HowTo: Upgrade org-mode installation from the command-line

2024-05-03 Thread Samuel Wales
never mind. package-initilalize if called in .emacs once will not repeat or warn despite being not needed there normally. at least in 27. -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com

Re: HowTo: Upgrade org-mode installation from the command-line

2024-05-02 Thread Samuel Wales
On Sunday, April 28, 2024, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > > Note: For the upgraded version to be loaded by emacs, you mush place > > `package-initialize` early in your init.el. Failure to do so will > > result in the old system version to be loaded, as can be seen: > > This is only true when running

Re: [FR] Add C-u and C-u C-u prefix arguments to org-paste-subtree (was: Make org-paste-subtree more predictable and useful)

2024-04-21 Thread Samuel Wales
to be clear, i am not suggesting violating outline mode's inability to continue text after children, or violating levels. let me redo. i am ONLY saying i sometimes have the need to yank into the middle of the text of an entry, even if what i am yanking is an entry. it was probalby confusing

Re: [FR] Add C-u and C-u C-u prefix arguments to org-paste-subtree (was: Make org-paste-subtree more predictable and useful)

2024-04-21 Thread Samuel Wales
not sure i am fully following but it seems useful. i thought i would report on a use case thtat might or might not be relevant. it seems so. i often have === * heading 1 text of heading 1 * heading 2 text of heading 2 | and more text === where | just shows where i want to yank. and i want to

Re: [POLL] Should we enable or disable automatic tag alignment by default everywhere

2024-04-17 Thread Samuel Wales
for some reason 9.6.22 says org-auto-align-tags is set to t by default. [btw, i use proportional fonts, so org-tags-column is 0.] -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com

Re: Agenda preserve setting on date change

2024-04-10 Thread Samuel Wales
actually you migt be betst ignoring the notes as they were written many years before even the tses in it. but the code wfm. On Wednesday, April 10, 2024, Samuel Wales wrote: > to me, the concepts of the log mode feature and the showing inactive tses > feature are so close that they are

Re: Agenda preserve setting on date change

2024-04-10 Thread Samuel Wales
to me, the concepts of the log mode feature and the showing inactive tses feature are so close that they are worth merging into the same functionality, parameterized if needed [not needed for me]. in my own case, i basically want all [log mode and inactive tses] off or all on. years ago, i

Re: [WORG] 2680e65 * org-maintenance.org (Copyright assignments): Minor improvements

2024-04-02 Thread Samuel Wales
not following this. but it amused me: >> In rare cases, an inquiry from an >> +Org maintainer gets the process moving again. > > may be missing something, but the last sentence now reads like our >(Org maintainer's) inquiry rarely works. while it can definitely read that way, to me as a

heading structure ramblie

2024-03-19 Thread Samuel Wales
this is open ended. i'd probably be happy with simple solution but want to explore the space. i sometimes need to know when a folded heading has children, and also possibly go to them. maybe it swallowed a heading without my intention. creating new headings with c-c * seems to create children,

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-07 Thread Samuel Wales
cannot follow discussion but is the role and scope of the proposed semantics settled and agreed upon by those who do?

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-04 Thread Samuel Wales
[i did not aim that at any particular person!] On 3/4/24, Samuel Wales wrote: > If language is not correct, then what is said is > not what is meant; if what is said is not what is meant, > then what must be done remains undone; if this remains > undone, morals and art will

Re: naming: Re: Experimental public branch for inline special blocks

2024-03-04 Thread Samuel Wales
If language is not correct, then what is said is not what is meant; if what is said is not what is meant, then what must be done remains undone; if this remains undone, morals and art will deteriorate; if justice goes astray, the people will stand about in helpless confusion. Hence there must be

Re: [FR] Add a way to mark an item in a checklist as failed

2024-02-26 Thread Samuel Wales
my brain for some reason isn't figuring out using headings to simulate checklists. i'm not sure why i keep reaching for checklists or what it is that i find useful about them that i can't yet figure out how to do with headings. sure, they're cleaner and simpler and have bullet styles, but

Re: [proof of concept] inline language blocks

2024-02-21 Thread Samuel Wales
yes as i said emphasis is convenient. On 2/21/24, Juan Manuel Macías wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> for language feature, there are various options here which range from >> e.g. >> >> :fr{some text in French} >> >> being expressed as >&

Re: [proof of concept] inline language blocks

2024-02-21 Thread Samuel Wales
at risk of being like a broken record [over many years]: i still like cl lambda lists e.g. $[thing arg :kw value :kw value] or %(thing ...) for allowing generality to basically all new syntax of most types, extensibility, user-defined major ["thing"] and minor [":kw"] features if desired to

Re: [PATCH v2] org-id: allow using parent's existing id in links to headlines

2024-01-29 Thread Samuel Wales
On 1/29/24, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > You mentioned this feature request in the past. It is not forgotten. thank you. > May you please elaborate what you want to add to the manual and where? had been merely thinking mentioning non-brittleness for newcomers. in handling links. but MAYBE also

Re: [PATCH v2] org-id: allow using parent's existing id in links to headlines

2024-01-28 Thread Samuel Wales
sounds like a lot of contribution. i do not want to impede anything anybody else wants, but want to point out my user experience over years in case useful to anybody. my experiene is that context, search, and file links typically break for me, as i change headers, refile, fix typos, change

Re: bugs in the new release of org

2024-01-24 Thread Samuel Wales
works, please cancel On 1/24/24, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> in emacs25 -Q with recent maint, this code fails to export; it errors >> if there is an org-id link anywhere in the tree. >> >> (org-export-as 'html 'subtree nil 'body-only nil) &g

Re: [fr] org-copy-subtree or so with no header

2024-01-11 Thread Samuel Wales
idk if 2 is a bug vs. overly strict behavior. org-export-with-tasks is technically doing what it is documented to do. but only technically. it is not useful to me for it to fail to export when you explicitly try to export a subtree that is forbidden by the combinatin of o-e-w-t and the kw at

Re: org-(un)fill-buffer

2024-01-10 Thread Samuel Wales
i lost track of all the visual fill stuff vs. emacs native filling vs. org filling vs. filladapt back before visual filling was able to fill with both a fill column and a reasonably smart fill prefix reliably. is that possible now? also, if a new command is to be introduced, presumably it would

Re: [fr] org-copy-subtree or so with no header

2024-01-09 Thread Samuel Wales
hi ihor, more below. On 1/9/24, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> i set c speed command to copy subtree. i'd like to set C to copy >> subtree without top header. idk how to expand subtree temporarily. >> >> i thought it MIGHT be a useful f

Re: [fr] org-copy-subtree or so with no header

2024-01-08 Thread Samuel Wales
[i should not have mentioned expanding subtree temporarily as idk how to code it in general.]

[fr] org-copy-subtree or so with no header

2024-01-08 Thread Samuel Wales
i set c speed command to copy subtree. i'd like to set C to copy subtree without top header. idk how to expand subtree temporarily. i thought it MIGHT be a useful fr.

Re: oeg-add-note and double backslash ?

2023-12-04 Thread Samuel Wales
(info "(org) Paragraphs") On 12/4/23, David Masterson wrote: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> David Masterson writes: >> >>> org-add-note puts a '\\' at the end of the first line. Is it expected >>> the user will put '\\' at the end of each line of a multiline note >>> (except the last line)? >>

replacement for poporg?

2023-11-26 Thread Samuel Wales
poporg allows you to do a c-c ' type of thing, in non-org and get an org bufffer that you then save back to the file you ran it on. ;;; poporg.el --- Pop a comment or string to an empty buffer for text editing you can do lists and tables, and then you save and you get the org formatting that

org-capture does not capture from certain pages

2023-11-26 Thread Samuel Wales
On 11/22/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > It seems neither the org-capture developer nor other disroot users read > this mailing list since you did not response previous time: > > https://list.orgmode.org/cajcao8uxpmlmlb0mahrvjrmnzszvyzxxxvd_rppycmj9xeu...@mail.gmail.com/T/#u ah thank you.  i haev been

org-capture does not capture from certain pages

2023-11-21 Thread Samuel Wales
i find that if i use html gmail[*], i can capture using the org-capture extension in firefox, and i will get page title [which is email subject] and selected text. this is glorious. if i do the same from emails sent to a disroot.org address, it captures only like *

Re: can emphasis emphasize this?

2023-11-12 Thread Samuel Wales
the code. on the basis of the invisibilty thing, i /might/ stick to using spc when emphasis is first char of a = note, if no more responses, but will consider it! On 11/12/23, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > > On 2023-11-13, at 05:29, Samuel Wales wrote: > >> if it is as above, th

can emphasis emphasize this?

2023-11-12 Thread Samuel Wales
tldr can i emphasize =/emphasized/ not emphazised or find a workaround that is easy to type? i like to notate meta-notes with = like this: =/send to mary ka/ a bunch of stuff or =i am skeptiucal this is true he said aliens invadded yesterday or even just notes by themselves with blank space

Re: [BUG] tmp [9.7-pre (release_9.6.10-881-g595a32 @ /home/ps/.emacs.d/org-mode-git/lisp/)]

2023-11-10 Thread Samuel Wales
not a real ans but maybe related history. iirc outline.el made the decision to consider an entry not to include its final newline. org derives from that and did not comprehensively change that. there have been bugs. On 11/10/23, Paul Stansell wrote: > Hello, > > When using Org Mode version

ancestor/descendant in agenda

2023-11-09 Thread Samuel Wales
anybody know the latest, in built-in features or in 3rd party packages, for doing the following? - dim entries that have an ancestor in the same agenda buffer - dim/highlight entries that have a descendant in the same agenda buffer this would work in the text search agenda and the ts

Re: Exporting Hyperlinks ?

2023-11-03 Thread Samuel Wales
[again, the specific implementation or syntax isn't the issue for me here, just hte ability to have global custom id in addition to existing .org local custom id]

Re: Exporting Hyperlinks ?

2023-11-03 Thread Samuel Wales
[in case not obvious, i used org-link-minor-mode to implement the equivalent of global custom id's, including non-org. i'd say, like, ";; mypackage-whatever-parsing-thingie". that is a kludge if we can do it right with an oref-concept-ish org minor mode, but it was hugely useful.]

Re: Exporting Hyperlinks ?

2023-11-03 Thread Samuel Wales
to throw a cat among the pigeons, [[file:contacts.org::#custom_id][My text]] made me think of the need for global custom id in addition to a file-specific one like this. idk what a good ui for it would be given all the options we have considered over the years and recently. just thought to bring

Re: org-search-view across all org-agenda-files ?

2023-10-26 Thread Samuel Wales
"This command searches the agenda files, and in addition the files listed in ‘org-agenda-text-search-extra-files’ unless a restriction lock is active." -- On 10/26/23, David Masterson wrote: > Can org-search-view work across all org-agenda-files? Is there an > alternative? > -- > David

[fr/rfc] switch to buffer that contains given heading without moving point

2023-10-25 Thread Samuel Wales
suppose i am in the middle of a subtree, and it is in a buffer that i am not in. suppose i want to go to the buffer without moving point in target buffer. remembering what buffer contains the heading that i can use completion to get to works with c-x b, but requires remembering where teh heading

Re: Support for buffer-column-aligned tables in Org?

2023-10-25 Thread Samuel Wales
ignore the 2 spaces before width in row 2 On 10/25/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > long shot but try align.el maybe? column -t or similar? > > === > > fwiw a more advanced version: cells shouodb e presumed to be in their > own columns even if missing. > > length 20 H width

Re: Support for buffer-column-aligned tables in Org?

2023-10-25 Thread Samuel Wales
long shot but try align.el maybe? column -t or similar? === fwiw a more advanced version: cells shouodb e presumed to be in their own columns even if missing. length 20 H width 20 depth 20 length 2width 20 depth 20 i mainly want to compact these column tables by reducing

Re: org-capture firefox extension not capture in some cases

2023-10-07 Thread Samuel Wales
of some type. On 10/7/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> in html gmail, i can capture message body text and whatever else. >> >> gmail has an html version and a js version. html is faster and better for >> me. >> >> in disroot.org, if i

org-capture firefox extension not capture in some cases

2023-10-06 Thread Samuel Wales
in html gmail, i can capture message body text and whatever else. gmail has an html version and a js version. html is faster and better for me. in disroot.org, if i try to capture message body text, it seems to capture just the link but does not capture the message body text. -- The Kafka

[bug] org-priority-up on a line with a link puts the cookie in org-link face

2023-10-01 Thread Samuel Wales
i am on recent bugfix but this has been around forever. * [[https://forums.whatever][MCAS and Omalizumab]] when i raise the priority from none to [#A], often or always the cookie is in link face also. for unrelated reasons, i haven't set up an untainted reproducer, so this is a merely

org id link to arbitrary place in an org file

2023-09-19 Thread Samuel Wales
i know we talked about something like this recently, perhaps related to inline tasks, perhaps not. apologies redundancy. i'd like to have an org-id link to a place in a different file. a paragraph or even more arbitrary. is this possible with current org technology? [i think recent discussion

Re: [PATCH] Define new face for the contents of #+RESULTS drawers

2023-09-17 Thread Samuel Wales
perhaps a face for results to indicate that it is generated? On 9/17/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Protesilaos Stavrou writes: > >> Though I understand now that there are more cases involved than I had >> anticipated. I will need to review everything on offer. Let's abort >> this effort for

Re: Possible File Saving Bug with [/]?

2023-09-06 Thread Samuel Wales
lock file? in 27 (info "(emacs) Interlocking") strangely does not mention .# but it could be the concept in question. On 9/6/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Summer Emacs writes: > >> I have a .org file which is just a list of Emacs commands I like to keep >> handy to refer to (navigation,

Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?

2023-08-24 Thread Samuel Wales
another idea, at the cost of 3 dumb messages in a row there are annotation packages. i wonder if integration of those is relevant. On 8/24/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > [p.s. not saying this will satisfy ardent users, just bringing up the > idea in case it is of use.] > > > On

Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?

2023-08-24 Thread Samuel Wales
[p.s. not saying this will satisfy ardent users, just bringing up the idea in case it is of use.] On 8/24/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > iiuc bastien brought up the use of a no export this heading tag as an > alternative to inline tasks. we have much or all of this capability > in f

Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?

2023-08-24 Thread Samuel Wales
iiuc bastien brought up the use of a no export this heading tag as an alternative to inline tasks. we have much or all of this capability in faq. i was thinking the same thing. perhaps many use cases could have inline tasks as siblings below the document heading, and undesired headers could be

w3m rclick menu, regular rclick menu, org capture

2023-08-22 Thread Samuel Wales
long ago i set up emacs to pop up global menu. this allows me to e.g. copy text when i do not use keyboard. (define-key global-map (kbd "") 'alpha-menu) (defun alpha-menu () (interactive) (menu-bar-open) '(call-interactively 'mouse-popup-menubar)) this works in many modes including org

Re: desirability of boxquote-style snippets for helping new users

2023-08-18 Thread Samuel Wales
On 1/15/09, Kevin Rodgers wrote: >> However, most prefix every line. For example, boxquote by default uses >> "|". >> >> While an experienced user can figure out rectangle commands or write a >> command to unpack the quote, new users and users who can't type much >> might skip using the code to

Re: Htmlize support, maintenance, and Org mode (was: [MAINTENANCE] Org orphanage?)

2023-08-13 Thread Samuel Wales
[fyi that is probably not related: i use htmlize.el for functions it has that allow you to copy a region omitting invisible parts. e.g. partly folded magit. i haven't found other code that workd for that and myb rain could not construct any.] On 8/13/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Jonas

Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?

2023-08-13 Thread Samuel Wales
u org-persist.el:This variable must be set before loading org-persist library.") org.el:This variable needs to be set before org.el is loaded. If you org.el:This variable needs to be set before org.el is loaded, and you need to On 8/13/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >>

Re: [PATCH] Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?

2023-08-13 Thread Samuel Wales
i currently want to copy a link location and then paste that link loadtion. i don't recall theis breaking before. it does now. On 8/13/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Bastien Guerry writes: > >> Here is another suggestion: >> >> 1) Remove the option and make adding the dup link on top the

Re: [POLL] Should we accept breaking changes to get rid of Org libraries that perform side effects when loading?

2023-08-12 Thread Samuel Wales
may i post a few notes? i've had tehse previously. 1. i rely on org-mouse for accessibility, as i often cannot use keyboard at all, so there is a personal stake in having it be part of org so that it is fully integrated. of course i have no problem with having to enable it instead of only load

Re: [accessibility] worg obscures text (Re: [PATCH] ob-sqlite: Use a transient in-memory database by default)

2023-08-10 Thread Samuel Wales
standardly in 42 inches, which /might/ allow side by side ediff at 60 finally.] On 8/10/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 05/08/2023 10:22, Samuel Wales wrote: >> [i.e. agree that the manuals and standard toc at top imo do a good job >> for accessibility.] > > Notice that Org manual i

blank line in ido as default when refiling

2023-08-08 Thread Samuel Wales
Subject: is blank option in ido a bugfix refile change? idk if this is etireoly user eror but i ave made no changes to my config that i am aware of so want to confirm with others who mght be able to guess or know there was a change i bugfix.. recent bugfix refile trying to insert link, presents a

Re: [PATCH] Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?

2023-08-06 Thread Samuel Wales
i am confused. org-stored-links is a command? what are the known user needs for storing and pasting links? i am also unclear on why we have a dedicated paste function as opposed to kill ring. probably a good reason. but wfm. i merely wanted to store then yank a link. which in bugfix errors

Re: [accessibility] worg obscures text (Re: [PATCH] ob-sqlite: Use a transient in-memory database by default)

2023-08-04 Thread Samuel Wales
[i.e. agree that the manuals and standard toc at top imo do a good job for accessibility.] On 8/4/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > fwiw i agree with the non-fancy toc concept for accessibility. > > On 8/4/23, Max Nikulin wrote: >> On 05/08/2023 05:57, Rudolf Adamkovič wrote: >>

Re: [accessibility] worg obscures text (Re: [PATCH] ob-sqlite: Use a transient in-memory database by default)

2023-08-04 Thread Samuel Wales
fwiw i agree with the non-fancy toc concept for accessibility. On 8/4/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 05/08/2023 05:57, Rudolf Adamkovič wrote: >> P.S. #2: The Table of Contents (TOC) on the >> WORG is "jumpy" on Safari. In fact, it has >> always been problematic for me, in one way or >> another.

Re: [PATCH] org-id: allow using parent's existing id in links to headlines

2023-07-26 Thread Samuel Wales
i can see the appeal given the granularity of id [headings, files]. yu want to point to smaller things. but what if those smaller things could have ids without drawers? id markers. then changes in surrounding text would not break anything. On 7/26/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Max Nikulin

Re: [Bug] org-insert-link removes on one link from 2 added by org-store-link

2023-07-23 Thread Samuel Wales
"in my case" On 7/23/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 13/07/2023 10:34, Samuel Wales wrote: >> link has already been stored is a bug in my case in that i can't just >> go to a header, grab it [whether rabbed bfere or not] and then paste >> it. i surprise easily

Re: [PATCH] Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?

2023-07-20 Thread Samuel Wales
On 7/15/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Applied, onto main. > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=c0dbcf361 thank you! will this reach bugfix too? -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com

Re: [Bug] org-insert-link removes on one link from 2 added by org-store-link

2023-07-12 Thread Samuel Wales
link has already been stored is a bug in my case in that i can't just go to a header, grab it [whether rabbed bfere or not] and then paste it. i surprise easily when the wrong link gets pasted. [also the id links with no desc and the prefix links do not help me find the link i want to insert if

Re: move siblings

2023-07-10 Thread Samuel Wales
TA-ArrowDown, and so on, by default. > > Cheers, > Dominik > > Samuel Wales writes: > >> * aa >> ** a >> ** b >> ** c >> >> is there a command to move entry at point to below c, or to above a? > -- The Kafka Pande

move siblings

2023-07-10 Thread Samuel Wales
* aa ** a ** b ** c is there a command to move entry at point to below c, or to above a? -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com

Re: How to go to an Org headline programmatically?

2023-07-05 Thread Samuel Wales
i have e.g. (let (org-refile-target-verify-function) (org-refile '(4)) for interactive; ther emight be a place to put the header name or id. On 7/5/23, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to find an Org headline in Elisp. No need to make it visible, > for example - just move the point

Re: [PATCH] Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?

2023-07-05 Thread Samuel Wales
On 7/5/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> What Samuel described is a sequence of M-x org-store-link followed by >> M-x org-insert-all-links. With such workflow, user can expect that the >> links are going to be stored in order. If we are instead shuffle the >> stored links,

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-07-04 Thread Samuel Wales
On 7/4/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >>> -UUU:**--F1 *Org Links*Top L1 (Fundamental) >> >> this buffer contains nothing useful and shortens the above buffer. > > This is fine. I assume that you can simply hide it away using

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-07-03 Thread Samuel Wales
On 7/3/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 04/07/2023 07:28, Samuel Wales wrote: >> again i normally work with 1 window so i can have enough text. >> sometimes i have a minuibffer. the end. > > 8< > File Edit Options Buffers Tools Minibuf Help > > * title >

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-07-03 Thread Samuel Wales
again i normally work with 1 window so i can have enough text. sometimes i have a minuibffer. the end. On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > the copletions window dos notc ontain the link dscription or a > default. there is no tdeafult listed in minibuffer or any tlink > description. s

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-07-03 Thread Samuel Wales
which is useollss befause all it shows is url prefixes, and a minibuffer which shows nothing. On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > maybe most folk are ok with 3 windows + minibuffer. this is not useful to > me. > > On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: >> please feel free to give up i

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-07-03 Thread Samuel Wales
maybe most folk are ok with 3 windows + minibuffer. this is not useful to me. On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > please feel free to give up if that doesn't get it across. i can't > continue a bac and forth for unrelated reasons. > > On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: >> scratch

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-07-03 Thread Samuel Wales
please feel free to give up if that doesn't get it across. i can't continue a bac and forth for unrelated reasons. On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > scratch the expanded thing. > > it ends up showing orig smaller less useful, links uselessly > boilerplate, completions -- 3 windows!

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-07-03 Thread Samuel Wales
: and so on, has useful links as descriotions. only 1 window, if you don't count minibuffer. On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > defait cp[;etopm immediately makes 2 windows [orig+links] + expanded > completion imnibuffer. not useful for me. > > On 7/3/23, Max Nikulin wrote: >> O

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-07-03 Thread Samuel Wales
sure what you mean here minibuffer says link. unfamiliar interface no flex no vertical no default of most recent stored. On 7/3/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > defait cp[;etopm immediately makes 2 windows [orig+links] + expanded > completion imnibuffer. not useful for me. > > On 7/3/2

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-07-03 Thread Samuel Wales
defait cp[;etopm immediately makes 2 windows [orig+links] + expanded completion imnibuffer. not useful for me. On 7/3/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 02/07/2023 13:03, Samuel Wales wrote: >> there is not supposed to be any connection between org refile or org >> goto with the cod

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-07-02 Thread Samuel Wales
:02, Samuel Wales wrote: >> another window would not work for me but using completion as i do with >> e.g. refile goto would. > > Samuel, you claimed that completion by description does not work for > `org-insert-link'. I expect that it is fixed in Org-9.6 since I do not > see

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-07-01 Thread Samuel Wales
another window would not work for me but using completion as i do with e.g. refile goto would. On 7/1/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 01/07/2023 13:12, Max Nikulin wrote: >> On 01/07/2023 12:15, Samuel Wales wrote: >>> emacs -q 9.6.7, vaniila except for whatever -q loads, opens

Re: batch breaks bugfix

2023-07-01 Thread Samuel Wales
i still use maint as a comparison against bugfix and main to make sure they didn't intro regressions. i even tested 8 for a long time so i could go back and check formatting changes etc. if maint gets it right tht might be a clue is all. On 7/1/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Samuel Wales wri

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-06-30 Thread Samuel Wales
with sets of links gathered and pasted in one place. i haven't considred what i would need or what is possible there. except the crash-proof editing and register ideas which are almost orthogonal. On 6/30/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > yes, 9.6.7 has the bug as i described it, at least with my win

Re: org-insert-link completion by description (Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?)

2023-06-30 Thread Samuel Wales
might improvbe on it in principle but i am not in a position to try that atm. idk if it would work with my ido setup. and if it did all technically work idk if the result would be accessible for me wrt window sizes. On 6/30/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 28/06/2023 08:35, Samuel Wales wrote: &

Re: batch breaks bugfix

2023-06-30 Thread Samuel Wales
correction for anybody who bothered to follow all that nonsense: the bizarre bug with not including certain entries only exists in bugfix. i had gotten it to exhibit itself in 2 repos with different names at one point but never mind that.

Re: batch breaks bugfix

2023-06-30 Thread Samuel Wales
On 6/19/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> the bug occurs in recent bugfix, but not recent main, so perhaps we >> could say that it is fixed in main but that the fix has not been >> applied to bugfix? [if only the fix were known.] > > Maybe. >

Re: basic git

2023-06-30 Thread Samuel Wales
On 6/30/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 30/06/2023 13:55, Samuel Wales wrote: >> the merge conflict is >> >> <<<<<<< HEAD >> ;; Version: 9.7-pre >> === >> ;; Version: 9.6.7 >>>>>>>>> 7da765e459384f68d764589c9

Re: basic git

2023-06-30 Thread Samuel Wales
o date. > > $ git pull origin bugfix > From https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/emacs/org-mode >  * branch    bugfix     -> FETCH_HEAD > Already up to date. > > $ git --version > git version 2.39.0 > > On 30-Jun-23 08:56, Samuel Wales wrote: >> how c

Re: basic git

2023-06-30 Thread Samuel Wales
how can a freshly cloned bugfix be any different from upstream? On 6/29/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > i pulled vanilla bugfix and got errors. i deleted the repo, cloned > org, did git checkout bugfix, pulled, and still got errors. > > git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/emacs/

basic git

2023-06-30 Thread Samuel Wales
i pulled vanilla bugfix and got errors. i deleted the repo, cloned org, did git checkout bugfix, pulled, and still got errors. git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/emacs/org-mode.git i am gitophobic. === On branch bugfix Your branch and 'origin/bugfix' have diverged, and have 424 and 3

Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?

2023-06-29 Thread Samuel Wales
or to [/mere brainstorm alert/] get really fancy, to be able to mark a place where links are to be inserted [perhas to become a plain list or so] then collect llinks from all over, then hit store and they all go to the place you marked. crash-proof. On 6/29/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > althoug

Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?

2023-06-29 Thread Samuel Wales
although i just store and insert now, i'd also welcome the ability to collect links from various places and have them someplace like a register where they can be pasted all at once. or even edit the list in the register, clear it, etc. On 6/29/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Anthony Carrico

Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?

2023-06-28 Thread Samuel Wales
idk if the mechanism supports. On 6/28/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > that is, if completing-read is changed, idk if ido will work with it > well or not idk if proposed fix means > > - include id and description in orig list for selection > - include id and description is for marg

Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?

2023-06-28 Thread Samuel Wales
the basename headings [or whatever has an org id] wold wfm but there are probably other considerations. at least, as long as the inserted link mainains the mapping of id with description. On 6/28/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > On 6/28/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: >> This behaviour has been i

Re: what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?

2023-06-28 Thread Samuel Wales
On 6/28/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > This behaviour has been introduced in bb61b37ee > > bb61b37ee223fd89cf951a5fbf62e35e606a4646 > Author: Bastien > AuthorDate: Thu Dec 5 17:11:26 2019 +0100 > ol.el: Don't store the same link twice > > * lisp/ol.el (org-store-link): Don't store the same link

what is the purpose of "This link has already been stored"?

2023-06-27 Thread Samuel Wales
in maint and bugfix i frequently do org-store-link on a heading that has a properties drawer with an id in it. my intent is to store it so that i can paste the link later with org-insert-link. i frequently get "This link has already been stored". perhaps this is meant to teach me that i can

id links in non-org buffers

2023-06-22 Thread Samuel Wales
will any package highlight or follow org id in non-org?

Re: ts-down sorts between deadline-down and scheduled-down

2023-06-19 Thread Samuel Wales
actually: ts-down deadline-down scheduled-down results in output: scheduled-down deadlie-down ts-down On 6/19/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > if i put ts-down before deadline-down and scheduled-down, it shows up > after deadline and before scheduled. > > ((agenda habit-down time-up

ts-down sorts between deadline-down and scheduled-down

2023-06-19 Thread Samuel Wales
if i put ts-down before deadline-down and scheduled-down, it shows up after deadline and before scheduled. ((agenda habit-down time-up tsia-down ts-down deadline-down scheduled-down category-up user-defined-up) (todo category-up user-defined-up) (tags category-up user-defined-up) (search

Re: batch breaks bugfix

2023-06-19 Thread Samuel Wales
. this is more like normal use. but it would be good to know what the problem is with --batch. On 6/19/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> the bug occurs in recent bugfix, but not recent main, so perhaps we >> could say that it is fixed in main but that the fix has n

Re: batch breaks bugfix

2023-06-18 Thread Samuel Wales
wondering if it is possible to enable display stuff without actually dispaying anything. On 6/18/23, Samuel Wales wrote: > the bug occurs in recent bugfix, but not recent main, so perhaps we > could say that it is fixed in main but that the fix has not been > applied to bugfix? [if onl

Re: batch breaks bugfix

2023-06-18 Thread Samuel Wales
: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> can you think of any differences between bugfix and main >> that could result in >> >> 1) bugfix not producing certain agenda entries from the org >>outline (THE BUG) >> 2) with no obvious differences between the entri

batch breaks bugfix

2023-06-17 Thread Samuel Wales
can you think of any differences between bugfix and main that could result in 1) bugfix not producing certain agenda entries from the org outline (THE BUG) 2) with no obvious differences between the entries that show and the entries that do not 3) FROM A BATCH CALL. removing --batch from

alternative to org-link-minor-mode

2023-06-14 Thread Samuel Wales
On 6/14/23, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > Samuel Wales writes: > >> just a note that org-link-minor-mode produces this error upon e.g. >> find-file on a bash file, presumably due to org links in it: File mode >> specification error: (error org-link is not a valid folding spec)

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