[Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

2013-09-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
Dear OMs and Yls,
I just took delivery of a KX1 purchased used.   I am most impressed with
the small radio and have now made four QSOs with fellow EUs running 4 Watts
to a 4 el SteppIR at 24M.   Well the test will come when I change over to a
hank of wire operated against a counterpoise.   The receiver is amazing to
me and the transmitter pretty good.So much is in such a small package.

My main gripe just now is the lousy paddle which comes with the KX1 as a
option.I also have a KX3 also purchased used and waiting for me in
Connecticut.   It has a paddle which I have tried on my friends KX3 - this
paddle is much better than the one on the KX1.Can I swap the KX3 paddle
onto the KX1?I know Bengali has an elegant wee paddle which mounts on
the KX1 or KX3 depending on the attachment purchased.   This may be my
ultimate solution but the KX3 paddle if it mounts would be a big help.

   I do not want to carry around an external paddle weighing more than the
KX1.   The extremely small size and weight have a great attraction to me.
Having a big bag of accessories is not to my liking.   A simple radio and
some wire seems to be ideal for me.The KX3 is for different
applications.

   The receiver is great fun on both CW and SSB and the stability of it
impresses me.  Today was discussing the old Hallicrafters SX28 and you know
the KX1 seems to have a better receiver.  I think this small wonder is great
fun and can see why Elecraft has kept it in the product line.

   73 Doug EI2CN

K3, KX3, KX1



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

2013-09-07 Thread stan levandowski
Good morning, Doug.  You can not use the KX3PD paddle directly with the 
KX1 because the KX3PD is a two point mount and uses a very 
different plug and jack arrangement, whereas, the KX1PD is a single 
point mount and the plug is an integral 1/8 inch stereo.


If you wanted to use the KX3PD with the KX1 you would have to fabricate 
your own transition mount.


The Begali Adventure that you refer to will work on both radios because 
you would purchase individual mounts for each of the radios. 


Yes, the KX1 is a *still* a neat little rig and I frequently take it 
out, instead of my KX3, just because the QSOs earned on 900 milliwatts 
with a 26 foot piece of wire and a 16' counterpoise are very rewarding. 


73, Stan WB2LQF
 
 
 On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 07:09 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
 
  Dear OMs and Yls,
I just took delivery of a KX1 purchased used.   I am most 
impressed with
the small radio and have now made four QSOs with fellow EUs running 4 
Watts
to a 4 el SteppIR at 24M.   Well the test will come when I change over 
to a
hank of wire operated against a counterpoise.   The receiver is 
amazing to
me and the transmitter pretty good.So much is in such a small 
package.


My main gripe just now is the lousy paddle which comes with the 
KX1 as a

option.I also have a KX3 also purchased used and waiting for me in
Connecticut.   It has a paddle which I have tried on my friends KX3 - 
this
paddle is much better than the one on the KX1.Can I swap the KX3 
paddle
onto the KX1?I know Bengali has an elegant wee paddle which mounts 
on

the KX1 or KX3 depending on the attachment purchased.   This may be my
ultimate solution but the KX3 paddle if it mounts would be a big help.

   I do not want to carry around an external paddle weighing more than 
the
KX1.   The extremely small size and weight have a great attraction to 
me.
Having a big bag of accessories is not to my liking.   A simple radio 
and

some wire seems to be ideal for me.The KX3 is for different
applications.

   The receiver is great fun on both CW and SSB and the stability of 
it
impresses me.  Today was discussing the old Hallicrafters SX28 and you 
know
the KX1 seems to have a better receiver.  I think this small wonder is 
great

fun and can see why Elecraft has kept it in the product line.

   73 Doug EI2CN

K3, KX3, KX1



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

2013-09-07 Thread EricJ
I found the KX1 paddle to be, at best, an acquired skill. One that I 
chose not to acquire. I used the frame to homebrew a tiny touch paddle, 
but that was just for fun. It worked very nicely,but required a button 
battery that I didn't want to have to depend on when camping. I settled 
on the Palm Mini Paddle. It's a lot cheaper than the Bengali Adventure 
(which wasn't available then), and is an excellent performer, nearly 
indestructible and packs very small. They make a mount to put it on the 
KX1, but I find a paddle bolted to a rig to be too inflexible for 
comfortable operating.


Eric
KE6US

On 9/7/2013 4:09 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:

Dear OMs and Yls,
 I just took delivery of a KX1 purchased used.   I am most impressed with
the small radio and have now made four QSOs with fellow EUs running 4 Watts
to a 4 el SteppIR at 24M.   Well the test will come when I change over to a
hank of wire operated against a counterpoise.   The receiver is amazing to
me and the transmitter pretty good.So much is in such a small package.

 My main gripe just now is the lousy paddle which comes with the KX1 as a
option.I also have a KX3 also purchased used and waiting for me in
Connecticut.   It has a paddle which I have tried on my friends KX3 - this
paddle is much better than the one on the KX1.Can I swap the KX3 paddle
onto the KX1?I know Bengali has an elegant wee paddle which mounts on
the KX1 or KX3 depending on the attachment purchased.   This may be my
ultimate solution but the KX3 paddle if it mounts would be a big help.

I do not want to carry around an external paddle weighing more than the
KX1.   The extremely small size and weight have a great attraction to me.
Having a big bag of accessories is not to my liking.   A simple radio and
some wire seems to be ideal for me.The KX3 is for different
applications.

The receiver is great fun on both CW and SSB and the stability of it
impresses me.  Today was discussing the old Hallicrafters SX28 and you know
the KX1 seems to have a better receiver.  I think this small wonder is great
fun and can see why Elecraft has kept it in the product line.

73 Doug EI2CN

K3, KX3, KX1



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

2013-09-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi Eric,
   I thought of the palm mini but like the idea of a paddle attached to the
KX1/KX3.   We agree the KX1 paddle sucks.   Sorry Elecraft, I have an awful
lot that is good to say about you but your KXPD1 is not one of them.   Truth
should not be suppressed.
73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of EricJ
Sent: 07 September 2013 18:58
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

I found the KX1 paddle to be, at best, an acquired skill. One that I 
chose not to acquire. I used the frame to homebrew a tiny touch paddle, 
but that was just for fun. It worked very nicely,but required a button 
battery that I didn't want to have to depend on when camping. I settled 
on the Palm Mini Paddle. It's a lot cheaper than the Bengali Adventure 
(which wasn't available then), and is an excellent performer, nearly 
indestructible and packs very small. They make a mount to put it on the 
KX1, but I find a paddle bolted to a rig to be too inflexible for 
comfortable operating.

Eric
KE6US

On 9/7/2013 4:09 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
 Dear OMs and Yls,
  I just took delivery of a KX1 purchased used.   I am most impressed
with
 the small radio and have now made four QSOs with fellow EUs running 4
Watts
 to a 4 el SteppIR at 24M.   Well the test will come when I change over to
a
 hank of wire operated against a counterpoise.   The receiver is amazing to
 me and the transmitter pretty good.So much is in such a small package.

  My main gripe just now is the lousy paddle which comes with the KX1
as a
 option.I also have a KX3 also purchased used and waiting for me in
 Connecticut.   It has a paddle which I have tried on my friends KX3 - this
 paddle is much better than the one on the KX1.Can I swap the KX3
paddle
 onto the KX1?I know Bengali has an elegant wee paddle which mounts on
 the KX1 or KX3 depending on the attachment purchased.   This may be my
 ultimate solution but the KX3 paddle if it mounts would be a big help.

 I do not want to carry around an external paddle weighing more than
the
 KX1.   The extremely small size and weight have a great attraction to me.
 Having a big bag of accessories is not to my liking.   A simple radio and
 some wire seems to be ideal for me.The KX3 is for different
 applications.

 The receiver is great fun on both CW and SSB and the stability of it
 impresses me.  Today was discussing the old Hallicrafters SX28 and you
know
 the KX1 seems to have a better receiver.  I think this small wonder is
great
 fun and can see why Elecraft has kept it in the product line.

 73 Doug EI2CN

 K3, KX3, KX1



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

2013-09-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Proof again that one cannot make a standardize something as personal as a
key and please everyone. 

I like the KXPD1 paddle. It's not my first choice for paddles (At home I use
Scotia paddles when not on my Speed-X Bug) but I would not care to take
either the Scotia or Speed-X into the field with me. 

I almost never exceed 30 wpm because virtually none of the stations I work
exceeds that speed. My requirement for a key is something that I can
comfortably use to chew the rag at 20 WPM or so for an hour or so and
which will fit in the tiny bag my KX1 travels in along with an antenna and
earbuds without danger of damaging it.

With that criteria, the little KXPD1 is a perfect choice for me. 

73, Ron AC7AC 


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 12:10 PM
To: 'EricJ'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

Hi Eric,
   I thought of the palm mini but like the idea of a paddle attached to the
KX1/KX3.   We agree the KX1 paddle sucks.   Sorry Elecraft, I have an awful
lot that is good to say about you but your KXPD1 is not one of them.   Truth
should not be suppressed.
73 Doug EI2CN


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

2013-09-07 Thread Donald Butler
I think we often become much too critical and forget that the KX1 and
KXPD1 are designed for portable use, particularly light backpacking and
portable operation.  I therefore believe it is unfair to compare them
with other paddles and transceivers.  I own a KX1/KDPD1 and a KX3/KXPD3,
and also have two K3s (with which I use a Begali Magnetic Signature
paddle).  The Begali is far, far superior to these small portable
paddles of course ... As it should be the KXPD3 is better than the
KXPD1 . but as far as I'm concerned the KXPD1 is also perfectly
satisfactory for the type of operation for which it is primarily
intended.  I did have difficulty when I first got it, but quickly
learned that it works almost perfectly if I squeeze the paddles at the
very tips rather than the mid-paddle area..in my hands it was that
simple to solve the problem.

I think the KX1 and KX3 are both engineering marvels and I love them
both.  When I'm operating portable, I think an occasional dropped dit or
dah is a very small price to pay for the convenience of having light,
easy to carry paddles securely mounted to a totally self-contained
portable transceiver.

Don, N5LZ


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 1:10 PM
To: 'EricJ'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question


Hi Eric,
   I thought of the palm mini but like the idea of a paddle attached to
the
KX1/KX3.   We agree the KX1 paddle sucks.   Sorry Elecraft, I have an
awful
lot that is good to say about you but your KXPD1 is not one of them.
Truth
should not be suppressed.
73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of EricJ
Sent: 07 September 2013 18:58
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

I found the KX1 paddle to be, at best, an acquired skill. One that I 
chose not to acquire. I used the frame to homebrew a tiny touch paddle, 
but that was just for fun. It worked very nicely,but required a button 
battery that I didn't want to have to depend on when camping. I settled 
on the Palm Mini Paddle. It's a lot cheaper than the Bengali Adventure 
(which wasn't available then), and is an excellent performer, nearly 
indestructible and packs very small. They make a mount to put it on the 
KX1, but I find a paddle bolted to a rig to be too inflexible for 
comfortable operating.

Eric
KE6US

On 9/7/2013 4:09 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
 Dear OMs and Yls,
  I just took delivery of a KX1 purchased used.   I am most
impressed
with
 the small radio and have now made four QSOs with fellow EUs running 4
Watts
 to a 4 el SteppIR at 24M.   Well the test will come when I change over
to
a
 hank of wire operated against a counterpoise.   The receiver is
amazing to
 me and the transmitter pretty good.So much is in such a small
package.

  My main gripe just now is the lousy paddle which comes with the 
 KX1
as a
 option.I also have a KX3 also purchased used and waiting for me in
 Connecticut.   It has a paddle which I have tried on my friends KX3 -
this
 paddle is much better than the one on the KX1.Can I swap the KX3
paddle
 onto the KX1?I know Bengali has an elegant wee paddle which mounts
on
 the KX1 or KX3 depending on the attachment purchased.   This may be my
 ultimate solution but the KX3 paddle if it mounts would be a big help.

 I do not want to carry around an external paddle weighing more 
 than
the
 KX1.   The extremely small size and weight have a great attraction to
me.
 Having a big bag of accessories is not to my liking.   A simple radio
and
 some wire seems to be ideal for me.The KX3 is for different
 applications.

 The receiver is great fun on both CW and SSB and the stability of 
 it impresses me.  Today was discussing the old Hallicrafters SX28 and 
 you
know
 the KX1 seems to have a better receiver.  I think this small wonder is
great
 fun and can see why Elecraft has kept it in the product line.

 73 Doug EI2CN

 K3, KX3, KX1



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

2013-09-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
Don, Your points are taken.   The KXPD3 is by far a better paddle than the
KXPD1 from this operator's point of view.   I can struggle with the KXPD1
but hate it so the very dear Bengali will probably be my solution.   We are
all different but for me the KXPD1 does not meet Elecraft standards.   The
KX1 on the other hand is a marvel for such a small box.   Thank you for your
tips!   I will keep them in mind and soldier on with the KXPD1 until a
Bengali is in my hands.It is too bad the KXPD3 can not be used with the
KX1.  We are all entitled and perhaps I am just not good enough to use the
KXPD1.   73 Doug EI2CN and thank you again.   

-Original Message-
From: Donald Butler [mailto:n...@comcast.net] 
Sent: 07 September 2013 20:01
To: 'Doug Turnbull'; 'EricJ'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

I think we often become much too critical and forget that the KX1 and
KXPD1 are designed for portable use, particularly light backpacking and
portable operation.  I therefore believe it is unfair to compare them
with other paddles and transceivers.  I own a KX1/KDPD1 and a KX3/KXPD3,
and also have two K3s (with which I use a Begali Magnetic Signature
paddle).  The Begali is far, far superior to these small portable
paddles of course ... As it should be the KXPD3 is better than the
KXPD1 . but as far as I'm concerned the KXPD1 is also perfectly
satisfactory for the type of operation for which it is primarily
intended.  I did have difficulty when I first got it, but quickly
learned that it works almost perfectly if I squeeze the paddles at the
very tips rather than the mid-paddle area..in my hands it was that
simple to solve the problem.

I think the KX1 and KX3 are both engineering marvels and I love them
both.  When I'm operating portable, I think an occasional dropped dit or
dah is a very small price to pay for the convenience of having light,
easy to carry paddles securely mounted to a totally self-contained
portable transceiver.

Don, N5LZ


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 1:10 PM
To: 'EricJ'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question


Hi Eric,
   I thought of the palm mini but like the idea of a paddle attached to
the
KX1/KX3.   We agree the KX1 paddle sucks.   Sorry Elecraft, I have an
awful
lot that is good to say about you but your KXPD1 is not one of them.
Truth
should not be suppressed.
73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of EricJ
Sent: 07 September 2013 18:58
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX1] paddle question

I found the KX1 paddle to be, at best, an acquired skill. One that I 
chose not to acquire. I used the frame to homebrew a tiny touch paddle, 
but that was just for fun. It worked very nicely,but required a button 
battery that I didn't want to have to depend on when camping. I settled 
on the Palm Mini Paddle. It's a lot cheaper than the Bengali Adventure 
(which wasn't available then), and is an excellent performer, nearly 
indestructible and packs very small. They make a mount to put it on the 
KX1, but I find a paddle bolted to a rig to be too inflexible for 
comfortable operating.

Eric
KE6US

On 9/7/2013 4:09 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:
 Dear OMs and Yls,
  I just took delivery of a KX1 purchased used.   I am most
impressed
with
 the small radio and have now made four QSOs with fellow EUs running 4
Watts
 to a 4 el SteppIR at 24M.   Well the test will come when I change over
to
a
 hank of wire operated against a counterpoise.   The receiver is
amazing to
 me and the transmitter pretty good.So much is in such a small
package.

  My main gripe just now is the lousy paddle which comes with the 
 KX1
as a
 option.I also have a KX3 also purchased used and waiting for me in
 Connecticut.   It has a paddle which I have tried on my friends KX3 -
this
 paddle is much better than the one on the KX1.Can I swap the KX3
paddle
 onto the KX1?I know Bengali has an elegant wee paddle which mounts
on
 the KX1 or KX3 depending on the attachment purchased.   This may be my
 ultimate solution but the KX3 paddle if it mounts would be a big help.

 I do not want to carry around an external paddle weighing more 
 than
the
 KX1.   The extremely small size and weight have a great attraction to
me.
 Having a big bag of accessories is not to my liking.   A simple radio
and
 some wire seems to be ideal for me.The KX3 is for different
 applications.

 The receiver is great fun on both CW and SSB and the stability of 
 it impresses me.  Today was discussing the old Hallicrafters SX28 and 
 you
know
 the KX1 seems to have a better receiver.  I think this small wonder is
great
 fun and can see why Elecraft has kept it in the product line

[Elecraft] KX1 Paddle Question

2010-11-07 Thread stan levandowski
Can anyone tell me what size nut will properly fit the little screw that 
secures the paddle to the KX1?

I'm working on a project to fabricate a stand-alone mount for the KX1 
paddle.  I know a 4-40 machine screw fits nicely through the bottom hole 
and also could be used through the top (threaded) hole, but I'd rather 
try to make use of the stock thumb-and-forefinger-operated screw to 
preserve the ability to move the paddle back and forth to the KX1 
quickly and without tools.

I brought the paddle to a hardware store today and nothing seemed to 
mate properly with it !!

73,

Stan Levandowski WB2LQF
HF QRP CW -- Doing more with less for over 50 years!
QCWA #35038   OOTC #4558   NAQCC #4740   SKCC #6488   FISTS #14992
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Paddle Question

2010-11-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Stan,

Since you could not find a match, I would be suspicious of your hardware 
store's stock.
It is 6-32 threads - I just threaded a 6-32 nut onto one of the thumbscrews.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/7/2010 7:41 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
 Can anyone tell me what size nut will properly fit the little screw that
 secures the paddle to the KX1?

 I'm working on a project to fabricate a stand-alone mount for the KX1
 paddle.  I know a 4-40 machine screw fits nicely through the bottom hole
 and also could be used through the top (threaded) hole, but I'd rather
 try to make use of the stock thumb-and-forefinger-operated screw to
 preserve the ability to move the paddle back and forth to the KX1
 quickly and without tools.

 I brought the paddle to a hardware store today and nothing seemed to
 mate properly with it !!

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Paddle Question

2010-11-07 Thread stan levandowski
Don, thanks!  6-32 did fit but with a little wobble.  I just went 
downstairs and ran a known 6-32 nut up a known 6-32 stud and it also 
wobbled a bit!

So 6-32 it is after all!  Funny how one can fail to notice the obvious 
for so long...

Guess I've spent too much time messing around with plastic insert 
locknuts.  They do NOT wobble!

73 and thanks again for confirming the nut.


Stan Levandowski WB2LQF
HF QRP CW -- Doing more with less for over 50 years!
QCWA #35038   OOTC #4558   NAQCC #4740   SKCC #6488   FISTS #14992


On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 Stan,

 Since you could not find a match, I would be suspicious of your 
 hardware store's stock.
 It is 6-32 threads - I just threaded a 6-32 nut onto one of the 
 thumbscrews.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 11/7/2010 7:41 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
 Can anyone tell me what size nut will properly fit the little screw 
 that
 secures the paddle to the KX1?

 I'm working on a project to fabricate a stand-alone mount for the KX1
 paddle.  I know a 4-40 machine screw fits nicely through the bottom 
 hole
 and also could be used through the top (threaded) hole, but I'd 
 rather
 try to make use of the stock thumb-and-forefinger-operated screw to
 preserve the ability to move the paddle back and forth to the KX1
 quickly and without tools.

 I brought the paddle to a hardware store today and nothing seemed to
 mate properly with it !!

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