Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-31 Thread dward
: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:43 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe I think Nick was being diplomatic - they can do no such thing

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-31 Thread dward
is made that the e-mail or attachments(s) are free from computer virus or other defect. Thank you. From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:16 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-31 Thread dward
: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe It’s a valid concern Tony. I imagine that ADCO in Europe are probably (hopefully) looking closely at any Notified Body who would issue a certificate for a Directive if they are not authorised

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-31 Thread dward
: Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:26 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe It’s a valid concern Tony. I imagine that ADCO in Europe are probably (hopefully

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Michael Derby
a practical point of view, it is also impossible. Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: 29 October 2014 15:00 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Anthony Thomson
micha...@acbcert.com To:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject:Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe Just to add to the conversation, I will throw in a little practicality. There are two primary compliance routes for manufacturers

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Michael Derby
of them don’t seem to know how to test. Michael. Michael Derby Senior Regulatory Engineer Director ACB Europe From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: 30 October 2014 09:16 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Hooper, Nick
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe But the thread started with Nick Hooper saying that Notified Body's were already, and have issued opinions against the RED. This is where my interest lies

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread John Woodgate
In message trinity-c7f8980a-c01d-4abe-893f-a806ac973fc9-1414660564674@3capp-mailcom -lxa01, dated Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Anthony Thomson ton...@europe.com writes: But the thread started with Nick Hooper saying that Notified Body's were already, and have issued opinions against the RED. This is

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread John Woodgate
In message 2655b21dc209421abdc4eeb95de1a...@bn1pr04mb309.namprd04.prod.outlook.com , dated Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Hooper, Nick nick.hoo...@ul.com writes: So a RTTE NB has no appointment (NANDO database listing) to issue a NB EU type examination Certificate for the RED, they are, at best,

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Michael Derby
Director ACB Europe -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 30 October 2014 11:26 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe In message

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Charlie Blackham
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe In message 2655b21dc209421abdc4eeb95de1a...@bn1pr04mb309.namprd04.prod.outlook.com , dated Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Hooper, Nick nick.hoo...@ul.com writes: So a RTTE NB has

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Bill Stumpf
Systems, Inc. 166 South Carter Street Genoa City WI 53128 -Original Message- From: Michael Derby [mailto:micha...@acbcert.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:41 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread rpickard
reply. Best regards,Ron PickardSent from my smartphone -- Original message--From: John WoodgateDate: Thu, Oct 30, 2014 4:40 AMTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG;Subject:Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into EuropeIn message , dated Thu

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread Michael Derby
October 2014 19:25 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe That raises a question for hopefully not only me. Is, or will, ETSI be revising it's RTTE referenced standards? And if so, does

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread John Woodgate
In message 000f424e.68967bf92ace4...@rpqconsulting.com, dated Thu, 30 Oct 2014, rpick...@rpqconsulting.com rpick...@rpqconsulting.com writes: Is, or will, ETSI be revising it's RTTE referenced standards? And if so, does anyone have any information as to when that will be completed? Hopefully

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-30 Thread John Woodgate
In message 17fe01cff478$206e8300$614b8900$@acbcert.com, dated Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Michael Derby micha...@acbcert.com writes: As you say, they do have a timeline goal to work towards! A goal, yes, but scoring it is another matter entirely. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See

[PSES] SV: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread Amund Westin
RED applies from when the first EU/EEA member state has implemented the directive into national law? #Amund Fra: Hooper, Nick [mailto:nick.hoo...@ul.com] Sendt: 28. oktober 2014 12:04 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread Hooper, Nick
-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe Hello everyone. I have been in discussion with the EU Commission and ADCO chairman as there seems to be an amount of misunderstanding on when you can declare compliance

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread Anthony Thomson
, Nick; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: SV: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe RED applies from when the first EU/EEA member state has implemented the directive into national law? #Amund Fra: Hooper, Nick [mailto:nick.hoo

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread Charlie Blackham
2014 12:34 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe All, I'm completely confused by this situation and some clarity really would be appreciated. Where in the directive does it say you that can't

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread Crane, Lauren
be allowed in commerce until 13Jun2017. Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 7:34 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread Anthony Thomson
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject:RE: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe Tony Article 48 says that the existing legislation (RTTE or EMC+LVD) may be used for equipment within scope of RED until 13 June 2017, provided it was on the market before 16 June

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread John Woodgate
In message trinity-0b223d46-8d35-4e7c-b9ef-c0e83470a3fb-1414586057530@3capp-mailcom -lxa15, dated Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Anthony Thomson ton...@europe.com writes: I'm completely confused by this situation and some clarity really would be appreciated. Where in the directive does it say you that

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread John Woodgate
In message trinity-8c6816f3-df1d-4c5f-b2c0-41691b856a66-1414594781031@3capp-mailcom -lxa05, dated Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Anthony Thomson ton...@europe.com writes: So why can't you claim compliance to the RED (assuming you do)? To coin a phrase... there's no law against it. Or is there False

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread Charlie Blackham
Subject: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe Hi Charlie, Thanks for your assistance, but I still can't see anything preventing one claiming compliance to the RED. It's an EU directive which does appear to be currently 'in force

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
: woensdag 29 oktober 2014 21:01 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe Tony Some definitive statement regarding implementation of Directives” is at http://ec.europa.eu/eu_law/directives

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread John Woodgate
In message dbd259dff17c47778ee24dfe2bef5...@thhste15d1be4.hs20.net, dated Wed, 29 Oct 2014, Charlie Blackham char...@sulisconsultants.com writes: I don’t have a definitive reference for the “minimum one member state” comment, but it was in a new EMC Directive presentation given by UK

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-29 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA48920AAB7@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Wed, 29 Oct 2014, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: The cause of this confusion is that we are used to declare conformity with a directive, where IMHO one should declare

[PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive (RED) - please read if you sell wireless devices into Europe

2014-10-28 Thread Hooper, Nick
Hello everyone. I have been in discussion with the EU Commission and ADCO chairman as there seems to be an amount of misunderstanding on when you can declare compliance to the RED. I explained to Lucio that we have seen a few cases of DoC and NB opinions to the new RED, and therefore had a

[PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive

2014-05-23 Thread Brian Jones
Everyone The Radio Equipment Directive 2014/53/EU was published in the Official Journal of the European Union yesterday. It will replace the RTTED 1999/5/EC on 13 June 2016 after a roughly two year transition period. The link to the various language versions may be found here (beware word wrap

Re: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive

2014-05-23 Thread Crane, Lauren
Thanks very much, Brian. Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -Original Message- From: Brian Jones [mailto:e...@brianjones.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 3:37 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] New Radio Equipment Directive Everyone The Radio Equipment Directive 2014