Re: OK, what's going on?

2003-03-25 Thread lfresea...@aol.com
In a message dated 3/25/2003 8:28:40 PM Central Standard Time, cgrassospri...@earthlink.net writes: Question to Derek: Do the PCs have the infamous assembled from FCC compliant components label?? The clones do, the others do not. Little more news.. 2 laptops, an older Micron, 350 MHz,

Re: PC EMI

2003-03-25 Thread lfresea...@aol.com
In a message dated 3/25/2003 5:10:12 PM Central Standard Time, randall.flind...@emulex.com writes: I am sure you also addressed this but since I have 2 cents to add... A front-end overload condition on the receiver/analyzer, or an overload at the pre-amplifier, can cause errors in

Re: OK, what's going on?

2003-03-25 Thread lfresea...@aol.com
In a message dated 3/25/2003 7:27:32 PM Central Standard Time, ken.ja...@emccompliance.com writes: What bands were the outages in? Sorry Ken... got to stop you here. When I assess, I do so to the standard. The FCC make the rules, we either comply or we don't. No need to second guess the

Is Authorised Representative in EU Required?

2003-03-25 Thread Joe P Martin
Greetings, In order to meet the requirements of European Union Directives, if the manufacturer is not established in the Community, is it required to have an Authorised Representative established in the Community? Is the requirement, or non-requirement, the same for all Directives? I am mostly

RE: IEC60950 (1992) 2nd edition

2003-03-25 Thread boconn...@t-yuden.com
If you are actually refering to EN 60950:1992 + A2, the date in CC paragraph is listed as March 2000, so any certification may no longer be valid. Assuming the standard used for the investigation is still valid, I would still assume that , due to annex C, withstand test levels, and other national

RE: OK, what's going on?

2003-03-25 Thread Grasso, Charles
Hi Derek - Go Reds!! This is not a surprise to me. I have railed at much length a couple of years ago as to the latest FCC changes to the emissions qualification. I am sure you are familiar with it so I won't belabour the point. Fundementally the FCC PC emissions procedure has rendered the EMC

Re: PC EMI

2003-03-25 Thread lfresea...@aol.com
In a message dated 3/25/2003 4:31:09 PM Central Standard Time, drcuthb...@micron.com writes: Derrick, I'm sure you used the antenna factors correctly but I'll put in my 2 cents worth anyway. Were the AF's used correctly? You need the TX AF and the RX AF. If the receive antenna factor was used

RE: OK, what's going on?

2003-03-25 Thread drcuthbert
Derek, most interesting data. I have two questions: What software are you exercising the PC's with and is the spread spectrum enabled? I assume you are using an RBW of 120 kHz and using Quasi-peak detection. In my limited experience I have found that the software that is exercising the PC can

Help wanted with succinct subject description for non-special ists

2003-03-25 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that robert Macy m...@california.com wrote (in web-42369...@california.com) about 'Help wanted with succinct subject description for non-special ists' on Tue, 25 Mar 2003: But in the EC and elsewhere, they thought to add tests ahead of time in order to establish a minimum

Re: Evaluation Unit Safety and EMC?

2003-03-25 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that neve...@attbi.com wrote (in 200303252039.h2PKd l906...@orion2.ieee.org) about 'Evaluation Unit Safety and EMC?' on Tue, 25 Mar 2003: What would be the MINIMUM LEGAL Safety and EMC requirements (i.e. tests, reports, certifications, labeling) in the following two

RE: Help wanted with succinct subject description for non-special ists

2003-03-25 Thread Price, Ed
-Original Message- From: C N [mailto:abx...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:48 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Help wanted with succinct subject description for non-specialists For non-technical people ... in other words KISS. EMC is two things: I

Re: OK, what's going on?

2003-03-25 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that lfresea...@aol.com wrote (in 70.2c4379f4.2bb21 0...@aol.com) about 'OK, what's going on?' on Tue, 25 Mar 2003: I have now spent about 60 man-hours looking for a PC that passes FCC Class B emissions. Something that I should just be able to go to the store and

FW: Noxious and Hazardous Substances in Packaging

2003-03-25 Thread Gary McInturff
I have 4 or five of these blank messages this morning? This one from Richard Woods with the subject line above. ? Gary This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To

Job - Washington State

2003-03-25 Thread Mike Cantwell
Hi all, I have been speaking with a recruiter who currently has a 2 year contract position available in the Washington state area. This is for a medical company that needs to upgrade it's products to the new version of EN 60601. Sory, I don't have anyother information than that. If anyone's

www.creepage.com

2003-03-25 Thread Dave Lorusso
For anyone out there who has used Figure 2F and 2G of IEC 60950 (and variants) to figure out the required insulation, I’ve created a Java applet on www.creepage.com http://www.creepage.com/ (great name huh?) to simplify the task. I’ve also created 2 other applets that calculate clearance in

NEBS Server

2003-03-25 Thread Joe Finlayson
I've been asked by a colleague if I knew of a NEBS Level 3 compliant server platform. The only requirement to which I was made aware is: less than $3000 minimum 800MHz uP speed minimum 512MB Ram If anyone has any leads, please respond

Re: Racing Car EMC

2003-03-25 Thread hansm
If mechanics knew how to deliver pulses properly, they'd be using shielded high voltage coax for both EMI shielding and good waveform!! Everyone would be happy! Hans From: Fred Townsend f...@poasana.com To: Price, Ed ed.pr...@cubic.com Cc: 'Peter Conboy' peter.con...@piresearch.co.uk;

Re: Help wanted with succinct subject description for non-specialists

2003-03-25 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that King, Richard richard.k...@uk.thalesgroup.com wrote (in C02943801230D611919D00508BDF0C246EB5E8@RTWEXCH) about 'Help wanted with succinct subject description for non-specialists' on Mon, 24 Mar 2003: EMC is two things: - The resistance of a piece of equipment to external

Noxious and Hazardous Substances in Packaging

2003-03-25 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
One of the essential requirements of the Packaging and Packaging Waste Directive is that the presence of noxious and other hazardous substances are minimized with regard to their presence in emissions, ash, or leachate. EN 13428 was intended to address this issue, but the Commission

Re: antenna port conducted emissions

2003-03-25 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
Do you need to look at non-fundamental, non-harmonic emissions as well? There will be such emissions as well. Some will be visible with the source in CW mode, but there will be others that appear only during frequency hopping. These latter emissions are harder to find since their frequencies are

Re: California NRTL requirements.

2003-03-25 Thread Ronald R. Wellman
Hello Donald, I assume you are more interested in the City of San Bernadino rather than the county. However, based on your message I cannot tell if you are stating that the City of San Bernadino requires NRTL listing or not. If they do, and they do not have a localized testing service like

RE: Use of the # button on telephone dial

2003-03-25 Thread Kevin Richardson

CCC - is this a current description of IT equipment

2003-03-25 Thread Gary McInturff
Information Technology Equipment (IT) (12 categories) Personal computers (PC), Portable personal computers, Display units connected with computer, Printers connected with computer, Multiplying printer coping machines, Scanners, Switching power supply units for computer and adapters, Chargers,

flicker harmonics currents reduction - Re to EN61000-3-2 class identification from John Woodgate

2003-03-25 Thread Eurtronik Studioerre