Re: [Emc-users] Nice camera/probe integration

2021-03-12 Thread dave engvall
I rather hate to think of the cost ... beautiful stuff ... German made. It is easy to make a probe; good software to extract the real value of the probe, not so easy. Dave On 3/12/21 9:14 AM, Ralph Stirling wrote: This would be an awesome setup for Linuxcnc.

[Emc-users] Rpi4B_7i90

2021-03-09 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, I'm trying to get an Rpi4b -> 7i90 going. Ralph Stirling made an interface board for the pi that allows one to flash the spi. The following is copy of the procedure: On Rpi: $ git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/openocd/code openocd $ cd openocd $ ./bootstrap $ ./configure

Re: [Emc-users] isolcpus?

2021-03-09 Thread dave engvall
The few  times I've had different counts re' direction it has been a broken flex coupling to the encoder. Of course it could be that you are simply running out of frequency response. Not likely but possible. Dave On 3/7/21 12:54 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 07 March 2021 14:07:33 Feral

Re: [Emc-users] Fiber laser power requirements - any experience out there?

2021-03-03 Thread dave engvall
https://www.toolots.com/quality-ezcad-jpt-30w-fiber-laser-engraver-marking-machine-for-metal.html?cid=10310162125=EAIaIQobChMIkY-kjNaU7wIVEz2tBh35iAhYEAQYBCABEgJiv_D_BwE Others seem to use more power; like 80 to 100 w but not necessarily FO. Dave On 3/3/21 9:34 AM, Curtis Dutton wrote: I have

[Emc-users] syntax for naming .bit files

2021-03-02 Thread dave engvall
Hi, I've downloaded the 7i90.zip  and unpacked to get the .bit files. Is there a short tutorial or plain list that interprets the file names and gives me encoders, pwm, etc. As always TIA Dave ___ Emc-users mailing list

[Emc-users] Rpi4 -> 7i90

2021-02-26 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, I finally decided I needed to bite the bullet and see if I could get my Rpi4B-7i90 combo to work. So: mesaflash --device 7i90   -spi  --addr  /dev/spidev0.0 --write /bitfiles/7i90_spi_svst8_8im2.bit unable to set bpw32, fallback to bpw8 unexpected cookie at 0100..0110:

Re: [Emc-users] Accuracy of the resolver.

2021-02-22 Thread dave engvall
On 2/22/21 8:56 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/22/2021 09:55 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 18:17, nkp216 wrote: How to calculate the accuracy of the resolver? In terms of linearity or in terms of resolution? Resolution is hard to quantify, as they are analogue devices, so the

Re: [Emc-users] Accuracy of the resolver.

2021-02-22 Thread dave engvall
On 2/22/21 7:55 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 18:17, nkp216 wrote: How to calculate the accuracy of the resolver? In terms of linearity or in terms of resolution? Resolution is hard to quantify, as they are analogue devices, so the accuracy is dependent on the measurement

Re: [Emc-users] Accuracy of the resolver.

2021-02-22 Thread dave engvall
On 2/21/21 10:15 AM, nkp216 wrote: How to calculate the accuracy of the resolver? 1.Does this calculation make sense? https://forum.linuxcnc.org/27-driver-boards/39629-1988-fadal-4020-conversion-thoughts-mesa-6i24-7i49?start=10#176312 2. And if the gear ratio is made 1:5 ? On 2/21/21

Re: [Emc-users] Sheet metal operations.

2021-02-04 Thread dave engvall
hydraulics anyone? Dave On 2/4/21 12:57 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 08:31, John Dammeyer wrote: I watched a few of the Fellows gear shaper videos. Gave me an idea. I have an AC servo on the knee. I've thought about adding motion to the quill but I do like the option for

Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software

2021-02-03 Thread dave engvall
If you have nothing else to do download the demo for SynergyCAD. Parasoiid based. 2-D, 2.5D, wireframe, solids. lathe, edm. For the lathe you draw in X,Y and it transforms it to Z, X when you CAM. I started from scratch and it took me a long time to get comfortable with it. Exports are dxf, dwg

Re: [Emc-users] EDM from scratch

2021-02-01 Thread dave engvall
EDM of one sort or another comes up every few years. Pete Grundemann(sp?) put one together. His demo was to edm threads in a file. tomp ... now in Thailand has a lot of experience in edm. tjtr33...atgmailcom Someone brought a non-working commercial wire edm to Galesburg and almost had

Re: [Emc-users] Small spring, very simple flat

2021-01-24 Thread dave engvall
Worst case you find a scrap automotive spring. It is probably something like 5160. Torch cut a piece. Anneal, forge, mill, grind, etc to desired shape. Heat until it is not magnetic, quench in oil. Temper back to about Rc 50. Test. The first try may not be good. Adjust as necessary in

Re: [Emc-users] Great display of 28-axis machine control - totally OT

2020-12-30 Thread dave engvall
Boston Dynamics has a good utube staring Spot and Adam Savage of Myth Busters. On 12/30/20 11:22 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: Altas is hydraulic. It has 28 hydraulic actuators and one battery-powered pump. The battery is 3.7 KWH size They say it runs for about an hour. So he is burning

Re: [Emc-users] I wonder...

2020-12-11 Thread dave engvall
On 12/11/20 1:03 AM, andy pugh wrote: https://hackaday.com/2020/12/10/a-xilinx-zynq-linux-fpga-board-for-under-20-the-windfall-of-decommissioned-crypto-mining/ So an ARM core and an FPGA on one board? I wonder if one could put LinuxCNC on the ARM and Hostmot2 on the FPGA? Is the FPGA big

Re: [Emc-users] Tuning a servo

2020-12-09 Thread dave engvall
On 12/9/20 8:21 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 12/08/2020 10:53 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: What does that 22mv mean in folllowing error since I have that set for about half an inch at the moment? It is not milli VOLTS, it is milli-units.  Generally inches or mm, depending on your preference. so 22m

Re: [Emc-users] Analog circuits ebook - from e-magazine "Electronic Design"

2020-11-29 Thread dave engvall
On 11/28/20 10:36 AM, Karl Schmidt wrote: I would second this recommendation.. If you want to get into Electronic design you should read any/everything by Pease, Jim Williams, and Bob Widlar .. The other must have books are: Analog Circuit Design, First Edition : Art, Science and

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-29 Thread dave engvall
On 11/27/20 10:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 18:45, John Figie wrote: I think I am going to attempt to figure out what the parameters of my motor are and make a model to simulate my control loop. For hobby stuff I think LTspice may be good to model and simulate. I am not

Re: [Emc-users] couple Q's on PID's

2020-11-19 Thread dave engvall
On 11/19/20 1:24 PM, Ed wrote: On 11/19/20 1:35 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: Insolation?   Man, I could use some of that right now.  The fall temperatures are downright freezing.   It was down in the mid 60's this morning.  If this continues I will have to figure out if it is possible to

Re: [Emc-users] couple Q's on PID's

2020-11-19 Thread dave engvall
On 11/19/20 6:18 AM, Les Newell wrote: that workshops only come in one size, "too small". :-) I had that problem at my last place. When I moved the priority was a huge barn. The house was just an afterthought :-) Les Right on! You build your shop first and bring your primary power into

Re: [Emc-users] Poor memory, or new feature?

2020-11-19 Thread dave engvall
On 11/18/20 11:45 AM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: Redline Water Wetter or Royal Purple Ice might lower the temps. They're intended for use with plain water in race vehicles so that when there's a coolant leak they don't make the track or drag strip slick. Their effectiveness is

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc board with good epp port

2020-11-16 Thread dave engvall
Thanks Jon. Appreciate the help. Dave On 11/15/20 3:29 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 11/15/2020 04:48 PM, dave engvall wrote: HI, With *B*lack Friday on/coming I need a recommendation for a motherboard that has good latency and a rock solid EPP port. Servo application so that should relieve some

Re: [Emc-users] I amazed me.

2020-11-15 Thread dave engvall
Gene, Isn't it  nice when things 'just work'. I presume you are familiar with pressure gage calibrators. That is a hydraulic cylinder of known area loaded by a known weight. At the low volume of coolant you need that might be a simplistic way to supply a known and constant pressure. It should

[Emc-users] linuxcnc board with good epp port

2020-11-15 Thread dave engvall
HI, With *B*lack Friday on/coming I need a recommendation for a motherboard that has good latency and a rock solid EPP port. Servo application so that should relieve some of the constraints. It needs to work with Jon's upwm  and Peter's 7i34. Naturally it also needs to be currently available.

Re: [Emc-users] back to a bad cable?

2020-11-13 Thread dave engvall
For all the time spent chasing cable problems it might be nice to have a chip on a board that would echo signals and generate error messages. Without good diagnostics one is like the puppy chasing his tail. Dave On 11/13/20 3:32 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 13 November 2020 14:59:41

Re: [Emc-users] anti-freeze recommendation for water cooled spindle motors

2020-11-09 Thread dave engvall
IIRC RV grade antifreeze is propylene glycol and often flavored with a bit of methyl salicylate. Easy to tell if you have it all flushed out. You will be able to taste the oil of wintergreen long after the pink dye is gone. Dave On 11/7/20 6:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 07

Re: [Emc-users] EPP

2020-11-01 Thread dave engvall
Middle of afternoon and I still need coffee. ;-) Let's try 7i43. Tnx. On 11/1/20 12:16 PM, Eric Keller wrote: 7i37 is a daughter card and can't be flashed. On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 3:03 PM dave engvall wrote: On 11/1/20 8:18 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 16:02, dave engvall

Re: [Emc-users] EPP

2020-11-01 Thread dave engvall
On 11/1/20 8:18 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 1 Nov 2020 at 16:02, dave engvall wrote: I have a application for a 7i37/ 7i33. In face a couple of them. First try has been a D525 with a SIIG single pport. Do you really mean 7i37? Or maybe 7i43? First off I have no idea if the SIIG board

[Emc-users] EPP

2020-11-01 Thread dave engvall
Hi, I have a application for a 7i37/ 7i33. In face a couple of them. First try has been a D525 with a SIIG single pport. First off I have no idea if the SIIG board works and indeed no idea of how to test it. With Jon's ppmc there was a comm program that told one right away if the link was

Re: [Emc-users] Tool stamping, 90 degree bending

2020-10-11 Thread dave engvall
Hi Nicklas, A bit off the wall but maybe bend unhardened then flame harden with a closely  following spray quench followed by temper. Speed in bending may have an effect on spring back. This, of course, is much easier to talk about than it is to do. :-) Dave On 10/11/20 9:07 AM, Nicklas SB

Re: [Emc-users] Small project and test email.

2020-09-26 Thread dave engvall
I just checked the forum and it is alive and well. Something is screwed up with the list. Dave On 9/24/20 11:05 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: For me the list has been quiet but checking the forum web page there have been messages up to 23SEP2020. Not sure why I'm suddenly not receiving messages

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control for high speed machines

2020-09-22 Thread dave engvall
and calculates the best speed and path for the machine regards Andrew regards On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 11:35 AM dave engvall wrote: HI Andrew, Just because I have ideas does not imply I can implement them. ;-) However, I believe there is a velocity pin that might be used to slow down in corners

Re: [Emc-users] jerk control for high speed machines

2020-09-21 Thread dave engvall
HI Andrew, Just because I have ideas does not imply I can implement them. ;-) However, I believe there is a velocity pin that might be used to slow down in corners. Since the spindle loads up going thru corners it may be possible to monitor spindle load and back off velocity thru the corner

Re: [Emc-users] CAD for parts to make on a lathe

2020-09-17 Thread dave engvall
Chris, You might try Synergy, does the whole ball of wax. Not too expensive. Takes time to learn. Parasolids based. 2D, 2.5D, 3D, wireframe, solids,  turning and probably something i missed. Unusual feature is extrusion screws. Runs on linux; will run on Windows but you lose a few features.

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Cheap chinese servo motors

2020-09-13 Thread dave engvall
Has anyone scrolled down the iink to check the reducers? I'm not a stepper person but they might make a good start at a 4th axis. :-) Dave On 9/11/20 11:51 PM, andrew beck wrote: Leonardo. I'll pm you my supplier I use us cheaper and I have been testing there quality for 2 years on several

Re: [Emc-users] cnc axis "Touch Off"

2020-09-11 Thread dave engvall
IIRC some controls have a switch to do this.  Also I think you can flip the sign of one axis and get a mirror image but the sense of the cut (climb/conventional) also flips so unless your machine is pretty tight dimensions may also shift. I've always done this the hard way by going back to the

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC legacy or future

2020-09-09 Thread dave engvall
A most impressive list of worker bees. However, the english analogy fails when referring to Andy. I just can't refer to him as Queen bee or Drone. There must be a better word to describe herding programmers. ;-) Great work everyone. Will upgrade as soon as I can get the rpi sorted. Dave On

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Synchronised motion using RS485/CAN bus motors

2020-08-20 Thread dave engvall
On 8/20/20 5:00 PM, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: What blows some people's minds is that the sum of two odd numbers is always an even number, the sum of two even numbers is also always an even number. The only way to get an odd number from adding any two numbers is one number must be

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Synchronised motion using RS485/CAN bus motors

2020-08-19 Thread dave engvall
Ah, John, In the words of way too many math professors, "It is obvious that ." . On 8/19/20 7:12 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: My computer science degree required 4 terms of calculus, 2 terms of linear algebra, 2 terms of differential equations, 4 terms of physics and 2 terms of statistics. I

Re: [Emc-users] p-port problems?

2020-08-11 Thread dave engvall
On 8/10/20 12:45 PM, Jon Elson wrote: On 08/10/2020 01:34 PM, mar...@r-bechtold.de wrote: I switched to an ethernet based mesa karte it is nearly impossible to finde a PCI or PCIe parport card that support Real EPP The 8875 is REALLY old.  But, there are good PCI and PCIe cards that do

[Emc-users] p-port problems?

2020-08-10 Thread dave engvall
Hi, Fussing with a pci pport card; 8875F based connected to a 7i43. With 50 pin connectors to the left led's are  Y R R I  don't seem to get better at this as I age. :-( Any help will be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance. Dave LINUXCNC - 2.7.15 Machine configuration directory is

[Emc-users] smoother mover motion

2020-07-25 Thread dave engvall
Hi, TinyG is supposed to have S curve accel and limited jerk. It might be worth looking at for approach. Should be easy since it is pretty much linuxcnc but embedded. Just a comment following up on an earlier post; maybe a week ago or so. Just poking the bear. :-) Dave

Re: [Emc-users] Calculating table acceleration. Was: Need help with Bostomatic BD18-2 to linuxcnc

2020-07-23 Thread dave engvall
On 7/23/20 7:53 AM, Bari wrote: It's really not a big deal. Engineering and science is full of math operations that you have to jump to all the time. If it is too difficult find someone else that is not a complainer to help you. On 7/23/20 12:34 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: Why on Earth do

Re: [Emc-users] wondering what the status is on S curve jerk control getting added into linuxcnc

2020-07-23 Thread dave engvall
A couple of sources: http://www.mesanet.com/pdf/motion/softdmc.pdf  50 us cycle -:) Some years ago a masters candidate in ME at UBC did her thesis on motion control with jerk limiting and sine wave accel. I used to have a copy of it but cannot find it. IIRC is would be post 2005 and

Re: [Emc-users] fitting chuck to backplate on a BS-1 clone

2020-07-01 Thread dave engvall
Measure from an arbitrary center to perimeter and calculate from three points. Adjust and remeasure. On 7/1/20 9:08 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I had to drill a pin hole and drive this backplate with a dead blow hammer to get it locked to this BS-1 well enough to machine a register

Re: [Emc-users] Health update

2020-06-10 Thread dave engvall
On 6/10/20 12:47 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Gene, Take care and be careful. Can't say much more as you probably won't listen anyway. ;-) Be glad you live in a time when cardiac care is pretty well understood. Else you'd be long gone. Dave On Wednesday 10 June 2020 15:17:19 Chris Albertson

Re: [Emc-users] Face Milling

2020-05-21 Thread dave engvall
Round inserts are nice if you have the power and stiffness to use them. Only in desperation would I use a fly cutter simple because of the unbalanced load. Because of their radius the round inserts will give a nice finish. Have fun. Dave On 5/20/20 9:56 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: I've been

Re: [Emc-users] internal cleaning a BS-1

2020-05-18 Thread dave engvall
Years ago I would have said Lubriplate but today there are lots of Li greases and lubricants in general have improved a lot. Any NLGIG 2 should do. At the speeds it is  going to turn you should not have to worry about over packing the lube. Have fun getting it in place. I use a 3/4 T lever hoist 

[Emc-users] OT Chinese DRO

2020-05-08 Thread dave engvall
HI all, My ancient Acu-rite III  DRO has gone flaky. I ordered one off the following link.

Re: [Emc-users] need a couple boring bar holders, odd size

2020-05-03 Thread dave engvall
HI Gene, Being always caught outside the box but still having to think I made a large t-nut that goes in the cross-slide, then a block of steel large enough to accommodate a couple of 1/2" gr 8 cap screws and a hole centered between the bolts but obviously at 90 degrees with the proper taper

Re: [Emc-users] Machine accuracy

2020-05-03 Thread dave engvall
On 5/3/20 4:32 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: On Sat, 2 May 2020 at 16:29, N wrote: Did not check check then moving but expect a lot less accuracy then at move, Bear in mind that when the tool position matters the tool is often stationary in the important direction. Then it will be more than

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder reset on homing to index

2020-04-26 Thread dave engvall
Not that I know much about this but: It is my understanding that the rotary because it has less quantatization error does a better job on control but unless your machine is very tight a poorer job on position. Early on I tried my machine with a 5 um linear glass scale. It was very difficult to

Re: [Emc-users] Non-circular boring. Linuxcnc style.

2020-04-14 Thread dave engvall
be met? I guess plan the hole in the CNC part drawing? -Original Message- From: dave engvall [mailto:dengv...@charter.net] Sent: April-14-20 11:37 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Non-circular boring. Linuxcnc style. I've never had much luck with plunging

Re: [Emc-users] Non-circular boring. Linuxcnc style.

2020-04-14 Thread dave engvall
IIRC a full dia plunge with a non-center cutting end mill is an experiment in friction welding. ;-) Dave On 4/14/20 11:31 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 19:26, John Dammeyer wrote: And I don't think one should plunge into HRS with a 4 flute mill. Was it a centre-cutting mill?

Re: [Emc-users] Non-circular boring. Linuxcnc style.

2020-04-14 Thread dave engvall
I've never had much luck with plunging end mills full dia. Probably works better with HSS , not so brittle. However, I plunge cut at 40% overlap and 15 - 18 ipm at 2200 with .25 carbide. Get fair life doing that. On the same rather flexible mill using a 1/2" rougher I'm good for .1" radial

Re: [Emc-users] Home use index problem (In step + dir mode)

2020-04-10 Thread dave engvall
On 4/10/20 1:01 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Fri, 10 Apr 2020, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 16:50:15 -0300 From: Leonardo Marsaglia Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"     To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Home use index

[Emc-users] spi connections

2020-03-28 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, I'm working (slowly) on a Rspi4b to 7i90 to 5i33 system. After a few speed bumps ( I ordered the wrong connector) I think I have things worked out. The geometry isn't pretty but should work unless my cognition has drifted off into never-neverland. So 40 pin idc plugs into spi

Re: [Emc-users] Had to share

2020-03-28 Thread dave engvall
You can say what you want about Spam. Once a year is about the right dose for me. However in the late 50 when I was spending summers on a fire lookout Spam was an easy meal. Bearing in mind that by the time you go up all the snow has melted and that was the only refrigeration. During and

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc openlung ventilators

2020-03-24 Thread dave engvall
Implications? Gleaned from a medical  site. "Coronavirus is enveloped, meaning the virus has coating on the outside of it. As it happens, the envelope means that the virus doesn’t survive well outside of the body—they usually can’t last longer than 24 hours outside of the body and usually

Re: [Emc-users] Question about index pulse on high resolution encoder

2020-03-22 Thread dave engvall
just checked the price on ebay. ouch! glad I don't do anything that really need one. On the other hand that $800 only buys about 1.5 glass scales. Dave On 3/22/20 3:20 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 22:01, Gene Heskett wrote: That is an impressive widget. :-) So was the

Re: [Emc-users] Question about index pulse on high resolution encoder

2020-03-22 Thread dave engvall
That is an impressive widget. :-) On 3/22/20 12:08 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 18:27, dave engvall wrote: I bought one of these a few years ago when they were somewhat less expensive. The polarizer helps the beam considerably. I think one can get something on the order

Re: [Emc-users] Question about index pulse on high resolution encoder

2020-03-22 Thread dave engvall
https://www.amazon.com/Laser-Center-Edge-Finder-polarizer/dp/B00WVG4DF4 I bought one of these a few years ago when they were somewhat less expensive. The polarizer helps the beam considerably. I think one can get something on the order of 0.01" repeatability using your eye. A sensor and a pin

[Emc-users] connector ignoramus

2020-03-18 Thread dave engvall
Hi, Or maybe it is web search dumb. Usually I do better but: I have the osh park board for Rpi4b to 7i90 ordered. However I think I can plug a 40 pin (2 x 20) idc directly into the pi and come off the other side of the board with a 26 pin (2x13) directly into the 7i90. No cable to fool with.

Re: [Emc-users] back to my out of whack encoder

2020-02-24 Thread dave engvall
It is unusual for epoxy not to stick. Pocket eh? Take a Q-tip with either lye or muriatic acid and etch. Then wash with water, then degrease with iso-propanol, trichoroethylene, perchlor (dry cleaning solvent),  etc. This assumes the pocket is aluminum which is amphoteric. ... reactive with

Re: [Emc-users] Kinematics, headless CNC

2020-02-22 Thread dave engvall
hi Nicklas: I think you keep the X as linear and do a Cartesian to polar conversion for the Y. This is sometimes done to get a really stiff Y axis. Years ago I saw a utube of a shop doing one with a decently large rotary table; as in 18" or more. Dave On 2/22/20 12:50 AM, Nicklas Karlsson

Re: [Emc-users] Feeds and speeds

2020-02-19 Thread dave engvall
, finishes for wood, etc. Dave On 2/19/20 11:59 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 19 February 2020 14:29:42 dave engvall wrote: Lots of illocut products on web... which one do you recommend? Indeed kerosene works well for threading Al and cutting. Probably less flammable also but being

Re: [Emc-users] Feeds and speeds

2020-02-19 Thread dave engvall
Lots of illocut products on web... which one do you recommend? Indeed kerosene works well for threading Al and cutting. Probably less flammable also but being lazy I didn't check the flashpoints. Dave On 2/19/20 11:05 AM, Marshland Engineering wrote: Ilocut is far superior to WD40. If I

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture --> printer driver postscript <-> g-code

2020-02-19 Thread dave engvall
postscript isn't a bad language for 2D. ... and yes years ago I did exactly that. Dave On 2/19/20 7:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sat, 15 Feb 2020, 19:41 N, wrote: Printers talk postscript while CNC machines talk g-code, well not always but quite often. And just as some folk hand-write

Re: [Emc-users] Feeds and speeds

2020-02-19 Thread dave engvall
Indeed WD-40 seems to work well for Al. I have some Al that is plain touchy. Creates heat very quickly and then I get adhesion. 6061-T6 seems to be OK. Dave On 2/19/20 4:32 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: For aluminum I like WD-40. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:41 AM Marshland Engineering <

Re: [Emc-users] RPI4 is pretty close to a decent machine - now linear scales and servos

2020-02-19 Thread dave engvall
On 2/19/20 4:16 AM, Les Newell wrote: On 18/02/2020 23:54, Marshland Engineering wrote: Just a correction, I have setup a few stepper systems with LinuxCNC and step and direction is no problem. The problems came in when using 2KW servo drives and linear scales on the axis. The subject of

Re: [Emc-users] Feeds and speeds

2020-02-18 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, By hot roll I assume you mean something like A36. Alloy comp not controlled just mechanical. It tends to be low alloy scrap plus 4140. Using a  TiAlN coated 1/4 carbide I can  use 2200 rpm and 11 ipm, doc 0.05, any more and it screams at me. This is basically slotting, on a side cut

Re: [Emc-users] RPI4 is pretty close to a decent machine control

2020-02-18 Thread dave engvall
On 2/17/20 5:18 PM, Ed wrote: On 2/17/20 6:20 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: From: Sam Sokolik [mailto:samco...@gmail.com] Because your examples are not running a full operating system... I don't buy that.  That's like saying.  Look.  The ride is a tad uncomfortable but that's to be expected. 

[Emc-users] just call me grumpy! (7i43)

2020-02-15 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, A quick look at web sources seems to indicate that the EPP on some motherboards simply doesn't  work. In my case I'm having problems with a 7i43 -5i33. Has anyone gotten the 7i43/5i33 to work with a D525 intel board? If so would you please share the magic incantations necessary. A

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-15 Thread dave engvall
partial reply to Gene's comments. https://www.analog.com/media/en/reference-design-documentation/reference-designs/CN0276.pdf On 2/14/20 6:20 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 14 February 2020 16:30:51 Andy Pugh wrote: On 14 Feb 2020, at 20:55, Gene Heskett wrote: The coils are usually

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-14 Thread dave engvall
John, et al: The good thing about linuxcnc is that is can accommodate a wide range of user skill; from those who just want to make  chips to those that want to dig into the internals, to  those that can actually write internals. Ditto on the range of machines. Linuxcnc nee emc was tested on

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-14 Thread dave engvall
a bit overdone for your app but this should give you an idea. page down to fig 16. https://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/group0/6a/82/83/37/61/69/4e/74/DM00497286/files/DM00497286.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00497286.pdf Dave On 2/13/20 11:01 PM,

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-12 Thread dave engvall
  I happen to use some of the quick setting JBweld today. I misspoke, it is not clear, grayish and black for the two parts. It may be just carbon black but who knows. Almost every hardware store has Devcon products, slow setting and fast. At least some are clear. Sorry for the confusion. IIRC

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread dave engvall
Check the max frequency on any encoder you look at. The inexpensive ones max out at 200 K. Frequency is not a problem is you want to throw $$ at it. It is very hard to win; lots of counts at the high end but not many when you are creeping. There just ain't no free lunch. Dave On 2/11/20

Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-12 Thread dave engvall
http://pico-systems.com/osc2.5/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=31=2n4hbnn63oqt9ncdlervb08tv6 On 2/12/20 1:52 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 12 February 2020 01:49:34 andrew beck wrote: the option I just thought of while googling is, can I convert the sin cos format in to a normal

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread dave engvall
I like the idea of iso-propanol. The only thing that would improve the process is vapor degreasing. The trick of a non-filled epoxy as a primer is good. Why didn't I think of that. ;-) The Navy uses acetone for degreasing  before using loc-tite on their nuclear stuff. Degrease, blow dry, add

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-11 Thread dave engvall
If " 'nix" were suddenly removed from the world the internet and a whole bunch of other thing would disappear. Just to rock the boat: mesa (PCW) has a very nice motion controller for an FPGA. 50 us cycle time, etc. "ALL" someone has to do is wrap  interp and all the other non-motion stuff

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread dave engvall
AFIK Araldite is a non-filled epoxy. I've always taken that as the Brit name for plain epoxy.  OTOH JB also make a clear 5 min expoy as do others. I grew up with a  quart of (Shell at the tme) Epon828 in the cupboard. Handy stuff. I once mixed an epoxy using tri-mellitc  (sp??) anhydride  as a

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread dave engvall
Yep! As long as your environment doesn't  have chlorinated solvents you are OK. Even my Ace Hdwe carries it. Dave On 2/11/20 10:34 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: "JB Weld" Epoxy. It is a mixture of two part epoxy and steel powder. Get it at any auto parts store or Home Depot. On Tue, Feb 11,

[Emc-users] rpi4b for servos

2020-02-10 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, I've been following Gene's adventures with the Rpi4B. Gene uses steppers and I use servos so I can't just clone his setup. I need suggestions for a 4 channel analog system; encoders and +- 10 v for servos; no i/o as I handle everything else external to linuxcnc. Ideally the system

Re: [Emc-users] Probing a Profile

2020-02-04 Thread dave engvall
Been so long I don't remember. I was done on the Mazak so it has been a few years. I probably wrote something rather simple. Maybe even so simplistic and manual. ;-) Dave On 2/4/20 9:31 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 16:22, dave engvall wrote: I've done it the hard way

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-04 Thread dave engvall
emc was short and nice. Linuxcnc is certainly more descriptive. Dave On 2/4/20 7:17 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: EMC was purchased in 2016 by Dell. They no longer use the EMC(squared) logo as of 2016. All of the legal effort about the logo was probably done to help in the effort to sell the

Re: [Emc-users] Probing a Profile

2020-02-04 Thread dave engvall
I think it comes down to constructing lines perp to the profile at probed points. CMM's obviously take care of this somehow. I've done it the hard way by drawing circles the diameter of the probe and then doing three pt arcs to fit. Certainly there are better and considerably more elegant

Re: [Emc-users] install problems --> other hardware problem over heat, OT?

2020-02-01 Thread dave engvall
, such was the massive quantity of counterfeits made with the bad electrolyte formula. Apple seemed to have been especially hard hit. On Friday, January 31, 2020, 8:54:51 PM MST, dave engvall wrote: Certainly an idea to check out. Never occurred to me but the I suppose Intel  could be victim

Re: [Emc-users] install problems

2020-01-31 Thread dave engvall
capacitors? Usually the pressure relief cuts on top of the cans split open. On Friday, January 31, 2020, 12:51:07 PM MST, dave engvall wrote: Hi all, A couple of days ago my 525 motherboard crashed. Really crashed! It has been flaky for months but never any clue as to the problem

[Emc-users] install problems

2020-01-31 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, A couple of days ago my 525 motherboard crashed. Really crashed! It has been flaky for months but never any clue as to the problem. This time it refused to boot so I grabbed a new disc and installed stretch ... iso. Looks pretty, comes up nicely. However invoking linuxcnc only

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-01-27 Thread dave engvall
Linuxcnc get used because it works ... at least well enough to get most jobs done. I hope Gene gets something workable out of the Rpi4; that looks promising. My vision of a new system is something very modular. Small boards running a microcontroller with some chance of the chip not

[Emc-users] homing

2020-01-21 Thread dave engvall
Hi all; For once I'm writing to say thanks to the developers for making the homing sequence quite flexible. . As I get older I tend to use the KISS principle more and more. I'm chasing Gene down the path: just 3 years younger and still kicking. Specifically, I use a cheap laser diode  and

Re: [Emc-users] Servo and encoder specs. some help please.

2019-12-08 Thread dave engvall
https://www.renco.com/_Resources/Persistent/8785438f7d83f3d7cb02798c4ec2078feb8bd2a1/1146790-21_Drehgeber_RENCO_en.pdf Don't know why reply to list didn't copy more of the original but hopefully this will help. Dave On 12/7/19 10:37 AM, Greg Bentzinger via Emc-users wrote: Renco 77678-319

Re: [Emc-users] User Interface Addition

2019-12-02 Thread dave engvall
I've been asking about this for years and have been met with resounding silence. I rather like the idea of doing it remotely. Not that most cpu's can't handle it but tends to get one thinking shopwise rather then just a single machine. Thanks for poking the bear. ;-) I have no idea what

Re: [Emc-users] Wedding rings vs R8 or ER42 collets.

2019-11-18 Thread dave engvall
My guess is that cut, squeeze, silver solder, form to round again on the tapered arbor. I lost so much weight after I got married that I had to have my ring resized. Didn't cost too much, even for a starving student. On 11/18/19 2:42 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 03:52, Gene

Re: [Emc-users] ADC - realtime for load cell

2019-09-19 Thread dave engvall
It is not too unusual to use the torsion in a rotating shaft as a load indicator. Sensors at both ends aligned at zero force. The app I saw was using this  on the turbine shaft for a 125 Mw generator. Just a comment. ;-) On 9/18/19 5:30 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: One way to measure force is

Re: [Emc-users] ADC - realtime for load cell

2019-09-18 Thread dave engvall
MAX11905 might do the job. 20 bit. but spendy. probably $50 in singles. QSPI and SPI for interfaces. data rate 1600 ksps. SAR > 16 bit gets really touchy... CMRR, noise, etc. Good luck. On 9/18/19 7:01 AM, Curtis Dutton wrote: Right now my test set up is going to consist of a 6i25, 7i85 and

[Emc-users] Jeff Pfeifer

2019-04-25 Thread dave engvall
Hi all, Does anyone have a current phone number or email for Jeffrey Pfeifer. I tried an old hotmail account but have not gotten an answer. TIA Dave ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Looking fro some input from the community

2019-04-24 Thread dave engvall
Jon, You are making me feel old; just a fact of life. :-) IIRC I had the first PPMC board set out the door. Once one got the connector tied down that beastie was rock solid. The communication diagnostic was a life saver. Easy way to confirm that the communication was working and it

[Emc-users] ER32 spindle

2019-02-21 Thread dave engvall
Does anyone have experience with one of these. They used to have a good spec sheet and a price but that seems to have gone away. I used to be more adventuresome but seem to have lost my ability to squeal like a guinea pig. ;-)  I'm hoping someone has tried one of these. Dave

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