This is the Elecraft way of catching the voice of the customer while
working on the full-dsp K4.
73
Arie PA3A
Op 17-1-2013 3:16, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II schreef:
Seriously? Asking the Elecraft reflector if the K3 is a fun radio to
operate is like asking drug addicted people if they like
I'm late in adding my comments as to fun, as it is after a day at
work reading the digest.
Ham radio is fun (most of the time) and frustrating at others.
I think the K3 has been the best radio I have had and that equals
more fun. It was more challenging to get acquainted with at first,
and
The K3 has an average number of menu entries for a radio in its class.
But we've reduced the need to use the menu in two ways.
First, virtually every switch on the K3 has both tap and hold
functions. This doubles the number of functions available on the panel.
Second, the K3 has up to 10
Now if we only had some decent labels to stick on those 10 switches
Conventional computer labels seem to last a couple weeks before peeling
off. Tiny writing isn't my strength so they are cryptic and only
marginally readable. M1-M4 require diagonal printing.
The other criterion is they have
I never even thought of labeling those little switches.
I use a yellow sticky pad paper that describes the five different macros I have
created and what buttons trigger them. Very simple, easy to update, and right
in front of me. My K3 sits on a shelf about 11 inches above the desk top
On a couple of earlier messages (one from Rob Sherwood) the notion of a fun
radio to operate was raised and how that might become a deciding factor among
many different radios with similar receive performance.
My question is what is a fun radio? I have heard that some think the K3, being
That Yaesu rig to which you refer takes up a lot more space and weighs
several times what my K3 does -- which is another factor.
I find that I rarely use the K3 menus. In my case that was mostly a set
and forget thing. Beyond that I find it very easy and fun to use my K3.
Unlike a brand new,
Fun is in the eye of the beholder.
Pardon the wordplay, but I think it is clear that everyone has their own
vision of fun.
It depends on the operating circumstances as well.
No easy answers...
73, Tony K4QE
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To me, part of what makes a rig fun to operate is, q
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Anthony Scandurra
anthony.scandu...@gmail.com wrote:
Fun is in the eye of the beholder.
Pardon the wordplay, but I think it is clear that everyone has their own
vision of fun.
It depends on the operating
I have owned some yaesu rigs (FT950, 920,450,857D) and most have menus at one
level or another. The FT920 was the easiest one to operate but the other three
had levels of menus similar to the K3.
I think the K3 may have a steeper learning curve compared to those other
radios, but once you get
Sorry, all. I had an extreme fat finger moment and accidentally sent my
incomplete reply.
As I was saying, part of what makes a rig fun to operate is, quite
simply, can I make the contact? To make it a bit more complex, can I make
the contact regardless of what band/mode I'm operating on. With
Fun is being able to work a weak station in between two strong ones -
the K3 can do that.
With the subRX, you can listen to the DX and the pileup and pick your
transmit frequency - that is 'fun'.
Like my Mazda, it is 'sure-footed' in curves and has good performance -
that makes it 'fun' to
I too agree that the notion of fun is in the eye of the beholder. In some
social gatherings, my wife might mention that I regularly take math books to
bed at night for casual night time reading. Things like differential geometry,
topology, group theory, etc. There are the obvious chuckles
On 1/16/2013 10:03 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
My question is what is a fun radio? I have heard that some think the K3, being
somewhat menu driven, is not a fun radio where as something like a Yaesu with a
button and knob for every function is fun.
You have heard wrong. The radio is VERY easy
On Jan 16, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:
On 1/16/2013 10:03 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
My question is what is a fun radio? I have heard that some think the K3,
being somewhat menu driven, is not a fun radio where as something like a
Yaesu with a button and
Phil,
The ability to use 10 of those 12 buttons is already present - look at
Quick Memories in the manual.
The 'escape' button is the MV button, giving you the 2 button band
change you want.
I almost never use the band up/down buttons on my K3.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 1/16/2013 1:45 PM, Phil Hystad
Is the K3 a fun radio to operate? - Absolutely !!
Are there other fun radios to operate? - Absolutely !!
Now, can we have FUN and make some QSO's (while we have a few sunspots)!
For example, come play in K6VVA's Locust QSO Party
(http://www.k6vva.com/lqp/) which is tonight at 0200-0259z.
73,
On 1/16/2013 10:55 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
No Jim, I have heard right. I hear a lot of people say that the K3 is menu
driven and therefore not easy to operate. On Eham for example, just about
every time someone suggests the K3 as a good radio to have, someone else or
multiple someones will
On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
The... and FT100D are so menu driven for normal on-the-air functions that
they are almost unusable.
That funny. The FT100D and the K3 are the only two HF radios I've ever owned.
The K3 seems to have an impossible amount of front panel
Don,
Thanks for the pointer. For some reason, I never caught on about using the
quick memory buttons. But, now I am so used to using my KPA500 that I will
probably continue to use that.
73, phil
On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Phil,
The ability to
No, he actually did not hear wrong. He heard exactly what was said.
However, what was said was factually incorrect.
73,
Bruce, N1RX
Again, you have heard wrong.
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Yes.
Being able to dial the high cut down to 2.05 kHz and having the 2.1 kHz
filter switch in and not hear the QSO 2 kc down while hearing the net or
round table with just a slight loss of fidelitly adds to my enjoyment of
amateur radio.
Perfection would be if the auto-notch filter took out all
For me, I see three possible elements of fun:
1. Being able to work other stations, without the radio getting in the way
is fun.
2. Being able to tweak settings, trying different things, is also fun.
3. Having an aesthetically pleasing display, being able to make
pretty-colored meters move,
One notion of what might be fun in a radio is one which requires the least
user interaction to achieve the desired communication results.
Dick - KA5KKT
On a couple of earlier messages the notion of a fun radio to operate was
raised.(snip)
Jim Brown, K9YC, wrote:
Another feature is that ANY two menu functions can be assigned to two
soft buttons.
So far in this discussion, I haven't seen any mention of MACRO's, which allow
entire sequences of commands to be assigned
to PF1, PF2, or any of the M1-M4 tap or hold buttons. I find
Phil:
To paraphrase an old guy from Hope, AR, it depends on what
your definition of Fun is.
I think its fun to cozy up 500 cycles below a S9+30 CW
signal and still be able to hear and work S3 signals on my
frequency in a contest.
I think its fun to download new features that the radio
didnt
I guess you should ask yourself what controls need to be accessible
right in front of you without menus.
I mainly operate CW. Here's what I can access immediately without
hitting menu: keyer speed, sidetone pitch level, power output, IF
shift / bandwidth / filter selection, preamp /
Seriously? Asking the Elecraft reflector if the K3 is a fun radio to
operate is like asking drug addicted people if they like drugs.
Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch
Staunton, Illinois
email: mailto:b...@wjschmidt.com
I think the K3 (and K2) are fun radios to operate. We've had a K3 at
our QRP Field Day for the past two years, and the various operators
didn't report any problems that I'm aware of.
Since I made a career in software development, menus are no big deal for
me. A well-designed transceiver has
I might add, Fred Cady's book on the K3 covers pretty much everything,
although there is nothing wrong with the supplied user manual.
I believe that it is sometimes available at a discount from lulu.com
73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Nick,
I am also mostly CW and I rarely use the menus for CW ops. My question though
was not because I was suffering from any lack in using the radio. I was mostly
curious as to what other's opinions are on the idea of a fun radio.
I just realized that I have very limited experience with
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