Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

Stand-alone safe, if used as intended. Many consumer products may no longer be safe if used or stored outdoors. That too can be addressed with a label, but Marketing folks hate labels that can be seen. Ralph McDiarmid Product Compliance Engineering Solar Business Schneider Electric From:

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

PPS: the Chinese general to whom I referred was Sun Zu – “google” that if you want to find out more. From: john Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 14 November 2016 22:20 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals? PS: that the quoted “know thine

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

PS: that the quoted “know thine enemy” phrase was a paraphrase of the (reputed, but very historical ) statement from the Chinese General from his book/manuscript that “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

TBH, this subject will run and run – until, “some day”, “someone in authority” “some where” will make a “definitive” statement about what is, and is not, “acceptable” for each and every type of equipment, but I don’t see that happening anytime soon! Therefore, unless and until that

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

Hi Jamison: Supposedly, only the safety instructions that are specified in the standard can be arbitrarily subject to “printed” versus “electronic” where the standard does not so specify. Many products today are “stand-alone” safe, where the safety is not dependent on installation

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

Well, at some point hey moved away from stone tablets, so there is hope! Thanks, Jamison From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 12:37 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals? There is also the issue, which I know has

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But can we afford to wait 3000 years? In Britain, we have the Wireless Telegraphy Act, which, among other things, concerns EMC of products in service as opposed to newly manufactured. The antediluvian title is due to the lawyers not yet having had enough time to define new things like wireless

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

The EU has a precedent for certain medical devices intended for use by professional users. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2012:072:0028:0031:en:PDF On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Kortas, Jamison wrote: > Thanks Pete, > > > > In one of

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

Thanks Pete, In one of the standards we use frequently (UL 921), a printed manual is called out specifically: “16.1 Each dishwasher shall be accompanied by printed instructions stated in clearly understandable language, which separately cover dishwasher installation and user operation and

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There is also the issue, which I know has surfaced in at least one safety standards committee, that people simply won't bother to download a manual, get into possibly dangerous areas and then sue, on the basis that only words on paper (parchment, vellum, clay and stone tablets) are recognized

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I haven’t tried in a while but at the time - 10 years ago and got the same mixed results you appear to have gotten. When pressed about the only reason they could give me was concern was that not all people have access to computers etc. to read the manual even if given a disc in the shipping

Re: [PSES] Paper Manuals?

Jamison, et al, It’s less the responsibility of the standards writing organization to dictate the manual paper or electronic rather to indicate clearly what information is required to be provided to the user to ensure that the product can safely be installed and operated by

[PSES] Paper Manuals?

Good Morning, Has anyone had any success in getting standards writers and/or evaluation organizations to accept an electronic version of a manual as an equivalent alternative to a paper version even when the standard refers to a paper manual? I am getting mixed signals from various

Re: [PSES] EU EMC Harmonized Standards (2014/30/EU) for Audio Power Amplifiers

Grace If it is a professional amplifier then EN55103-2 would apply. If it’s a domestic product then EN55020 Rgds From: Grace Lin [mailto:graceli...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 November 2016 21:04 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EU EMC Harmonized Standards (2014/30/EU)

Re: [PSES] EU EMC Harmonized Standards (2014/30/EU) for Audio Power Amplifiers

Hasn’t 55103-1:2009 been withdrawn and replaced by 55032:2012. I believe professional audio products shipped after 2 march 2017 must use 55032 to declare compliance with the EU EMC directive. Ian McBurney Design & Compliance Engineer. Allen & Heath Ltd. Kernick Industrial Estate, Penryn,

Re: [PSES] EU EMC Harmonized Standards (2014/30/EU) for Audio Power Amplifiers

Yes, that is so. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: McBurney, Ian [mailto:ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016