Re: Dielectric Voltage-Withstand Test

2001-04-24 Thread Rich Nute
Dan Kinney asks about pole-to-pole hi-pot testing. The hi-pot test determines that the product's insulation (both air and solid) is sufficient to withstand the normally-occuring transient over- voltages on a power line. Transient over-voltages are both differential-mode (pole-to-pole) and

Requirements in Hungary: Factory-Floor Test Equipment

2001-04-24 Thread eric . lifsey
Regarding EMC, and safety: Is Hungary strictly on the CE compliance scheme? Or, is there any options for manufacturing sites that build their own production-line test systems/fixtures? (Such as a registration, license or permit for operating such equipment, or other such local options per

Dielectric Voltage-Withstand Test

2001-04-24 Thread Dan Kinney (A)
I have a Dielectric Voltage-Withstand Test question. Paragraph 49.1.1(b) of UL 508 says a product will withstand a potential between terminals of opposite polarity with the contacts closed. By contacts I assume they are referring to On-Off switch contact and relay contacts so the potential will

Re: TS002 (Australian Telecom)

2001-04-24 Thread JPR3
In a message dated 4/24/01, Kevin Harris writes: We just ran across a nifty piece of standards writing. In Australia in of their telecom standards (TS002) there is the following safety statement in it. 5.1.1.2 CE should not cause harm or damage to a Telecommunications Network or Facility

RE: ISN or Current probe method on telecommunication ports?

2001-04-24 Thread Fleury, Bill
Richard, For shielded ports/cables the method used should be the current clamp method as described in C.1.2 of Annex C, EN 55022:1998. The ISN is used for unshielded ports/cables. We had the same problem of failing conducted emissions when we used an ISN. When you put a current clamp on a

Re: Which specs for testing test equipment

2001-04-24 Thread Andrew Carson
Andrew Yes I would, and do, test this type of equipment to EN61326. It is the product specific EMC standard for Electronic Equipment for measurement, control and laboratory use. I believe you can still use the generic standards, but can not see why anyone would no the product specific has

Re: Which specs for testing test equipment

2001-04-24 Thread eric . lifsey
Andrew et al, EN 61326-1:1997 A1:1998 is a harmonized product family standard for EMC of measurement, control, and laboratory equipment, as a companion to safety standard EN 61010-1. It covers both emission and immunity requirements and references either EN 55011, EN 55022, and the EN 61000-X

ESD generators max Contact discharge level

2001-04-24 Thread georgea
This is merely a comment on the distant past regarding ESD. I joined IBM in 1963, well before the present FCC regulations for EMI of ITE and other digital products operating at 10kHz or above. As I recall, the predominant EMC problem in those days was ESD between operators of office equipment

RE: ESD generators max Contact discharge level

2001-04-24 Thread Michael . Sundstrom
Ed, the main difference has to do with the tip. An air discharge tip is rounded, not sharp. While a contact tip is sharp. Each one will allow a spark to jump the gap to the DUT, but in different ways. Michael Sundstrom Product Test Technician EMC Nokia Mobile Phones, Dallas PCC * Email

Which specs for testing test equipment

2001-04-24 Thread andrew . p . price
Hi everybody, As someone who mainly works to EFA, Mil 461, Def Stan 59-41 RTCA/DO-160 Specifications I am looking for information on getting some test equipment to meet the EU directives. The test equipment to be supplied to a customer for ues on their premisis and will be used to test mil

TS002 (Australian Telecom)

2001-04-24 Thread Kevin Harris
Hello Colleagues, We just ran across a nifty piece of standards writing. In Australia in of their telecom standards (TS002) there is the following safety statement in it. 5.1.1.2 CE should not cause harm or damage to a Telecommunications Network or Facility when CE is operated outside the

RE: Which specs for testing test equipment

2001-04-24 Thread Pete Perkins
Andrew, Don't forget the Safety Spec EN 61010 to show conformity to the Low Voltage Directive too... br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety Consultant Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 fone/fax p.perk...@ieee.org

Re: ESD generators max Contact discharge level

2001-04-24 Thread jrbarnes
Glyn, I just ran across this paper, which discusses in greater detail how lower ESD voltages can sometimes create greater upset of electronic equipment than high ESD voltages: [496a] Fujiwara, Osamu, An Analytical Approach to Model Indirect Effect Caused by Electrostatic Discharge, IEICE

Re: ESD generators max Contact discharge level

2001-04-24 Thread jrbarnes
Glyn Garside(TUV) ggarside%us.tuv@interlock.lexmark.com on 04/21/2001 12:57:30 AM Please respond to Glyn Garside(TUV) ggarside%us.tuv@interlock.lexmark.com To: Douglas C. Smith doug%emcesd@interlock.lexmark.com cc: emc-pstc%ieee@interlock.lexmark.com,

RE: ESD generators max Contact discharge level

2001-04-24 Thread Chris Maxwell
My apologies to the group. I see what Ed is driving at. I should have specified Direct Air Discharge as opposed to just Air Discharge. I assumed that everyone would assume the Direct part. It would have saved Ed, and possibly others, some confusion. IEC 1000-4-2 takes great pains to

RE: ESD generators max Contact discharge level

2001-04-24 Thread Price, Ed
Chris: Sorry, my ignorance is showing! I was assuming that an air discharge was just that; i.e., a test electrode to test electrode discharge in air some specific distance from the EUT. From your elaboration, I now see that contact discharge is a deliberate conductive connection before

EMC/TEMPEST Employment

2001-04-24 Thread O'Banion, Joe
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Outdoor unit with no connection to earth

2001-04-24 Thread Zohar Zosmanovich
To all grope members, We would like to design an outdoor unit (radio terminal), metal enclosed, with unit chassis NOT connected to earth. Unit consisting the following: Antenna, RF module, digital and DC Power supply module (powered by 60 Vdc - SELV). The outdoor unit

RE: ITE Laser Markings

2001-04-24 Thread Peter Merguerian
Mike, Other than FDA compliance label required by CFRR1040, IEC 825 gives you the option of not marking the product with the Class I Laser Product but rather put a statement to this effect in the manual. Warning Class 1 laser product. Waarschuwing Klasse-1 laser produkt. Varoitus

ITE Laser Markings

2001-04-24 Thread mike harris
Hi All, Where can I find a list of all of the international markings for a Class 1 laser product? We want to comply at least with the CB all members requirements. Thanks in advance for your help. Mike Harris/Teccom Co. --- This message is from the IEEE

RE: ISN or Current probe method on telecommunication ports?

2001-04-24 Thread Praveen Rao
Hi Richard, I'm sure you are not the only one with doubts on this new standard for Telecom port measurements. I beleive that this standard is already under scrutiny and revisions are underway to clarify some of the issues, especially for current measurement methods. About your question, I think