ETSI standards vs NEBS

2000-09-28 Thread Dave Wilson
Does anyone have a feel for the degree of acceptance of GR-63/1089 in Europe? I can remember at a previous company we got LONIIS in Russia to accept NEBS test results with minimal additional assessment against ETS 300 019/119. Anyone else have any stories to tell, other than the obvious spatial

Re: Probing power plane with analyser.

2000-09-28 Thread Robert Macy
We made a probe using rigid coax with its built in SMA connector. Solder a pin to the side of the coax and file it diagonally to create a sharp point. To increase the loading impedance we used an SMA collar that had been filed out to place a series chip resistor of 470 ohms in series with the

RE: Probing power plane with analyser.

2000-09-28 Thread George Sparacino
Cameron, Checkout Doug Smith's webpage for some insight on making RF measurements using various (homemade) probes. http://emcesd.com/ Good Luck, George -Original Message- From: Cameron O'phee [mailto:O'p...@ali.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 8:59 PM To: 'EMC - PSTC

Re: Probing power plane with analyser.

2000-09-28 Thread Pwmccoy
Cameron, If you are looking for a measure of the conducted RF coming off the board the standard AC LISN works for DC power as well. The voltage probe per CISPR 16 will also work and gives a standardized impedance that can be probed from point to point (or if you are looking for a down and

ITU-T H.248

2000-09-28 Thread Dwight Hunnicutt
Anyone know where to obtain a draft copy of the H.248 spec? The ITU-T website says To Be Published and a 06/00 date, but doesn't say when it will really be available... Thanks D -- --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical

Probing power plane with analyser.

2000-09-28 Thread Cameron O'phee
Hello All, I have been asked by one of our design engineers if I can measure the RF signature on the 3v plane on one of our PCB designs. The purpose of this is to compare it to proposed changes for cost reduction, ie removal of bypass caps. I would assume I need some sort of CDN but I have no

Re: Probing power plane with analyser.

2000-09-28 Thread Ralph Cameron
Cameron: That's fairly easy to do as long as you: 1. Take all measurments from the same reference points before and after the changes and 2. Use a DC block on the input to the analyzer ;other wise you may have an expensive input to replace. Most analyzers inputs are not protected for DC.

EN50178 question

2000-09-28 Thread Nick Williams
BSI's on-line and printed catalogues give the following information about the above standard: BS EN 50178:1998 Electronic equipment for use in power installations That's all it says, except a list of cross references as long as both your arms. Before I waste GBP56 of my hard earned cash on

Re: VCCI application

2000-09-28 Thread Jon D. Curtis
There is a pdf version of the form in the guest center on our web site at www.curtis-straus.com -Jon Curtis. Jim Bacher wrote: forwarding for : bgilmar...@cereva.com Reply Separator Subject:VCCI application Author: Gilmartin; Bob

RE: VCCI application Membership required??

2000-09-28 Thread Bandele Adepoju
The way I remember it, test labs are 'associate members'. Only manufacturers can be 'members'. Has this changed? Regards, Bandele Jetstream Communications, Inc. badep...@jetstream.com -Original Message- From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com] Sent:

Re:Customer service issues w/ EN61000-3-2 3-3

2000-09-28 Thread Pwmccoy
Don, In the EU guidance document for the EMC directive that they published in July of 1997 they differentiate between apparatus that is simply repaired, and apparatus that is repaired / refurbished to as new condition. The latter falls under the EMC directive and standards in effect at the

RE: UL1697 ???

2000-09-28 Thread Jody Leber
UL1697 (not in existence yet) will likely be the Standard for the broadband communications equipment detailed in NEC Article 830. If your equipment fits the description someone may be trying to get a head start. Best Regards, Jody Leber Laboratory Manager jle...@ustech-lab.com

Sept. 22, 2000 Conformity-Update Now Available

2000-09-28 Thread Glen Dash
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EN 300 386 in OJ?

2000-09-28 Thread Scott Lemon
Earlier this year, I believe that ETSI EN 300 386 was formally adopted as an EU harmonized standard for telecom network equipment. However, looking on the DG III web page, it looks like this standard has not yet been published in the OJ. I had heard earlier that the anticipated target for

Re: Canadian Hipot Requirements

2000-09-28 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Mike: I'm posting this for a friend who is having a problem with CSA and hipot testing. He has several products which operate on 115/230 VAC. They are industrial control products (don't know the CSA standard number but they fall under UL508 is the US). In one CSA report he is

RE: Canadian Hipot Requirements

2000-09-28 Thread Andrews, Kurt
Mike, Doesn't sound that strange to me. To help answer your question I looked at several UL Follow-Up Service Procedures that we have here in the plant for various types of Information Technology Equipment. This equipment has input voltages of 100-240VAC. UL has a table in the FUS that specifies

Canadian Hipot Requirements

2000-09-28 Thread Mike Morrow
I'm posting this for a friend who is having a problem with CSA and hipot testing. He has several products which operate on 115/230 VAC. They are industrial control products (don't know the CSA standard number but they fall under UL508 is the US). In one CSA report he is required to run a 1500

Safety test your EMC test sample?

2000-09-28 Thread eric . lifsey
Equipment shall not become dangerous or unsafe as a result of the application of the tests defined in this section of IEC 1000-4. That statement appears in (with only slight variations) -2, -3, -4, -5 and -6. Dangerous or unsafe is not defined. There are no links to any safety standards or

Purpose of Electric Strength Testing (Hi-Pot)

2000-09-28 Thread Rich Nute
Hello from San Diego: One of our colleagues has asked me to discuss further the reason behind the hi-pot test. The insulation between the mains and accessible conductive parts (including low-voltage-energized accessible conductive parts) is critical to the scheme of protection from

RE: Canadian Hipot Requirements

2000-09-28 Thread Mike Morrow
The problem is that when two separate products have the same input voltage and have been tested to the same standard, why are there two different hipot levels? Its rather difficult to have procedures etc. that don't line up. Also try and explain this to a worker trying to understand hipot