Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-11-01 Thread Anthony Thomson
internally. Like a spurious /reset signal can in a digital system… We’ve all observed that, haven’t we? T - Original Message - From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen Sent: 10/31/12 08:53 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread Michael Derby
-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? I recently preformed a safety evaluation of a product made in the far east which contained a suspicious looking rf line filter. Instead of the nice silkscreened markings showing the company name, numbers and a schematic

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread Ed Price
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? I was chatting with a power supply manufacturer who told me he had worked hard to design his power supply and get it through all the necessary regulations. When complete, he sent the design and instructions out to the manufacturing

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread Anthony Thomson
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? I recently preformed a safety evaluation of a product made in the far east which contained a suspicious looking rf line filter. Instead of the nice silkscreened markings showing the company name, numbers and a schematic of the filter

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread John Woodgate
In message 229701cdb74a$4c8797f0$e596c7d0$@acbcert.com, dated Wed, 31 Oct 2012, Michael Derby micha...@acbcert.com writes: I was chatting with a power supply manufacturer who told me he had worked hard to design his power supply and get it through all the necessary regulations. When

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread John Woodgate
In message 000b01cdb750$cd62bfc0$68283f40$@cox.net, dated Wed, 31 Oct 2012, Ed Price edpr...@cox.net writes: I thought that compliance testing was supposed to be done on the as-shipped product, not the designer's prototype. Neither: the prototype is not representative and 'as shipped' is too

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread McInturff, Gary
but that can be prohibitively costly to do effectively when lots of product lines are involved. Gary -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:55 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread Brian Oconnell
-Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of McInturff, Gary Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:47 AM To: 'John Woodgate'; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: RE: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? Morning Ed, John has it correct. A company

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Did you open it ? What was inside ? Tuna fish ? Gert Gremmen Ce-test, qualified testing -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Kunde, Brian Verzonden: dinsdag 30 oktober 2012 21:42 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Possible

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
and their baby. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of McInturff, Gary Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:47 AM To: 'John Woodgate'; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Subject: RE: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? Morning Ed, John has

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread Ed Price
Price Chula Vista, CA USA   -Original Message- From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:47 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? Morning Ed, John has it correct. A company

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread Ed Price
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? Did you open it ? What was inside ? Tuna fish ? Gert Gremmen Ce-test, qualified testing -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Kunde, Brian Verzonden

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA489140A9E@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Wed, 31 Oct 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: Had a 200 Watt power supply last week that simply shut-off (fold back) at 10V/m . It was applied in a laboratory equipment for

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread John Woodgate
In message 005c01cdb79e$c14f5510$43edff30$@cox.net, dated Wed, 31 Oct 2012, Ed Price edpr...@cox.net writes: I didn't understand John's answer; I thought he said the prototype unit was too early, the production units too late, and the pre-production phase doesn't happen anymore. I was

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA489140A9F@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Wed, 31 Oct 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: Did you open it ? What was inside ? Tuna fish ? Gefilter fish, obviously.(;-) -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. See

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
2012 20:49 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA489140A9E@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Wed, 31 Oct 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: Had a 200 Watt power supply

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread Brian Oconnell
, October 31, 2012 12:22 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? Had a 200 Watt power supply last week that simply shut-off (fold back) at 10V/m . It was applied in a laboratory equipment for creating expensive bio-cultures for vaccination

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA489140AA1@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Wed, 31 Oct 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: I do. Output power FETs may have parasitic oscillations on the edges The one and only analog (analogue) high end power amp

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread Kunde, Brian
We didn't open it yet for we have no spares right now. But we did just finish performing the line conducted emissions test, which it failed. Tomorrow we will retest with the line filter removed to see if it is doing anything. Once we get a replacement component we will open this filter up to

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
the center tap of the ethernet transformer ??? Gert Gremmen -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Brian Oconnell Verzonden: woensdag 31 oktober 2012 21:29 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: RE: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread McInturff, Gary
the time unfortunately. Gary -Original Message- From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:53 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? We didn't open it yet for we have no spares right now

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-31 Thread McInturff, Gary
- From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:53 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? Brian, This was an industrial marketed power supply (component) as not suitable

[PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-30 Thread Kunde, Brian
I recently preformed a safety evaluation of a product made in the far east which contained a suspicious looking rf line filter. Instead of the nice silkscreened markings showing the company name, numbers and a schematic of the filter components, it just had a basic printed label. When I removed

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-30 Thread Dward
this communication in error, and delete it from your computer system.  -Original Message- From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:42 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? I recently preformed a safety

Re: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components?

2012-10-30 Thread Knudsen, Patricia
...@lecotc.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 1:42 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Possible Counterfeit EMC Components? I recently preformed a safety evaluation of a product made in the far east which contained a suspicious looking rf line filter. Instead of the nice