Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 4/8/19 3:32 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 08.04.19 05:04, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 08 April 2019 02:36:49 Erik Christiansen wrote: ... And that requires html encoding, also high discouraged on most lists. And usually skipped by this reader. Nooo-, that'd be true if it were

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread Chris Albertson
The undocumented chinese parts we buy from eBay are many times sold by a mon and pop eBayer maybe working out of her apartment. The last two time I had to get stuff swapped I learn she was a mom with two small kids who did this so she could be home with the kids. She knew absolutely ZERO about

Re: [Emc-users] G540 timing

2019-04-08 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Chris Morley Hello On 04/09/2019 05:55 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 19:12, TJoseph Powderly wrote: So for users who have used the PNCconf default G540 settings (1000 step 2000 pause 200 dirsetup 200 dirchange ) On the forum we typically suggest that everyone uses 5000 for step

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 08 April 2019 18:15:47 andy pugh wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 21:15, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > How do you work that out? It's open-source hardware. > > > You can even build it yourself. > > > > TANSTAAFL. People need to eat and pay the rent. Flush the toilet, > > etc etc. That says

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 08 April 2019 17:10:26 Chris Albertson wrote: > Gene, > > It is 2019. The money is made today with the service sector.Yes I > could sell widgets and make $50 for each one sold. But it is better > to give away the widgets and then charge for widget services including >

Re: [Emc-users] G540 timing

2019-04-08 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 19:12, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > So for users who have used the PNCconf default G540 settings > (1000 step 2000 pause 200 dirsetup 200 dirchange ) On the forum we typically suggest that everyone uses 5000 for step and dir and 20,000 for dir. (Because by definition you only

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 21:15, Gene Heskett wrote: > > How do you work that out? It's open-source hardware. > > You can even build it yourself. > > TANSTAAFL. People need to eat and pay the rent. Flush the toilet, etc > etc. That says they'll expect to get paid for their time. Just like the

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread Chris Albertson
Gene, It is 2019. The money is made today with the service sector.Yes I could sell widgets and make $50 for each one sold. But it is better to give away the widgets and then charge for widget services including installation, training and consulting. The service pays far more than does

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 08 April 2019 13:52:54 andy pugh wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 15:12, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > About $100 including heatsink, DIN mount and screen-printed case. > > > But that was a not-for-profit batch of 50 that I had made. > > > > Meaning for profit propduction will be closer to

[Emc-users] G540 timing

2019-04-08 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Hi, this may be of use to some users of the Gecko G540, who see lost steps. I made a config using PNCCONF and selected the standard timings for G540 with a 5i20. I used a simple bob to connect the G540 to P4 of the 5i20. Then I made many tests for repeatability ( machine coordinate position

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 15:12, Gene Heskett wrote: > > About $100 including heatsink, DIN mount and screen-printed case. But > > that was a not-for-profit batch of 50 that I had made. > > Meaning for profit propduction will be closer to $200 USD/axis. How do you work that out? It's open-source

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Todd Zuercher
The type of reply posting I find most offensive is inline posting with no whitespace separation from the quoted text. I've received messages on this list where I scrolled up and down for several seconds looking for what and where the actual comment might have been only to give up in disgust and

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Alan Condit
Thank you, > From: Dave Cole > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Posting order > Date: April 8, 2019 at 6:23:20 AM PDT > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > I read through 4 or 5 email lists on almost a daily basis. And I read > through messages which are top posted, bottom posted, and

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Stuart Stevenson
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY I so much appreciate the responses. Thanks Stuart On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 8:45 AM Ken Strauss wrote: > I completely agree; I'm delighted to get *ANY* response to my dumb > questions! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dave Cole [mailto:linuxcncro...@gmail.com] > >

[Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Roland Jollivet
Maybe the main issue is the medium used, if you are saying that? It forces the users to make a choice. Top or bottom posting is not an issue in Whatsapp because it places the reader at the pertinent point, and appends at bottom. So Gmail, for example, should have a per-mailbox option of 'literal'

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 08 April 2019 06:36:58 andy pugh wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 11:21, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Thanks Andy. Looks like a quite capable board set. Is it purchasable > > assembled from somebody? > > No. As I said in the email when I first mentioned it. > > > For how much an axis? > >

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019, rudy du preez wrote: Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2019 08:58:45 +0200 From: rudy du preez Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 at 14:48, Rudy du Preez

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Ken Strauss
I completely agree; I'm delighted to get *ANY* response to my dumb questions! > -Original Message- > From: Dave Cole [mailto:linuxcncro...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 9:23 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Posting order > > > >> What makes

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Dave Cole
What makes that even easier is to enable HTML email and then not only change colour but also font. The "best" answer, of course, is to embed Javascript in an HTML email to present the data according to the preferences registered by each recipient on an SQLite database hosted on an Amazon AWS

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I have read this down to Andy's post. I just smile and go on. I have no gripes either way. My choice to read or ignore has nothing to do with style or format. Content content content. :) Regards Stuart On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 8:14 AM andy pugh wrote: > I agree with some of your points and

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread andy pugh
I agree with some of your points and disagree with others. On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 14:04, Ken Strauss wrote: > > IMHO bottom posting shows utter disdain for the reader who is forced to scroll > through many lines that he has already read. Of course bottom posting is great > for the reader who is

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Ken Strauss
IMHO bottom posting shows utter disdain for the reader who is forced to scroll through many lines that he has already read. Of course bottom posting is great for the reader who is too lazy to closely follow a thread and wants their memory refreshed with each new posting. > -Original

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.04.19 00:37, John Dammeyer wrote: > I doubt anyone writing software would like to have only a black > proportional font in their program text editor. Yet we tolerate it > for emails. John, I've earned a fat living for 30 years writing software, and still do a little for recreation. There,

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 11:21, Gene Heskett wrote: > Thanks Andy. Looks like a quite capable board set. Is it purchasable > assembled from somebody? No. As I said in the email when I first mentioned it. > For how much an axis? About $100 including heatsink, DIN mount and screen-printed case.

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.04.19 05:04, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 08 April 2019 02:36:49 Erik Christiansen wrote: > > Granted, excessive quoting is too common on most lists. A good MUA > > does much to ameliorate the issue, though. In mutt, 'S' skips quoted > > text to the next block of reply in a flash. I also

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 08 April 2019 05:37:59 andy pugh wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 10:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Andy? I may have seen it pass by, but what does the STMBL acronym > > translate to? > > It is explained here, along with everything else: >

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 10:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > Andy? I may have seen it pass by, but what does the STMBL acronym > translate to? It is explained here, along with everything else: https://github.com/rene-dev/stmbl/blob/master/docs/src/Getting%20Started.adoc -- atp "A motorcycle is a

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 08 April 2019 05:01:39 andy pugh wrote: [...] > It is a problem that has been solved by the STMBL servo drive project. [...] Andy? I may have seen it pass by, but what does the STMBL acronym translate to? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 08:39, John Dammeyer wrote: > What makes that even easier is to enable HTML email and then not only change > colour but also font. The "best" answer, of course, is to embed Javascript in an HTML email to present the data according to the preferences registered by each

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 08 April 2019 02:58:45 rudy du preez wrote: > >On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 at 14:48, Rudy du Preez wrote: > >> I am busy converting a Motorman 6-axis robot to Linuxcnc. The > >> original Yaskawa motors and servo drives are used. The motors are > >> all fitted with absolute encoders. The

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 08 April 2019 02:36:49 Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 08.04.19 07:55, Roland Jollivet wrote: > > I've thought about this, and don't agree. If people are following > > this conversation, then it is fresh in their mind, and it's very > > easy to read this post. > > Err, Roland, if "it is

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 08:16, rudy du preez wrote: > Sort of, but not reliably. To read the first part of the serial data > containing the abs encoder positions was a real problem. It is a problem that has been solved by the STMBL servo drive project. If you replaced the servo drives with STMBL

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 08 April 2019 01:55:26 Roland Jollivet wrote: > I've thought about this, and don't agree. If people are following this > conversation, then it is fresh in their mind, and it's very easy to > read this post. It irks me to have to scroll down to find where > someone actually posted. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread John Dammeyer
I'll make one more comment on this and then go back to lurking on this subject. When I have a number of email conversions with a client on how to perhaps implement something or where changes are needed we usually reply to the question at the top of the email. We're way too busy to go

Re: [Emc-users] Motorman Robot with absolute Yaskawa

2019-04-08 Thread rudy du preez
>On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 at 14:48, Rudy du Preez wrote: >> I am busy converting a Motorman 6-axis robot to Linuxcnc. The original >> Yaskawa motors and servo drives are used. The motors are all fitted >> with absolute encoders. The encoders have .. > >Hi Rudy >I know this is a while

Re: [Emc-users] Posting order

2019-04-08 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.04.19 07:55, Roland Jollivet wrote: > I've thought about this, and don't agree. If people are following this > conversation, then it is fresh in their mind, and it's very easy to read > this post. Err, Roland, if "it is fresh in their mind", why fullquote my entire post in your reply? Does