Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

Of course, I think we all understand, or at least I hope so, that artificial intelligence cannot replace real humans in the world of product safety engineering. My previous email was intended to jokingly point out its shortcomings. And I had thought this would be obvious. As for the future of

Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

The fundamental problem with ChatGPT’s architecture is that it axiomatically CANNOT “know” what any words mean. Without there being a conscious observer to actually associate words with sensory experiences, it might as well be gibberish for all the algorithm cares. It doesn’t “know” anything.

Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

ChatGPT is not “artificial intelligence”. It’s a “word calculator” IMO and I have a strong CS background. From: Vincent Lee <08e6c8d35910-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 8:45 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision

Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

I don't think that the original suggestion was serious. But a chatbot trained only on standards from one SMB could probably do quite a good job, apart from assigning numbers to specifications. == Best wishes

[PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

Hi all, ChatGPT is NOT specifically designed for product safety purposes.It can only give very general results, then it is the job of product safety professionals to add the missing details. In my work, I don't use ChatGPT, since it is not a tool designed for product safety which is a highly

Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

Hi David, I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but you could check out ISO/IEC 23894 . On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 12:15 PM Douglas Powell wrote: > Aside from all the news articles about problems with ChatGPT, I've tried a > few things myself.

Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

Aside from all the news articles about problems with ChatGPT, I've tried a few things myself. For example, "*write a complete test protocol for IEC 62368-1 for a desktop audio streaming amplifier weighing less than 7 kg.*" Of course, gave me a fairtly detailed but generally incomplete responses

Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

Friday’s attempt at humor… So how about using the text generator ChatGPT to write the standard draft? Chuck in Berkeley From: Vincent Lee <08e6c8d35910-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2023 7:05 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or

Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

Huff, No national nor international is available yet. AI is more closely related to computer science than product safety.And who knows AI may experience another winter, since there were AI winter in 1980s - 1990s. Regards, Vincent On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 10:37:35 PM GMT+8, David Huff

Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

Hi David, At the moment, only one machinery related standard even opens the door for AI in functional safety systems: ISO 13849-1:2023. That standard only says that AI “can be used,” but immediately goes on to say that no information on how to do that or how to validate the results are given

Re: [PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

Hi David: If you are looking for product safety, I would say that product safety should be independent of AI, or, indeed, of any software. However, some new power distribution schemes involve "handshaking" (which is software controlled) before power can be delivered. So, before power

[PSES] Looking for AI or machine vision related ISO standards for safety

All, I am working to guide a design that uses Artificial Intelligence and machine vision thru a certification type process (CE Mark) and I am looking for ISO or IEC standards or similar related guidance. My theory is that this is such new territory very little guidance exists yet. Are there