[Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Richard T Perry
Ok, folks - this is off topic, but since y'all have been a font of knowledge about kit building, I thought I would try this question... How hard is SMT soldering, really? I've been lusting after the TAPR Software Defined Radio kit,(http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/Fdsp10.html) but it's majority

RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft parts

2004-08-10 Thread Brian Wruble
Do we know that Elecraft wants to be in this business? I have assumed this was a service they provided as an accommodation to their customers. And, they certainly provide superb service in every regard. My thought has been that I would prefer to source parts elsewhere before I bother Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft parts

2004-08-10 Thread Mike Morrow
Steve wrote: While I agree that Mouser is a super parts source, nothing beats buying Elecraft parts from ... Elecraft! I wonder about a couple of things: (1) Is the supply of parts at least a financial break-even enterprise for Elecraft? Or is it a service provided at a net loss? (2)

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft parts

2004-08-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
I really can't speak for the folks at Elecraft, but ... I take the fact that Elecraft has provided an Elecraft part number in the manuals as 'living proof' that they DO understand they have a need to be in the REPLACEMENT parts business. That assures continuing quality and uniformity of the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Richard, SMT work requires some parts handling techniques and a few pieces of extra equipment if one is to be successful. If you are going to be building electronic equipment, it is something you may want to persue. The first thing needed is to develop a gentle hand with the tweezers to

Re: [Elecraft] K2 L25 and L26

2004-08-10 Thread Mychael Morohovich
Hi, Bob- The K2 set that you have, with L25, L26 each consisting of 16 turns, is for K2 kits that have serial numbers below 3000. Did you buy this set from me? I ask because I keep these older toroid variations in a separate area and only get them out when it is requested of me by a builder with

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Steve, G4GXL
SMT work requires ... a few pieces of extra equipment if one is to be successful One useful piece of 'extra equipment' is a vacuum cleaner with a piece of nylon stocking stretched over the nozzle. Then instead of spending 30 minutes on your hands and knees looking for the SMD component that

[Elecraft] K2 Multiple Birdies Suddenly Appeared. Help!

2004-08-10 Thread Brian Wruble
Hi Guys: I had my K2 (S/N 2528) opened up to replace the thermal pads on Q7 and Q8. This was in the aftermath of installing the KPA100 option. Everything worked fine for a few weeks after installing the KPA100, but I needed to change out the pads as the old ones had gotten threadbare. I am

RE: [Elecraft] K2 Multiple Birdies Suddenly Appeared. Help!

2004-08-10 Thread Brian Wruble
No it is not connected. Thanks for the quick response --- it reached me before my own post reached me! Brian -Original Message- From: W9DHI [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:41 AM To: 'Brian Wruble'; 'Elecraft Discussion List' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K2

RE: [Elecraft] K2 Multiple Birdies Suddenly Appeared. Help!

2004-08-10 Thread W9DHI
Brian do you have the freq. counter lead still plugged into test point 2...it's been mentioned before, especially with the KPA100 installed that you could create problems. However I've been under the impression that the problems would be on the cleanliness of the transmitted signal...just a

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Frank C Van Cleef
With all due respect to those of us who have to squint ever harder to see what used to stand out clearly: I, for one, would be delighted to have a kit based primarily on SMT devices to try my hand at. I have a fine-tip iron and an Optovisor at hand, and I love to build kits, so if SMT is the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Mike Morrow
I would *never* buy any kit that requires more than an item or two of SMT work. SMT construction is specifically designed *only* for machine assembly. IMO, any SMT kit must come with almost all the SMT components pre-assembled to the PC boards to be acceptable. I'm not against SMT. In fact, I

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Rod N0RC
Mike, - Original Message - From: Mike Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? I would *never* buy any kit that requires more than an item or two of SMT work. SMT construction is specifically

RE: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Lesee... The design of clocks, especially mechanical watches, has always fascinated me. I built a 24-inch long model of the USS Constitution once with about half a jillion tiny knots in the rigging, all done by hand using tweezers. With that background, I simply found the advent of SMC's

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Harris
G'day, I would *never* buy any kit that requires more than an item or two of SMT work. SMT construction is specifically designed *only* for machine assembly. IMO, any SMT kit must come with almost all the SMT components pre-assembled to the PC boards to be acceptable. Well I guess through

Re: [Elecraft] K2 L25 and L26

2004-08-10 Thread David Pratt
I have just read Mychael's comments about L25 L26. I appear to have missed the change in the Low-Pass Filter components when I upgraded my Revision A PCB to Revision B. I see from the latest circuit diagram that the filter is labelled 40/60m. What is the reason for the change in the filter

[Elecraft] SMT Kits

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Harris
G'day, Thinking on this, how about: Remote antenna switch. 1. Activated by a dc signal applied via the main co-ax. 2. Drops to an internal load. 3. Sniffs the rf in a tune cycle to determine the frequency. 4. Selects via latching relay the designated output port (co-ax socket) 5.

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread n4gi
- Original Message - From: Mike Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:34 am Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? SMT construction is specifically designed *only* for machine assembly. IMO, any SMT kit must come with almost all the SMT componentspre-assembled

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Trev - K6ESE
Actually, I find surface mount components much easier to replace in most cases than through hole parts. Especially when you are prototyping and you have to change components often. No holes to clean out, no plate throughs to damage, no leads to clip. Once you get used to the size of the parts and

Re: [Elecraft] K2 L25 and L26

2004-08-10 Thread David Pratt
Thank you, Don. I do indeed use the K60XV but have missed any reference to the need to change the LPF. Could you tell me please, where this information was published? 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] said The change was made to allow for 60 meters. If

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Sandy W5TVW
One reason I don't care with SMD stuff, is the cost of proper soldering gear for them! The Optivisor and magnafier florescent lamps I have, who can spend many times more than a kit would cost for an SMD soldering station? (Not to mention looking for missing parts on my unclean room workshop!!)

[Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread wayne burdick
Regarding SMT (surface-mount technology): We will obviously have to use many more SMDs (surface-mount devices) in future kits. But they will all be pre-installed, with rare exceptions. While it is possible to install and remove SMDs by hand, it can require a lot of practice, patience, steady

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread James T. Jim Rogers
Now that Wayne Burdick has a great idea. An introductory kit to SMT devices. That is why I like Elecraft. Thinking folks. As the cordinator for a build day for our local radio club, I embarked upon a small inexpensive kit search that would give our novice builders the biggest

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread Deni
wayne burdick wrote: Regarding SMT (surface-mount technology): We will obviously have to use many more SMDs (surface-mount devices) in future kits. But they will all be pre-installed, with rare exceptions. While it is possible to install and remove SMDs by hand, it can require a lot of

RE: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sandy W5TVW Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:18 PM To: Frank C Van Cleef; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits? One reason I don't care with SMD stuff, is the cost of

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread John Payne
Who needs an expensive soldering station for SMT? I've built a couple of SMT projects with a standard soldering station (using a fine tip)with no problem. If one looks for excuses, one can find them, and never do or learn anything new! There are many cheap and easy tricks for SMT work, if one

RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Wayne wrote: ...it can require a lot of practice, patience, steady nerves, unimpaired vision, and specialized tools. --- Good points, especially when it comes to identifying parts. My experience has been mostly in fixing something. I replace one or two SMDs and I'm done. But reading the

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Bill Tippett
Richard, I already sent you my comments directly as you requested, but feel I should respond to some of the comments posted here. By way of background, the only SMT parts I had used previously were mounting 5 SMT caps on an Inrad roofing filter kit for my Orion. That went well

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Larry Makoski W2LJ
A trick that I learned was to take a long piece of solid bell wire or hookup wire (copper) about 6- 8 inches long. Remove the insulation and wrap a coil around your soldering iron tip. Bring the last bit of wire out, parallel to the axix of the soldering iron. Plug the iron, in, let the wire

RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:34 PM To: 'Elecraft Mail list' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft Wayne wrote: ...it can require a lot of practice, patience, steady

RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Ouch! The stuff that I've see so far has numbers - but really, really, REALLY small in many cases. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Ron You usually do not get identification marks on chip capacitors, melf/SOD80 diodes or SOT23 parts (transistors etc) This is what I see as the biggest

RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread John A. Ross [RSDTV]
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 1:25 AM To: 'Elecraft Mail list' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft Ouch! The stuff that I've see so far has numbers - but really,

[Elecraft] Fw: Perseid Meteors and a Big Sunspot

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Harris
G'day, This might be of interest: snip | Space Weather News for August 10, 2004 | http://spaceweather.com | BIG SUNSPOT: Sunspot 649, which unleashed several powerful solar flares | in July, is back and it's growing again. The large spot has a complex | magnetic field that harbors energy

[Elecraft] XG1 and K2 Signal Tracing

2004-08-10 Thread Tom Mc
Hi gang, I bought and built the K2 with the idea that I'd not only have a pretty decent rig, but that I'd also learn something along the way. With that goal in mind, and realizing that I certainly have a lot to learn, I'll respectfully ask the members of this list, what probably is a pretty

Re: [Elecraft] OT: SMT kits?

2004-08-10 Thread Sandy W5TVW
I have an old Ungar Princess that might work? Someday I mat try SMD out, but I suspect I'll sooner or later drop some parts and probably never find them! 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: John Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sandy W5TVW [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Frank C Van Cleef [EMAIL

[Elecraft] Re: XG1 and K2 Signal Tracing

2004-08-10 Thread wayne burdick
On Aug 10, 2004, at 6:04 PM, Tom Mc wrote: I've also built the XG1 signal generator and would like to trace the signal through my K2. Hi Tom, The signal put out by the XG1 is so low in amplitude that the only point in the circuit you can trace with it is the audio amplifier, and perhaps

RE:[Elecraft] XG1 and K2 Signal Tracing

2004-08-10 Thread James T. Jim Rogers
Tom wrote: The XG1 is not variable in its output, so would the voltages be more or less in the same proportion to those in the manuals which started with a signal of 0.14 Vrms? (I'll be honest I didn't check the XG1 to see what the Vrms output is on it.) Tom in a lot of cases, the

[Elecraft] FS:Elecraft EC-2 Enclosure and ETS15 Tilt Stand

2004-08-10 Thread Dave White
I have 3 EC-2 enclosures complete with ETS15 1.5 tilt stands for sale. All are NEW with all hardware packs and instructions. 55.00 USD each plus $5.00 USD shipping anywhere in North America. I accept PayPal. Please contact me off the reflector if interested (with the word Elecraft in the

Re: [Elecraft] SMT kits and Elecraft

2004-08-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 07:15:01PM -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Nope. Those are smaller than anything I've used! Yeah, I'm aware that many (most?) of the numbers I've seen have nothing to do with any parts I.D. conventions that I know! As a technical writer I work in metric all the