Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-03-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message d9c1067d2cb544069485d5c3cdbf4...@bn1pr08mb059.namprd08.prod.outlook.com , dated Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Nyffenegger, Dave dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com writes: they don't seem to understand what a critical components list is. I've given them examples and not gotten very far so I was

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-03-14 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
repeated requests. I finally got them to provide the manufacturer names and part numbers. -Dave -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 3:22 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-03-14 Thread Kunde, Brian
[mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 8:16 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions Actually I wasn't just referring to their selection of components (in itself an issue, they pretty much included the entire BOM) but the information

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-03-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message f252eaa5d4244adf96b4f1641a6a5...@bn1pr08mb059.namprd08.prod.outlook.com , dated Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Nyffenegger, Dave dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com writes: They haven't provided any of the NRTL mark info, critical tech specs, or applicable standards the parts are certified to after

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-03-14 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
in quite a while. -Dave -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:35 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions In message f252eaa5d4244adf96b4f1641a6a5...@bn1pr08mb059.namprd08

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-03-14 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Subject: Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions I have always viewed the Safety Critical Components List (SCCL) as kind of like a Cheat Sheet or Road Map to a safety inspection. As probably most Safety Inspectors, I wouldn't even think about starting a safety evaluation without the SCCL up front

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-03-14 Thread Charlie Blackham
. Regards Charlie -Original Message- From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: 14 March 2014 14:54 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions All makes perfect sense. In the case of a project I have now which

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-03-13 Thread Brian Oconnell
to including the C/C tables found in the safety and EMC reports. Brian From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 1:07 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions Dave Directive are “higher level

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-03-13 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
[mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 4:36 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions Do not know, but in principle should be ok. The 'flagged' components in the company's document control system is typically a superset of the C/C

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-03-12 Thread Charlie Blackham
file? thanks -Dave -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 1:38 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions Concur with Mr. Nute. Was once

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-03-11 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 1:38 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions Concur with Mr. Nute. Was once asked to provide a clear definition of a safety-critical component

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-02-26 Thread Peter Tarver
From: Brian Oconnell Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 10:38 Concur with Mr. Nute. Ditto. To add by way of example, there was a recent thread on regulating network. Components without which or the failure of which the network would lose it regulating function (within the context of the

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-02-24 Thread Brian Oconnell
to a regulatory requirement. Brian -Original Message- From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2014 12:13 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions Hi Dave: There are no standard definitions for critical components

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-02-22 Thread Doug Powell
Dave,  You pretty well outlined the main concerns for safety critical components. Identifying all the hazards and risks is the first step and then identifying the components relied upon to mitigate those issues is next. As product testing proceeds there may be additional components added. I

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-02-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message d0260b4f9aff41a5b0341a5da9c97...@bn1pr08mb059.namprd08.prod.outlook.com , dated Sat, 22 Feb 2014, Nyffenegger, Dave dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com writes: 'm looking for some more recent definitions/guidelines/criteria for determining what constitutes critical components for the

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-02-22 Thread John Woodgate
In message piCrlsB$lnctf...@jmwa.demon.co.uk, dated Sat, 22 Feb 2014, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk writes: I'm primarily looking for the safety related components. Guidelines can only be so general that they probably don't help you at your stage. Instead you need to develop further

Re: [PSES] Critical Components definitions

2014-02-22 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Dave: There are no standard definitions for critical components. However, do a Google search for critical components list and you will find a number of examples and opinions as to a definition of critical components. For example,