Wes Stewart wrote:
I'm sorry, but IMHO, if you have to do this, you don't have a
well-designed receiver.
Nah, the K3 AGC is quite good - speech will ALWAYS sound more natural
without AGC and its inherent dynamics-limiting action.
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The low end response of the stock K3 is limited by coupling capacitor
impedance in the audio stage.
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Lyle Johnson wrote:
What I would like to know is just what the ACTUAL response curves of
the K3 transmit and receive audio are (when all EQ settings are set to
'0
Don Wilhelm wrote:
This was an intermittent problem experienced by a few K3 owners. It was
fixed in version 2.22 - see the firmware release notes.
I just saw this once today with 2.23 - power cycling the K3 clears it.
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Mike Miller-14 wrote:
I am confused about what the setting should be in Config Menu for the
Subreceiver (KRX3) if you want the subreceiver to listen to the same
antenna as the main receiver.
Use CONFIG:KRX3 ANT=BNC
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Jim Brown-10 wrote:
50 Hz and 100 Hz octave bands are VERY important
Why is 50hz important if it is completely outside the passband? +/-16dB at
50hz has zero effect on rx or tx in the K3.
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Darwin, Keith wrote:
If the price is in the $2000 range . . .
With the IC-7700 at $7000, I hardly think the IC-7600 will be anywhere near
$2000 (or $3000).
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Jack Smith-6 wrote:
Looking at the audio output in monitor mode
with a spectrum analyzer misses parts of the audio chain ahead of the
transceiver.
Why would you miss any effects that were upstream of the monitor?
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- Are there any tricks at any stage of the assembly that anyone has
uncovered
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Kit_Building
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further each time. The connector pins are clearly
visible so you can see the progress of the panel coming off. 3-4X on each
slot and she's loose.
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point as far as whether you should
delay KRX3 installation. Once installed, KRX3 removal is quite simple and
can be accomplished in about one minute. You should go ahead and install
your KRX3.
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DVR. You just need to remove the front panel.
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analyzer, but I don't hear it.
How about a WAV recording from someone who hears it?
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your ear drums. The higher the value (up to 15), the more homogenous
the loudness levels will be, independent of signal strength.
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think either answer is actually what Roy was looking for (but I
could be wrong). He asked how can they be accessed (other than through
CONFIG in SUB and the K3 Utility)?
I think he's looking for BSET - XFIL to do what he wants.
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If you're using compression, try turning it off and see if the audio report
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to turn the subreceiver
on. In the next firmware release (2.50 or later), you will only need to tap
AB once to transfer mode.
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Franki ON5ZO wrote:
Is there any K3 user that can give me some advice?
I don't do SSB very often and it's the first time I try this mode with the
K3. I'm setting up for next weekend.
I have a K3 and talk into a HC4 mic element connected to a microHAM MK2R
with some of the suggesting
settings that have been posted.
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on 20M. Try a push/hold on the SUB button until
unlink appears.
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have a transmit antenna, try using that along
with one of your receiving loops.
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with the wide filters.
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will be the perfect ticket for 20M this weekend.
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and intelligibiity.
What worked for me was 1.8Khz filters, 1.6Khz width, 0.95Khz FC (shift), AGC
SLP 3 (important not to use too much AGC compression), AGC THR 8. When I'm
not contesting, I turn AGC SLP to a higher value. I used flat RX EQ. On
the transmit side, I used CMP at 23.
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Phil LaMarche-2 wrote:
Thank you Lee, however, I should have been more descriptive. I am asking
about TX audio.
I ran K3 ssb transmit passband plots and posted them on the bottom of the
web page at http://n1eu.com/K3/K3_notes.htm - these were run with flat TX
EQ.
73,
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John, I don't need to read political b.s., no matter what the slant,
first thing in the morning, especially this morning. I'd hope we'd
keep politics and religion out of the sphere of discussion.
73,
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if the equalizer was bypassed when LINE
IN is used
I agree about different TX EQ by mode, and I think there should also be
different RX EQ by mode. But don't bypass TX EQ automatically when LINE IN
is used. Many of us use that in SSB.
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using RX EQ and filter center freq adjustment, my K3's ssb passband is flat
down to 150hz before rolling off.
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Bill Coleman N2BC wrote:
You can peek at the application and download it here:
http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm
FYI Bill, your page doesn't render well in IE7 because of its difficulty
with the screen.png image file
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It will work for some IE7 users, but not all and probably won't work
at all in IE6. Just Google .png IE7
Works fine in Firefox.
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On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Jim Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
looks good here in ie7.
jim ab3cv
turned on, SUB AF/RF
Gain turned up and you're using stereo headphones.
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(i.e., with no signal in the passband). Please
post these two spectra.
I suspect many of the spikes in your spectrum reading are not related to the
received signal.
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tomorrow Alex - exact same
levels, etc - taken with XG1 on and XG1 off.
FYI, I use SpectraLab here as well.
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Looking at the s9 agc off pre on plot, the worst distortion product is
still 60dB down. It would be nice if we saw zero distortion products, but
I suspect that the distortion seen here is completely inaudible.
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and R channels. Even so, I always used main-L sub-R with my Orion, so
there's no difference for me with the K3. I understand your desire to
customize the K3's audio routing and I suspect that might be a future K3
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W7TEA wrote:
I hesitate to reply cuz my experience is so limited. Try this if you
haven't already--
Turn on the SUB, turn on B SET, hit the ANT button until Main appears.
When
my rig came back from Aptos
My Heil ProSet is 200 ohms and my max AF Gain is also 9-10 o'clock like Bill.
Make sure you have the config menu setting for AF Gain set to HI
73,
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Bill W4ZV wrote:
W0CP wrote:
I've been disappointed with the audio output from my Heil proset
headphones. I've got other
N5WNG wrote:
The question is does the RX EQ get applied to both receivers?
No, with the current firmware, RX EQ is only applied to the main rx. I'm
sure this limitation will eventually be lifted.
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of rigs off a master rig. You run one instance of HRD for each rig
and just invoke the synchroniser.
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Did I miss something?
Check that you removed jumper W4 and that the SUBIN interface board and
connector pins are correctly seated.
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Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote:
What is the mod/problem found??
Yes Alex, can you please say more about what you found on the RF Board and
what the fix was?
Congratulations on the success!
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it to a no-signal
condition when resuming receive.
But if there's a strong signal on frequency, don't you risk blasting your
eardrums?
(not sure there's a problem with the way it is . . .)
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Barry N1EU wrote:
Steven.Zabarnick wrote:
I'm somewhat puzzled by the behavior of the AGC THR adjustment with
respect
to band noise. My understanding is that the AGC THR setting adjusts the
level at which the AGC is activated. Thus, I would expect when listening
to
band noise
I'm surprised to notice no provision for tx enable/inhibit signals
(qsk keying loop) on the K3. I'd appreciate hearing comments on why
this wasn't part of the design and what the timing safeguards are in
the existing key out signal to prevent hot switching on make/break.
Thanks 73,
Barry N1EU
refers to the ACC labeled connector as AUX I/O -
shouldn't this be consistent?
I believe there's an omission in the manual - TX INH is not listed in
the CONFIG menu section and I believe it should be.
73,
Barry N1EU
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Barry,
Something was added
contesters.
73,
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Don, in the email below, says that the time delay in the K3 will accommodate
a QSK amp. That is only partially true. The problem is in setting it
up. I could,
of course, put in a LONG delay but then QSK is gone. If I crank the delay down,
at some point I am relying
Simon, what was the dsp selectivity set at when you're using the 1Khz
and 250hz roofing filters? Was it likewise 1Khz and 250hz?
73,
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recordings would be great - from you or any other
K3 owners out there with a soundcard.
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It's a 16-bit mono recording taken via the line-out using a high-quality
soundcard (USInterface.com Navigator). The K3 operator isn't all that
skilled but he's got half a clue as to what's going
and
critical. Everybody's motivation is making the K3 the best radio out
there, and it's off to a great start.
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Great little clip Eric! How about a full length feature?
Nice to hear the K3 sounding good on cw.
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Barry N1EU, regarding your comment about shape factor, I assume you know
about the K3 Context filter.
Yes Bill, and I look forward to seeing how it works. But the filter
slopes on the context filter are not adjustable either so we're
talking apples and oranges. If the firmware can support
display right into their program or else to
read the K3 data and make it available through an OLE interface to
external programs.
73,
Barry N1EU
I propose that an item for the SW development list (if it isn't there
already) be a Windoze app that takes all key parameters and displays them in
a window
Simon, any chance you could make about a 10sec recording of band noise
on an empty band with RX EQ set flat and 6Khz selectivity and either
post the WAV file or email it to me?
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Off the top of my head, Omni 7 has a big beautiful display and has TCP/IP
ethernet remoting built into it.
To my eyes, these are two VERY different radios. Why don't you download
both manuals from the mfr's Web sites and compare for yourself?
73,
Barry N1EU
Another way to ask the question
having to search through the
archives.
73,
Barry N1EU
On another point, there was criticism of someone posting an assembly
question to the reflector. That is the whole point of the reflector,
simple how does it fit or where does that go questions are easily
resolved, often in a few minutes
It would be very cool if some future generation of PowerSDR software provided
a clickable bandmap overlay to the displayed spectrum from the K3.
Functions such as quick qsy to any point in the spectrum and labeling of
sigs with callsigns would be great tools for dxing/contesting.
73,
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oriented spectrum that would parallel the bandmap and move/resize in tandem
with it.
That would sure sell a bunch of K3's (as if they were sitting on the shelf
already . . . . ;-)
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I think he was looking for an N1MM type band map layed out
You can connect the subreceiver to a rx ant via the aux RF jack, without
having the KXV3 option.
See Antenna Selection at
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Stereo_Diversity_Reception_and_SO2V_Contesting
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Barry N1EU
DaleJ wrote:
I'm trying to clear up some confusion
Get a used Orion I - a bargain at around $2K and you'll be able to resell it
for little loss when your K3 is ready.
73,
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Just wondering what Rig would be your second choice if you can't wait
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This is admittedly topic skew, but for non-critical occasional am listening,
it would be nice to have a much lower cost option than the $120 filters. A
cheap ceramic or 2-xtal filter, about 15Khz bw would have been a nice
addition to the K3, maybe even as a st'd component.
73,
Barry N1EU
that will still
allow the 2.8Khz filter to be engaged
please tune to an empty spot on any band - I just want to hear the band
noise and run a spectral plot
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of comparison and how quickly you're apt to butt up against the radio's
limitations. In tough band condx, I don't think it would be much of a
comparison.
73,
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David and Dianne on Comcast wrote:
Hi Everyone,
The delay of the second receiver option is to me both
Mike, I don't think the K3 will do what you think it will. The non-transmit
antenna (ANT1/ANT2) can't be used by the main receiver, only the
subreceiver. Look at figure 3 on p39 of the manual.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
73,
Barry N1EU
Mike B-12 wrote:
Per the FAQ
of the above and sub on AUX RF. (Antenna Selection details)
Brett, under your option #1, you failed to mention the constraint that
ANT1 or ANT2 selection for the receivers must match the transmit
antenna selection. This was the essence of Mike's original question.
73,
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Charlotte amp; Bob Higgins wrote:
You're kidding. After all the sturm und drang on this reflector, cancelled
orders, and threats
of cancelled orders its only delayed until April 1?
Don't some of you feel kind of foolish?
What you meant to say was April foolish , ja?
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?
To date, has anybody actually implemented this in their K3 - amplifier
interface and can report on how well it is working?
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will eventually announce
that they have indeed implemented support for amplifier keying loop in a new
firmware update.
73,
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Dave G4AON wrote:
Barry
I run a K3/100 with an Acom 1000 on CW and can confirm the Acom 1000
doesn't need TX inhibit wiring. I cannot comment on other Acom
of adapting the K3
and supporting the keying loop interface. The benefits of doing so have
already been stated.
73,
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GW0ETF wrote:
. . . If your transceiver has a suitable input that disables transmission,
we recommend that you connect it with a cable terminated in a Phono (RCA
frustrated are fairly
high without improving the instructions.
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Lee, it would help if you mentioned what amplifier YOU would be interfacing
to the K3. My experience with Brand X amplifier might have no bearing on
you.
73,
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Lee Buller wrote:
Is that the case? Therefore, no special parameter would be needed. I
would like a clarification
.
Are other folks seeing this? Am I missing something - why is the K3
flipping back and forth between these width options?
Maybe this whole thing could be solved with 100hz or 50hz granularity of the
width control in ssb.
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Thanks Toby.
I think it would be helpful if we compile a list of known problems and
post them on the Wiki to help out new K3 owners.
Perhaps K3 owners out there could email me what they confidently know
to be known problems.
Thanks/73,
Barry
On Feb 5, 2008 9:58 PM, Toby Deinhardt [EMAIL
Atsu, see http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/yada-yada.html
The term yada yada became popular after its use in the tv comedy
show Seinfeld. It's a humorous way to say etcetera etcetera
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Personally, I haven't seen this but I haven't listened specifically for it
either.
73,
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Gary W. Hvizdak wrote:
On Fri 8 Feb 2008 at 01:07:35 EST, Ed Gilliland (W5TM) wrote ..
I'm have poor isolation between the transmit antenna (ANT1) and my
Beverage
(RX ANT IN). I have
Roland, check
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Firmware_changes_on_Elecraft%27s_list_to_be_added
and look at the first item.
73,
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Roland Guidry-2 wrote:
Has anyone tested to see what the low cutoff is on TX for SSB. Is it
100hz,
, 150hz, 200hz, 250hz? If it is higher
FWIW, my initial listening isn't hearing much difference between the Orion
and K3 on transient response. So far, static bursts are sounding pronounced
on both radios to my ears.
73,
Barry N1EU
K4IA wrote:
In a message dated 2/10/2008 3:17:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL
Yes, Stewart asks a good question. As I reported previously, I had to
install an ICE 196 RF Limiter in the Beverage feedline to prevent my Acom
from generating ArcFault errors on 160M.
73,
Barry N1EU
Stewart G3RXQ wrote:
Are you using a separate RX antenna ? There is a recognised issue
Doesn't the monitor control adjust the spot volume?
73,
Barry N1EU
Bill Harris-2 wrote:
How do we lower the SPOT volume? No help from the manual. (that I can
see)
BillHarris
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fast paced contesting.
73,
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Bill W4ZV wrote:
Michael E. Dobson wrote:
Interesting note on the PVRC contest club reflector regarding the K3
with the wideband IF output. Coupling it with the LP-PAN from N8LP
and CW Skimmer, they expect it to be THE standard for serious
If you built the kit, you might not have mounted the front panel properly and
fully seated the mic connector. Go to
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Kit_Building and read the
tips under Front Panel and DSP. Check what is described about seating the
mic connector.
73,
Barry N1EU
or
clickable panadapter etc, we won't have these capabilities unless software
that will arbitrate access to the serial port from multiple programs is
available.
73,
Barry N1EU
Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
Taking things a step further - it would not be at all difficult to allow
other programs to send
a COM/OLE programming interface to send the rig most CAT commands.
We need a solution like N8LP and HB9DRV have been talking about lately.
73,
Barry N1EU
Tom AK2B wrote:
Software that interfaces to rigs over the single RS-232 port need to
learn to play with each other. Developers have
. I've
been very careful in making slight adjustments and just can't find a sweet
spot. I'm not loving the felt washer adjustment system - am I missing
something?
73,
Barry N1EU
wb8yqj wrote:
The official numbers are great news, however, given
a chance to operate the K3 in this weekends ARRL
might want
to try the second washer if they're not happy with the drag results with
one washer.
Whoopee!
73,
Barry N1EU
Bill W4ZV wrote:
Regarding the Main VFO knob, when I finished my unit I found I had a felt
washer left over. Re-read the instructions and found I only installed one
washer
I've had the same thought. I assume that eventually we'll have some software
support with a nice GUI to set/save EQ settings on a PC. But perhaps
recruiting M1-M4 buttons to somehow save/restore 4 RX EQ and 4 TX EQ
settings would be really nice.
73,
Barry N1EU
WB6MND wrote:
I'm a new K3
Go into config menu and change AGC SLP to 15 and see if that helps
this issue. (p 50 of manual)
73,
Barry N1EU
My K3 is a super CW rig and a poor SSB rig. at least to this date
1. AGC blasts from weak to strong sig... does not smooth out the audio enuf.
Vy short tone sigs pierce my
This is perhaps a long shot, but anybody out there want to trade their
narrow 1.8Khz K3 filter for a 2.8Khz filter?
Please reply off list.
73,
Barry N1EU
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. Not very good at all...
I wonder if others have plotted their 5 pole filters.
I have plotted my 2.7Khz filter in both USB/LSB and am not seeing the slope
that you're seeing. I'm able to adjust the center freq so that USB/LSB
sound virtually identical.
73,
Barry N1EU
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between the modes.
73,
Barry N1EU
John A. McCabe wrote:
On USB the trace was substantially flat with the -3dB points at 430Hz
and 2.77KHz. Not too bad and could probably be improved by moving the
carrier offset frequency.
On LSB, however the trace was far from flat having a slope from
.
73,
Barry N1EU
Bill W4ZV wrote:
Stewart G3RXQ wrote:
On USB the trace was substantially flat with the -3dB points at
430Hz and 2.77KHz. Not too bad and could probably be improved by
moving the carrier offset frequency.
One more point. The -3 dB bandwidth you are reporting
I've received several inquiries about the software used - as I indicated,
it's called SpectraPlus. Unfortunately it's not freebie software.
73,
Barry N1EU
Barry N1EU wrote:
My SpectraPlus plots are viewable at
http://www.n1eu.com/images/K3_2700usb_lsb.gif
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Barry N1EU wrote:
Bill, I think the 2.9Khz bandwidth measurements for that filter were taken
at r.f. - for whatever reason, that bandwidth is not translating into a.f.
- I've seen a.f. measurements done on about 5 samples of the 2.7Khz filter
and they all run several hundred hertz
David, I suggest you make a recording with a signal present and not
just background noise. I suspect the noise reduction algorithm might
be adaptive and require the presence of signal in order to optimize
its action.
73,
Barry N1EU
So I have made a recording on the noise and it is available
Any videos out there showing nice closeups of simple/safe/inexpensive
techniques to solder SMD? Many (most?) of us have zip experience with the
little buggers.
73,
Barry N1EU
wb8yqj wrote:
I have a pair of 15 watt Radio Shack grounded tip IC
soldering irons and some old tips. I'll file
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