Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-08-02 Thread Ron Pickard
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Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-30 Thread John Barnes
Chris, You may want to look at some of the "polymer aluminum electrolytic" capacitors from: * Cornell Dubilier. * Elna. * Jaro Components. * Kemet. * Matsushita. * NIC Components Corporation. * Nichicon. * Panasonic. * Samchung. * SDK. * etc. I've used them on the last two controller c

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-30 Thread Scott Douglas
Chris, I've had this same problem over the years with many man hours spent looking for why. We changed to 35 and 50 V parts to good effect in some cases. Other cases were not so easy. I like Cortland's idea the problem is charge current at turn-on. We had a 5 output 350 watt supply and there

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-30 Thread T.Sato
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:41:32 -0400, "Chris Maxwell" wrote: > One of my colleagues is testing a new design. He has designed a > buck-boost switching converter which has tantalum output capacitors. > We have looked at his design and gone through the calculations. His > output current is 4 A ma

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-29 Thread Cortland Richmond
When we started seeing 50 volt caps blowing up on a 5 volt output it became evident that the problem _we_ had, "instant mortality" (grin), was over-current, not over-voltage. We didn't actually see a voltage transient - a 'scope had in fact ruled that out - but someone in management had apparentl

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-29 Thread Doug McKean
Been a while, but the voices from a former life in my head are reminding me of something to the effect that rated ripple current of cap is based on a perfect sine wave of ripple. Any other type of waveform can drastically effect that rating. SuperLo ESR caps were used one time to solve such

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-29 Thread Ken Javor
ients on Line-Connected Capacitors, NASA/CR-2000-209906, NASA Marshall Space Flight Center, AL 35812, February 2000, pp. 33. and it can be found at: http://see.msfc.nasa.gov/see/ee/eepub.html   -- >From: "Chris Maxwell" >To: "EMC-PSTC Internet Forum" >Subje

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-29 Thread Hans Mellberg
Nonetheless, inrush current aside, a 20V Tantalum is considered marginal for a 12V circuit if reliability is desired. A 60% derating factor was and is a typical max for reliability circuits, i.e a 30V min rated cap is recommended. Tantalums require additional derating than Al-electrolytics. Fur

Re: Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-29 Thread Cortland Richmond
Chris, The issue isn't voltage rating; low-ESR caps such as these are susceptible to excessive charging current at turn-on. At a former employer, we saw REALLY GOOD, expensive caps used on a computer's 5V bus exploding at turn-on, even ones rated at 50 volts. Replacing them with cheaper electrol

Tantalum Capacitor Reliability

2002-07-29 Thread Chris Maxwell
Hi all, By the way, thank you to the various group members for the responses regarding the hazardous atmosphere classifications. One of my colleagues is testing a new design. He has designed a buck-boost switching converter which has tantalum output capacitors. We have looked at his desi