Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Ken Strauss
You could always start each job with a sequence of G10 L1 P3 to clean up the tool table. > -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 8:14 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6 > > On 17

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread andy pugh
On 17 April 2016 at 01:06, Ken Strauss wrote: > Just setup a dummy tool > table with all offsets set to a constant. It might start constant, but it will be filled up by random numbers as people touch-off their tools and their work. This doesn't matter unless the

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Ken Strauss
Then as Andy mentioned I think that you're stuck with forcing everyone to use only one tool per file since I don't believe tht LinuxCNC allows jogging or adjusting offsets during a tool change. Just setup a dummy tool table with all offsets set to a constant. > -Original Message- > From:

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Danny Miller
So I will not have a "tool table". That's a nonstarter. I don't provide bits, people will use whatever they like (a very large range!) and the CAM stage is their business, not a machine issue. I wouldn't require them to mod out the tooltable file to match their bits, nor would I even allow

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 16 April 2016 16:30:11 Danny Miller wrote: > What does this do, just skip toolchanges and state it's changed? > But only if it knows, from the previous run, that the requested tool is in the spindle. > Problem being, if you have a file which changes tools, there will be > no

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Danny Miller
I am not in charge of CAM, not in any way. I can't control what people use to generate g-code and people will be doing whatever they feel like doing. Many CAM programs start with M6 T1. There's no reason be requiring a tool table, or stopping for manual toolchange, on the first M6 T1. If

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 16 April 2016 14:11:07 Danny Miller wrote: > I am setting up a manual toolchange CNC router system. In the past > I've worked extensively with Mach3. > > Someone just brought up g-code from an automated CAM that started with > "M6 T1", and it barfed on loading because "T1 isn't a

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 April 2016 at 22:59, Greg Bentzinger wrote: > Just because you got away with bad habits when using Mach 3 is no excuse not > to learn proper methods. If this machine uses collets and has no way to achieve a reproducible tool height then I think that making every tool

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Greg Bentzinger
Henry Ford saw no reason to ever make a different car than the Model T. The fact that the Model A came about was mostly done behind his back and when ready presented to him as fate accompli. Just because you got away with bad habits when using Mach 3 is no excuse not to learn proper methods.

Re: [Emc-users] Tool Change M6

2016-04-16 Thread johnson
Danny wrote: We are setting up a manual tool change. We use M61 Q (tool Number) this allows us to manually load a tool in the spindle. Yes we have to have the tool table. Jeff JohnsonSuperior Roll & TurningĀ  Message: 1 Subject: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6 To: "'Enhanced Machine

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread John Murphy
No reason you shouldn't be able to do all the tool changes in a single file. On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Ken Strauss wrote: > You wrote: "Based on what we've done with Mach3, I don't expect we're going > to do toolchanges within a single file. When we generate

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Danny Miller
What does this do, just skip toolchanges and state it's changed? Problem being, if you have a file which changes tools, there will be no opportunity to do so. The machine won't stop, right? The machine will have many users, I should mention that. Quirks on how to set up files, I can

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Tomas Jarmolaitis
> I am setting up a manual toolchange CNC router system. In the past > I've worked extensively with Mach3. > Maybe you just need few lines in hal file: net tool-number <= iocontrol.0.tool-prep-number net tool-change-loopback iocontrol.0.tool-change => iocontrol.0.tool-changed net

Re: [Emc-users] Need a square waveform with variable duty cycle

2016-04-16 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2016-04-16 05:56, Marshland Engineering wrote: > Yes without brushless... ;) > > This actually means with brushes or some other form of power commutation. not really in this link http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?RC_Servo_Test do you know any rc servos with bldcs? > >

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Ken Strauss
You wrote: "Based on what we've done with Mach3, I don't expect we're going to do toolchanges within a single file. When we generate toolpaths with Vectric Aspire for example, if you use multiple tools and it's not an ATC you generate one G-code file per tool." I frequently use Vectric Cut2D for

Re: [Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 April 2016 at 19:11, Danny Miller wrote: > I see there's the "hal_manualtoolchange" component which seems like it > would fix this. Is that the logical answer? Can I ditch the tool table? hal_manualtoolchange is intended to convert the operator into a tool-changing

[Emc-users] Toolchange M6

2016-04-16 Thread Danny Miller
I am setting up a manual toolchange CNC router system. In the past I've worked extensively with Mach3. Someone just brought up g-code from an automated CAM that started with "M6 T1", and it barfed on loading because "T1 isn't a defined tool in the tool table". This was the one and only tool

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper generator --> Found really good solution

2016-04-16 Thread Nicklas Karlsson
It seems I was on correct track. I implemented my own softare with my own hardware only to discover ST have both for sale as evaluation board, I actually got to know about it in a newslettert then I already had implemented so it is possible it is brand new. My software use toggle on compare

Re: [Emc-users] PID explanation a bit different

2016-04-16 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 15.04.16 17:14, Neil wrote: > How about this one? I dare you to make it to the end... > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFBlcS2Sg0k > Laughter did threaten asphyxiation, but it can be done. They're both good; the first for helping the 'copter crowd cotton on, and the second for its

Re: [Emc-users] PID explanation a bit different

2016-04-16 Thread Chris Albertson
That was great. The guy who made this "nailed" that 1960's announcer voice. I've tried and it's really hard. You can get close by adding a "ton" of EQ and compression. It had me fooled for a few seconds. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Neil wrote: > How about this