Re: Effective length of half wave dipole

2003-10-29 Thread Ken Javor
I've seen that design in a D-dot sensor. The elements were a couple of spheres. The output impedance of such an antenna is quite high, it really is an electric field probe, and works at frequencies where the elements are electrically short. These types of devices really sense the time

RE: CB certification - IEC60950

2003-10-29 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Amund - Since A11 addressed issues related to LED optical power evaluations, it's added requirements would not necessarily apply to a power supply. Note that A4 has the same date of suprecession of previous standards as A11. You could easily make the case that A4 is good enough. My

RE: European conductor ampacity table

2003-10-29 Thread Ronald R. Wellman
Hello Sam, I believe that IEC 60335-1 has the information you are looking for. Best regards, Ron Wellman At 02:14 PM 10/29/2003 -0700, POWELL, DOUG wrote: Sam, IEC 60950 (EN 60950) has: Table 3D - Range of conductor sizes to be accepted by terminals Table 3E - Sizes of terminals for mains

RE: Repair of HP8562A SA - update

2003-10-29 Thread John Cronin
Just to be clear on this one, Agilent do not support the instrument any longer, however, we must remember it is quite old at this stage. They have told me that they will not guarantee to repair as some of the spares could be obsolete it but would look at it for me. John Cronin _

RE: IEC60950 - Language of user handbook

2003-10-29 Thread Doug Massey
Thanks, Gary, for catching my goof – Note 2 should say “German language” not “English language”. Sorry folks! Doug Massey Product Safety Engineer Advanced Compliance Solutions Ph. (770) 831-8048 FAX (770) 831-8598 Visit our web home at http://www.acstestlab.com

RE: European conductor ampacity table

2003-10-29 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Sam, IEC 60950 (EN 60950) has: Table 3D - Range of conductor sizes to be accepted by terminals Table 3E - Sizes of terminals for mains supply conductors and protective earthing conductors -doug Douglas E. Powell Corporate Compliance Dept. Advanced Energy Industries, Inc. Fort Collins, CO

RE: Class 1 AC/DC adapter

2003-10-29 Thread Brian O'Connell
Mr Lai You make a very important point about not depending on a device for ground continuity that is designed only for EMI suppression. But if the power supply is failing hi-pot, the unit has a serious spacing and/or materials issue. Many power supply mfrs perform Type Tests at higher test

RE: Effective length of half wave dipole

2003-10-29 Thread Mike Hopkins
I think the length of a 1/2 wave dipole in feet is basically 468/f(MHz) where the ratio of the length to diameter is very large (wire antennas in the HF region, for example). Making the diameter of the elements larger does two things: it reduces the overall length of the antenna and increases the

CB certification - IEC60950

2003-10-29 Thread am...@westin-emission.no
Hi all, We are looking for an adapter 240AC/24DC 60W. During our search we have been given a CB look-a-like sheet from a manufacturer. I mean, it is not the usual CB certificate sheet I used to see. It refers to IEC60950:1991 with A1 , A2, A3 and A4. Question: Shouldn't A11 also be included ?

Re: IEC60950 - Language of user handbook

2003-10-29 Thread am...@westin-emission.no
Thanks to you all who responded. Since we have EU and North America as main targets, we will start up with English, German, French and Spanish. Best regards Amund Westin Oslo / NORWAY -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org

Re: European conductor ampacity table

2003-10-29 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Sam Davis sda...@ptitest.com wrote (in ncbbjfmlmlpnhhmlgfdfcemdfcab.sda...@ptitest.com) about 'European conductor ampacity table' on Wed, 29 Oct 2003: Can anyone point me to a source of the European ratings for conductor size vs ampere rating? I've got tons of hits for

Re: Effective length of half wave dipole

2003-10-29 Thread robert Macy
From Dave Cuthbert's comments to me regarding a 1/4 wavelength dipole; he said that the current moves down the rod as the rod becomes thicker, which implies that the current distribution absolutely determines the effective length. Was that effective length or tuned length? hmm However, the

RE: Class 1 AC/DC adapter

2003-10-29 Thread ChengWee Lai
Hello Raymond, First I don't think the EMC earthing plate should be treat as reliable earthing. (require good ground continuity as welll as mechanical secure) What I will do are 1. use double insulating Bridging cap, like Y1 cap (for example Panasonic NS-A) 2. find a way to prevent the break

Re: Effective length of half wave dipole

2003-10-29 Thread hansm
And also the circumference of the element. And, Yes, wave velocity is certainly different in mediums other than vaccum affected by permeability and permitivity. Engineering Manager BACL 230 Commercial Street Sunnyvale CA 94085 USA 408-732-9162 x38 408-732-9164 fax - Original Message -

RE: Repair of HP8562A Spectrum Analyzer

2003-10-29 Thread Jon Francis
HP did drop support for much EMC related equipment. Harmonics and Flicker test equipment for certain. Jon Francis From: Reginald Henry [mailto:rhe...@vicon-cctv.com] Sent: 29 October, 2003 3:20 PM To: 'John Cronin'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Repair of HP8562A Spectrum Analyzer

Re: Safety of Schuko CEE7 plug (earthed plug) in Europe?

2003-10-29 Thread aiken
Ilan, Note that the socket outlets in most of Europe and unpolarized, meaning they are connected in random. UK and Switzerland are the exceptions. Therefore there is no reason for the CEE 7, SS VII plug to identify polarity. Somewhere in the standards you will find a clause that requires two

RE: Safety of Schuko CEE7 plug (earthed plug) in Europe?

2003-10-29 Thread Ilan Cohen
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Take for example a power supply with a transformer and a few components in the path (Inlet, filters...) protected by a fuse of about 3A. Building installation is typically 10A minimum. You may end with faults from Line to Ground that will stress

RE: Safety of Schuko CEE7 plug (earthed plug) in Europe?

2003-10-29 Thread John Allen
Ilan Actually I have to disagree with you that it is not handled correctly by 60950, 60335 etc. If you examine the tabulated requirements for fusing in the standard (and in some others) you will see under which combinations of circumstances you need 1 fuse or two fuses (on a single-phase

Repair of HP8562A Spectrum Analyzer

2003-10-29 Thread Joshua Wiseman
John, I have used Avalon for my HP repairs. Agilent may not have the parts, especially if your Analyzer falls under EMC equipment. Josh From: John Cronin [mailto:croni...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:41 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: ***SPAM*** 8.8 Repair of

RE: Repair of HP8562A Spectrum Analyzer

2003-10-29 Thread Richard Schumacher
John: You might also contact Agilent concerning support of this instrument, at http://www.agilent.com. They were once the test and measurement division of HP. I never worked for them so I have no further details or insider knowledge. regards, Richard Schumacher Hewlett Packard Company

Re: 47 CFR Part 90

2003-10-29 Thread Tom Cokenias
Hi David, Yesterday I was able to download entire rule parts at this url: http://www.gpo.gov/ecfr/ The rules are updated daily on this site so you have the most current versions. Today the site seems to have connection problems, but as I remember the process you - pick Title 47 from the pull

RE: Safety of Schuko CEE7 plug (earthed plug) in Europe?

2003-10-29 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
Ilan, EN60950 requires both overload and earth fault protection. Pluggable products may rely upon the building protection (mains fuses, breakers) to provide line to earth fault protection. If so, a single internal fuse or breaker can protect against overload. Such construction is allowed and is

RE: Repair of HP8562A Spectrum Analyzer

2003-10-29 Thread Reginald Henry
John, I think that is an easy one ! Agilent 800-452-4844 Agilent has taken on that area for ALL HP test equipment. http://www.agilent.com I believe Reg From: John Cronin [mailto:croni...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:41 AM To:

Repair of HP8562A Spectrum Analyzer

2003-10-29 Thread John Cronin
Hi I have a HP 8562A 22 GHz spectrum analyzer with a blown input stage. HP no longer support this instrument. Can anyone advise of a suitable source of third party repair? Many Thanks John Cronin _ Get your hands on designer bargains for less - click here.

Safety of Schuko CEE7 plug (earthed plug) in Europe?

2003-10-29 Thread Ilan Cohen
Dear Group I have been looking into the usage of the Continental European Plug also known as Schuko CEE7 plug (earthed plug). It can be inserted into the Wall socket without a way to ensure that line is connected to line and Neutral to Neutral. http://www.interpower.com/scripts/wsisa

Re: Effective length of half wave dipole

2003-10-29 Thread Luke Turnbull
I assume you are referring to the fact that the length of a practical antenna is about 95% of the theoretical length. One significant influence is the end capacitance of a thick dipole, effectively caused by the electric field fringing from the sides of the element round to the end. Hope this

Effective length of half wave dipole

2003-10-29 Thread kcc...@hkpc.org
Dear all I got confused with the effective length of a half wave dipole. 1) It is due to non-constant current distribution, or 2) It is due to the wave velocity in materials different from that in vacuum. What do you think which one is correct? Regards KC Chan