Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-11 Thread Kunde, Brian
62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America In message 90b959e8e6ef491999a2e9d8a3cbf...@dm2pr03mb383.namprd03.prod.outlook.com , dated Sat, 9 Aug 2014, Ted Eckert ted.eck...@microsoft.com writes: NFPA 70, the National Electrical Code (NEC), Article 100 defines Continuous

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB026AA046@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: On the IEC/EN/UL 61010-1 standard (safety of ISM equipment) that we primarily deal with, it simply states that on the equipment you must

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message xpokcbsb24qxrjiimsb3y5ib.1407541987...@email.android.com, dated Sat, 9 Aug 2014, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: Chuck, the rating on the product should be the max steady state current. The NEC requires the plug to be rated 125% of the max continuous current, which

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-09 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Dear John, Please check clause E.1 in IEC 62368-1. I believe requirements in IEC 60065 are exactly the same. You need to use 1kHz source to verify what input signal amplitude results in output clipping. Then you need to set 1/8 of maximum non clipped output power with pink noise on input.

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message 870429ad-e617-4f85-8667-f842b16df...@siq.si, dated Sat, 9 Aug 2014, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Bo=B9tjan_Glavi=E8?= bostjan.gla...@siq.si writes: Please check clause E.1 in IEC 62368-1. I believe requirements in IEC 60065 are exactly the same. You need to use 1kHz source to verify what input

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-09 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Dear John, In IEC 60950-1 in clause 1.6.2 you can find following definition: In each case, the readings are taken when the input current has stabilized. If the current varies during the normal operating cycle, the steady-state current is taken as the mean indication of the value, measured on a

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message cb8f1261-0506-41e4-9bb8-a79a38746...@siq.si, dated Sat, 9 Aug 2014, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Bo=B9tjan_Glavi=E8?= bostjan.gla...@siq.si writes: In IEC 60950-1 in clause 1.6.2 you can find following definition: While that explains the term, it is not a definition in IEC terms. It should

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-09 Thread Kunde, Brian
deal with this issue often with NRTLs and with Canada. The Other Brian Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: John Woodgate Date:08/09/2014 6:38 AM (GMT-05:00) To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message 4olge8oelwipfqebvwvbm4o4.1407592105...@email.android.com, dated Sat, 9 Aug 2014, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: I won't be in my office until until Monday morning to look up the specific references. And I'm familiar with the method used to determine the power or

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-09 Thread Ted Eckert
[mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, August 8, 2014 11:43 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America In message xpokcbsb24qxrjiimsb3y5ib.1407541987...@email.android.com, dated Sat, 9 Aug 2014, Kunde

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message 90b959e8e6ef491999a2e9d8a3cbf...@dm2pr03mb383.namprd03.prod.outlook.com , dated Sat, 9 Aug 2014, Ted Eckert ted.eck...@microsoft.com writes: NFPA 70, the National Electrical Code (NEC), Article 100 defines Continuous Load as A load where the maximum current is expected to continue

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-09 Thread Ted Eckert
expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2014 8:09 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message 43d66429a8514d7bbf93b2db953bc...@dm2pr03mb383.namprd03.prod.outlook.com , dated Sat, 9 Aug 2014, Ted Eckert ted.eck...@microsoft.com writes: You are correct. There is no definition for continuous input current in the National Electrical Code. Thank you. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only.

[PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-08 Thread Chuck McDowell
Dear Colleagues, Does EN/IEC 60065 and/or EN/IEC 62368-1 allow product marking a AC input to use rating 250V~, 32A when the appliance coupler AC rating is 250V~, 32A rating by VDE license? I plan to use a IEC 60309 style 250V~ 32A Plug connector with appropriate cordage. This is single

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-08 Thread Kunde, Brian
/2014 4:37 PM (GMT-05:00) To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America Dear Colleagues, Does EN/IEC 60065 and/or EN/IEC 62368-1 allow product marking a AC input to use rating 250V~, 32A when the appliance coupler AC

Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America

2014-08-08 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
-Dave From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 8:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: IEC 62368-1 rated AC input connector amperage differs from North America Chuck, the rating on the product should be the max steady state current