Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation

2020-09-08 Thread Stuart Stevenson
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Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation

2020-09-08 Thread N
> On 09/07/2020 03:24 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > > Is it any advantage in using cutter compensation when programming the > > g-code using CAM? Because since I've started working with CAM for my > > turning programs I like to let the software do all the compensation. By the > > way, I'm talking

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation

2020-09-08 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 01:17, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > > . I only have to compensate for Z and > X differences when they are too much of a trouble for the finishing > grinding process after, and I usually do that by hand from time to time. I > certainly can give cutter compensation a try. Manu

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation

2020-09-07 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm too used to not using tool wear compensation that I forget about that. I only have to compensate for Z and X differences when they are too much of a trouble for the finishing grinding process after, and I usually do that by hand from time to time. I certainly can

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation

2020-09-07 Thread Jon Elson
On 09/07/2020 03:24 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: Is it any advantage in using cutter compensation when programming the g-code using CAM? Because since I've started working with CAM for my turning programs I like to let the software do all the compensation. By the way, I'm talking only about lath

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation

2020-09-07 Thread N
Could change cutter diameter and program still works but this should be the only advantage. Used CAM module, "path workbench" in Freecad, not sure if I made some error but it did not work well for me. Simple path, should have an arc in each corner. It upper right corner it decided some kind of

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation

2020-09-07 Thread Ed
On 9/7/20 2:48 PM, N wrote: On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 20:20, N wrote: First thing I noticed then reading about cutter compensation is some use G41,G42 while Linuxcnc use G42,G43 for different side of cutter. I don't think so. G43 is cutter _length_ compensation. Yes reading again, work to long d

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation

2020-09-07 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Is it any advantage in using cutter compensation when programming the g-code using CAM? Because since I've started working with CAM for my turning programs I like to let the software do all the compensation. By the way, I'm talking only about lathe programs. I don't know if this could be an advanta

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation

2020-09-07 Thread N
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 20:20, N wrote: > > > > First thing I noticed then reading about cutter compensation is some use > > G41,G42 while Linuxcnc use G42,G43 for different side of cutter. > > I don't think so. G43 is cutter _length_ compensation. Yes reading again, work to long days and are p

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation

2020-09-07 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 20:20, N wrote: > > First thing I noticed then reading about cutter compensation is some use > G41,G42 while Linuxcnc use G42,G43 for different side of cutter. I don't think so. G43 is cutter _length_ compensation. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/gcode.html -- atp "A m

[Emc-users] Cutter compensation

2020-09-07 Thread N
First thing I noticed then reading about cutter compensation is some use G41,G42 while Linuxcnc use G42,G43 for different side of cutter. Sometimes I get a little bit confusing moves. Turning off cutter compensation with G40 and move in one direction only and it seems to decompensate in other d

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 August 2018 04:10:25 andy pugh wrote: > On 7 August 2018 at 01:00, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I was thinking in terms of carving the example/lathe pawn. None of > > the shown positions can carve it exactly > Without gouging. > I think you are confusing positions and angles still. > I

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 August 2018 at 01:00, Gene Heskett wrote: > I was thinking in terms of carving the example/lathe pawn. None of the > shown positions can carve it exactly I think you are confusing positions and angles still. I am pretty sure that position 2 with an MVJNR holder (VNMG tip) can do it Front an

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 06 August 2018 05:18:31 andy pugh wrote: > On 6 August 2018 at 03:36, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Tool paths (corrected) are I assume to be the nearest of the 8 > > positions, or are those actually calculated from data in the tool > > table (and fussed about if obviously wrong I hope. > > T

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-06 Thread Ken Strauss
> -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 11:06 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning > > On Sunday 05 August 2018 22:39

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 August 2018 at 03:36, Gene Heskett wrote: > Tool paths (corrected) are I assume to be the nearest of the 8 positions, > or are those actually calculated from data in the tool table (and fussed > about if obviously wrong I hope. Tool radius correction is based entirely on the stated tool ori

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 August 2018 22:39:18 Ken Strauss wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 10:27 PM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cutter

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Ken Strauss
> -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 10:27 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning > > Thats a sweet idea, but all holders would app

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 August 2018 18:03:53 andy pugh wrote: > On 5 August 2018 at 19:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Are these angles to be expressed as the angle from the chip > > centerline, or in an absolute angle assuming 0 degrees is exactly > > away from the operator? > > Neither. > They are the angles

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 August 2018 17:03:42 Ken Strauss wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 2:31 PM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensatio

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 August 2018 13:43:45 Ken Strauss wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 12:57 PM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensatio

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 August 2018 at 19:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > Are these angles to be expressed as the angle from the chip centerline, > or in an absolute angle assuming 0 degrees is exactly away from the > operator? Neither. They are the angles of the tool flanks from a zero-degree line that extends along th

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Ken Strauss
> -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 2:31 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning > > On Sunday 05 August 2018 13:43

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 August 2018 13:43:45 Ken Strauss wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 12:57 PM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensatio

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Ken Strauss
> -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 12:57 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning > > On Sunday 05 August 2018 09:07:29 Ken Strauss

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 05 August 2018 09:33:22 andy pugh wrote: > On 5 August 2018 at 14:07, Ken Strauss wrote: > > I had looked at > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/lathe/lathe-user.html#_lathe_tool_ > >orientation_a_id_lathe_tool_orientation_a but obviously not > > understood the drawing. Is "Position 9

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
broken insert. > > -Original Message- > > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 7:52 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning > > > > On

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 August 2018 at 14:07, Ken Strauss wrote: > I had looked at > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/lathe/lathe-user.html#_lathe_tool_orientation_a_id_lathe_tool_orientation_a > but obviously not understood the drawing. Is "Position 9" the controlled > point? I No, position 9 is a round "button"

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Stuart Stevenson
ot understood the drawing. Is "Position 9" the controlled > point? If I use G10 L1 in mill mode are the I/J/Q parameters ignored in > subsequent commands? > > > -Original Message- > > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, August

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread Ken Strauss
on 9" the controlled point? If I use G10 L1 in mill mode are the I/J/Q parameters ignored in subsequent commands? > -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2018 7:52 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subj

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 August 2018 at 04:31, Ken Strauss wrote: > I want to use mill turning using hand written code and I am confused about > cutter compensation. Is this using the mill spindle as the spindle, or using a subsidiary spindle? > Is the controlled point at the centre of a circle specified by the D >

Re: [Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 August 2018 23:31:44 Ken Strauss wrote: > I want to use mill turning using hand written code and I am confused > about cutter compensation. > > If I select the ZX plane (G17) and use G41.1/G42.1, is the L parameter > acted upon? Is the controlled point at the centre of a circle > sp

[Emc-users] Cutter compensation with mill turning

2018-08-04 Thread Ken Strauss
I want to use mill turning using hand written code and I am confused about cutter compensation. If I select the ZX plane (G17) and use G41.1/G42.1, is the L parameter acted upon? Is the controlled point at the centre of a circle specified by the D parameter? Thanks in advance for any help. ---