Re: [PSES] Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

Rich, et al, I've had the opposite experience. On a particular occasion, a field sales person was on the site of a notably abrasive customer. Initially, that customer was a little cagey saying "Can you see the difference, and what's wrong with yours?" Eventually, after playing the game for a

Re: [PSES] Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

My apologies to everyone - I did not intend to drift into a political discussion! My question was meant to be focused on the product safety / regulatory concerns that arose after Brexit (that is, ones that did not previously exist), NOT whether sovereignty is good or bad in any other way. >From

Re: [PSES] Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

Folks I also totally agree! – I did say that my main input nowadays on the general subject was mainstream media, BUT that’s not to say that I agree with what I see/hear on it , nor is it my ONLY input, as I’m an argumentative sceptic on most subjects and generally tend to disagree with

Re: [PSES] Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

Totally agree!! On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 11:14 AM Lfresearch < 00734758d943-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > * This message originated outside of DISH and was sent by: > 00734758d943-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org > <00734758d943-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> * >

Re: [PSES] Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

The original question related to the UK and EU certification regimes , but it seems to have “drifted” to the regimes across the Pond ! That being the case, one might have “reminded” the marketing manager (and others of like mind) of the US legal framework and the effect of NOT having the

Re: [PSES] Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

Not the same analogy. Sorry. > On Nov 7, 2022, at 1:39 PM, Richard Nute wrote: > > > “It’s a fact the CE mark adds way more cost than the return on investment of > performance improvement.” > > Reminds me of a marketing manager saying to me that safety (and, I assume, > safety

Re: [PSES] Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

“It’s a fact the CE mark adds way more cost than the return on investment of performance improvement.” Reminds me of a marketing manager saying to me that safety (and, I assume, safety certification and EMC) do not generate sales. Rich -

Re: [PSES] Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

Easy John, but first address my key issue with the EU: surrender of sovereignty. Period. Second, EU is not the only trading market, something missed by members of the community. It’s a fact the CE mark adds way more cost than the return on investment of performance improvement. Not having to

Re: [PSES] Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

Hello Lfresearch - Would you please explain to me how you reconcile "removal of unnecessary trade barriers" and "encouraging for England [*note: actually UK*] to exit from the EU"? Those views seem to be mutually incompatible, since Brexit has raised new non-tariff trade barriers (additional

Re: [PSES] Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

I think most people have learned to not listen to MSM, but rely on individuals in groups like this to further knowledge. It’s highly beneficial to have working members, most without a dog in the fight, in multiple economic zones. That said, and to counterpoint a different position, I was

Re: [PSES] Magnetic fields, human exposure standards, and pacemakers

Hi Charles, Yes, that would be my take. They know a magnet is used to perform some tasks and they can’t be expected to investigate every fitness tracker or earbud magnet so a blanket CYA is appropriate. If you think about the number of gadgets that have magnets in them it is really up to

Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

Thanks John, As you can imagine mainstream media tends to give us a filtered view, with various unspoken motivations. This is the very reason I do not rely upon a single source. And of course, guidance provided on https://www.gov.uk should always be viewed in its official capacity. I

[PSES] Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

Greetings all, My apologies for sending the message again. I shortened the mail. As a follow-up to John Allen’s email below – Has the UK submitted and/or passed any legislation for the UKCA labelling easement until December 31, 2025? Otherwise, the UKCA labelling starts on December

Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

Doug & co I can only speak for myself and what I have seen & heard in the mainstream broadcast media (don’t do Twitter, FB etc!). The majority viewpoint seems to be that it is far too late to do anything in the short-medium term about re-joining the EU, even if there was another

Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

I've been watching the latest UK news with interest. From my perspective in the US news media, it seems with the financial, energy, and PM woes, there is a small movement discussing how BREXIT may have been a mistake. Possibly John Allen can elaborate about how the locals feel about this, Is

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] UKCA marking replaces the CE on 01/01/2023

Hi Amund, This https://www.legislation.gov.uk/search is a good source and offer consolidated legislation. The documents are a bit of a mess of amendments because they took the base SIs that implemented CE and then did spot amendments to realize them as UKCA/UKNI documents. Most have sections

Re: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

Greetings all, As a follow-up to John Allen’s email below – Has the UK submitted and/or passed any legislation for the UKCA labelling easement until December 31, 2025? Otherwise, the UKCA labelling starts on December 31, 2022. I went to the www.gov.uk website and

Re: [PSES] Magnetic fields, human exposure standards, and pacemakers

Hello Dan, Dont you think that (irrespective of the warning ) the magnet on the DC cord is *much* weaker than a magnet used to penetrate through the thickness of the human body and then trigger the reed switches? My first thought is that the warning is there as a CYA? Perhaps? On Sun, Nov 6,

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] UKCA marking replaces the CE on 01/01/2023

Hi Amund, The legislation used instead of the CE marking directives is almost identical to the EU Directives (pre-brexit we ‘nationalised’ EU directives like the EMC Directive), but with some post-brexit wording changes e.g. Notified Body --> Approved Body Harmonised Standards -->