RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-25 Thread Gary McInturff
...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? I'm curious... How is in-rush current handled for these connectors? Seems like it would be somewhat easy to specify that a connector is good for hot swapping a device that draws X Amps of current. It's the in-rush that would be hard

RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-25 Thread Chris Maxwell
: Tania Grant [SMTP:taniagr...@msn.com] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 1:59 AM To: Gary McInturff; 'wo...@sensormatic.com'; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? Gary, and all, In my experience, the only sure way is to request the UL Report and read

Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-23 Thread John Woodgate
oe133wwsorkbpg1kiae00037...@hotmail.com, Tania Grant taniagr...@msn.com inimitably wrote: I was quacking in my sandals You were expecting to have to duck when the fertilizer hit the fan? -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. Phone +44 (0)1268 747839 Fax +44 (0)1268 777124.

Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-23 Thread Tania Grant
!) Tania Grant taniagr...@msn.com - Original Message - From: Gary McInturff Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:59 PM To: 'wo...@sensormatic.com'; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? Richard, I'm a little less ebullient today than yesterday. Recognized Hot-swappable

RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-22 Thread Gary McInturff
...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 9:30 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? Gary, is the hot swappable approval included in the UL Conditions of Acceptability or is a different component category? Richard Woods -- From: Gary

Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-22 Thread Tania Grant
- Original Message - From: John Woodgate Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 6:15 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? oe49kqvsdtdh2iwpj5td...@hotmail.com, Tania Grant taniagr...@msn.com inimitably wrote: However, the CSA evaluating engineer made us

RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-21 Thread WOODS
To: 'Lesmeister, Glenn'; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? They have hot swappable connectors that have already been subjected to the test as part of the component recognition, but I don't remember the CCN number. -Original Message

RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-21 Thread Gary McInturff
...@ieee.org Subject: RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? Richard, What is the test plan for making and breaking under load? In general, power supplies take a little bit of time to start up, so making contact under load is not going to be an issue. UL has specified a 200 cycle disconnect test

Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-21 Thread Andrew Carson
Subject: Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? Another UL specific test to consider it the Connector Current Interrupt Test. Hot plug your device 200 times and recheck the dielectric strength and earth path. It is a new UL requirements and the test sheet currently does not have a number

RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-21 Thread Lesmeister, Glenn
:RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? We are currently evaluating a system with hot swappable power supplies and PCBs and here is what we have found needs to be checked: o Earthing pin makes first and breaks last o Primary and secondary power connectors are rated for make/break

RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-21 Thread David_Sterner
Here are several 60950 issues: 1) Are exposed hot terminals accessable when P/S is removed? Depending on whether the power supplies are 'shared' or switchover' and types of diode protection, there may be hazardous voltages or currents on the connectors (check the amperage and joule availablity).

RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-21 Thread WOODS
: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:50 PM To: 'Dan Teninty' Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? There must be a bleeder resistor (across the X caps) to make the AC input pins safe to touch once the supply is removed from

Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-21 Thread John Woodgate
oe49kqvsdtdh2iwpj5td...@hotmail.com, Tania Grant taniagr...@msn.com inimitably wrote:  However, the CSA evaluating engineer made us place a label, such as when the supply was pulled out, the label immediately were made visible, that stated the usual  

Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-21 Thread Andrew Carson
Swappable Power Supplies ? There must be a bleeder resistor (across the X caps) to make the AC input pins safe to touch once the supply is removed from the cabinet. If there are exposed voltage or energy hazards with the supply removed, there must be a restriction such that only trained

Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-21 Thread Tania Grant
. Tania Grant taniagr...@msn.com - Original Message - From: Doug McKean Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 6:31 PM To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group Subject: Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? What's the accessibility to pins or traces or anything carrying hazardous energy when a power supply

Re: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-21 Thread Doug McKean
What's the accessibility to pins or traces or anything carrying hazardous energy when a power supply is pulled out? - Doug --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site

RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-20 Thread Kazimier_Gawrzyjal
. Regards, Kaz Gawrzyjal kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com -Original Message- From: Richardson, William G [mailto:william.richard...@unisys.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:50 PM To: 'Dan Teninty' Cc: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ? There must be a bleeder

RE: Hot Swappable Power Supplies ?

2001-06-20 Thread Richardson, William G
There must be a bleeder resistor (across the X caps) to make the AC input pins safe to touch once the supply is removed from the cabinet. If there are exposed voltage or energy hazards with the supply removed, there must be a restriction such that only trained personnel are instructed to do