[PSES] DoC - reference to ROHS directive

2024-04-21 Thread Amund Westin
and, 2011/65/EU is still in charge, and is the directive to be listed in the DoC. Comments? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the l

[PSES] IEC 61000-6-5 vs. IEC 61000-6-2

2024-04-17 Thread Amund Westin
familiar with IEC EN 61000-6-2 but have never tested or looked into IEC EN 61000-6-5. If anyone who have knowledge about both standards and could shorty tell the main differences between these two? Best regards Amund

[PSES] SV: [PSES] 863MHz - Short Range Devices

2024-04-02 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks Larry ! Great! But can we operate at the band edge 863.00MHz, so the spectrum will occupy 862.9 - 863.1MHz ? Is it allowed spread the spectrum into two frequency bands? BR Amund Fra: Larry K. Stillings Sendt: 2. april 2024 19:24 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re

[PSES] 863MHz - Short Range Devices

2024-04-02 Thread Amund Westin
but still have some part of the spectrum coming into the 862-863MHz band? Question 2: Transmit in the edge between to bands (862-863MHz and 863-865MHz), which means center frequency 863.00MHz, is anyway, not allowed? Best regar

[PSES] EN 61000-6-2 Surge

2024-03-14 Thread Amund Westin
I have been told that surge test must be conducted to a DC-port. Is that correct if the DC-port is supplied with 12VDC from a standby-batteri, which is installed close by the product and with maximum 1 meter cable? BR Amund

Re: [PSES] CE DoC - 3.part device inclosed with our product

2024-03-05 Thread Amund Westin
when used in operation with each other. Address the risk I guess in a user manual? I assume the our DoC should include the adapter, because we put the combination of two products on the market. We have to declare that CE + CE = CE in this case. On 2024-03-05 10:43, Amund Westin

[PSES] CE DoC - 3.part device inclosed with our product

2024-03-05 Thread Amund Westin
We buy in CE-marked ACDC adapters from third-party manufacturers. We then include adapters together with our product in a common packaging. Do we have to provide original DoC for adapters along with our own DoC in the package or do we not need to do any action for these adapters? I cannot find

[PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 300 220 - TX duty cycle for SDR

2024-02-21 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks Charlie Would you accept "Listen-before-talk" as "polite spectrum access"? Best regards Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Charlie Blackham Sendt: 20. februar 2024 10:38 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [PSES] EN 300 220 - TX duty

[PSES] EN 300 220 - TX duty cycle for SDR

2024-02-20 Thread Amund Westin
on the channels inside the different Operational Frequency Band Question: Is it possible to increase TX transmission above the allowed duty cycle limit, if the transmission includes LBT (Listen-Before-Talk)? Or are other techniques required? Best regards Amund

[PSES] Test lab in Germany - LVD testing

2024-01-23 Thread Amund Westin
On behalf of a local company, I’m looking for a German test lab within LVD testing (EN 62368-1). I have a listing of all CB scheme labs in Germany but would appreciate suggestions of other labs. Thanks! Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Mvh Amund Westin

[PSES] Lithium battery label / marking

2023-12-05 Thread Amund Westin
Product (Multimedia Equipment) that contains Lithium battery We know there are various required labels on packaging for ground/air transportation. But the product itself, does it need a battery label / marking on the outside enclosure? Can’t remember seeing such a label. BR Amund

[PSES] SV: [PSES] EU Cyber Resilience Act

2023-11-28 Thread Amund Westin
must pass other devices before it's on the Internet . ? BR Amund Fra: Amund Westin Sendt: 28. november 2023 13:43 Til: 'Charlie Blackham' ; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Emne: SV: [PSES] EU Cyber Resilience Act Great Information, Charlie. One thing . Let's say a temperat

[PSES] SV: [PSES] EU Cyber Resilience Act

2023-11-28 Thread Amund Westin
to the Internet, but to a local in-house gateway, which the gateway itself is connected to Internet by wire or radio. Will that "in house temp sensor" be classified as "connected to Internet", so the Cyber Resilience Act will apply even for such sensors? BR Amund F

[PSES] EU Cyber Resilience Act

2023-11-27 Thread Amund Westin
I have heard rumors about August 01, 2025, from that date the EU Cyber Resilience Act is mandatory and part of the CE marking (for relevant RED/radio products) Is it correct rumors? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE

[PSES] EN 55011:2016 + A2:2021

2023-11-06 Thread Amund Westin
I can’t find any reference to A2:2021 in any EMC Harmonized standard list. Does it mean we should not make any reference to in in the DoC? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc

[PSES] SV: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD)

2023-11-02 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks, Ted, I fully support your comments. BR Amund Fra: John Woodgate Sendt: 1. november 2023 20:01 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD) Precisely. It's utter folly not to carry out, and document, appropriate

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

2023-11-01 Thread Amund Westin
Great Boštjan ! Fra: Boštjan Glavič Sendt: 1. november 2023 15:10 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014 Hello Amund 2 years is normal transition period. So once standard EN IEC 62368-1:2023 +A11 +A12 will be adopted as harmonised

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

2023-11-01 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks Boštjan Have I understood correctly, that EN62368-1:2014 will be valid for a minimum of 2 more years, whether EN62368-1:2023 will soon be approved & harmonized or not? BR Amund Fra: Boštjan Glavič Sendt: 1. november 2023 11:42 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [

[PSES] SV: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD)

2023-11-01 Thread Amund Westin
EMC apply. Then the product could be put on the market without any safety related tests .. Is that correct? BR Amund Fra: Ted Eckert Sendt: 31. oktober 2023 16:10 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD

[PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

2023-11-01 Thread Amund Westin
to replace 2014 and 2020 version? In our case, we have a CB test certificate & report according to EN62368-1 : 2014 and would hope it would be valid at least a year or two more. BR Amund Fra: Scott Xe Sendt: 8. desember 2022 10:12 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES

[PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD)

2023-10-31 Thread Amund Westin
General Product Safety Directive ... Do I interpret correct that GPSD only apply to consumer products? Not for any professional products? And the new General Product Safety Regulation (GPSR) do the same? BR Amund - This message

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Wire insulation - Flammability - IEC/EN 62368-1

2023-10-26 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks James, As I understand you, the 15W limit must not be exceeded after a single fault (within 3 seconds). Right? BR Amund Fra: James Pawson (U3C) Sendt: 24. oktober 2023 10:41 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Wire insulation - Flammability - IEC/EN 62368-1 Hi

[PSES] Wire insulation - Flammability - IEC/EN 62368-1

2023-10-24 Thread Amund Westin
As long as wire in PS1/ES 1, there are no flammability requirements for the wire insulation? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message

[PSES] SV: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-16 Thread Amund Westin
Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: James Pawson (U3C) Sendt: 16. oktober 2023 16:39 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2 Hi Amund, Annex M (batteries) is normative = shall comply. You only get to comply

[PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-16 Thread Amund Westin
requirement, that if you are to fulfill EN62368-1 and have LiPo cells in your product, then the cells must comply with this standard IEC 62133-2? How well known is IEC 62133-2? Thanks! BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes

2023-10-05 Thread Amund Westin
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes Television and radio receivers are within scope of RED  (they weren’t under R) <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> @Amund Westin – you should be careful det

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes

2023-10-05 Thread Amund Westin
not. Tricky case …. BR Amund Fra: Charlie Blackham Sendt: 5. oktober 2023 09:38 Til: rmm.priv...@gmail.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG; Amund Westin Emne: RE: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes Television and radio receivers are within scope of RED  (they weren’t

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes

2023-10-04 Thread Amund Westin
information, do you think we are still within RED or are we now outside RED? ….. Best regards Amund Fra: Charlie Blackham Sendt: 5. september 2023 09:35 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes Amund Yes

[PSES] RED certificate - validity period

2023-09-21 Thread Amund Westin
The RED EU-Type Examination Certificates I have seen, are valid for 4 years. Is the validity period something regulated by the EU or is it up to the Notified Body to set the period on the RED certificate? Best regards Amund

[PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes

2023-09-05 Thread Amund Westin
nce and unwanted signals on the basis of the relevant essential requirements of Union harmonisation legislation. Thanks! BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To p

[PSES] Flame testing lab

2023-08-24 Thread Amund Westin
We have some pieces of plastic that need to be tested, if they are UL94V-0 compliant. Anyone who knows European labs that deliver such service? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc

[PSES] SV: [PSES] User manual by accompanying documents or via affixed QR

2023-08-13 Thread Amund Westin
and the camera. On 2023-08-13 16:57, Amund Westin wrote: To avoid a lot of paper use, it is possible to leave a short instruction with the product to enter a web site or use affixed QR code (on product) to get access to the User manual and other relevant documentation? Should such a symbol Link

[PSES] SV: [PSES] User manual by accompanying documents or via affixed QR

2023-08-13 Thread Amund Westin
Can’t find info about this in the Blue Guide Fra: Amund Westin Sendt: 13. august 2023 17:57 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: [PSES] User manual by accompanying documents or via affixed QR To avoid a lot of paper use, it is possible to leave a short instruction with the product

[PSES] User manual by accompanying documents or via affixed QR

2023-08-13 Thread Amund Westin
be attached when using QR code? Best regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Generic radio standard for aeronautical service

2023-06-14 Thread Amund Westin
/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Technik/InverkehrbringenvonProdukten/Schnittstellenbeschreibungen/FlugfunkFL/RegTPSSBFL012Id1461pdf.pdf;jsessionid=63D4A874EE9637C9B4A25A6C70EB23FF?__blob=publicationFile=4 Seems to a Technical File / Notified Body case ... BR Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra

[PSES] Generic radio standard for aeronautical service

2023-06-13 Thread Amund Westin
After some searching, we see that there is a lack of radio standards that cover an important ground-based product / system within aeronautical services. How should we proceed with finding relevant test requirements? Are there any generic radio requirements that can be used as a basis? BR Amund

[PSES] EMC directive - does not apply ...

2023-05-31 Thread Amund Westin
) to a professional partner, who will test the product within its own premises? BR regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Comtest Architectural Shielding

2023-04-01 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks Doug What kind of problems could we expect in a room with spec «"Typical > 40dB of shielding effectiveness"? Noise from sources outside the chamber? Not possible to make an ambient measurement without a lot of noise coming in from the outside environment? Best r

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Comtest Architectural Shielding

2023-04-01 Thread Amund Westin
-test site. #Amund Fra: Ken Javor Sendt: 28. mars 2023 19:42 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Comtest Architectural Shielding Used similar materials or build EMI "tents." They worked quite well, but we needed just a little shielding effectivenes

[PSES] Comtest Architectural Shielding

2023-03-28 Thread Amund Westin
Please check out the datasheet attached. Anyone here in the forum that have experience with this type of shielding? The goal is => a manufacturer wants to build a pre-testing site in-house (5m x 2m x 2m). Thanks for any comments. BR Am

[PSES] Test lab will not test devices with LiPo batteries

2023-03-23 Thread Amund Westin
LiPo. Have you experienced the same attitude from your labs? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Product with LiPo battery - transportation

2023-02-15 Thread Amund Westin
will be in OFF mode, or more precisely, in a sleep mode which draws some micro amps. We assume ( or hope.) such a load is acceptable even under transport, as long as a single fault in the battery circuit will not put the battery itself in a hazard condition. Best regards Amund Fra

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Product with LiPo battery - transportation

2023-02-13 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks John, IATA is a good advice. I’ll check that.. The batteries will always be mounted inside the final product. Best regards Amund Fra: John Mcbain Sendt: 13. februar 2023 07:30 Til: Amund Westin Kopi: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Emne: Re: [PSES] Product with LiPo battery

[PSES] Product with LiPo battery - transportation

2023-02-12 Thread Amund Westin
if there are any specific requirements for testing or certification for such battery-products, which will be transported by air, train, ship, etc? Thanx! BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Link to secondary legislation draft RE: [PSES] SI amendment providing UKCA label deadline extension.

2022-11-25 Thread Amund Westin
Sorry if I have missed that information, but where can I find requirements for the UKCA logo which shall be affixed to the product. Need the check out the shape, minimum size, etc. Just like the CE logo has requirements. Thanks! BR Amund Fra: Lauren Crane Sendt: 16. november

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SI amendment providing UKCA label deadline extension.

2022-11-15 Thread Amund Westin
So we carry on as before … CE mark the product and issue the (CE) EU declaration of Conformity up to Dec. 31, 2024? The UKCA mark and UKCA declaration of Conformity will be voluntary in addition to the CE marking? Best regards Amund Fra: Tom Smith Sendt: 15. november 2022 07

[PSES] SV: [PSES] UKCA marking replaces the CE on 01/01/2023

2022-11-06 Thread Amund Westin
, but with UK standards included together with the EN standards. Right? BR Amund Fra: Amund Westin Sendt: 7. november 2022 07:15 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: [PSES] UKCA marking replaces the CE on 01/01/2023 «The UK Conformity Assessed (UKCA) mark is a mandatory mark

[PSES] UKCA marking replaces the CE on 01/01/2023

2022-11-06 Thread Amund Westin
have left the European Union». https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-make-it-simpler-for-businesses-to-apply-new-product-safety-markings Where can we find the UK legislation which apply from 01/01/2023? Best regards Amund

[PSES] Clearance components

2022-10-26 Thread Amund Westin
category? In this case, it’s a component that dissipate heat, but I assume for sure that the energy is way below the PIS 15W limit. * Best regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society

[PSES] EN 62368-1 - device include batteries (LiPo)

2022-09-05 Thread Amund Westin
spread for internal fire. Are the other aspects that should be kept in mind, when we are planning the needed space (volume) for the battery inside the device. Usually, an energy source should have some distances to the surrounds, but here the battery is placed in a metallic cover. BR Amund

[PSES] Off topic - Outlook issue

2022-08-31 Thread Amund Westin
and Microsoft has forgotten to present the phone number on the web for such assistance  Any help is appreciated. Cheers! Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list

[PSES] IEC/EN 62368-1 Test report template

2022-08-31 Thread Amund Westin
We are considering a review of the standard IEC/EN 62368-1. A test report template would be helpful. Anyone who sell such a template? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

[PSES] SV: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

2022-08-04 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks! So, currently we can just use our existing CE DoC documents, but from 01.01.2023, those documents are not valid and an UKCA approval must be in place … right? If that’s the fact, the period to 01.01.2023 is short and I would prepare for an UKCA approval right now. BR Amund

[PSES] UKCA - announcement from GOV.UK

2022-07-17 Thread Amund Westin
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-make-it-simpler-for-busines ses-to-apply-new-product-safety-markings Our plan was to go through an EU Notified Body and apply for the UKCA approval. Does this announcement make any really differences? BR Amund

[PSES] UKCA

2022-06-28 Thread Amund Westin
how old they are. Thanks! BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived

[PSES] Chasing a specific frequency

2022-05-05 Thread Amund Westin
component at 63MHz. At this stage, we have not investigated the trace layouts or the layers stacking of the pcb. We have done some introduction of clean power (batteries) and in the same time, bypassed DCDC converters to observe the difference in noise spectrum. On the right track? BR Amund

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Numbers of insulation layers in transformer (IEC62368)

2022-02-24 Thread Amund Westin
. 62368-1 product (AC powered WiFi HUB). No cabling/wiring on secondary side. Cheers! BR Amund Fra: Joe Randolph Sendt: 18. februar 2022 05:09 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Numbers of insulation layers in transformer (IEC62368) Hi Amund

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Numbers of insulation layers in transformer (IEC62368)

2022-02-16 Thread Amund Westin
give access to secondary circuits. Best regards Amund Fra: Richard Nute Sendt: 16. februar 2022 23:09 Til: 'Amund Westin' ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [PSES] Numbers of insulation layers in transformer (IEC62368) Hi Amund: Since the unit does not have grounding

[PSES] Numbers of insulation layers in transformer (IEC62368)

2022-02-16 Thread Amund Westin
product Thanks. Best regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived

[PSES] SV: [PSES] IP Code Question

2022-02-15 Thread Amund Westin
IP66 is for harsh outdoor conditions (industrial, offshore, ships, carwash, etc.) IPX6 : powerful water jets (water hose :100 liters / minute). IP67 (temporary immersion in water) Best regards Amund Fra: sudhakar wasnik Sendt: 14. februar 2022 22:57 Til: EMC-PSTC

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Max Hold Quasi-peak ?

2021-12-06 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks guys. I checked out the actual case yesterday and was told that the reason for observing QP for a longer time was that the product had used a spread spectrum technique. Best regards Amund Fra: Paasche, Dieter Sendt: 6. desember 2021 16:35 Til: EMC-PSTC

[PSES] Max Hold Quasi-peak ?

2021-12-05 Thread Amund Westin
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[PSES] SV: [PSES] RED standard for LoRa sensor end device

2021-12-03 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks Charlie, Yes, «LoRa sensor» was an inaccurate way to describe a temperature sensor using the LoRa communication protocol. I’ll look more into EN 300 220-2 V3.1.1. Thanks! Best regards Amund Fra: Charlie Blackham Sendt: 3. desember 2021 11:22 Til: EMC-PSTC

[PSES] RED standard for LoRa sensor end device

2021-12-03 Thread Amund Westin
Checking out the harmonized EU standards, but can’t find any specific radio standard for LoRa devices (operates in the 868MHz band) Anyone who has experience about appropriate standard? The first that comes in my mind is EN 300 220 series. Best regards Amund

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Creepage and clearance requirements

2021-09-15 Thread Amund Westin
Boštjan, Good advice. Any conductive materials in non-conductive enclosures are risky business. BR Amund Fra: Boštjan Glavič Sendt: 15. september 2021 07:02 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Creepage and clearance requirements Hi Amund, If plastic enclosure

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Creepage and clearance requirements

2021-09-15 Thread Amund Westin
I support such thoughts. Consumer products will probably, if not working, be thrown into waste bin or sent back to manufacturer for repair. Onsite service can be performed by skilled persons that is trained to handle such situations with potential hazard. BR Amund Fra: Scott

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Creepage and clearance requirements

2021-09-15 Thread Amund Westin
, then it is of course positive. Best regards Amund Fra: Pete Perkins Sendt: 14. september 2021 16:51 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Creepage and clearance requirements Amund,I support Rich’s approach. It does leave a lingering question, though

[PSES] Creepage and clearance requirements

2021-09-12 Thread Amund Westin
requirements between primary and secondary circuits, does it make any sense as long as the device has no cables and is encapsulated by a plastic enclosure I understand that there should be some Creepage and clearance to withstand OVC II (250V transient). Best regards Amund

[PSES] Radiated emission - troubleshooting with current clamp

2021-06-09 Thread Amund Westin
, is a good tool for finding the noise and the wires that may act as antennas? Best regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list

[PSES] Surtec 650

2021-05-20 Thread Amund Westin
Planning to coat the an aluminum part with Surtec 650 https://www.surtec.com/en/products/surtec-650/ before painting so we get minimum resistance before bonding the gasket. Anyone who have experience with Surtec 650? Best regards Amund

[PSES] EMC Product standard

2021-05-18 Thread Amund Westin
Looking for some examples of EMC Product standards that as commonly used under CE marking. So far, I have only found a lot of Product Family standards . Thanks for some examples ! Best regards Amund - This message is from

[PSES] Become CB member

2021-04-22 Thread Amund Westin
Anyone who knows there we can find the procedure for becoming a CB test lab and issuing CB certificates? And for those who have been into this process, how long time from start to end? years? Thanks! Amund - This message

[PSES] Adaptive Power Control (SRD - Short Range Devices)

2021-03-28 Thread Amund Westin
egards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at

[PSES] Electrical safety certification for US / Canada

2021-02-16 Thread Amund Westin
The following can issue Electrical safety certifications: CSA UL FM Any others? It's IT-products. BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message

[PSES] UL = IEC ??

2021-01-21 Thread Amund Westin
When IEC publish a standard, do UL adopt it as is, or do they modify it? I guess this will vary form case to case. Right? Best regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Thoughts on what may be the emission source

2020-11-28 Thread Amund Westin
Derek, 240/480MHz sound like USB 2.0 High speed It's 4 USB-ports on the RPi ? Br Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: DEREK WALTON Sendt: 28. november 2020 00:49 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: [PSES] Thoughts on what may be the emission source Hi Folks, I’m working

[PSES] Plastic enclosure manufacturer

2020-11-22 Thread Amund Westin
Looking for plastic enclosure manufacturers for custom box design. We have prepared a first 3D drawing, but need help to smoothen the look and make a first small production serie. Any recommended manufactures out there? Thanks! Best regards Amund Westin Oslo, Norway

[PSES] SV: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-22 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks Brian, as simple as possible. Best regards Amund Fra: Brian Kunde Sendt: 22. november 2020 06:26 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC Because we provide DoCs translated into over 30 languages, we try to avoid text that has to be translated. Our type

[PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-21 Thread Amund Westin
For EU compliance, I assume Directive 2011/65/EU is still the correct reference to use? I see several parties who is referring to 2015/863 in their DoC, but isn't that reference just a replacement for Annex II in 2011/65/EU? Best regards Amund

[PSES] SV: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 - coin cell batteries inside product

2020-10-29 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks Andreas, We have got the same impression that a certificate IEC 60086-4, is now required, which it wasn’t under 60950 Even an UL approval UL60086-4 wasn’t good enough according to our local test & cert. body. Best regards Amund Fra: Graevinghoff Andreas (ETA

[PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 - coin cell batteries inside product

2020-10-29 Thread Amund Westin
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[PSES] IEC 61000-4-18 vs. MIL-STD 461 CS116

2020-10-04 Thread Amund Westin
? … or is it possible that test instruments for CS116 also can carry out the tests according to IEC 61000-4-18? Cheers! Best regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

Re: [PSES] In-house Conducted emission test equipment

2020-09-04 Thread Amund Jobb
400AC, Ken. 3-phase. L3, L2, L1, N, PE Ebay may be an alternate, but brand new is also an option. Only peak might be good enough, but QP and Avg are options aswell. BR Amund Sendt fra min iPhone > 4. sep. 2020 kl. 17:17 skrev Ken Wyatt : > > Is that 400V AC or DC? That will make a d

[PSES] In-house Conducted emission test equipment

2020-09-03 Thread Amund Westin
Need to establish a pre-qual test setup for Conducted emission testing in-house. EUT will be 400V / 16A. Any suggestion on such low cost test eqiupment? LISN and spectrum analyzer …. Best regards Amund - This message is from

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Conducted emission - AC line filters makes it worse

2020-07-01 Thread Amund Westin
l also be reflected when later on doing this with a LISN. Anyone who have tried such troubleshooting technique? Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Mvh Amund Westin ** Cell: (+47) 920 17 031 E-mail: <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> am...@westin

[PSES] SV: Conducted emission - AC line filters makes it worse

2020-06-29 Thread Amund Westin
about that ground connection to the main part? Correct type of filter? .. BR Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Amund Westin Sendt: 28. juni 2020 10:59 Til: EMC PSTC Emne: Conducted emission - AC line filters makes it worse A 3-phase product has three in

[PSES] Conducted emission - AC line filters makes it worse

2020-06-28 Thread Amund Westin
performance? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http

[PSES] Electrical safety testing US and Canada ... Mandatory ?

2020-05-25 Thread Amund Westin
Sorry for bringing up this issue again, but I have lost my history for all previous IEEE mails ... I know (assume ...) that UL, CSA, FM and others are voluntary for showing compliance. But that is actually required by law in US and C? Thanks! Best regards Amund

[PSES] SV: [PSES] 21 CFR § 1040.10 - Laser products.

2020-05-19 Thread Amund Westin
as a component (or replacement) in such electronic product, I suppose the manufacturer of the final product should not deal with 21 CFR § 1040.10 and instead be aware and purchase laser devices which are ready tested and approved according to this regulation. Agree? Best regards Amund

[PSES] 21 CFR § 1040.10 - Laser products.

2020-05-19 Thread Amund Westin
Anyone who have been through the process for complying to 21 CFR § 1040.10? Time consuming process? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Stripline - discontinuity in adjacent ground planes

2020-03-19 Thread Amund Westin
Note that the worst situation may occur when both planes are equal, In this PCB, they are more or less equal. It's an 8-layer stack (bottom/ Layer8=GND, Layer7=Signals, Layer6=GND, and .). But the signal traces in Layer7 have now continuous return path in both L8 and L6. Regards Amund

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Stripline - discontinuity in adjacent ground planes

2020-03-19 Thread Amund Westin
signal /crtl. lines Regards Amund Fra: James Pawson (U3C) Sendt: 18. mars 2020 09:51 Til: 'Amund Westin' ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [PSES] Stripline - discontinuity in adjacent ground planes Hi Amund, Are the distances from GND1-Signal the same as Signal-GND2 i.e

[PSES] Stripline - discontinuity in adjacent ground planes

2020-03-18 Thread Amund Westin
for the traces in the adjacent SIGNAL layer? Best regards Amund Westin - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All

[PSES] RED - risk assessment

2020-03-07 Thread Amund Westin
When going for a RED certificate from a Notified Body, have you received a risk assessment template to fill in or do you supply with your own self-made risk document? (Maybe based on CENELEC guide 32 . ) Best regards Amund

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Ground copper fill on signal layer on multilayer PCB

2020-02-22 Thread Amund Westin
are many other potential places for EMI leakage. We will use a sniffer to check out. Best regards Amund Fra: Istvan Novak Sendt: 21. februar 2020 14:28 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Ground copper fill on signal layer on multilayer PCB Hi

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Ground copper fill on signal layer on multilayer PCB

2020-02-18 Thread Amund Westin
Hi Ken No, I have not considered edge-plating. I’ll look into this now. We have some high frequency noise (400-500MHz) from differential lines leaking out from an inner layer of a multilayer pcb. Edge-plating might be a good solution. Thanks for the tip. BR Amund Fra: IBM Ken

[PSES] Ground copper fill on signal layer on multilayer PCB

2020-02-18 Thread Amund Westin
at all Best regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] PCB layout technique - multilayer

2020-02-14 Thread Amund Westin
such a switch of layers? Best regards Amund On 2020-02-10 17:58, Ken Wyatt wrote: Hi Amund/Gert, I agree with Gert’s advice, that all (especially high speed) signal layers need to have an adjacent ground return plane in order to properly capture the electromagnetic wave of the digital

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] PCB layout technique - multilayer

2020-02-12 Thread Amund Westin
Ken, Really great series about PCB design for minimal EMC. I have been through all four now, and a lot of good advices and field theory. I have some follow-up questions soon  Best regards Amund Fra: Ken Wyatt Sendt: 10. februar 2020 17:59 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

[PSES] SV: [PSES] PCB layout technique - multilayer

2020-02-10 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks Gert I want to read your advices with great attention. Just one immediately follow-up ==>This Misc layer, is it an extra layer for signal routing, as a Sbott3? Mvh Amund Fra: Gert Gremmen Sendt: 10. februar 2020 09:57 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne:

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