Re: [PSES] Conflict - cited standard vs. OJ standard

2014-02-05 Thread Harris, Kevin J (DSC)
with the CENELEC secretariat and is expected to go to vote in due course -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: February-04-14 12:38 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Conflict - cited standard vs. OJ standard In message 023e01cf21ca

Re: [PSES] Conflict - cited standard vs. OJ standard

2014-02-05 Thread John Woodgate
In message b9e85dc3f0723c42b041f9ae6e37b3481cc...@003fch1mpn2-053.003f.mgd2.msft.ne t, dated Wed, 5 Feb 2014, Harris, Kevin J (DSC) kevinharr...@tycoint.com writes: I have consulted with TC 72 (the authors of the EN 54 series) It should be clarified that this is CEN TC72, not IEC or

Re: [PSES] Conflict - cited standard vs. OJ standard

2014-02-04 Thread John Woodgate
In message 000a01cf2182$bfd4c090$3f7e41b0$@westin-emission.no, dated Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Amund Westin am...@westin-emission.no writes: ome of the standards in the EN54-series (fire alarm equipment / CPR - Contruction Product Regulations) have reference to the EMC standard EN50130-4. Not only the

Re: [PSES] Conflict - cited standard vs. OJ standard

2014-02-04 Thread Brian Jones
Amund, everyone The principle is that the primary harmonised standard (in this case EN 54) sets the requirements, and the dated reference prevails over the edition listed in the OJ. However if EN 50130-4 is applied directly in its own right to a product, then the OJ dates are used. The guidance

Re: [PSES] Conflict - cited standard vs. OJ standard

2014-02-04 Thread John Woodgate
In message 00bc01cf2191$4d2ec900$e78c5b00$@co.uk, dated Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Brian Jones e...@brianjones.co.uk writes: he principle is that the primary harmonised standard (in this case EN 54) sets the requirements, and the dated reference prevails over the edition listed in the OJ. However if

Re: [PSES] Conflict - cited standard vs. OJ standard

2014-02-04 Thread Harris, Kevin J (DSC)
no bearing (from an EMC point of view) on conformity. Kind Regards Kevin -Original Message- From: Brian Jones [mailto:e...@brianjones.co.uk] Sent: February-04-14 5:10 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Conflict - cited standard vs. OJ standard Amund, everyone

Re: [PSES] Conflict - cited standard vs. OJ standard

2014-02-04 Thread Brian Jones
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Conflict - cited standard vs. OJ standard Brian, That guidance is not quite applicable here. Only EN 50130-4 is listed in the OJ as an EMC standard and so can be the only standard used for presumption of conformity. The EN 54 series is a product performance set

Re: [PSES] Conflict - cited standard vs. OJ standard

2014-02-04 Thread John Woodgate
In message 023e01cf21ca$7b5915e0$720b41a0$@co.uk, dated Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Brian Jones e...@brianjones.co.uk writes: OK, this is a problem with giving general guidance on a list such as this! The guidance that I described works when the two harmonised standards are harmonised under the same