Re: [Emc-users] VFD's and Modbus

2011-03-09 Thread Mark Wendt
On 03/08/2011 01:28 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 05:56 -0500, Mark Wendt wrote: ... snip see things in a certain order or configuration. All the rows of LED lights/radio buttons after row 100 have the ON radio button on top of the OFF radio button, which is typically how we

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 March 2011 02:54, Clint Washburn cl...@clintandheidi.com wrote: What would be the best way to get the voltage up to 400v DC? You can use a voltage doubler. I have a 700VDC PSU I made which I was going to make an Arduino-controlled VFD out of. But then I got scared, and bought one instead.

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread Steve Stallings
I would recommend against putting 240 VAC into a transformer winding originally designed for 120 VAC. While it would seem that a transformer is a simple ratio device, this assumption falls apart if the iron core cannot support the resulting magnetic flux density. Too little iron and it will

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread RogerN
For what it's worth, I have a lathe with a 7.5HP motor and used a 10HP Hitachi VFD like this: http://www.driveswarehouse.com/Drives/AC+Drives/Variable+Torque+VFD/X200-075LFU.html?osCsid=04e47b5d74f9275e98232b165be36c89 The Hitachi website gives directions on using the larger drives with single

[Emc-users] [OT] power factor and VFDs (was Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question)

2011-03-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 3/9/2011 7:23 AM, RogerN wrote: For what it's worth, I have a lathe with a 7.5HP motor and used a 10HP Hitachi VFD like this: ... One time I let the lathe just idle, not cutting anything, the VFD showed 13A 3 phase to the motor, the input to the drive was ~5A single phase, the VFD

[Emc-users] Help with PWM spindle control

2011-03-09 Thread Tony Zampini
Hi all, I'm attempting to set up EMC2 to generate a PWM signal for spindle speed control. I put a DVM on the PWM parallel port pin in hopes to see an average voltage of the PWM signal. But all I see is about 90mV, and it never changes. I tried MDI commands like: M03 S100 and M03 S2000 I'm

Re: [Emc-users] Help with PWM spindle control

2011-03-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 March 2011 13:55, Tony Zampini zampi...@cox.net wrote: I'm attempting to set up EMC2 to generate a PWM signal for spindle speed control. I put a DVM on the PWM parallel port pin in hopes to see an average voltage of the PWM signal. But all I see is about 90mV, and it never changes. I

[Emc-users] triac pwm control

2011-03-09 Thread Klemen Dovrtel
Hello everybody, Has anybody ever made a PWM triac control hal module/component or assemble one from existing hal modules/components? There should be one input signal for zero cross detector and one output signal to control the triac gate. If not, do you think this can this be easily done

Re: [Emc-users] triac pwm control

2011-03-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 March 2011 15:21, Klemen Dovrtel klemen_dovr...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello everybody, Has anybody ever made a PWM triac control hal module/component or assemble one from existing hal modules/components? There should be one input signal for zero cross detector and one output signal to

Re: [Emc-users] Help with PWM spindle control

2011-03-09 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:14:39 AM Tony Zampini did opine: Hi all, I'm attempting to set up EMC2 to generate a PWM signal for spindle speed control. I put a DVM on the PWM parallel port pin in hopes to see an average voltage of the PWM signal. But all I see is about 90mV, and it

[Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread Ted Hyde
Clint - I have an older Allen Bradley 1336S drive (courtesy of ebay) - the collection of 5hp units I got without operator panels, and then finding a panel, probably ran me about $150. I don't see those drives at that price ($40 each!) on ebay currently. The motor was a 5hp Craigslist find, about

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 06:48 -0500, Steve Stallings wrote: ... snip Using a transformer for voltages lower than rated is generally OK as is running them in reverse. The ratio may prove to be slightly off because the manufacturer may have adjusted the stated ratio to compensate for the losses in

Re: [Emc-users] triac pwm control

2011-03-09 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:26:57 AM Klemen Dovrtel did opine: Hello everybody, Has anybody ever made a PWM triac control hal module/component or assemble one from existing hal modules/components? There should be one input signal for zero cross detector and one output signal to control

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: It might be hard to find a VFD rated higher than a few HP that can run on 240VAC input. http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Overview/Catalog/Drives/GS2_%28115_-z-_230_-z-_460_-z-_575_VAC_V-z-Hz_Control%29 Short URL: http://alturl.com/qhdpo I am running an 11 KW

[Emc-users] Background images in a GladeVCP window

2011-03-09 Thread Michael Haberler
Viesturs requested this so he could display a functional diagram in gladevcp window, with HAL widgets placed at arbitrary positions over the image. This is easy to do - a note is in the HAL Widgets Wiki page (http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?HalWidgets at the very end) example code

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] power factor and VFDs (was Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question)

2011-03-09 Thread Jon Elson
Kent A. Reed wrote: Still, Roger's comment intrigues me. A home-based shop could cause mystifying problems in the household if the power factor gets out of hand. Do VFDs really make this a non-issue? Unless you have REALLY marginal power, such as a 60 A 240 V feed, and central air

Re: [Emc-users] Help with PWM spindle control

2011-03-09 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: It is my finding that the line sequence counts. IOW: S100 M3 or S2500 m3 Always works. You must set the speed at least a line prior to issuing the M3 command. Huh? I have NEVER done this, I ALWAYS code it on the same line, either in my .ngc program or with

[Emc-users] Curious toolholder

2011-03-09 Thread andy pugh
Not such a bad idea... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUAPrkC7Q-Qfeature=feedrec_grec_index -- atp Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men -- Colocation vs. Managed Hosting A question

[Emc-users] thoughts on synergy

2011-03-09 Thread kqt4at5v
I have been tinkering with a V90 I bought in December learning to write gcode and using hand written programs making gadgets Now I would like to try CAD/CAM apps I have no experience with either The only hard fast requirement is it run under Linux Synergy seems a good match Opinions??? Richard

Re: [Emc-users] thoughts on synergy

2011-03-09 Thread dave
Synergy works well for me but since I had no drafting/cad training it came up slow. However, it is very powerful which is one reason for the steep learning curve. The embedded demos are very helpful. There is a 30 day free demo that I would suggest you try. It has taken me a while but now I

Re: [Emc-users] Curious toolholder

2011-03-09 Thread dave
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 18:02 +, andy pugh wrote: Not such a bad idea... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUAPrkC7Q-Qfeature=feedrec_grec_index Not so new. Been in the hobby world for years. Dave -- Colocation

Re: [Emc-users] thoughts on synergy

2011-03-09 Thread Igor Chudov
how much does it cost? On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: Synergy works well for me but since I had no drafting/cad training it came up slow. However, it is very powerful which is one reason for the steep learning curve. The embedded demos are very helpful. There

Re: [Emc-users] thoughts on synergy

2011-03-09 Thread kqt4at5v
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Igor Chudov wrote: how much does it cost? I did not see a price for Synergy, only contact customer support Another interesting CAM app is SheetCAM Synergy works well for me but since I had no drafting/cad training it came up slow. However, it is very powerful which is

Re: [Emc-users] thoughts on synergy

2011-03-09 Thread dave
I just talked to Bob Schuppel at Synergy. $250 will now get you 2D plus 3D wireframe. It does not get you Solids ( aka parasolids with extensions) Wireframe is more difficult to use than Solids but pretty powerful. Bob was telling me about a case in Solidworks that would not machine. In

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread dave
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 08:32 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 06:48 -0500, Steve Stallings wrote: ... snip Using a transformer for voltages lower than rated is generally OK as is running them in reverse. The ratio may prove to be slightly off because the manufacturer may

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread dave
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 11:12 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: It might be hard to find a VFD rated higher than a few HP that can run on 240VAC input. http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Overview/Catalog/Drives/GS2_%28115_-z-_230_-z-_460_-z-_575_VAC_V-z-Hz_Control%29 Short

Re: [Emc-users] triac pwm control

2011-03-09 Thread dave
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 11:45 -0500, gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:26:57 AM Klemen Dovrtel did opine: Hello everybody, Has anybody ever made a PWM triac control hal module/component or assemble one from existing hal modules/components? There should be one input

Re: [Emc-users] triac pwm control

2011-03-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 March 2011 20:05, dave dengv...@charter.net wrote: I have 3  Fanuc servo drives (SCR) just sitting on the shelf. They are available cheap after I take off the contactor. They need ( IIRC ) 90 volts  3ph AC and 18 v dc(?). For DC servos, or Brushless? (Yellow or red cap) The reason I ask

Re: [Emc-users] thoughts on synergy

2011-03-09 Thread kqt4at5v
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, dave wrote: I just talked to Bob Schuppel at Synergy. $250 will now get you 2D plus 3D wireframe. It does not get you Solids ( aka parasolids with extensions) Wireframe is more difficult to use than Solids but pretty powerful. Bob was telling me about a case in Solidworks

Re: [Emc-users] thoughts on synergy

2011-03-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 March 2011 20:21, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: Synergy is capable of reading DXF ASCII data files in a limited way. You can not export DXF files from Synergy. This seems quite restrictive DXF is nasty anyway. Not even AutoCAD can reliably read DXF files created by their own software.

Re: [Emc-users] thoughts on synergy

2011-03-09 Thread dave
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 14:21 -0600, kqt4a...@comcast.net wrote: On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, dave wrote: I just talked to Bob Schuppel at Synergy. $250 will now get you 2D plus 3D wireframe. It does not get you Solids ( aka parasolids with extensions) Wireframe is more difficult to use than

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 11:12 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: It might be hard to find a VFD rated higher than a few HP that can run on 240VAC input. http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Overview/Catalog/Drives/GS2_%28115_-z-_230_-z-_460_-z-_575_VAC_V-z-Hz_Control%29 Short

Re: [Emc-users] thoughts on synergy

2011-03-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 11:16 -0800, dave wrote: Synergy works well for me but since I had no drafting/cad training it came up slow. However, it is very powerful which is one reason for the steep learning curve. The embedded demos are very helpful. There is a 30 day free demo that I would

Re: [Emc-users] [OT] power factor and VFDs (was Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question)

2011-03-09 Thread RogerN
- Original Message - From: Kent A. Reed knbr...@erols.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:31 AM Subject: [Emc-users] [OT] power factor and VFDs (was Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question) On 3/9/2011 7:23 AM,

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread Peter Blodow
Kirk Wallace schrieb: I'm looking forward to see how this story ends. Gentlemen, as I mentioned before, telling from the (for me) amazingly immense response to this topic (which actually has nothing to do with emc2), I see a tremendous need for decent power supply in the US, probably

Re: [Emc-users] Curious Toolholder

2011-03-09 Thread Dennis J. Murray
I've had one of the Diamond toolholder for years and I love it!! It also comes with an adapter to hold the toolbit at the proper angle when resharpening, making such a task a snap. The ONLY time I don't use it is when the particular job calls for a carbide bit, otherwise, the Diamond

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 March 2011 22:34, Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de wrote: I mailed to this list about a year ago that here in Germany (and in most of Europe), every house, new built or less than 30 to 40 years old, has a 3 phase electric supply Not in the UK, more's the pity. If you want three phase you

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 08:02:40 PM Jon Elson did opine: Kirk Wallace wrote: It might be hard to find a VFD rated higher than a few HP that can run on 240VAC input. http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Overview/Catalog/Drives/GS2_%28115 _-z-_230_-z-_460_-z-_575_VAC_V-z-Hz_Control%29

Re: [Emc-users] thoughts on synergy

2011-03-09 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 08:25:07 PM dave did opine: Synergy works well for me but since I had no drafting/cad training it came up slow. However, it is very powerful which is one reason for the steep learning curve. The embedded demos are very helpful. There is a 30 day free demo that I

Re: [Emc-users] Curious toolholder

2011-03-09 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 08:33:49 PM dave did opine: On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 18:02 +, andy pugh wrote: Not such a bad idea... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUAPrkC7Q-Qfeature=feedrec_grec_index Not so new. Been in the hobby world for years. Dave Now thats cute, where can I

[Emc-users] Can you help me identify and control my spindle motor?

2011-03-09 Thread Alan Kilian
I inherited a Dental Mill and I have it working with EMC2, but I'm having some small problems with the spindle motor. Sometime it doesn't want to start. It turns about 120-degrees over and over but doesn't spin up. Sometimes it spins up fine. I can always get it started by toggling the spindle

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread Jon Elson
Peter Blodow wrote: I think it would be worth wile to build up a powerful lobby in the US to enforce decent power supply for everyone - what a shame for the most powerful and most technically oriented country in the world to discuss about how to get motors and machines running! The

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread Jon Elson
Peter Blodow wrote: VFD's should only be used when varying frequency is desired and to convert single phase to three phase current on a low level base, say below 1 kW, if a three phase supply doesn't seem economical. That's what they are made for. Analyzing costs, a decent three phase power

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 08:02:40 PM Jon Elson did opine: The current draw of a 100 Hp motor on 240 V is about 330 A per line! Yikes, the transistors must be the size of a brick! Jon I am wondering where you got those figures Jon? OK, I was

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread Igor Chudov
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 08:02:40 PM Jon Elson did opine: The current draw of a 100 Hp motor on 240 V is about 330 A per line! Yikes, the transistors must be the size of a brick! I am

Re: [Emc-users] Curious toolholder

2011-03-09 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
I got mine here... http://www.eccentricengineering.com.au/ I use it on a 9x20 I just CNCed. I accidently got the programming wrong turning 150mm diameter mild steel interrupted cut of 2mm depth, and it had no problem. There is a lot of overhang though and causes some movement with my AXA

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 00:09 -0600, Igor Chudov wrote: ... snip Look at this baby: http://goo.gl/QBuc1 100 HP motor by Baldor They say it takes 224 amps at 230v. i This one is cheaper :) http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=10-1977catname=electric but runs 460V. I think Gene

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, March 10, 2011 01:13:26 AM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 08:02:40 PM Jon Elson did opine: The current draw of a 100 Hp motor on 240 V is about 330 A per line! Yikes, the transistors must be the size of a brick! Jon I

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, March 10, 2011 01:49:45 AM Igor Chudov did opine: On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: gene heskett wrote: On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 08:02:40 PM Jon Elson did opine: The current draw of a 100 Hp motor on 240 V is about 330

Re: [Emc-users] Curious toolholder

2011-03-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, March 10, 2011 02:11:29 AM Frank Tkalcevic did opine: I got mine here... http://www.eccentricengineering.com.au/ I use it on a 9x20 I just CNCed. I accidently got the programming wrong turning 150mm diameter mild steel interrupted cut of 2mm depth, and it had no problem.

Re: [Emc-users] Single Phase Lathe spindle motor question

2011-03-09 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, March 10, 2011 02:21:13 AM Kirk Wallace did opine: On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 00:09 -0600, Igor Chudov wrote: ... snip Look at this baby: http://goo.gl/QBuc1 100 HP motor by Baldor They say it takes 224 amps at 230v. i This one is cheaper :)