Ihor Radchenko writes:
> Applied, onto main.
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=6954fe93e
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Bastien Guerry writes:
> Ihor Radchenko writes:
>
>> See the attached tentative patch.
>
> LGTM.
Applied, onto main.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=6954fe93e
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
> See the attached tentative patch.
LGTM.
>> 2) Also remove the current C-u C-u C-u arg and make it the default
>>when a region is active.
>> ...
>> (2) should be done anyway.
>
> I studied this further and what you suggest will interfere with
>
Bastien Guerry writes:
> Here is another suggestion:
>
> 1) Remove the option and make adding the dup link on top the default.
>
> (1) is because removing this option would be a breaking change, and
> inflincting a new option to every user to deal with a hypothetical
> use-case does not seem
Samuel Wales writes:
> i currently want to copy a link location and then paste that link
> loadtion. i don't recall theis breaking before. it does now.
Please provide more details. (https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback)
Otherwise, it is very hard to figure out what exactly you
i currently want to copy a link location and then paste that link
loadtion. i don't recall theis breaking before. it does now.
On 8/13/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Bastien Guerry writes:
>
>> Here is another suggestion:
>>
>> 1) Remove the option and make adding the dup link on top the
Bastien Guerry writes:
> Here is another suggestion:
>
> 1) Remove the option and make adding the dup link on top the default.
>
> 2) Also remove the current C-u C-u C-u arg and make it the default
>when a region is active.
>
> (1) is because removing this option would be a breaking change,
Hi Ihor,
Thanks for bearing with me while I discuss something is done, required
time and work, and isn't probably a priority.
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> Bastien Guerry writes:
>
>> (1) by always store the latest link on top and remove old dups.
>>
>> (2) always store latest link at the top and
Bastien Guerry writes:
> (1) by always store the latest link on top and remove old dups.
>
> (2) always store latest link at the top and remove old dups and allow
> to keep dups with 3 universal prefix args.
> ...
> I'm in favor of option (2) as it deals with the above use-case, and
>
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> This would be yet another breaking change...
Of course, you're right!
Then here are two suggestions, assuming it's best to spare us yet
another option:
(1) by always store the latest link on top and remove old dups.
(2) always store latest link at the top and remove
Samuel Wales writes:
> i am confused. org-stored-links is a command? what are the known
> user needs for storing and pasting links?
Typo. Meant to be org-store-link.
> i am also unclear on why we have a dedicated paste function as opposed
> to kill ring. probably a good reason. but wfm.
Bastien writes:
> Ihor Radchenko writes:
>
>> * lisp/ol.el (org-link-store-existing): New customization controlling
>> how to deal with already stored links.
>> (org-store-link): Respect the new customization, allowing duplicates
>> to (1) be added anyway; (2) be ignored; (3) be moved to front
i am confused. org-stored-links is a command? what are the known
user needs for storing and pasting links?
i am also unclear on why we have a dedicated paste function as opposed
to kill ring. probably a good reason. but wfm.
i merely wanted to store then yank a link. which in bugfix errors
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> * lisp/ol.el (org-link-store-existing): New customization controlling
> how to deal with already stored links.
> (org-store-link): Respect the new customization, allowing duplicates
> to (1) be added anyway; (2) be ignored; (3) be moved to front of
> `org-stored-links'.
Samuel Wales writes:
> On 7/15/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
>> Applied, onto main.
>> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=c0dbcf361
>
> thank you! will this reach bugfix too?
No, because it is a new feature. So, it is for the next release.
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On 7/15/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Applied, onto main.
> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=c0dbcf361
thank you! will this reach bugfix too?
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
> From a05e2cc235b10a7096538da4f6ae6d17c82a6b25 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> Message-ID:
>
> From: Ihor Radchenko
> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 13:14:56 +0300
> Subject: [PATCH] org-store-link: Move already stored link to front by default
Applied, onto main.
On 7/5/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Ihor Radchenko writes:
>
>> What Samuel described is a sequence of M-x org-store-link followed by
>> M-x org-insert-all-links. With such workflow, user can expect that the
>> links are going to be stored in order. If we are instead shuffle the
>> stored links,
Samuel Wales writes:
>>> this buffer contains nothing useful and shortens the above buffer.
>>
>> This is fine. I assume that you can simply hide it away using
>> `display-buffer-alist'.
>
> i have struggled with this in a wider context and gotten nowhere for years.
(add-to-list
Ihor Radchenko writes:
> What Samuel described is a sequence of M-x org-store-link followed by
> M-x org-insert-all-links. With such workflow, user can expect that the
> links are going to be stored in order. If we are instead shuffle the
> stored links, M-x org-insert-all-links may result in
On 7/4/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Samuel Wales writes:
>
>>> -UUU:**--F1 *Org Links*Top L1 (Fundamental)
>>
>> this buffer contains nothing useful and shortens the above buffer.
>
> This is fine. I assume that you can simply hide it away using
> `display-buffer-alist'.
i have
Samuel Wales writes:
>> -UUU:**--F1 *Org Links*Top L1 (Fundamental)
>
> this buffer contains nothing useful and shortens the above buffer.
This is fine. I assume that you can simply hide it away using
`display-buffer-alist'.
> ---
>> http: https:
>>
On 7/3/23, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 04/07/2023 07:28, Samuel Wales wrote:
>> again i normally work with 1 window so i can have enough text.
>> sometimes i have a minuibffer. the end.
>
> 8<
> File Edit Options Buffers Tools Minibuf Help
>
> * title
> :PROPERTIES:
> :ID:
On 04/07/2023 07:28, Samuel Wales wrote:
again i normally work with 1 window so i can have enough text.
sometimes i have a minuibffer. the end.
8<
File Edit Options Buffers Tools Minibuf Help
* title
:PROPERTIES:
:ID: e69336ca-ca50-4535-9bad-63a31e030f31
-UU-:F1
again i normally work with 1 window so i can have enough text.
sometimes i have a minuibffer. the end.
On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote:
> the copletions window dos notc ontain the link dscription or a
> default. there is no tdeafult listed in minibuffer or any tlink
> description. so it is 1
the copletions window dos notc ontain the link dscription or a
default. there is no tdeafult listed in minibuffer or any tlink
description. so it is 1 orig buffer, which is saller and therefoere
lss useful, 1 links buffer, which is useless beause does not show what
i need, 1 copletions buffer
maybe most folk are ok with 3 windows + minibuffer. this is not useful to me.
On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote:
> please feel free to give up if that doesn't get it across. i can't
> continue a bac and forth for unrelated reasons.
>
> On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote:
>> scratch the expanded thing.
please feel free to give up if that doesn't get it across. i can't
continue a bac and forth for unrelated reasons.
On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote:
> scratch the expanded thing.
>
> it ends up showing orig smaller less useful, links uselessly
> boilerplate, completions -- 3 windows! and a terse
scratch the expanded thing.
it ends up showing orig smaller less useful, links uselessly
boilerplate, completions -- 3 windows! and a terse minibuffer i
wouldn't be able to use. -q. i cannot use such a ui.
in contrast, what i expected is orig, and then expanded minibuffer
with, instead of
my reading was:
s> another window would not work for me but using completion as i do
with e.g. refile goto would
m> try again
s> creates another window. ergo not work for me.
in fact, it is worse than that for me. with my fonts, the links
window shows nothing useful on screen. it is
defait cp[;etopm immediately makes 2 windows [orig+links] + expanded
completion imnibuffer. not useful for me.
On 7/3/23, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 02/07/2023 13:03, Samuel Wales wrote:
>> there is not supposed to be any connection between org refile or org
>> goto with the code in org insert
On 02/07/2023 13:03, Samuel Wales wrote:
there is not supposed to be any connection between org refile or org
goto with the code in org insert link.
completion works to select ol paths for org refile and also for org
refile when it is doing goto. i just want the same for links.
I am giving
there is not supposed to be any connection between org refile or org
goto with the code in org insert link.
completion works to select ol paths for org refile and also for org
refile when it is doing goto. i just want the same for links.
On 7/1/23, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 02/07/2023 12:02,
On 02/07/2023 12:02, Samuel Wales wrote:
another window would not work for me but using completion as i do with
e.g. refile goto would.
Samuel, you claimed that completion by description does not work for
`org-insert-link'. I expect that it is fixed in Org-9.6 since I do not
see the issue
another window would not work for me but using completion as i do with
e.g. refile goto would.
On 7/1/23, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 01/07/2023 13:12, Max Nikulin wrote:
>> On 01/07/2023 12:15, Samuel Wales wrote:
>>> emacs -q 9.6.7, vaniila except for whatever -q loads, opens a links
>>> window
On 01/07/2023 13:12, Max Nikulin wrote:
On 01/07/2023 12:15, Samuel Wales wrote:
emacs -q 9.6.7, vaniila except for whatever -q loads, opens a links
window that shows descrtipition and truncated link.
Ignore the links window and try to type first letter of a link
description and TAB.
On 01/07/2023 12:15, Samuel Wales wrote:
emacs -q 9.6.7, vaniila except for whatever -q loads, opens a links
window that shows descrtipition and truncated link.
Ignore the links window and try to type first letter of a link
description and TAB.
i guess i expected completion to show only description with recently
saved at top. if i want, i can also select by ido's flex, c-spc,
arrow keys, etc. ido is already set up for accessibility for me and
is used all the time for other purposes.
then there is the opportunity for fanciness with
yes, 9.6.7 has the bug as i described it, at least with my window and ido setup.
emacs -q 9.6.7, vaniila except for whatever -q loads, opens a links
window that shows descrtipition and truncated link. idk what you do
to select. idk what it does with completion setups.
one problem is this
On 28/06/2023 08:35, Samuel Wales wrote:
2) org-insert-link, with my ido setup, and i am aware other
completion mechanisms exist but find it difficult to
switch, offers as completion candidates a completely
useless list.
The Org version in the Anthony's report is 9.5. Samuel, could
or to [/mere brainstorm alert/] get really fancy, to be able to mark a
place where links are to be inserted [perhas to become a plain list or
so] then collect llinks from all over, then hit store and they all go
to the place you marked. crash-proof.
On 6/29/23, Samuel Wales wrote:
> although i
although i just store and insert now, i'd also welcome the ability to
collect links from various places and have them someplace like a
register where they can be pasted all at once. or even edit the list
in the register, clear it, etc.
On 6/29/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Anthony Carrico
Anthony Carrico writes:
>> Makes sense. It is a +1 for a defcustom.
>> Although I still believe that we should change the current default, even
>> if leaving an option to fall back to previous behaviour.
>
> I don't think there is much reason to complicate the interface with a
> defcustom. The
On 6/29/23 06:28, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
Samuel Wales writes:
if you move the recent one to top of list, that would work for my
mindless store/insert, but it might not work for a user who has
carefully cultivated a set of links that are all to be inserted, or
such. although idk if the
Samuel Wales writes:
> i am not sure i am using store/insert to their full actual or
> potential potential.
>
> if you move the recent one to top of list, that would work for my
> mindless store/insert, but it might not work for a user who has
> carefully cultivated a set of links that are all
i am not sure i am using store/insert to their full actual or
potential potential.
if you move the recent one to top of list, that would work for my
mindless store/insert, but it might not work for a user who has
carefully cultivated a set of links that are all to be inserted, or
such. although
that is, if completing-read is changed, idk if ido will work with it
well or not idk if proposed fix means
- include id and description in orig list for selection
- include id and description is for marginalia
- user selects description and id is returned
- another change
just showing the
On 6/28/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> This behaviour has been introduced in bb61b37ee
>
> bb61b37ee223fd89cf951a5fbf62e35e606a4646
> Author: Bastien
> AuthorDate: Thu Dec 5 17:11:26 2019 +0100
> ol.el: Don't store the same link twice
>
> * lisp/ol.el (org-store-link): Don't store the same link
Anthony Carrico writes:
> Storing the link is also currently somewhat buggy. I almost always link
> to the top of the page (the title), and org creates a table entry which
> looks like this:
>
> Abstract Syntax Graphs for Domain Specific Languages>
I cannot reproduce.
Please provide more
I agree that the current behavior is useless, and I agree that a good
default would be to bring the link to the front of the list.
Storing the link is also currently somewhat buggy. I almost always link
to the top of the page (the title), and org creates a table entry which
looks like this:
Samuel Wales writes:
> in maint and bugfix i frequently do org-store-link on a
> heading that has a properties drawer with an id in it.
>
> ...
> i frequently get "This link has already been
> stored". perhaps this is meant to teach me that i can find
> it in org-insert-link? there are 2
in maint and bugfix i frequently do org-store-link on a
heading that has a properties drawer with an id in it.
my intent is to store it so that i can paste the link later
with org-insert-link.
i frequently get "This link has already been
stored". perhaps this is meant to teach me that i can
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