On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Don Stanley wrote:
>> It all depends on what you are used to in that regard. M$ is no
>> slouch when it comes to changing the look, feel, and workability of
>> the desktop. Look at the progression from Win98, to ME, to XP, to
>> 2000, to Vista, to Win 7 and now
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Mark Wendt wrote:
> > Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Mark Wendt a écrit :
> >>>
> >>> yann
> >> Well, that's kinda where M$ ran into a lot of security problems,
> >> trying to support legacy applications. I'd much rather take the
> >> Unix/Linux approach, and have to recom
> Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Mark Wendt a écrit :
>>>
>>> yann
>> Well, that's kinda where M$ ran into a lot of security problems,
>> trying to support legacy applications. I'd much rather take the
>> Unix/Linux approach, and have to recompile and rebuild, than spend
>> weeks hardening a system just to
Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Mark Wendt a écrit :
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM, yann jautard wrote:
>> In the linux world, when a switch like that happens (for a user
>> interface or for a system library), the new version is always still
>> something I personally consider as a beta version, without
Kent;
...
> I processed an AISC steel
> structure model that Bob Lipman in my group had developed for an
> international data exchange standardization effort--
I know Bob Lipman, back when I was doing lots with the Web3D Consortium. Very
nice, quiet man, and I always found his company a plea
On 9/18/2012 4:03 PM, John Prentice (FS) wrote:
> Greetings
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Chiu [mailto:joec...@joechiu.com]
>
>
>
> Not sure about the tablet side of the equation -- but if you want to give
> exploded diagrams, you might consider 3D PDFs which can be opened b
Greetings
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Chiu [mailto:joec...@joechiu.com]
Not sure about the tablet side of the equation -- but if you want to give
exploded diagrams, you might consider 3D PDFs which can be opened by Adobe
Reader.
But beware 3D PDFs have been dropped in A
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM, yann jautard wrote:
>
> In the linux world, when a switch like that happens (for a user
> interface or for a system library), the new version is always still
> something I personally consider as a beta version, without most of the
> "must have" features. So you ju
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Igor Chudov wrote:
> I think that the "Linux world" is in big trouble.
>
> Despite the multitudes of "distros" and "projects", there is not a viable,
> relatively bug free and usable desktop available among the currently
> supported projects (in the post-Gnome 2 w
Not sure about the tablet side of the equation -- but if you want to give
exploded diagrams, you might consider 3D PDFs which can be opened by Adobe
Reader.
My version of Alibre Design Professional, for example, supports exploded
diagrams. I think the licensing may have changed around, so I'm no
I have started using XFCE since ubuntu 12.04 came out, and it find it
quite usable. Easiest way to get it is Xubuntu. Linux Mint has and is
actively developing Cinnamon and MATE that are very nice options. I
suspect that Gnome3 will die, and Unity may wind up adding back features
that make i
Le 17/09/2012 17:15, Les Newell a écrit :
> I am afraid I gave on on Gnome a long time ago. KDE works quite well if
> you turn off some of the more silly animation stuff such as wobbly windows.
>
> Les
KDE 4 is now working quite well, but after how long since the 4.0 realese ?
And in my opinion
I am afraid I gave on on Gnome a long time ago. KDE works quite well if
you turn off some of the more silly animation stuff such as wobbly windows.
Les
On 17/09/2012 15:21, Eric Keller wrote:
> I have been using both Fedora and Ubuntu, and the desktop decisions that
> they have forced on us are
I have been using both Fedora and Ubuntu, and the desktop decisions that
they have forced on us are really annoying. Of course, Windows has done
the same thing. You are definitely removed from the file system more than
I like. On Ubuntu 12.04, I am using the 2d desktop, which does improve the
ex
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On 9/17/2012 6:12 AM, Kent A. Reed wrote:
> In other parts of the Linux biosphere this hasn't been such a bad
> thing but in the matter of graphical desktop environments, the
> underlying complexities and the inter-dependencies with
> applications are
On 9/17/2012 6:32 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
> There are perfectly good
> reasons for a lot of what we do, but because it does not fit is someone's view
> of how THEY think things should work we have to bend to that view! KDE4 and
> Gnome3 are a case in point. Technically absolutely no reason that a '
Mark Wendt wrote:
> Marvelous rant! Feels good to get that kinda stuff outta your system,
> doesn't it?;-)
And I've had something of a good weekend as well, as I now have a framework for
my web hosting for the next few years ... a clean machine install and
everything
I need in their current ver
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
> Mark Wendt wrote:
>> Yah, I figgered that. I was just teasing a bit.;-)
>>
>> Fun stuff, ain't it?
>
> :)
>
>
> What really pigs me off here is that XP is supposed to be getting 'security
> fixes' only, but is NOW giving the same problem. Th
Mark Wendt wrote:
> Yah, I figgered that. I was just teasing a bit.;-)
>
> Fun stuff, ain't it?
:)
What really pigs me off here is that XP is supposed to be getting 'security
fixes' only, but is NOW giving the same problem. There are perfectly good
reasons for a lot of what we do, but because
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
> Mark Wendt wrote:
>>> Getting the monitors working when they are not directly plugged in is still
>>> >something of a problem though.
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Lester Caine - G8HFL
>> Lester,
>>
>> Generally, I've found monitors tend to work much bet
Mark Wendt wrote:
>> Getting the monitors working when they are not directly plugged in is still
>> >something of a problem though.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Lester Caine - G8HFL
> Lester,
>
> Generally, I've found monitors tend to work much better when they're
> plugged in...
The problem here is 'directl
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:19 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
> Mark Wendt wrote:
>> Yeah, the desktop took some getting used to, but I kinda like it now.
> Gnome classic works well ;)
> And I can even get the task bar back on the bottom of the monitor where
> personally I need it.
> Getting the monitors w
Mark Wendt wrote:
> Yeah, the desktop took some getting used to, but I kinda like it now.
Gnome classic works well ;)
And I can even get the task bar back on the bottom of the monitor where
personally I need it.
Getting the monitors working when they are not directly plugged in is still
something
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Igor Chudov wrote:
> I am worried about both. I cannot upgrade any of my 10.04 boxes due to the
> mess with 12.04. In addition, I am afraid that Linux will soon lose enough
> developers to become a wasteland.
>
> i
Interesting. I've been using 12.04 since it was
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> Igor Chudov wrote:
> > I find Unity to be majorly lacking and unsuitable for real "work". I feel
> > lucky that I have a fvwm2 configuration that works great for me.
> >
> > I am very disturbed by the existing course of events.
> >
> > If Linux
Igor Chudov wrote:
> I find Unity to be majorly lacking and unsuitable for real "work". I feel
> lucky that I have a fvwm2 configuration that works great for me.
>
> I am very disturbed by the existing course of events.
>
> If Linux desktop dies, everything else (such as servers) will follow in a
>
2012/9/16 andy pugh :
> On 16 September 2012 05:07, John Stewart wrote:
>
>> Disagree. Have an Android app. that displays VRML/X3D and STL files.
>
> CAD on a 4" touchscreen doesn't sound like much fun to me, though.
> But then I guess we got used to mice, and I rather suspect that tables
> worked
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Igor Chudov wrote:
> If I ever find myself with a lot of money, I may sponsor a project to
> create a complete Linux desktop. Of course, this is unlikely to
> materialize. But this is my dream.
>
> i
Want to retire as a millionaire in the Linux world? Start with
I am less worried
my analytics show a much larger linux, 7.61%, user base than yours.
I think site type and audience makes a difference, mine is targeting
people who repair their own equipment and are therefore more
technical.
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/reports/Analytics_OS_201202
On 16 September 2012 05:07, John Stewart wrote:
> Disagree. Have an Android app. that displays VRML/X3D and STL files.
CAD on a 4" touchscreen doesn't sound like much fun to me, though.
But then I guess we got used to mice, and I rather suspect that tables
worked better.
--
atp
If you can't fi
Eric;
> I think your point about the desktop is well taken, and somewhat
> problematic for people that like to do things with computers. I think that
> mobile devices are very good for checking email, but that's as close to
> work as you can get.
Disagree. Have an Android app. that displays VRML
> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:02:22 -0400
> From: eekel...@psu.edu
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] For anybody considering upgrading their motherboard
> in the next few months.
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote
On 09/15/2012 01:26 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> If there will be a well-designed and/or inexpensive hardware with this
> chipset, it'll likely get reverse-engineered.
Years ago I worked on an in-circuit test for a device called a bus
monitor chip. It was supposed to be able to monitor memor
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:02 PM, Eric Keller wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Peter C. Wallace
> wrote:
>
> > Hmm Ive been using Ubuntu 12.04 at home for about 6 months now and I find
> > it
> > very nice. I have not had a single crash, and pretty much everything
> works
> > as
> > ex
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote:
> Hmm Ive been using Ubuntu 12.04 at home for about 6 months now and I find
> it
> very nice. I have not had a single crash, and pretty much everything works
> as
> expected. (Unity takes some getting used to and unity friendly apps for th
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Igor Chudov wrote:
> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 20:20:22 -0500
> From: Igor Chudov
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] For anybody considering upgradi
Igor Chudov wrote:
> I think that the "Linux world" is in big trouble.
>
> Despite the multitudes of "distros" and "projects", there is not a viable,
> relatively bug free and usable desktop available among the currently
> supported projects (in the post-Gnome 2 world).
>
> Gnome 3, Unity, and pret
I want to mention something that is analogous to the old "naked king" adage.
I think that the "Linux world" is in big trouble.
Despite the multitudes of "distros" and "projects", there is not a viable,
relatively bug free and usable desktop available among the currently
supported projects (in the
On 9/15/2012 11:13 AM, Eric Keller wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Przemek Klosowski <
> przemek.klosow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/intel-declares-clover-trail-atom-processor-a-no-linux-zone/
>>
>> The likely alternative
>> is it'll be a
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Przemek Klosowski <
przemek.klosow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/intel-declares-clover-trail-atom-processor-a-no-linux-zone/
>
> The likely alternative
> is it'll be a proprietary curiosity that it'll peter out in
I read a similar news article, and I think that it is a big
misunderstanding.
i
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Mark Cason wrote:
>
>Just found this:
>
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/intel-declares-clover-trail-atom-processor-a-no-linux-zone/
>
>A sad day for
Mark Cason wrote:
> Just found this:
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/intel-declares-clover-trail-atom-processor-a-no-linux-zone/
>
> A sad day for Linux...
And a good one for VIA ...
http://www.viaembedded.com/en/products/processors/1830/1/VIA_QuadCore_E-Series.html
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Mark Cason wrote:
> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 00:15:04 -0500
> From: Mark Cason
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> Subject: [Emc-users] For anybody considering upgrading their motherboard in
> the next few months.
>
>
> Just fo
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/intel-declares-clover-trail-atom-processor-a-no-linux-zone/
If there will be a well-designed and/or inexpensive hardware with this
chipset, it'll likely get reverse-engineered. The likely alternative
is it'll be a proprietary curiosity that i
Just found this:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/09/intel-declares-clover-trail-atom-processor-a-no-linux-zone/
A sad day for Linux...
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