Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Christmas

At 11:51 AM 12/27/2006, Paul Del Negro wrote: Santa really came through this year (with a little help from the XYL). I found under the tree: ppy New Year to all! 73, Paul, N2PD lucky dude Santa for got to bring my KPA1500 ! boo hoo Merrry Christmas and HEALTHY Happy New TO ALL...,

Re: [Elecraft] Com port problem

i've been successful with used usb to serial edgeports very expensive new but very inexpensive on the baysite\ bill ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Front Panel

right side panel is 38c,,, ( where two regulators are) and that is with the radio somewhat enclosed in a cabinet... At 03:13 PM 8/19/2013, Paul VanOveren wrote: Mike, my K3 w/sub rx, at start up, the Front Panel is 15C and the PA temp is 28, how does yours compare? PaulNF8J On Mon, Aug

[Elecraft] kpa 500.... to disassemble or not ?

it is working fine. just spent the weekend at a shopping mall ham radio demonstration ... w3c I get the amp home and i head a bit of a rattle... open the lid and a zinc screw drops out no washer yet To disassemble or not , that is the question if the screw is part

[Elecraft] kpa 500.... to disassemble or not ?

right behind the front panel is the 'rectifier' board, home to much of the zinc hardware tada ... one of the three missing and there was no sign of a star washer on the screw, musta been short . no I will get one for that. open it up ... is was the only choice :) bill /3

Re: [Elecraft] Is ham radio a sport ??

talk about exercise and danger last time I was up at 50 feet working on the tower, it was mostly exercise. Danger it was to the antenna if you let go. Suppose if we add tower climbing races to the hobby, then it is a sport,. bill/3

Re: [Elecraft] Cheap headphones

Logitech Wireless Headset F540 a gaming headset,.,,, I was in a fry's store and saw a bluetooth ? 2.4ghz boom headset with a receiver selling for $59.99amazon has for 86$, had to buy it... it has ins/outs at the receiver for wiixbox,,,.. going to have to do some

Re: [Elecraft] External Speakers for K3

OK no speaker since they do not make speakers,,,\ but they could sell an enclosure , P3 form factor grille punched out with internal standard mounting studs... for whatever that size hole could reasonably accommodate leaving the rest of the space for us to chop up for

Re: [Elecraft] FS: Superb Test Equipment

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab® S Original message From: Howard Ashcraft hwashcr...@gmail.com Date: 09/25/2014 9:06 PM (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] FS: Superb Test Equipment Before I post these items on eBay, I wanted to make them

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 (or, K3) 2-meter solid-state amplifier

Original message From: Phil Hystad Date: 09/21/2015 8:06 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "Richard W. Solomon" Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 (or, K3) 2-meter solid-state amplifier > On Sep 21, 2015, at 4:55 PM,

Re: [Elecraft] Touchscreen and Buttons

or just get an Expert MB-1 get your touchscreen, SDR, WIN 10 etc... http://eesdr.com/en/products-en/transceivers-en/mb1-en Tech support will be like working DX not quite Elecraft. bill At 07:37 PM 6/5/2016, Bill wrote: Consider a control program with a Windows 10 touch screen that has

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Power On/Off

since there IS something in the K3, looking for that power button press, could not also look for a double hit on some unused serial line ??? That the remote software could employ? i have had my k3 turned off while remoting,.,,, multi times... once i called home and my wife gladly turned it

Re: [Elecraft] k3 various & intermittent errors on power on

ill Steffey NY9H <n...@arrl.net> wrote: > > k3 sn 22xx loaded option wise ( no 2mtr) > > last week vfo did not move receiver ??... > and heard no sigs till after i changed bands and back/// > > upon pwr on get err codes.. > first was KIO > > THEN IF1 &g

[Elecraft] k3 various & intermittent errors on power on

k3 sn 22xx loaded option wise ( no 2mtr) last week vfo did not move receiver ??... and heard no sigs till after i changed bands and back/// upon pwr on get err codes.. first was KIO THEN IF1 PWR DN AND UP AGAIN ,,, KIO IF1 I RELOADED FW THINKING THAT WOULD BE EASIEST ..

Re: [Elecraft] K8ZOA SK and Clifton Laboratories

way back when the K2 was THE elecraft radio I bought from Jack a Panadapter, a kit, quite a kit. It plugged into a Jack supplied jack on the back of the K2 for an IF tap. While I enjoyed the scope, continuing my interest in such devices, I was blown away at the documentation for the unit.

[Elecraft] kpa 500 gain question

i see that Expert is proposing to the FCC to eliminate the 15db gain... SB QST ARL ARLB015 ARLB015 FCC Invites Comments on Petition to Eliminate 15 dB Gain Limit on Amateur Amplifiers Wondering how easy a mod ( and firmware) would enable our kx3s and Elad Duos to fully drive the KPA500

Re: [Elecraft] Small QRP Xcvr Use Question

i would think better is to have an kx3 or kx2 internal tuner ...esp one that matches 10-1. That eliminates weight, a box, cables and fussing... my kx3 did Verry well on the Danube River bank with just 18 foot wire about 8 feet up in a bush... no treesssb ( on a bike trip) yes a

Re: [Elecraft] New Elecraft Product: K-Pod Control Panel for K3S and K3 Transceivers

ORDER IN as they say on "hawaii 50" SHIP IT WAYNO.errr ah Danno guess I'll have to wait till Dayton to try out my new acquisition. bill H/3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] OT: RF noise in solar photovoltaic system

In 2010 I had installed a 10kw system, about 400 feet down from my tower. Before selecting SMA as the inverter manufacturer, I went to two sites with my little Kenwood TF6A. It has am fm ssb bdcst to uhf... using the am broadcast band and built in loop antenna, the only noise I could

Re: [Elecraft] Now that the K-Pod is shipping,

need a longer rj cable for kpod is there a reason that an rj12 6c straight thru would not work,??? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] R: OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

from a guy who worked for : in alpha order AKG Shure Bros Sennheiser SPEND THE BUCKS ON THE ANTENNA. get an electret element from RatSchak, put it on the end of a gooseneck lamp ( do take out the bulb) stuff on an old mic windscreen to make you feel good and tada . a

Re: [Elecraft] Mobile Elecraft

two weeks ago drove back from Chicago to Pittsburgh area,.,,, with my kx2 mounted at the bottom of my center console, just above the handbrake. VW sportwagen , diesel, with little tarheels on the roof rack. The KX2 was exciting the KXPA100, which fits nicely under my drivers seat. While the

[Elecraft] got pod... did mod.... no tuning action.

did the 6 ohm mod, pwr to the pod is good... leds light for the different tuning vfos.. but no vfo movements on the radio/// something does go beep when I plug in / ideas bill K3 sn 2244 __ Elecraft mailing list

[Elecraft] kPOD

Bill go back to the shop and verify you have latest FW in that K3 !!! ok, good idea bill __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

[Elecraft] strange request ,,,,, contacts tonight ?

for our radio room at our local club ( Washington Amateur Communications - WACOM) we secured a used K3...added the 100 wt amp and away we go, We've used members 5 K3s radios at field day successfully, however some club members have accused me of drinking too much purple 'koolaide" and that

[Elecraft] Elecraft, Thank you for having a display at W9DXCC

I'll third that ,,, disappointed that I did not see a single device 5 KW amplifier ( hehe ) ...\ please no flamers... I know the drill. TNX Eric & Wayne for coming to Chicago T'was great. bill NY9H / 3 At 07:49 PM 9/18/2016, you wrote: I will add a second to that. Bob,

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

anyway do note that perusing Digikey & Mouser you will have a hard time finding ANY electret from the worlds electret makers ,,, that exceeds 5$ ..(.5 for 3$ ) except knowles a chicago based mfg of tiny mic elements. the cabinet /enclosure mic body, cable & windsreen add up ... so make your

Re: [Elecraft] Mobile Radio Dreams & the KX2

having used a 706 for YEARS in my VW... i tried the kx3 mounting it in the lower console down by the handbrake, BETWEEN THE SEATS where the 706 head was. The KX3 with the mic/pwr/ctl lines out the left and the BNC out the right, doesn't fit ..too wide. However the KX2 fits even with that

Re: [Elecraft] KX3/KXPA100 as a mobile?

started with a kx3 & kxpa100 to replace an icom 706. But the kx3 would not fit between the seats  on my VW..back to the 706.  and then I picked up a kx2 the first day at dayton. IT FIT.  But wait ...it fit in the dash, even better. At a stoplight a lady asked from adjacent car what it that

[Elecraft] TX Calibration fails on 30m only

thought it good day to do a tx calibration. I don't very often use 30 meters..    and today the calib quits at 30 meters saying  too high for calibration   4.1 swr... All other bands indicate swr of 1.1 //  except 10mHz... I looked and the 10mHz low pass filter is shared with 14mHZ... and

Re: [Elecraft] TX Calibration fails on 30m only THANKS TO TAX !!!

On Apr 7, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: thought it good day to do a tx calibration. I don't very often use 30 meters..and today the calib quits at 30 meters saying too high for calibration 4.1 swr... All other bands indicate swr of 1.1 // except 10mHz... I looked

Re: [Elecraft] fails on 30m only THANKS TO TAX !!!

n bypass.  With that set properly all is good. Hopefully the only screwup made while reconfiguring my station my stay at home project. stay safe Jim bill/3 On 4/7/2020 7:59 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On 4/7/2020 12:43 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: Bob prompted what was my next step ..one shor

Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 and Audio Issue

Rich really meant WATTs. On 4/6/2020 5:54 PM, Adrian wrote: I always use 15.6v and with double heavy cable to minimise VD, On 7/4/20 4:08 am, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: I’d say that 10 - 12 volts is too low. The supply should be 13.8 to 14.8. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6,

Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three... +1

Once upon a time there was a radio design that would be the LAST RADIO you ever needed... and its receiver design was way far ahead of then current "top 3 " designs.  No old Tenneessee Technical...  it was Ten Tec Orion  It was the 'first" to revert back to old "not triple conversion" 

Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery

why have an engineer on staff ???    just shop a few services out for the best price. When I got my First Phone I thought I could find great job security but I twisted from broadcasting to saleson the way home from my first interview with WAAF/WGRT I took a job in the audio

[Elecraft] "subject" & "from" & "reciepient" missing from this email from reflector ????

On 5/1/2020 8:10 AM, - wrote: Hello all, Thank you for all the help and advice! A nice gentleman and I are going to meet when I do a feed run to Bryan, TX. That will cut a 5 hour trip to 2.5. I usually pick up a ton (or more) at a time for the draft horses, cattle & goats. :-) The plan

[Elecraft] question on W2 wattmeter interface application

STAY WELL ALL.. got my W2s in circuit...   However my interface ( not the utility) software finally finds the W2 but the application stays pinned in the let top corner of the main screen. Cannot even find the top bar to use the X to kill it. Tried wiping out the regedit , but it manages to

Re: [Elecraft] question on W2 wattmeter interface application

not a shill.) After you've done this, then you can reinstall the software if you wish. Now, back to the topic of the W2 software. Practice safe computing, hi. 73, Rick NK7I PS On 3/19/2020 11:56 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: STAY WELL ALL.. got my W2s in circuit...   However my interface

Re: [Elecraft] question on W2 wattmeter interface application RESOLVED

HAD TO DISCONNECT MAIN MONITOR , forcing all the apps to the 2nd & 3rd monitor,,  got the  W2 APP to come off the ceiling... onto main portion of screen/// reconnected and all ok /// sorry for the bANDWIDTH STAY SAFE On 3/19/2020 5:50 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: I had uninstalled the

[Elecraft] problem with w2 sensor..

 no fwd power  ,  full swr     and the first led in thwsr display is on fulltime, when that sensor is selected gott dig in and pull that sensor ideas ... while I dissect/// bill /3 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.

Re: [Elecraft] problem with w2 sensor..

it was the rj falt silver cable or connectors    changed it now all is good On 5/19/2020 12:18 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:  no fwd power  ,  full swr     and the first led in thwsr display is on fulltime, when that sensor is selected gott dig in and pull that sensor ideas

[Elecraft] Fwd: Re: K4 -- Spectral subtraction noise reduction

I do believe that  BHI Ltd  ( Graham)  has been using that for years...   check out their website . Under downloads there are several examples of how well it works,.( really well...) https://www.bhi-ltd.com/downloads/sound-files/ I always have been suggesting to Eric & Wayne to look at the

Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] Help! MH3 mic PTT broken, fixable? - ELECTRET MICROPHONES

most ANY electret microphone element will be excellent for use with ham radio. The Panasonic are among the most expensive ( 8pcs New WM-61A Panasonic Electret Condenser Mic Capsule Mic   )   on ebay That leaves the case cord and plug for the "mic" factory to finish. Many of the fake 'icom"

[Elecraft] K9YC

Glad your home made it thru the fires hope you get home soon !!! Very Great to hear you were awarded the ARRL Tech Services Award..   you certainly earned it. http://www.arrl.org/news/arrl-technical-service-award-conferred It's fun to see you and a few other brains here keep some of

Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing Posted

where did Yaesu make the new 101 On 10/3/2020 10:08 AM, Macy monkeys wrote: I have the FTdx101D. It wasn't made by workers in America and I don't have a pipeline to the designers. Those two things alone might be considered worthy of the extra expense. But K4 performance will be proof of

Re: [Elecraft] "On second thought, I'll take the stairs."

wow  ...  he is so young !!!   I am so old,,, I was just browsing thru several months of 1955 Pop electronics and reading the Carl & Jerry stories. Here are ALL the PE magazines starting in 1954 https://worldradiohistory.com/Popular-Electronics-Guide.htm Of course they save the world,

Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500

what could they do that would  update them make them taller like the K4 On 6/17/2020 12:47 AM, Don Putnick wrote: With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. 73 Don NA6Z

Re: [Elecraft] New Heil HM10 XD Microphone - Poor Design?

headsets four years ago while on a bike trip along the Danube, my kx3's headset cable broke ... not to fear cause in the next village the locals had a 6$ computer headset, which I still keep in the kx3 setup. While it does have some 'rescue" tape on it it still works great. I don't think

Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 Codan Envoy

maybe the real questions are will the KPA500 work withan ALE requirement Band jumping and other cool stuff are essential for  ALE. On 6/29/2020 11:52 AM, Mark Goldberg wrote: I think as a Ham, you can use anything you want on the Ham bands. As a manufacturer to sell it, it may need

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - No RF output

DOES k3 xmit ssb with a mic in usb ? what mode ( TXDATA) are you using ... usually when I have that symptom, turns out that computer sound card is NOT putting out TX audio to rig. On 6/15/2020 4:04 AM, G4BVH wrote: Hi, I have had a fault develop on my K3 whereby there is no RF being

Re: [Elecraft] K3 on motorboat.

looks like they are hunting for military business... the element looks like one of those on the big Chernobyl over the horizon antenna... broadband.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjoPy6drGBQ bill On 6/10/2020 9:02 AM, Donald Wines wrote: Apparently they are a two person company

Re: [Elecraft] K3 on motorboat.

googling shows alot of legal activity,, maybe charleston, SC   too much reading for me . On 6/10/2020 8:23 AM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: Probably Nigeria. Here is a patent for something: 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel

Re: [Elecraft] Self-fusing liquid electrical tape

1 TOWER   6000-20 k      1HOLE  WITH CONCRETE $1000 HUNDREDS OF FEET OF LMR 600   ,  RG213   ETC 4 ANTENNAS    $1600 ROTOR  1600 cadwelds for the 9 10 BURIED ground rodsat the tower   and few more at the house MUST be in the budget. why stray from a great job for a few hundred bucks.  

Re: [Elecraft] Convert a KXUSBa cable to KUSB

db 15  or db9 ( DE9) On 7/17/2020 9:20 AM, Bill Cotter wrote: Somehow in the entropy of the universe and my cluttered shack/shop, I have managed to lose my KUSB cable for my K3. I found the earlier (silver) cable, but it doesn't have the FTDI chip and won't work with Win-10. In the process

Re: [Elecraft] Convert a KXUSBa cable to KUSB

heck    for 13 $ you can get another  usb rs232 ftdi cord Sabrent USB 2.0 to Serial (9-Pin) DB-9 RS-232 Adapter Cable 6ft Cable [FTDI Chipset] (CB-FTDI)

Re: [Elecraft] OT Slightly K3s and Studio Mixer

check out used RDL  ( radio design labs)  products in the 'bay"... build out exactly what you want .. RDL-Radio-Design-Labs-STM-2-Adj-Gain-Microphone-Preamplifier-35-65-dB-Gain a whole range of appropriate products,, On 7/3/2020 9:07 AM, Rich wrote: I am interested in using a studio

[Elecraft] test

test On 12/5/2020 4:20 PM, Irwin Darack wrote: I have an Elecraft XG2 Signal Generator for Sale . This is a used Elecraft's XG2 3-Band Test Oscillator Signal Generator. The XG2 uses a crystal oscillator and is ideal for receiver testing, alignment and S-Meter calibration. * RF Output Level: 1

Re: [Elecraft] K3S MIC Problem

MIC ISSUES... "" The MIC cable (and the K3S) both sit next to an Alpha "" I think the proximity of the antenna/s is more relevant than the position of the amp box. I don't see a tower in the QRZ page view, so maybe there are some "close to the shack" antenna wires ? bill On

Re: [Elecraft] CM-500 dynamic mic vs electret

in our ham classes  it's very easy to explain dynamic mics... it is just a speaker  !!!  so if you apply a bias voltage it will try to push the dynamic element   ( speaker cone) in or out & HOLD IT   making it difficult for audio to create an AC alternating current on that same , (now

Re: [Elecraft] K3S RX OUT

mfj makes a little box that does just that https://mfjenterprises.com/products/mfj-1708b-sdr good to see you on nidxa zoom stay well On 11/14/2020 11:38 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote: There's no reason why you can't do this. You would however have to be very careful that the SDRPlay is

Re: [Elecraft] Different focus

I listened to Eric & Wayne proclamations , and did not hear either say that  the "subtractive " algorithms were going into the k4.  sooner or later. I believe that that is what BHI uses bill On 1/24/2021 12:07 PM, John Stengrevics wrote: Evert, As one who suffers from such noise, I

Re: [Elecraft] Long messages

thunderbird... I made the change to Thunderbird years ago. I hesitated a few years , as I remember there was some feature of Eudora that I had to give up relating to the folders and sorting ... life changes ... HNY On 1/4/2021 2:02 AM, Dave Cole wrote: I too use Thunderbird, and it is

[Elecraft] 10 mhz problem ...while running tx gain

i am very rarely on 10 mHz, while running tx gain set , the calibration fails at 10mhz due to   SWR 3.3-1 TOO HIGH FOR CALIBRATION. checking other bands..160- 6 all read low swr lp-100 & WATERS swr/load  read low swr .   hi swr  just reads on radio & faults the tx gain procedure

Re: [Elecraft] 10 mhz problem ...while running tx gain

disregard .   something is amiss in the lines... time to get out the drawings... stay well On 1/28/2021 10:50 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: i am very rarely on 10 mHz, -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: [Elecraft] Demure Request

sorry    It looks like my friend Dave  has been hacked  BADLY... with the amazon scam . "i need a gift card for my relative " I don't even know that is return is really Dave's email   or just to the scammer. another friend on comcast had     all of his emails ALSOI going to a hacker 

Re: [Elecraft] K4 Lore

On 6/4/2021 1:19 AM, Jim Brown wrote: On 6/3/2021 9:40 PM, John Nicholson wrote: Yes and no; both the IC-7610 and FTdx101 models include an internal tuner without an optional charge. From its beginnings, a key element of Elecraft's business model has been to make their products modular,

[Elecraft] using secondary HDMI screen ....

Will this work ?? using a waveshare 7" touchscreen screen for a rasberry pi .. also my RFKIT LDMOS amp. does it seem doable to use the touch feature on this 60$ screen hooking the Waveshare's USBmini (touch ) to a USB on the k4 As I plot my station for the arrival of a K4 !!!

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 ANT1 problem

I'll bet he meant Amphenol On 7/12/2021 12:01 PM, Hugo Loranger wrote: Hi Jim, So Amphenol, DX Engineering, RF Industries, Times Microwave, Andrews, are not recommended? Only Belden? Hugo Message: 13 Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 21:05:21 -0700 From: Jim Brown

Re: [Elecraft] Sherwood Engineering

looks like he is working on his "" Receiver Performance page On 5/5/2021 8:42 AM, Mike Cox wrote: Check for his information. ...Mike, AB9V On 5/5/2021 8:28 AM, Richard Donner wrote: I noticed that sherweng is gone from the internet. Anyone have information about this? tu

Re: [Elecraft] K4 whining

I thank Mike for this subject line, and would request that all whining follow on with this subject line. This will allow me to appropriately send all said subject line to it own email folder. I can speak to this as I did plop down all the bucks at Dayton. bill  ny9h On 3/31/2021 3:25

Re: [Elecraft] Big Knob Fail

a VERY BIG no-no  is to ship an ICOM 7800 without removing the very nice weighted main VFO knob. IT IS A WELL KNOWN DISASTER TO HAPPEN.  It does not tear up the bearing  IT BENDS THE SHAFT   OMG.  And since the 7800 weighs 80 LBS in the double box, it costs over 100$ to ship one

Re: [Elecraft] Mic headset for K3

hey Jim, maybe we can start a trend to get all the essb & AUDIO guys on ham radio to get ribbon mics? since there is nothing "special" about condenser mics anymore. if they think neumann's are cool..  they'd probably want something more esoteric like a ribbon ? now that would go

Re: [Elecraft] Reversed K4 Rear Panel Drawing

for my K3 I made a reverse upside down  copy from the manual, and placed it on the top cover rear  ... it showed a top down drawing so I could reach back and all would be in proper order top to bottom... yet to do for my k4,,, __

[Elecraft] NOT ENOUGH COM PORTS ????

WITH MY NEW k4   have no need for this CAT router.   works great with K3  providing provides extra RS232 ports & USB    for logging, amplifier ETC,,, * Radio RS-232 to USB interface * 3 additional RS-232 ports to route radio data to your amp and other accessories * Selectable baud rate

Re: [Elecraft] Band pass filters

well said at field day  that famous SDR, very reasonably priced, abundant with features DID INDEED SPREAD wide band noise ..it was on 10 and wiped out all thru 80 meters on three other radios  of various makes. ( mine was a k3) ... maybe all we needed was to have bandpass filters for

[Elecraft] k pod repair

one of my f switches is intermittent...    reloading the macro did not help at all anyone know the mouser or digikey part number __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

[Elecraft] test sri cu at dayton

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