Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-26 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Mike Cox wrote: > If CONFIG:PB CTRL is set to .01 in CW mode, then, per the function > description in the K3 Owners Manual (pp. 62 in Manual Revision A1), you > will be limited to the Shift/Width controls mode only. Change PB CTRL to > .05 and you

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-26 Thread Mike Cox
If CONFIG:PB CTRL is set to .01 in CW mode, then, per the function description in the K3 Owners Manual (pp. 62 in Manual Revision A1), you will be limited to the Shift/Width controls mode only. Change PB CTRL to .05 and you will also enable LO/HI cut on the controls. 73, Mike On 2/26/2017

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-26 Thread Ted Bryant
Hello F5VJC, Yes! You are correct. Thank you. That solved the problem. 73, Ted W4NZ From: F5vjc [mailto:foxfive@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:48 AM To: Ted Bryant Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush CONFIG PB CTRL SHIFT (set to .05) if set to .01

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-26 Thread Ted Bryant
an.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush Do you have QRQ mode selected (+ showing in the display)? From the Owner's Manual, page 54: > Filter passband SHIFT/LOCUT/HICUT cannot be used when CW QRQ is in > effect. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/26/2017 10:13 AM, Ted Bryant wrote: >

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-26 Thread Ken K3IU
ecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush On Thu,2/23/2017 6:32 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: For reference, here are my preferred AGC and other settings for contesting with a K3 and large CW pileups. Bob's a great op, so I really appreciate seeing his settings. But they're all run to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
bject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush On Thu,2/23/2017 6:32 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: For reference, here are my preferred AGC and other settings for contesting with a K3 and large CW pileups. Bob's a great op, so I really appreciate seeing his settings. But they're all run together in

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-26 Thread Ted Bryant
, 2017 1:54 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush On Thu,2/23/2017 6:32 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > For reference, here are my preferred AGC and other settings for contesting with a K3 and large CW pileups. Bob's a great op, so I really appreciate seeing his

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-25 Thread Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)
You are right, Matt. No HTML, no attachments 73, Peter - PA0PJE Op 24-02-17 om 20:42 schreef Matt Zilmer: The problem might be that the reflector doesn't pass HTML, just text. I'm not sure about this, but remember reading it somewhere. 73, matt W6NIA

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-25 Thread N2TK, Tony
: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush On Thu,2/23/2017 6:32 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > For reference, here are my preferred AGC and other settings for > contesting with a K3 and large CW pileups. Bob's a great op, so I really appreciate seeing his settings. But they're all run together in his

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-24 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I generally run AGC off and the rf gain is never fully open. I will continue to play with settings. My settings were fairly close but I will try these. Thanks for the guide! W0MU On 2/24/2017 12:54 PM, Jim Brown wrote: On Thu,2/23/2017 6:32 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: For reference, here

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-24 Thread Ed Muns
] K3 Receiver mush On Thu,2/23/2017 6:32 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > For reference, here are my preferred AGC and other settings for contesting with a K3 and large CW pileups. Bob's a great op, so I really appreciate seeing his settings. But they're all run together in his em

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-24 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
24, 2017 2:32 PM To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Jim Brown <j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote: > On Thu,2/23/2017 6:32 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > >> For reference, here are my

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
That is a very good list to combat crowded band conditions and allow copy of weak signals near stronger signals. For the last few items on that list, you may want to consider alternatives for selecting the filters and the use of SHIFT. It is a matter of "operating style" - I know Bob is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-24 Thread Matt Zilmer
The problem might be that the reflector doesn't pass HTML, just text. I'm not sure about this, but remember reading it somewhere. 73, matt W6NIA On 2/24/2017 11:31 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Jim Brown wrote: On Thu,2/23/2017

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-24 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > On Thu,2/23/2017 6:32 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > >> For reference, here are my preferred AGC and other settings for >> contesting with a K3 and large CW pileups. >> > > Bob's a great op, so I really appreciate

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-24 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,2/23/2017 6:32 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: For reference, here are my preferred AGC and other settings for contesting with a K3 and large CW pileups. Bob's a great op, so I really appreciate seeing his settings. But they're all run together in his email with no paragraphs or

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-23 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
w0mu wrote > What happens when you turn the AGC off and ride the rf gain? Do these > setting still have some effect or should they be set up differently?I > assume when you use 12/8/soft most people are using AGC-F? Ken, When you experienced the mush, did you have the AGC ON, but the RF Gain set

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Fatchett <w...@w0mu.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:08 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush What happens when you turn the AGC off and ride the rf gain? Do these setting still have some effect or should they be set up differently? I assume when you

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-23 Thread Cady, Fred
e: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush What happens when you turn the AGC off and ride the rf gain? Do these setting still have some effect or should they be set up differently? I assume when you use 12/8/soft most people are using AGC-F? On 2/22/2017 1:54 PM, Irma Linas wrote: > Hi everybody

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-23 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
What happens when you turn the AGC off and ride the rf gain? Do these setting still have some effect or should they be set up differently? I assume when you use 12/8/soft most people are using AGC-F? On 2/22/2017 1:54 PM, Irma Linas wrote: Hi everybody, Following the advice in one of the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-23 Thread Cady, Fred
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush Hi Fred, I think that's fairly easy to explain. *Below* threshold the AGC does not act at all so the SLP settings *should* have no effect. It comes into effect as soon as signal rises above threshold. AB2 TC - Knut Cady, Fred-2 wrote > Thanks Ian I was

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-22 Thread ab2tc
Hi Fred, I think that's fairly easy to explain. *Below* threshold the AGC does not act at all so the SLP settings *should* have no effect. It comes into effect as soon as signal rises above threshold. AB2 TC - Knut Cady, Fred-2 wrote > Thanks Ian I was about to point out those AGC data but you

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver Mush

2017-02-22 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP
I had a problem with clicks on return to receive with older firmware, quite a while back. Make sure you have the latest FW. Wayne fixed a bug which made a big improvement. 73, Vic, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 22 Feb 2017 22:06, Ed G wrote: When I change

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver Mush

2017-02-22 Thread Ed G
When I change the AGC settings to those recommended to minimize the mush: * AGC THR: increase to at least 8 * AGC SLP: decrease to 8 or even less * AGC DCY = SOFT (not default=NOR). It seems to my ears that I am hearing louder clicks when the K3 switches back to receive (CW of course). I

[Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-22 Thread Irma Linas
Hi everybody, Following the advice in one of the posts here, I have changed the AGC settings on my K3+ ( new sync and IO boards as per Elecraft mods kit turning the old K3 actually into K3S). I've put the AGC THR to 12, AGS SLP to 8, AGC DCY to SOFT in the Config menu. Whaw! The efffect was

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-22 Thread Ignacy
I experienced the mush as well and then rode the RF gain. The problem is due to AGC reacting way too fast when in FAST. It seems that higher HLD should solve the issue but it does not. I am wondering whether HLD is applicable to AGC SLOW only? If so, the other choice is to reprogram AGC SLOW, as

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-22 Thread Drew AF2Z
aft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush Re-posting from April 2016, and earlier: 73 from Ian GM3SEK *** The factory default AGC THReshold for the K3 and K3S is very, very low. Measurements by KE7X [1] have shown that the default setting of THR=5 corresponds to an

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-22 Thread Cady, Fred
of Ian White <gm3...@ifwtech.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:42 AM To: 'W0MU Mike Fatchett'; 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush Re-posting from April 2016, and earlier: 73 from Ian GM3SEK *** The factory default AGC THReshold for the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-22 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
new setting is much closer to real life. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: 22 February 2017 00:39 To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush I can run with 400 or 250hz filters. I have tried it wi

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-22 Thread Richard Ferch
Actually it's not the 250 Hz roofing filter that is too narrow, it is the 250 Hz DSP filter setting. If you ignore the label on the roofing filter and configure the K3 to switch the 250 Hz crystal filter in at the 350 Hz DSP setting, the combination (350 Hz DSP, 250 Hz roofing filter) works fine

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-22 Thread Gordon LaPoint
Dave, I do lots of rtty contesting. I have found the 400Hz filter to be just right for rtty. The 250 is too narrow. I then narrow the DSP filter to 300Hz if needed, with the 400Hz Xtal filter in front. Gordon - N1MGO On 02/21/2017 06:27 PM, Dave Fugleberg wrote: Don, that's a great

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-22 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Thanks Ian for bringing all the info back to the list. My settings: slope 9, thr 12, decay soft, pls nor, hld 0.20 , agc-s 20 to 30 (depends...) 73, Arie PA3A __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-22 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP
I remember this, and had forgotten what I set them at. I just looked and I see that I have SLP=003 and THR=14! That is practically no AGC at all. In contests I sometimes turn up the SLP to protect my ears, but for normal DXing this is what I've gotten used to and I like it. 73, Vic, 4X6GP

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-21 Thread Ian White
new setting is much closer to real life. >-Original Message- >From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of >W0MU Mike Fatchett >Sent: 22 February 2017 00:39 >To: Elecraft Reflector >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush > >I can run with

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-21 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I can run with 400 or 250hz filters. I have tried it with AGC fast, slow off etc. I just think this is something that most people just never see. This was a major point of discussion a while back. I guess it is just the way the radio is. I will have to try another rig to see if I notice the

[Elecraft] K3 Receiver Mush

2017-02-21 Thread Dauer, Edward
ft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush Message-ID: <80c5f984-1f08-126b-524d-0042e84f0...@embarqmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Mike, Think about it - if there are multiple signals

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-21 Thread Ken G Kopp
I'm pretty much full time CW and rarely leave the 400 Hz filter. 73 K0PP On Feb 21, 2017 16:52, "Don Wilhelm" wrote: Dave, Yes, a 400Hz filter will work well for RTTY (and CW too). 73, Don W3FPR On 2/21/2017 6:27 PM, Dave Fugleberg wrote: > Don, that's a great

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, Yes, a 400Hz filter will work well for RTTY (and CW too). 73, Don W3FPR On 2/21/2017 6:27 PM, Dave Fugleberg wrote: Don, that's a great explanation. I came to the same conclusion in a recent RTTY contest. I built my K3 with the single stock filter based on advice from a number of folks

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-21 Thread Dave Fugleberg
Don, that's a great explanation. I came to the same conclusion in a recent RTTY contest. I built my K3 with the single stock filter based on advice from a number of folks to 'just operate for awhile til you get the feel for what other filters you need'. I think that's sound advice. Anyhow, I've

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-21 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, Think about it - if there are multiple signals in the passband, the AGC will respond to the strongest, there is just no way around that fact. If the signals can be separated by the DSP, and one is really strong, that strong station may be activating the Hardware AGC. The only solution

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-21 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Sounds like very strong signals with fast agc with its decay set well into fast range. And if you have stations using spot frequency that will really muddle them. I have my fast agc set to its slowest possible decay and my slow agc set to fastest possible decay. Then I only use the fast in heavy

[Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

2017-02-21 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
We noticed again during the contest hat when 3 or 4 stations called, all those signals would be flattened to the same level. Once you got to where one or two stations were calling the signal level would pop up substantially. I have played endlessly with slope and threshold with little effect.