Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 1:18 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals? Hi Jamison: Supposedly, only the safety instructions that are specified in the standard can be arbitrarily subject to “printed” versus “electronic

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread john Allen
PPS: the Chinese general to whom I referred was Sun Zu – “google” that if you want to find out more. From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 14 November 2016 22:20 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals? PS: that the quoted “know thine

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread john Allen
W.London, UK From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 14 November 2016 22:00 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals? TBH, this subject will run and run – until, “some day”, “someone in authority” “some where” will make a “definitive” statement

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread john Allen
appy to try to help if you do. John E Allen (“Compliance with Experience Ltd”) W.London, UK From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: 14 November 2016 21:18 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals? Hi Jamison: Supposedly, only the sa

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Jamison: Supposedly, only the safety instructions that are specified in the standard can be arbitrarily subject to “printed” versus “electronic” where the standard does not so specify. Many products today are “stand-alone” safe, where the safety is not dependent on installation

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread Kortas, Jamison
Well, at some point hey moved away from stone tablets, so there is hope! Thanks, Jamison From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 12:37 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals? There is also the issue, which I know has

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread John Woodgate
on.kor...@ecolab.com] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 6:57 PM To: John Woodgate <jmw1...@btinternet.com>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Paper Manuals? Well, at some point hey moved away from stone tablets, so there is hope! Thanks, Jamison From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@bt

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread Scott Aldous
[mailto:peperkin...@cs.com <peperkin...@cs.com>] > *Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2016 12:00 PM > *To:* Kortas, Jamison <jamison.kor...@ecolab.com>; > EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* RE: [PSES] Paper Manuals? > > > > Jamison, et al, > > > >

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread Kortas, Jamison
on.kor...@ecolab.com>>; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: RE: [PSES] Paper Manuals? Jamison, et al, It’s less the responsibility of the standards writing organization to dictate the manual paper or electronic rather to indicate clearl

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread John Woodgate
:12 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals? I haven’t tried in a while but at the time - 10 years ago and got the same mixed results you appear to have gotten. When pressed about the only reason they could give me was concern was that not all people have access to computer

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread Gary McInturff
I haven’t tried in a while but at the time - 10 years ago and got the same mixed results you appear to have gotten. When pressed about the only reason they could give me was concern was that not all people have access to computers etc. to read the manual even if given a disc in the shipping

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

2016-11-14 Thread Pete Perkins
Jamison, et al, It’s less the responsibility of the standards writing organization to dictate the manual paper or electronic rather to indicate clearly what information is required to be provided to the user to ensure that the product can safely be installed and operated by