transient suppression

2000-01-11 Thread Ken Javor
When choosing transient suppression for power line input to equipment, what are the choices (MOVs, silicon TVS, glass discharge tubes, others) and what are the trade-offs? Thank you. - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to

RE: Chamber and OATS Coorelation

2000-01-11 Thread Barry Ma
Mirko, I happen to have a copy of CISPR 16-1 at hand. Clause 16.6 Open area site validation procedure reads: ... The deviation between a measured NSA value and the theoretical value shall not be used as a correction for a measured EUT field strength. This procedure shall be used only for

RE: Tiger Tail for 27 MHz?

2000-01-11 Thread Mike Hopkins
That will work, but the electrical length of the tail will change due to the inductance of the coil you're winding... This method has been used to produce shorter antenna elements in the HF (3-30MHz) region with some success; however, shorter antenna elements generally also mean loss rather

RE: Radiation levels.

2000-01-11 Thread Mike Hopkins
Seems to me it can be almost anything -- AM broadcast stations in the US range from a few hundred watts to 10kW could be much higher (and probably is) in some contries like Mexico.. I've been out of this business for a while, but I remember FM and TV broadcast radiation being listed as

Re[2]: electronics used in refueling

2000-01-11 Thread Jim Bacher
Forwarding for Mike. Jim Reply Separator Subject:Re: electronics used in refueling Author: miksher...@aol.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 01/11/00 3:42 PM In a message dated 1/10/2000 11:06:09 AM Central Standard Time,

Re: What is Fire-wire?

2000-01-11 Thread Jerry Roberton
try www.jargonbuster.com Best Regards, Jerry Roberton NET Europe Ltd Jim Bacher wrote: forwarding for DEWASTHALEE... Jim Reply Separator Subject:RE: What is Fire-wire? Author: PRDEWASTHALEE priyawrat.dewastha...@wipro.com Date:

RE: Pollution degree help

2000-01-11 Thread Ned Devine
Hi, Yes, you need three or more layers of pre-preg in between the SELV and MAINS traces. Ned Devine Entela, Inc. Program Manager III Phone 616 248 9671 Fax 616 574 9752 e-mail ndev...@entela.com -Original Message- From: Andrews, Kurt [mailto:kandr...@tracewell.com] Sent: Tuesday,

RE: UL6500

2000-01-11 Thread Aschenberg, Mat
Paul, UL6500 2nd edition requires that decorative parts meet any of the following flame ratings: HB, V-2, V-1, V-0, HBF, HF-2, HF-1, HF-0, VTM-2, VTM-1, VTM-0 (Reference Table 13) I hope this is helpful. Mat Aschenberg -Original Message- From: Paul Smith [mailto:phsm...@excite.co.uk]

Re: Radiation levels

2000-01-11 Thread Barry Ma
David, You may try http://n5xu.ae.utexas.edu/rfsafety/;. Barry Ma Anritsu Company Morgan Hill, CA - Original Message - From: David Monreal To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 5:14 AM Subject: Radiation levels. Hi all! Could anyone tell

RE: Pollution degree help

2000-01-11 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Ned, You wrote: For example, you can have SELV over Mains if you have three or more layers of pre-preg. You also would not have to do any type or routine testing. Does this mean 3 layers in between the SELV and the Mains layers i.e. Mains-layer of pre-preg-layer of

Used spectrum analyzer

2000-01-11 Thread Ed Nakauchi
Hello All, My company is selling a used HP8568B spectrum analyzer that we no longer need. It is in excellent condition and we are asking $11K or will consider the best offer. If interested, reply directly to Ed Nakauchi at e...@garwoodtestlabs.com Ed Nakauchi Director EMI/EMC Consultant

RE: Chamber and OATS Coorelation

2000-01-11 Thread Matejic, Mirko
Richard, You could improve correlation by adjusting chamber antenna factors for a correlation differences which you can get from NSA measurements one at OATS the other in the chamber with a fixed antenna height. You could also determine correlation differences by comparing measured field

Re: Radiation levels.

2000-01-11 Thread Robert Macy
David, Measured 3 to 7 V/m around and inside a building that is within 200-300 feet of the 10KW AM station's three towers. The towers are phased and the amplitude you measure will change based upon time of day as the station changes that phasing. Amplitude is greatly affected by materials,

Re: Radiation levels.

2000-01-11 Thread Patrick Lawler
The FCC has records of field strength for broadcast stations (at least AM radio stations) in terms of V/m @ 1km. They're on record at their web site. Typical values for the AM radio stations near me range from 200-1000mV/m @ 1km. Due to power levels antenna style, the results may vary widely.

Chamber and OATS Coorelation

2000-01-11 Thread WOODS
We have a compact 3 meter semi-anchoic chamber which is not suitable for official final emissions testing due to its compact size. Nevertheless, we have found the radiated emission results in the chamber are within +/- 6 dB of what we find on the OATS. I would like to reduce that difference to

RE: electronics used in refueling

2000-01-11 Thread Brian Harlowe
In a previous life in the UK I was involved in this sort of thing associated with oil rigs. As I remember the hazards were broken down into 3 groups 1) Equipment continually in contact with the explosive gas 2) Equipment that would come into contact if there was a leak 3) Equipment that was some

Re:Santa Clara Valley EMC Meeting Notice 11Jan2000

2000-01-11 Thread Hans Mellberg
The meeting is open to everyone and is free of charge. Some food and drinks are offered for purchase prior to the meeting. visit our website for driving directions. www.scvemc.org = Best Regards Hans Mellberg EMC Consultant __ Do You

RE: Radiation levels.

2000-01-11 Thread Colgan, Chris
According to the BBC transmitter information site http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/reception/tvpb/index.shtml the maximum ERP for 1) A TV transmitter is 1000kW (Crystal Palace and others) 2) An FM transmitter is 250kW (Wenvoe and others) 3) A MW/LW transmitter is 500kW (Droitwich) Transmitters

UL6500

2000-01-11 Thread Paul Smith
I don't hve a copy of this standard but hopefully somebody out there will and might be able to help. Can I presume that decorative parts of equipment enclosures tested to UL6500 need to meet UL94 HB as a minimum or is there anything less stringent? I only ask as I'm sure somebody has told me in

RE: Pollution degree help

2000-01-11 Thread Ned Devine
Hi, Be careful. Through insulation does not necessary mean 0.4 mm. It can be thin sheet material. See UL 1950, Table 6A and IEC 60950, 3rd edition, Table 2M for requirements for printed wiring boards. For example, you can have SELV over Mains if you have three or more layers of per-preg.

Re: Y3K

2000-01-11 Thread Ralph Cameron
Roger, Most of this problem occurs from the Latin M= 1000 and the Greek K=1000 What came later just confused the issue- is this an example of a decision by committee(s) ? Ralph Cameron - Original Message - From: roger.vi...@wwgsolutions.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Sent:

Re: Radiation levels.

2000-01-11 Thread Ralph Cameron
David: The field strength at any given point remote from the antenna system can be quite variable and depends on power output, antenna pattern, height of antenna above ground (TV) and whether you're in the near or far field. I've seen levels of 200V/m 200 ft from a 50Kw broadcast array

RE: Pollution degree help

2000-01-11 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Ned and emc-pstc'ers, After reading the clauses you mentioned it appears that the UL Engineer was a little off base. You are correct that internal PCB layers can be treated as distance through insulation. In fact both standards specifically state that internal PCB layers are done this way (you

Re: Radiation levels.

2000-01-11 Thread Ken Javor
The only answer I know is that AM broadcast stations are limited to 50 kW ERP, while FM broadcasts are limited to 100 kW ERP. I don't know the limit for broadcast TV, or whether it varies between VHF and UHF stations. Regardless, you must specify the distance from the transmitting antenna(s) in

Tiger Tail for 27 MHz?

2000-01-11 Thread Lacey,Scott
Fellow Listmembers, I have a question regarding tiger tails used to improve transmission characterisics of a hand-held transmitter (HHT). The HHT is basically a dipole, with the chassis as the bottom element. The tiger tail is a quarter-wave length of wire that connects to the shell of the

RE: European Directives

2000-01-11 Thread WOODS
The directives can be found at http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3b/newapproa/eurstd/harmstds/reflis t.html http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3b/newapproa/eurstd/harmstds/refli st.html including any amendments. Richard Woods -- From: peterh...@aol.com

Re:RE: What is Fire-wire?

2000-01-11 Thread Jim Bacher
forwarding for DEWASTHALEE... Jim Reply Separator Subject:RE: What is Fire-wire? Author: PRDEWASTHALEE priyawrat.dewastha...@wipro.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 01/11/00 10:00 AM Hi, You might like to take a look at this:

Radiation levels.

2000-01-11 Thread David Monreal
Hi all! Could anyone tell me the radiation levels (V/m) generated by broadcast antennae? (Radio and TV). I also need the radiation levels for any other emmitig devices, machinery, GSM antennae, power cables, etc. The more information the better. Thanks a lot :-) David - The V/m guy

Re: European Directives

2000-01-11 Thread Nick Williams
The full list of EU legislation in force can be found at: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/en/lif/index.html Be warned - this is everything the EU currently has in force, including agricultural, social and other matters. CE marking and product safety in general only forms a (very) small part of

Luminaire Ballast

2000-01-11 Thread Paul Smith
On a custom luminaire to a ballast we need to use high voltage cables as the strike voltage is in the region of 4kV albeit for a momentary time whilst the lamp strikes. IF we used cable rated (individual conductors) for 4kV, what should we use for a shroud around all the conductors? I've

RE: Y3K

2000-01-11 Thread roger . viles
Thanks to all who made their comments following my complaint about the misuse of K for 1000. Maybe a final word about this problem! The IEC (even more pedantic!) are attempting to fix this by creating a new set of units for binary multiples (Amendment 2 to IEC International Standard IEC

Radiation levels.

2000-01-11 Thread David Monreal
Hi all! Could anyone tell me the radiation levels (V/m) generated by broadcast antennae? (Radio and TV). I also need the radiation levels for any other emmitig devices, machinery, GSM antennae, etc. The more information the better. Thanks a lot :-) David - The V/m guy attachment: David

RE: Pollution degree help

2000-01-11 Thread Peter Merguerian
Hello All, For UL (but may be interpreted differently by other agencies), a PWB investigated to the PWB Component standard is treated as a Component and there are no additional requirements for internal (ie interlayer) creepages other than meeting the min. 0.4 mm distance through insulation

Re: What is Fire-wire?

2000-01-11 Thread Matthew Meehan
Hi Robert, Try PC World Online for a good primer. http://www1.pcworld.com/heres_how/article/0,1400,14371,00.html Regards Matt Heard of this high speed interface? Anybody know about it? Need information, please. Something about IEEE1394 Is the cable defined *very* well? like

European Directives

2000-01-11 Thread Peterhays
Hello and happy New Year to all, Could someone let me know where I can obtain the latest revision of various European directives please? Are they available on www? Thank you Peter - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to

Re: What is Fire-wire?

2000-01-11 Thread Dan Kwok
Robert Macy wrote: Heard of this high speed interface? Anybody know about it? Need information, please. Hello Rob, FireWire is based on the IEEE 1394 protocol, a high speed (up to 400 Mbps) serial digital interface intended for interconnecting real time digital video and high speed

What is Fire-wire?

2000-01-11 Thread Robert Macy
Heard of this high speed interface? Anybody know about it? Need information, please. Something about IEEE1394 Is the cable defined *very* well? like CAT-5? - Robert - - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send