Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-23 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On May 21, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Jon Elson wrote: Jeshua Lacock wrote: Putting these numbers in immediately made the drive stable - even in closed loop which is now what I am tuning. I was able to get the P up to 150. I can add some D, but it seems that it only makes the drive more jittery

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-23 Thread Jon Elson
Jeshua Lacock wrote: It felt like I wanted to get P set as high as I could. Is that correct? Or as long as P is high enough to command the machine to move is that adequate? You want the P as high as you can get it while still having stable response. Low P will lead to sloppy positioning,

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-21 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On May 20, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Jeshua Lacock wrote: Actually, I really have only been using open-loop mode. Since we had confusion here, open loop means LinuxCNC does not see movement when you move the motors. Hi Jon, That is correct. But as soon as I try closed loop

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 May 2012 09:26, Jeshua Lacock jes...@3dtopo.com wrote: Can you tell me what exactly is the goal? Do I want the P as high was possible while keeping it stable? The goal is the best achievable stable servo response. The PID terms need to be whatever achieves this, but the target is very

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-21 Thread Jon Elson
Jeshua Lacock wrote: Putting these numbers in immediately made the drive stable - even in closed loop which is now what I am tuning. I was able to get the P up to 150. I can add some D, but it seems that it only makes the drive more jittery without decreasing the error. Well, then lower

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-20 Thread Jon Elson
Jeshua Lacock wrote: Well lets just say the only thing that I am sure about is the drive is under-damped. ;) Tuning is proving to be insanely difficult for me, I guess mostly because I don't really have much of a clue what I am doing. It is also kind of scary because if I turn a POT on

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-20 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On May 20, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Jeshua Lacock wrote: Well lets just say the only thing that I am sure about is the drive is under-damped. ;) Tuning is proving to be insanely difficult for me, I guess mostly because I don't really have much of a clue what I am doing.

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-20 Thread Jon Elson
Jeshua Lacock wrote: Actually, I really have only been using open-loop mode. Since we had confusion here, open loop means LinuxCNC does not see movement when you move the motors. I am a little confused however because changing the PID settings still seems to affect the drive. Yes, even

[Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-19 Thread Jeshua Lacock
Greetings, I seem to have the damping turned all the way up on my Gecko 320, but it is still underdamped. Is it possible to increase damping with the PID settings (I am using the Pico Systems USC board)? Would gearing down my drive further help with damping if I it is not possible to

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-19 Thread Jon Elson
Jeshua Lacock wrote: Greetings, I seem to have the damping turned all the way up on my Gecko 320, but it is still underdamped. Is it possible to increase damping with the PID settings (I am using the Pico Systems USC board)? Would gearing down my drive further help with damping if I it

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-19 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On May 19, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Jon Elson wrote: I seem to have the damping turned all the way up on my Gecko 320, but it is still underdamped. Is it possible to increase damping with the PID settings (I am using the Pico Systems USC board)? Would gearing down my drive further help with

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-19 Thread Steve Stallings
snip Hi Jon, Well lets just say the only thing that I am sure about is the drive is under-damped. ;) Tuning is proving to be insanely difficult for me, I guess mostly because I don't really have much of a clue what I am doing. It is also kind of scary because if I turn a POT on

Re: [Emc-users] Increase Damping

2012-05-19 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On May 19, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Steve Stallings wrote: Is this a G320 or a G320X? If it is a G320X there are internal DIP switches that can be used to reduce the torque gain which might help with stability. Do your encoders have selectable resolution? A lower resolution might also help tame