Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-07 Thread propcoder
Did you read this: On 08/07/2013 07:08 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: Take a look at max_current - it does not exist. There are three parameters current-maxlim, current-minlim, current-scalemax instead. While in man9 we can see description of pin (bit, in) amp-enable Set this pin high to enable

Re: [Emc-users] Planning phase for new machine, need decision support

2013-08-07 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:11:42 -0400, you wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Stephen Dubovsky smdubov...@gmail.com wrote: Something to remember w/ steppers is that they produce no torque at rest. Here's what you have to remember about steppers: Zero torque at zero speed, and zero torque at

Re: [Emc-users] Planning phase for new machine, need decision support

2013-08-07 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/8/6 Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com ... Here is some free motor sizing software that seems to be quite accurate. A number of Servo drive companies use this software and they brand label it.. http://visualsizer.com/ It is entirely free. I have used the Visual Sizer XP for years and it is

[Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Paul Lacatus
Hi everybody, My name is Paul Lacatus and I am quite new on this list. I am using LinuxCNC for a few months on my Proxxon MF70 converted to CNC. Up to this moment I am using an old Pentium 1GHz for this job as standalone computer. . Right not the computer is bigger than the mill and on the

Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 03:55, propcoder marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote: I mean driver parameters and pins and latest hostmot2 manual, where I find 8i20 is http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html#8i20 That's the 2.5.3 documentation. Now I checked command man sserial and found:

Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 10:05, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: find 8i20 is http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html#8i20 That's the 2.5.3 documentation. Docs for Master are here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/ -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 01:14, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: cosine err? I don't think so. The main reason not to think so is that he has measured the error as non-linear (I am awaiting the actual numbers) A cosine error of .158mm in 50 would mean an inclination of 4.5 degrees which seems

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 08:30, Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro wrote: 2. I need a display and keyboard near the Proxxon for setting and control . If I am using BBW can I use a Raspberry Pi for X11 server ? In that case running Axis can be overkill for BBW ( grafic acceleration is in Raspi ) ? I

Re: [Emc-users] Planning phase for new machine, need decision support

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 08:24, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: i did try it out but there's something that I miss. I tried a 10 m/min calculation with a 5 mm pitch screw and it ended up with a needed RPM from motor at 60.69 RPM... I don't know what you did there, unless you are not coupling

Re: [Emc-users] Planning phase for new machine, need decision support

2013-08-07 Thread Sven Wesley
2013/8/7 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com On 7 August 2013 08:24, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: i did try it out but there's something that I miss. I tried a 10 m/min calculation with a 5 mm pitch screw and it ended up with a needed RPM from motor at 60.69 RPM... I don't know

Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-07 Thread propcoder
2013.08.07 12:07, andy pugh rašė: Docs for Master are here:http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/ Yes, but I can't find a word about 8i20 there. -- Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite! It's

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Paul Why dont you just put an Atom pc together at a fraction of the cost for a BB and other hardware to run your Linuxcnc. Or at least at the same cost but with no hassles of any nature. On 2013/08/07 09:30 AM, Paul Lacatus wrote: Hi everybody, My name is Paul Lacatus and I am quite new on

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Paul Lacatus
Your idea is interesting but an Atom board is at a fraction of BB cost that is about 50 Euro ? And what about parallel ports on atom boards ? I will check. Thank you ! PS The BBW is just laying on my table ;) Paul On 07.08.2013 13:59, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Paul Why dont you just put an

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Paul Lacatus
On 07.08.2013 12:35, andy pugh wrote: On 7 August 2013 08:30, Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro wrote: 2. I need a display and keyboard near the Proxxon for setting and control . If I am using BBW can I use a Raspberry Pi for X11 server ? In that case running Axis can be overkill for BBW (

Re: [Emc-users] MESA 8i20 and enable signal

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 11:22, propcoder marius.alks...@gmail.com wrote: Docs for Master are here:http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/ Yes, but I can't find a word about 8i20 there. For full details of the smart-serial devices see man sserial.

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 12:44, Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro wrote: As far as I understood from what I found on the net the BBB grafic is not quite performant There are more graphically lightweight alternatives to Axis available. For example:

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/8/7 Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro Your idea is interesting but an Atom board is at a fraction of BB cost that is about 50 Euro ? And what about parallel ports on atom boards ? I will check. Thank you ! PS The BBW is just laying on my table ;) Beaglebone costs around 50 eur (at

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Paul Lacatus
On 07.08.2013 15:03, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2013/8/7 Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro Your idea is interesting but an Atom board is at a fraction of BB cost that is about 50 Euro ? And what about parallel ports on atom boards ? I will check. Thank you ! PS The BBW is just laying on my table

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2013 13:26, Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro wrote: . That why I proposed Raspi for an X11 server. I think I forgot to say: Your proposed combination ought to work well. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Paul Lacatus
On 07.08.2013 15:35, andy pugh wrote: Your proposed combination ought to work well My problem is that I need more info about LinuxCNC on BB(W/B) that I hope to find here on the mailing list . This other questions still remains: 1. Is this card ( BBW 720MHz 256 MB ) strong enough for running

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/8/7 Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro 1. Is this card ( BBW 720MHz 256 MB ) strong enough for running LinuxCNC headless ? Since you already have the Beagle, I would say that there is only one way to find this out for sure :)) 3. If I have already the stepper driver board controlled

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 8/7/2013 8:26 AM, Paul Lacatus wrote: On 07.08.2013 15:03, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2013/8/7 Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro Your idea is interesting but an Atom board is at a fraction of BB cost that is about 50 Euro ? And what about parallel ports on atom boards ? I will check. Thank you

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Eric Keller
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro wrote: I have read something about the implementation of LinuxCNC on BeagleBone Black. I have available a BeagleBone white ( 720 MHz 256 MB ram) . My questions now : 1. Is this card strong enough for running LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Paul Lacatus
On 07.08.2013 16:22, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2013/8/7 Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro 1. Is this card ( BBW 720MHz 256 MB ) strong enough for running LinuxCNC headless ? Since you already have the Beagle, I would say that there is only one way to find this out for sure :)) You are right . I

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Paul Lacatus
On 07.08.2013 16:28, Kent A. Reed wrote: On 8/7/2013 8:26 AM, Paul Lacatus wrote: On 07.08.2013 15:03, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2013/8/7 Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro Your idea is interesting but an Atom board is at a fraction of BB cost that is about 50 Euro ? And what about parallel ports

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Troy Jacobson
Hi, If you haven't already, you should check out the blog at http://bb-lcnc.blogspot.com for images and status on running LinuxCNC on Beaglebones. I know that Charles, who writes the blog, and I are both running BBBs with HDMI enabled. The hdmi issues with the Black have to do with the fact

Re: [Emc-users] Planning phase for new machine, need decision support

2013-08-07 Thread Dave
On 8/7/2013 3:24 AM, Sven Wesley wrote: 2013/8/6 Davee...@dc9.tzo.com ... Here is some free motor sizing software that seems to be quite accurate. A number of Servo drive companies use this software and they brand label it.. http://visualsizer.com/ It is entirely free. I have

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread W. Martinjak
Hi, On 2013-08-07 13:44, Paul Lacatus wrote: On 07.08.2013 12:35, andy pugh wrote: On 7 August 2013 08:30, Paul Lacatus p...@paul-lacatus.ro wrote: The problem with RPI is that the real time kernel modules are not implemented and the access to GPIO in not fast enough for Linux CNC . This

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread GP Orcullo
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Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 8/7/2013 8:01 AM, Paul Lacatus wrote: On 07.08.2013 15:35, andy pugh wrote: Your proposed combination ought to work well My problem is that I need more info about LinuxCNC on BB(W/B) that I hope to find here on the mailing list . This other questions still remains: 1. Is this card

Re: [Emc-users] Planning phase for new machine, need decision support

2013-08-07 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Don Stanley dstanley1...@gmail.com wrote: Most stepper controllers have idle torque. Some will have full torque at idle (stopped). Most modern stepper controllers will have a selectable idle torque and some will wait a few seconds before switching from run

Re: [Emc-users] Planning phase for new machine, need decision support

2013-08-07 Thread Dave
On 8/7/2013 12:23 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:16 AM, Don Stanleydstanley1...@gmail.com wrote: Most stepper controllers have idle torque. Some will have full torque at idle (stopped). Most modern stepper controllers will have a selectable idle torque and some

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Andy Pugh
On 7 Aug 2013, at 16:21, GP Orcullo kinsama...@ymail.com wrote: My MF70 is controlled by RPi running LCNC. Is that using the Mungkie image? I was not getting a continuous step stream with that. (Sorry to derail the thread, but I have an RPi to parport breakout board designed (and 20

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread Dave
What level of graphics resolution do you get on the screen with that Cedarville Chipset? Dave On 8/7/2013 5:11 PM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: I use the D2500HN a lot. It has a on board LPT and one PCI slot. I also made a small housing for it that fits inside the lid of my control box. On

[Emc-users] Looking for error in doing dbl-sided pcb's.

2013-08-07 Thread Gene Heskett
Hi all; I have a very small error, perhaps .010 in the top vs bottom hole pattern placements. Unless someone can convince me that pcb2gcode has a built in error in its Y calc's for the bottom of the board, the error is mine, darnit. Background: The eagle .brd file I was sent is arranged

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill, Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread David Bagby
On 8/7/2013 12:58 PM, dave wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 11:26 -0700, David Bagby wrote: big snip Dave: Thanks for the nice synopsis. With all the neat stuff going on is is difficult to keep up. IIRC Kent posted some info on running with a X server on another machine and something to the

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-07 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 08/07/2013 04:14 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 7 August 2013 01:14, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: cosine err? I don't think so. The main reason not to think so is that he has measured the error as non-linear (I am awaiting the actual numbers) A cosine error of .158mm in 50 would

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-07 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 08/06/2013 10:44 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: On Tue, 8/6/13, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote: cosine err? the motion of the axis must be colinear with the motion of the scale theres a few pages supplied wiht all Heidenhain scales describing the mounting techniques and

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-07 Thread Andy Pugh
On 7 Aug 2013, at 23:49, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote non-linear?, ok i read it repeated to same value from origin, but was consistantly off at some extreme. np. discount bad mounting It seems that the sine/cosine signals from the scales do not actually repeat every 10um.

[Emc-users] Raspberry Pi was Re: Linuxcnc on Beaglebone for a small mill Proxxon MF70

2013-08-07 Thread GP Orcullo
On 7 Aug 2013, at 18:56, Andy Pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: My MF70 is controlled by RPi running LCNC. Is that using the Mungkie image?  I was not getting a continuous step stream with that.  (Sorry to derail the thread, but I have an RPi to parport breakout board designed (and 20 boards,

Re: [Emc-users] A puzzler

2013-08-07 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 08/07/2013 06:34 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 7 Aug 2013, at 23:49, TJoseph Powderly tjt...@gmail.com wrote non-linear?, ok i read it repeated to same value from origin, but was consistantly off at some extreme. np. discount bad mounting It seems that the sine/cosine signals from the scales