3.33 Firmware Joe, With DSP demodulation the opposite sideband suppression should not be a problem. Just for comparison, using the DSP demod on my old vintage 96 MP. It suppresses the opposite sideband perfectly. That is 13 years old DSP technology and firmware. No reason why a K3 could not match that. But it does not. 73 Arie PA3A -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] Namens Joe Subich, W4TV Verzonden: zaterdag 19 september 2009 17:06 Aan: d...@w3fpr.com CC: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio Response - Version 3.33 Firmware Hearing a bit of the opposite sideband is a natural effect of using a very low Shift/Lo-Cut setting. No matter how straight sided the DSP filter may be, it does have a finite slope to it (if it did not have slope, it would ring like crazy). The DSP effect would be at audio. The opposite sideband effect is due to no longer fixing the corner of the roofing filter 200 Hz away from the carrier point. Remember, audio frequencies are imaged (folded) around the carrier. The DSP works the same whether audio at 200 Hz is above or below the carrier. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
