RE: Conducted Line Emissions

2002-11-07 Thread HALL,KEN (HP-Roseville,ex1)
Hello, Interesting, looks like you meet the old FCC requireemnts. I think the new FCC requirements are to the CISPR A and B limits. Regards, Ken Hall -Original Message- From: Dan Pierce [mailto:dpie...@openglobe.net] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:05 PM To:

RE: Conducted Line Emissions

2002-11-07 Thread Pettit, Ghery
Dan, From the data provided one cannot make a pass/fail decision. The (old) FCC limits for power line conducted emissions are based on a quasi-peak detector. Going over the limit with a peak detector does not necessarily mean that the product fails as a peak detector quite often will read

Re: Conducted Line Emissions

2002-11-07 Thread Ken Javor
Neither of these is the right detector if you interpret them strictly. A quasi-peak detector (what you are supposed to use to measure against the limit) has a response in between that of a true peak detector and an average detector. But a lot of times when they say peak they mean quasi-peak.

Re: Hot chassis ...

2002-11-07 Thread Cortland Richmond
Doug, If I understand your description properly, the AC power cords run from the power supplies and thence out of the box. This would negate shielding the box (whose construction, as you describe it, is not encouraging, either) might offer. It looks to me that as there would be a difference in

RE: EU DoC

2002-11-07 Thread Nick Williams
...but for an alternative view, Regulation 40 (2) of the UK's The Electromagnetic Compatibility Regulations 1992 (SI 1992:2372) says: An EC declaration of conformity to which this regulation applies shall- (a) be in English; (b) give the name and address- (i) of the responsible person;

Temporary position available, EMC design engineer

2002-11-07 Thread Ken Javor
Forum, I have been contacted by a headhunter who wants an EMC designer to work a power supply design (28 Vdc input, so likely mil or aerospace application) in Clearwater, FL. The job is for several months, full time. I can't leave my home base for that kind of time. Any one out there

Re: Fixes

2002-11-07 Thread Ken Javor
Hey, Doug Smith, this one's for you... -- From: lisa_cef...@mksinst.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Fixes Date: Thu, Nov 7, 2002, 1:34 PM Hi all, Does anyone know of a source, (web site, book, papers, etc.) which contains suggestions on how to fix various EMI

Re: common mode immunity coupling units

2002-11-07 Thread Ken Javor
I must be missing something. The controlled impedance concept would work for me if the cable-under-test (CUT) were a single-wire-above-ground (swag) transmission line terminated at either end in its characteristic impedance. That is never the case. If a cable is shielded, then it is terminated

Conducted Line Emissions

2002-11-07 Thread Dan Pierce
Greetings: I am looking for proof that I can use the averaged value for emissions rather than the peak value. Attached is a chart that I was given by an Asia test site that told me I failed. According to my past experience, I believe that the average power is what I should be concerned about.

Re: Fixes

2002-11-07 Thread Ron Pickard
Hi Lisa, There are several excellent books that come to mind: 1. Printed Circuit Board Design Techniques for EMC Compliance, Mark Montrose, IEEE Press, ISBN-07803-5376-5 2. EMC and the Printed Circuit Board - Design, Theory and Layout Made Simple, Mark Montrose, IEEE Press, ISBN

EU DoC - ATEX Examples

2002-11-07 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that John Allen john.al...@era.co.uk wrote (in BFE68AB0084CD311B4FB00508B014C8703CF9CD2@MERCURY) about 'EU DoC - ATEX Examples' on Thu, 7 Nov 2002: The EC declaration of conformity and the application of the CE marking may be effected either by the manufacturer or his

Hot chassis ...

2002-11-07 Thread Doug McKean
Anyone have any fresh ideas on how to improve the overall chassis ground integrity of a hot box? Let me explain - standard off the shelf box, about 4U high, with 2 redundant AC power supplies. Bottom and sides are one piece folded up, top cover is screwed down. Primary ground comes through

Fixes

2002-11-07 Thread Lisa_Cefalo
Hi all, Does anyone know of a source, (web site, book, papers, etc.) which contains suggestions on how to fix various EMI problems? Thank you in advance. Regards, Lisa --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee

RE: EU DoC - ATEX Examples

2002-11-07 Thread John Allen
Hi Folks Whilst investigating something else today, I came upon the Commission Guidance Notes for the implementation of the ATEX Directive : http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/atex/guide/guide_en.pdf On Page 112 in reply to Question 13 (about something else), Case 1, 2nd paragraph, states

RE: EU banned substances

2002-11-07 Thread Neil Helsby
Sorry, I should have made it clearer that the two lines needed to be made into one URL. Access to both ROHS and WEEE can be obtained by using the alternative URL and the process as follows: www.EurActiv.com Enter ROHS in the search box. This will bring up a list indicating both ROHS and

RE: Automotive EMC for household/commercial products

2002-11-07 Thread Alex McNeil
Hi Nick, I originally posted this question under the Title 95/54/EC Automotive Directive Conflict. It is archived under October 2002. Kind Regards Alex McNeil Principal Engineer Tel: +44 (0)131 479 8375 Fax: +44 (0)131 479 8321 email: alex.mcn...@ingenicofortronic.com -Original

RE: STOP-ocoss

2002-11-07 Thread Chris Chileshe
Could this be the Statutory Term of presumption of conformity of superseded standard? Of course I jest! I tried to take the easy way out by splitting up the word and effectively changing the short form to a phrase Doc of POCOSS but then realised that was all wrong and intuitively means

Automotive EMC for household/commercial products

2002-11-07 Thread Nick Williams
A short while ago someone posted some interesting questions about the Automotive EMC directive which alluded to a difference of opinion between the UK and French interpretations of the directives as regards household/commercial products being used temporarily in a vehicle. This has

RE: STOP-ocoss

2002-11-07 Thread Gordon,Ian
All I agree with John. This business is full of acronyms and numbers. Any means of clearing the fog is beneficial to the group as a whole. It would be useful if we had a list of accepted acronyms and their meanings: such as MRU, BTW, AFAIK, NB, ESD, CB, CBO, DOC, DOCOPOCOSS, EFT, AIUI and many

RE: common mode immunity coupling units

2002-11-07 Thread Gordon,Ian
All The following website gives a dissection of uncertainties in immunity testing including EN61000-4-6 and there will be a meeting at NPL later this month. http://www.elmac.co.uk/ Thanks Ian Gordon -Original Message- From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com] Sent: 07

EU banned substances

2002-11-07 Thread Neil Helsby
For those interested in the complete details of banned substances, Article 4 of the ROHS Directive states:- Member states shall ensure that, from 1 July 2006, new electrical and electronic equipment put on the market does not contain lead, mercury, cadmium, hexavalent chromium, polybrominated

Re: common mode immunity coupling units

2002-11-07 Thread Ken Javor
I have to agree with Mr. Woodgate's comment, as far as numbers go - 150 Ohms means the wire is very close to a well-defined ground plane if the number represents a transmission line characteristic impedance. However, the IEC 1000-4-6 test set up does not represent the real world, because it