Re: [Elecraft] CW in SSB mode

2015-02-12 Thread Roger D Johnson
It's normal, Dave. I've been trying to get Elecraft to change this for years. 
That and the adjustable
bandwidth for the APF always seem to fall through the cracks. I finally bought a 
Autek QF-1A

which helps immensely.

73, Roger


On 2/12/2015 12:38 AM, dyarnes wrote:

Hi All,

I probably missed this somewhere as I don't do SSB all that much.  I can do CW 
in SSB mode, but not when I'm operating split.  It works fine if I am not 
operating split.  I do have the menu set for SSB + CW.  Am I doing something 
wrong?


Dave W7AQK


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[Elecraft] CW in SSB mode

2015-02-11 Thread dyarnes

Hi All,

I probably missed this somewhere as I don't do SSB all that much.  I can do 
CW in SSB mode, but not when I'm operating split.  It works fine if I am not 
operating split.  I do have the menu set for SSB + CW.  Am I doing something 
wrong?


Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-18 Thread Don Wilhelm

The real answer here is that the K3 always indicates the carrier frequency.
There is no shift on SSB.
When changing from SSB to CW, the receive frequency is shifted by the 
amount of the sidetone pitch.
The result is that the CW signal is now at an audio frequency of zero, 
which neither your ears nor the K3 audio stages can detect.


The K3 does have a CW in SSB menu setting that modifies that behavior 
and will allow one to send CW while in SSB mode.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/14/2014 4:51 PM, HREFAB wrote:

I notice that I can often hear CW on SSB but when I switch to CW, the signal
is lost. I'm talking about very strong signals, not stuff in the background.
Is there something that I'm doing wrong to not be able to copy them on CW?




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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-15 Thread Edward R Cole
I give up...didn't find any Autoshift in the menus of either the K3 
or KX3.  Is this about some other radio?  Or is a feature of some 
early vs of firmware long gone?  I'll admit not updating the K3 
lately (vs 4.81).


In doing frequency drift measurements I noted that Frequency seen in 
USB mode is different than what is seen in CW mode.  The shift 
appears to be that of the sidetone frequency which I have set to 
550-Hz for performing the temperature compensation procedure on the KX3.


To hear the test signal in USB I have to retune the VFO if I switch 
from CW.  I have a good ear for tone frequency so am able to tune in 
the test signal in USB to match the CW sidetone frequency.  That 
requires moving the dial about 550 Hz.  If on the wrong sideband you 
will *not* hear it.


73, Ed - KL7UW

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And enable auto-shift in the menu when switching from CW to SSB and vice
versa, otherwise you will still have to retune to get signal into the
passband again.

73, Olli

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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-15 Thread Sam Morgan

I believe you will find it under CW Weight in the manual

here is the snipit from the manual

CW WGHT 1.15 Adjusts element/space timing ratio (weight) for the 
internal keyer.

Additional functions of this menu entry, via numeric keypad (Advanced):
Tap 1 to select SSB -CW (default) or SSB +CW (allows CW in SSB modes).
Tap 2 to select @ = STOP (‘@’ character terminates KY-packet transmission;
default) or @ = ‘AC’ (‘@’ in a KY packet is sent as .--.-. [@] in CW mode).
Tap 3 to select OLD or NEW QSK (default). NEW reduces AF keying artifacts.
Tap 4 to select VOX NOR (default) or AUTO OFF. The AUTO OFF setting
turns CW VOX off on power-up, avoiding accidental keying by attached 
PCs, etc.

Tap 5 to select automatic VFO offset on SSB/CW mode change (VFO OFS) or
no offset (VFO NOR, default). Automatic offset is often used on 6 
meters, where

mixed-mode QSOs are necessary during fading. Note: Pitch matching will be
more accurate if USB is paired with CW REV, and LSB with CW normal.

I think it is the Tap 5 part
sm

On 5/15/2014 11:12 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:

I give up...didn't find any Autoshift in the menus of either the K3 or
KX3.  Is this about some other radio?  Or is a feature of some early vs
of firmware long gone?  I'll admit not updating the K3 lately (vs 4.81).

In doing frequency drift measurements I noted that Frequency seen in USB
mode is different than what is seen in CW mode.  The shift appears to be
that of the sidetone frequency which I have set to 550-Hz for performing
the temperature compensation procedure on the KX3.

To hear the test signal in USB I have to retune the VFO if I switch from
CW.  I have a good ear for tone frequency so am able to tune in the test
signal in USB to match the CW sidetone frequency.  That requires moving
the dial about 550 Hz.  If on the wrong sideband you will *not* hear it.

73, Ed - KL7UW

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And enable auto-shift in the menu when switching from CW to SSB and vice
versa, otherwise you will still have to retune to get signal into the
passband again.

73, Olli

Contest, DX  radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-15 Thread Nr4c
Chk manual page 55 for details.  

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


 On May 15, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:
 
 I give up...didn't find any Autoshift in the menus of either the K3 or KX3. 
  Is this about some other radio?  Or is a feature of some early vs of 
 firmware long gone?  I'll admit not updating the K3 lately (vs 4.81).
 
 In doing frequency drift measurements I noted that Frequency seen in USB mode 
 is different than what is seen in CW mode.  The shift appears to be that of 
 the sidetone frequency which I have set to 550-Hz for performing the 
 temperature compensation procedure on the KX3.
 
 To hear the test signal in USB I have to retune the VFO if I switch from CW.  
 I have a good ear for tone frequency so am able to tune in the test signal in 
 USB to match the CW sidetone frequency.  That requires moving the dial about 
 550 Hz.  If on the wrong sideband you will *not* hear it.
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW
 
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 And enable auto-shift in the menu when switching from CW to SSB and vice
 versa, otherwise you will still have to retune to get signal into the
 passband again.
 
 73, Olli
 
 Contest, DX  radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW
 http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-15 Thread Mike Reublin
Bill -

Which revision of the manual? I don't see anything on p. 55 that relates. The 
menu caption might help.

73, Mike NF4L

On May 15, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Nr4c n...@widomaker.com wrote:

 Chk manual page 55 for details.  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 ...nr4c. bill
 
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote:
 
 I give up...didn't find any Autoshift in the menus of either the K3 or 
 KX3.  Is this about some other radio?  Or is a feature of some early vs of 
 firmware long gone?  I'll admit not updating the K3 lately (vs 4.81).
 
 In doing frequency drift measurements I noted that Frequency seen in USB 
 mode is different than what is seen in CW mode.  The shift appears to be 
 that of the sidetone frequency which I have set to 550-Hz for performing the 
 temperature compensation procedure on the KX3.
 
 To hear the test signal in USB I have to retune the VFO if I switch from CW. 
  I have a good ear for tone frequency so am able to tune in the test signal 
 in USB to match the CW sidetone frequency.  That requires moving the dial 
 about 550 Hz.  If on the wrong sideband you will *not* hear it.
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW
 
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 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB
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 And enable auto-shift in the menu when switching from CW to SSB and vice
 versa, otherwise you will still have to retune to get signal into the
 passband again.
 
 73, Olli
 
 Contest, DX  radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de
 
 73, Ed - KL7UW
 http://www.kl7uw.com
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   dubus...@gmail.com
 
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[Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread HREFAB
I notice that I can often hear CW on SSB but when I switch to CW, the signal
is lost. I'm talking about very strong signals, not stuff in the background.
Is there something that I'm doing wrong to not be able to copy them on CW?



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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread Bruce Beford
Assuming a K3 (not given in subject line):
Possibly a case where the sideband received when on SSB is opposite what it
is when switching to CW (for the given band). You could try switching to
CW-R (for reverse).
Bruce N1RX

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Subject: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

I notice that I can often hear CW on SSB but when I switch to CW, the signal
is lost. I'm talking about very strong signals, not stuff in the background.
Is there something that I'm doing wrong to not be able to copy them on CW?





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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread Oliver Dröse


And enable auto-shift in the menu when switching from CW to SSB and vice 
versa, otherwise you will still have to retune to get signal into the 
passband again.


73, Olli

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Am 14.05.2014 23:01, schrieb Bruce Beford:

Assuming a K3 (not given in subject line):
Possibly a case where the sideband received when on SSB is opposite what it
is when switching to CW (for the given band). You could try switching to
CW-R (for reverse).
Bruce N1RX

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Subject: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

I notice that I can often hear CW on SSB but when I switch to CW, the signal
is lost. I'm talking about very strong signals, not stuff in the background.
Is there something that I'm doing wrong to not be able to copy them on CW?





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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread HREFAB
Sorry for not identifying the mode (it's a KX3) now should be reflected in
the title. Anyway, thanks for the input. Switching to rev doesn't seem to
have any effect. Seems pretty odd to me that I can hear the signal on SSB
but not on CW (Not to say that I don't get CW signals, just that some which
appear on SSB aren't available on CW). Still looking for a solution.

THanks
Jim / KD2FIP



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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread Bruce Beford
More info might help, Jim.
Band, Freq, filter width settings? For example: Is it possible you are
hearing CW at a relatively high pitch while in SSB, and when you switch to
CW, it is just outside the (narrower) filter width?

Around hear, you mostly here CW with SSB at the lower end of 40M. There is
an age old Canadian SSB net that meets right about 7.055, where there is
also a lot of CW activity...

Bruce
N1RX

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

Sorry for not identifying the mode (it's a KX3) now should be reflected in
the title. Anyway, thanks for the input. Switching to rev doesn't seem to
have any effect. Seems pretty odd to me that I can hear the signal on SSB
but not on CW (Not to say that I don't get CW signals, just that some which
appear on SSB aren't available on CW). Still looking for a solution.

THanks
Jim / KD2FIP




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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2014-05-14 Thread briana
This autoshift feature had the property of reporting the wrong spot 
frequencies after returning to CW mode.   Something like that..   I 
disabled it because of the problem.   This was when it was first 
introduced, this possibly has been fixed in updates.


73 de Brian/K3KO

On 5/14/2014 5:22 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote:


And enable auto-shift in the menu when switching from CW to SSB and 
vice versa, otherwise you will still have to retune to get signal into 
the passband again.


73, Olli

Contest, DX  radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de


Am 14.05.2014 23:01, schrieb Bruce Beford:

Assuming a K3 (not given in subject line):
Possibly a case where the sideband received when on SSB is opposite 
what it

is when switching to CW (for the given band). You could try switching to
CW-R (for reverse).
Bruce N1RX

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HREFAB

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

I notice that I can often hear CW on SSB but when I switch to CW, the 
signal
is lost. I'm talking about very strong signals, not stuff in the 
background.
Is there something that I'm doing wrong to not be able to copy them 
on CW?






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[Elecraft] CW in SSB mode

2012-08-13 Thread Tom Boucher
Not true Pete: 
CONFIG: CW WGHT and tap '1' until you see 'SSB+CW'

73
Tom G3OLB

Besides, you can't key the rig if you're in ssb.

Pete, W1RM

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[Elecraft] CW in SSB Mode

2012-03-26 Thread Bill Ross
When I read the info about being able to send CW while in USB/LSB, on the same 
freq. I set it up on my K3.  And it works fine, except that I notice that when 
in SSB Mode, and keying with my paddle or SK, that the SWR bars disappear. That 
is, if I tune the antenna to the freq I’m on, and lets say I have two bars of 
SWR when in SSB and talking or whistling, when I key the transmitter  with the 
paddle or SK, there are no bars displayed. Is this normal, or, did I do 
something wrong in the setup? 

Tnx for any help,

73, Bill, k6mgo
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[Elecraft] CW on SSB

2012-02-24 Thread Phil Theis
Hi,
I thought that there was a setting that would permit me to send cw while 
listening in the SSB mode.
Is this possible?  Seems to me I had this set up at one time, but cannot 
find the right combination to do so now.
Thanks,
Phil K3TUF
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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2012-02-24 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Phil,

Your subject line doesn't indicate a K3, but seems likely that's what
the question is about.

1.  Go to CONFIG:CW WGHT 
2.  Press the '1' key until you see SSB +CW
3.  Exit CONFIG:CW WGHT

This is in the Owner's Manual, on p54 (in Rev D5).

73,

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:34:54 -0500, you wrote:

Hi,
I thought that there was a setting that would permit me to send cw while 
listening in the SSB mode.
Is this possible?  Seems to me I had this set up at one time, but cannot 
find the right combination to do so now.
Thanks,
Phil K3TUF
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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2012-02-24 Thread Phil Theis
Bingo, that's it.
Thanks all,
73,
Phil K3TUF

On 2/24/2012 2:19 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
 Hi Phil,

 Your subject line doesn't indicate a K3, but seems likely that's what
 the question is about.

 1.  Go to CONFIG:CW WGHT
 2.  Press the '1' key until you see SSB +CW
 3.  Exit CONFIG:CW WGHT

 This is in the Owner's Manual, on p54 (in Rev D5).

 73,

 On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:34:54 -0500, you wrote:

 Hi,
 I thought that there was a setting that would permit me to send cw while
 listening in the SSB mode.
 Is this possible?  Seems to me I had this set up at one time, but cannot
 find the right combination to do so now.
 Thanks,
 Phil K3TUF
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Re: [Elecraft] CW on SSB

2012-02-24 Thread Ariel Jacala

Hi
 
Can this be done on the K2 as well?  I was looking through the manual but can't 
seem to find it.  I know this can be done on the KX-1
 

Ariel NY4G
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[Elecraft] cw vs ssb noise level

2010-07-01 Thread ussv dharma
When in ssb, I have an acceptable noise level, but change to cw and wow does it 
ever risewhat is going on?  or as they say in brooklyn

Wha hoppen?

If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're 
headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM USSV 
DHARMA 


--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Andy Engle andy.en...@live.com wrote:

 From: Andy Engle andy.en...@live.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] Best approach for K1 rx alignment?
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 3:31 PM
 Hey guys!  New Elecrafter
 here...building myself a K1 and having a LOT of fun. 
 Altogether, I'm assembling the K1 with 4-band filter, noise
 blanker, and tuner.
  
 I've built a lot of smaller kits in the past, but this has
 been by far the most ambitious build yet.  I'm happy to
 say that studying all of the builders' guides and
 instructions have kept me from running off the road.  I
 do, however, have one question for the group.
  
 Specifically, I have reached the point in construction (Ch.
 7, Pg. 39) where I am to perform receiver alignment. 
 The instructions suggest, in preference order, a signal
 generator, another ham transceiver, or an antenna. 
 Since things have gone so well this far, I am motivated to
 use the best option and hopefully continue my success
 through this step.
  
 I don't have a signal generator, per se.  I do,
 however, have a VE3DNL marker generator assembled and
 functioning.  Would this be appropriate to use for the
 intended purpose, or do I need a transmitter that is
 natively (that is, not through harmonics like the VE3DNL
 does) transmitting in-band?  Alternatively, would the
 Elecraft XG2 be a better tool for the job?
  
 I am building for 40,30,20,  15but the XG2 is
 3-band only?
  
 Thanks to all for help and kindness to this newbie!
  
 --Andy
 K0ADE
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Re: [Elecraft] cw vs ssb noise level

2010-07-01 Thread The Smiths

Perhaps you have your Width open too wide for CW, remember, you don't need to 
have it open 2KHz wide to use CW.  Perhaps you have your notch filter on Auto 
with SSB and off with CW? Perhaps you have no NR on or NB on while in CW but do 
with SSB? Or perhaps you have a DIFFERENT NR setting on for CW than SSB, or 
even worse, the WRONG settings.. Keep CW at 1-4 and SSB at 5-8 on the NR.

Otherwise, you should be getting the same amount of gain in SSB as you do CW. 
 
 Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 18:55:29 -0700
 From: ussvdha...@yahoo.com
 To: andy.en...@live.com
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] cw vs ssb noise level
 
 When in ssb, I have an acceptable noise level, but change to cw and wow does 
 it ever risewhat is going on? or as they say in brooklyn
 
 Wha hoppen?
 
 If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! 
 Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM USSV DHARMA 
 
 
 --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Andy Engle andy.en...@live.com wrote:
 
  From: Andy Engle andy.en...@live.com
  Subject: [Elecraft] Best approach for K1 rx alignment?
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 3:31 PM
  Hey guys!  New Elecrafter
  here...building myself a K1 and having a LOT of fun. 
  Altogether, I'm assembling the K1 with 4-band filter, noise
  blanker, and tuner.
  
  I've built a lot of smaller kits in the past, but this has
  been by far the most ambitious build yet.  I'm happy to
  say that studying all of the builders' guides and
  instructions have kept me from running off the road.  I
  do, however, have one question for the group.
  
  Specifically, I have reached the point in construction (Ch.
  7, Pg. 39) where I am to perform receiver alignment. 
  The instructions suggest, in preference order, a signal
  generator, another ham transceiver, or an antenna. 
  Since things have gone so well this far, I am motivated to
  use the best option and hopefully continue my success
  through this step.
  
  I don't have a signal generator, per se.  I do,
  however, have a VE3DNL marker generator assembled and
  functioning.  Would this be appropriate to use for the
  intended purpose, or do I need a transmitter that is
  natively (that is, not through harmonics like the VE3DNL
  does) transmitting in-band?  Alternatively, would the
  Elecraft XG2 be a better tool for the job?
  
  I am building for 40,30,20,  15but the XG2 is
  3-band only?
  
  Thanks to all for help and kindness to this newbie!
  
  --Andy
  K0ADE
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